how the fck did I get to be absolutely cooked (my side profile ruins everything)

[TritonMTN]

I have the worst side profile possible. I have a more or less normal low MTN front, but my side profile ruining my whole life. I'm also 180 cm tall, and it doesn't stop me from talking to girls as long as they don't see me from the side. (I specially removed the curls to show you).
what the fuck do I have to do to fix this shit, why is it so terrible?
Orthodontists also fucked me over braces with elastics and wisdom teeth extraction at 14-15.
I have enough money, if it were possible to have an operation in my country now at my age, I would do it. Even the fucking alt-girl with 4 breast sizes who date me a month ago went to a tajik who just had a lot better profile than me, but less appeal and 0 cash, the real BP moment
I'm 16.5 yo now. Of course, no one will make a hardmax for me at the moment, but at least tell me what to prepare for?
Which really fucking helps me? And don't write trolling shit like debloating, because I saw myself with 9% body fat and it looked terrible anyway, i decided to eat more animal products + gym and gain weight, rather than engage in nonsense like a debloat.
At the moment, I'm wearing permanent 6-tooth retainers on the bottom and top.

I'm going to a new orthodontist on January 24, can I offer him something? I'm already tired of dealing with these devices and operations. Is there really anyone who understands this?

 

[TritonMTN]

doesn’t look like shit, it’s fairly minor

plus orthodontics will help alot

bro...this is the third post about orthodontics made it worse.

 

[Nameless King]

bro...this is the third post about orthodontics made it worse.

it’s highly unlikely orthodontics made it worse unless it was a medically necessary procedure with aesthetic complications

don’t believe everything you read online

 

[TritonMTN]

it’s highly unlikely orthodontics made it worse unless it was a medically necessary procedure with aesthetic complications

don’t believe everything you read online

you probably don't understand that correcting the distal bite through braces with elastic bands is the wrong way. They only change the position of the teeth and negatively affect the upper jaw. They do not eliminate the main problem of mandibular retardation.

 

[Fillowskyy]

let's go back to my original rage. Are there any people who have had similar experiences?

Me. My dad had mogger jawline when he was young, and here I am, my side profile looks like total shit. I also had my wisdom teeth removed at a young age.

 

[Nameless King]

you probably don't understand that correcting the distal bite through braces with elastic bands is the wrong way. They only change the position of the teeth and negatively affect the upper jaw. They do not eliminate the main problem of mandibular retardation.

you don’t think the orthodontists who studied teeth and the face for a decade plus would know if there was such a major flaw in their treatment?

 

[TritonMTN]

Me. My dad had mogger jawline when he was young, and here I am, my side profile looks like total shit. I also had my wisdom teeth removed at a young age.

I've heard about your case, you actually had your wisdom teeth removed before the age of 12, and I'm sincerely sorry if I'm not mistaken.
I'm looking for a solution that's not surgical yet, because I'm only 16 years old.
It's amazing that my topics get so many views, but only few people write good answers. So far, I decided to do mandatory CT scan and prepare for surgery at the age of 18-19 , but I also learned from lurking truecel that there are some orthodontic devices, although expensive, I don't care, he didn't say which ones.

 

[TritonMTN]

you don’t think the orthodontists who studied teeth and the face for a decade plus would know if there was such a major flaw in their treatment?

then why do these "who studied" orthodontists often remove healthy teeth like fours or premolars?

 

[Fillowskyy]

I've heard about your case, you actually had your wisdom teeth removed before the age of 12, and I'm sincerely sorry if I'm not mistaken.
I'm looking for a solution that's not surgical yet, because I'm only 16 years old.
It's amazing that my topics get so many views, but only few people write good answers. So far, I have taken out of the mandatory CT scan and prepare for surgery at the age of 18-19 , but I also learned from lurking truecel that there are some orthodontic devices, although expensive, I don't care, he didn't say which ones.

If you find any solution, please dm me.
I wish my jaw and basically side profile looked better. I might hop on test in the future tho, so maybe that will help.

 

[Nameless King]

then why do these "who studied" orthodontists often remove healthy teeth like fours or premolars?

usually they aren’t actually healthy, e.g it’s necessitated by crowding

 

[TritonMTN]

usually they aren’t actually healthy, e.g it’s necessitated by crowding

now is not the time for crowding to be eliminated by removing healthy teeth. we have palatine sutures that are elastic at 12-14 and expand even without an incision. I do not know about the expansion without an incision at 16, but even at that age I saw that the expansion was calm.

 

[TritonMTN]

I've heard about your case, you actually had your wisdom teeth removed before the age of 12, and I'm sincerely sorry if I'm not mistaken.
I'm looking for a solution that's not surgical yet, because I'm only 16 years old.
It's amazing that my topics get so many views, but only few people write good answers. So far, I decided to do mandatory CT scan and prepare for surgery at the age of 18-19 , but I also learned from lurking truecel that there are some orthodontic devices, although expensive, I don't care, he didn't say which ones.

if there is anyone who understands this, we really look forward to your answers

 

[Nameless King]

now is not the time for crowding to be eliminated by removing healthy teeth. we have palatine sutures that are elastic at 12-14 and expand even without an incision. I do not know about the expansion without an incision at 16, but even at that age I saw that the expansion was calm.

again, the issue is more vexed than that and fit to only be solved by someone who knows what they’re doing, i.e an orthodontist

it’s not always so simple as ‘crowding will solve itself through expansion so extractions aren’t necessary’

it doesn’t seem like you’re willing to have your mind changed on this, but I do hope you put more trust in orthos in the future

 

[lurking truecel]

the problem is not the money, but the fact that I really don't know what will help me or who to turn to

Yes, you need a good Ortho and surgeon I guess

 

[TritonMTN]

again, the issue is more vexed than that and fit to only be solved by someone who knows what they’re doing, i.e an orthodontist

it’s not always so simple as ‘crowding will solve itself through expansion so extractions aren’t necessary’

it doesn’t seem like you’re willing to have your mind changed on this, but I do hope you put more trust in orthos in the future

Every second person on this forum suffers from poor orthodontic treatment. If I were an opponent of orthodontics, I would not be looking for a new solution through orthodontics

 

[TritonMTN]

Yes, you need a good Ortho and surgeon I guess

True. I also need to know at least a little bit about the devices that can help me at the moment, does anyone know about this here? I will offer these options to the orthodontist and I will definitely do a CT scan.

 

[Nameless King]

Every second person on this forum suffers from poor orthodontic treatment. If I were an opponent of orthodontics, I would not be looking for a new solution through orthodontics

*Every second person on this forum suffers from poor facial and lifestyle habits and attributes it to an orthodontist that stopped their issues from worsening

 

[lurking truecel]

True. I also need to know at least a little bit about the devices that can help me at the moment, does anyone know about this here? I will offer these options to the orthodontist and I will definitely do a CT scan.

I meanwcplan what you want to do with a device, elongate the jaw ? Make the bone mass greater ? Like their is no magic devices out there.

 

[lurking truecel]

*Every second person on this forum suffers from poor facial and lifestyle habits and attributes it to an orthodontist that stopped their issues from worsening

Yes I mean most of orthos are doing a good job considering it's bad circumstances. Like small jaws cannot magically become bigger so extractions are the best way.

 

[TritonMTN]

I meanwcplan what you want to do with a device, elongate the jaw ? Make the bone mass greater ? Like their is no magic devices out there.

The same face mask helps at that age, right? but I have a slightly different case

 

[TritonMTN]

Yes I mean most of orthos are doing a good job considering it's bad circumstances. Like small jaws cannot magically become bigger so extractions are the best way.

in another topic, you said that orthodontists are devils and such tooth extraction is a bad idea.

 

[TritonMTN]

*Every second person on this forum suffers from poor facial and lifestyle habits and attributes it to an orthodontist that stopped their issues from worsening

Yes, it's true. but this topic is about choosing orthodontic treatment and solving the problems of previous orthodontic treatment while still in adolescence.

 

[TritonMTN]

last bump before i sleep

 

[DravidianFootjob]

I have the worst side profile possible. I have a more or less normal low MTN front, but my side profile ruining my whole life. I'm also 180 cm tall, and it doesn't stop me from talking to girls as long as they don't see me from the side. (I specially removed the curls to show you).
what the fuck do I have to do to fix this shit, why is it so terrible?
Orthodontists also fucked me over braces with elastics and wisdom teeth extraction at 14-15.
I have enough money, if it were possible to have an operation in my country now at my age, I would do it. Even the fucking alt-girl with 4 breast sizes who date me a month ago went to a tajik who just had a lot better profile than me, but less appeal and 0 cash, the real BP moment
I'm 16.5 yo now. Of course, no one will make a hardmax for me at the moment, but at least tell me what to prepare for?
Which really fucking helps me? And don't write trolling shit like debloating, because I saw myself with 9% body fat and it looked terrible anyway, i decided to eat more animal products + gym and gain weight, rather than engage in nonsense like a debloat.
At the moment, I'm wearing permanent 6-tooth retainers on the bottom and top.

I'm going to a new orthodontist on January 24, can I offer him something? I'm already tired of dealing with these devices and operations. Is there really anyone who understands this?

mogs me

 

[TritonMTN]

mogs me

I started saving $1300 a month for bimax anyway. but I hope I can improve the situation a little bit at the orthodontist's appointment tomorrow.
what's happenned with you?

 

[TritonMTN]

I did a CT scan. And I discussed with the orthodontist the possibility of an expander. She said she'd talk to the surgeon on Thursday. @lurking truecel