How to actually understand what women like in terms of attractiveness, IRL attractiveness

[Lawton88]

this nigga lmao. am getting lectured on the blackpill by a dude who discovered it yesterday.
the blackpill isnt "i will never get a gf" the blackpill is genetical determinism as in, short of massive surgical intervention the ammount and quality of girls you will get and the effort or lack thereof you need to put in is genetically predetermined. but the fact is not everybody is born chad implying that incels have reproduced which is why you exist now. dont get it twisted the rules of dating have never changed that much, its always been like this, girls have always been thirsting for the top guy and ignoring the rest, only difference is that now ressources dont get you love from the younger girls anymore.

Yep now females in the west can support themselves unlike years ago giving many of them the power to fully ignore MTN looks level male.

 

[Foreverbrad]

Lol and what if you're 28, already missed your prime, and 3/10 looks.

Answer: blow your life savings on surgeries then rope if it fails

 

[Ultravisionary Bism]

6’1 HTN, DNRD

 

[Ultravisionary Bism]

but yeah please keep rotting on here and lower the competition pool.
if we were the exact same SMV as in same height same face same autism, and you spend all your day here while i was out getting rejected all day, only one of us would get to pass on our genes, and it aint you.
alot of the "blackpill" is old pseudo science made to psyop you into inactivity and get you scared of rejection as if it was an inherent condition of your existence and as if it was because of the inevitability of life. ill reitirate, chad get rejected too, and by average girl, but at the end of the chad also collects 8,9s and 10s (even if 10s dont exist)
am in uni right now and there are guys who would get rather as truecels with fuckable GFs. sure maybe its cause they knew each other before she became the grogeous 20 yo she is. but if you go to the club you will be shocked by who gets bitches and who dont

Easy for you to say that when i need to fix my brain first due to devastating damage porn has done to me. Next time ask the people condition first you faggot bluepilled nigger.
I do the workout everyday for 1 or 2 hour combined with swimming you fool.
Beat that self improvement that i did you faggot.
I will go to orthodontics too bitch faggot
I bet yo lazy ass will drink all those booze

 

[SubSigma]

Too late for me. I am near chad lite in looks, but non nt. I am destined to rot on this site. Whenever I approach they are either taken, lesbian, or playing games.

 

[BackFromTheMogging]

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Lol and what if you're 28, already missed your prime, and 3/10 looks.

Answer: blow your life savings on surgeries then rope if it fails

well i mean if you really are gonna rope might as well blow all your saving on a hail mary last attempt surgery that might ascend you. money aint gonna get you in heaven and if you are an incel you have no one to leave that money to anyway

 

[BackFromTheMogging]

Easy for you to say that when i need to fix my brain first due to devastating damage porn has done to me. Next time ask the people condition first you faggot bluepilled nigger.
I do the workout everyday for 1 or 2 hour combined with swimming you fool.
Beat that self improvement that i did you faggot.
I will go to orthodontics too bitch faggot
I bet yo lazy ass will drink all those booze

yeah thats cool i have been working out too the only difference being that i go out and force myself to socialize

 

[BackFromTheMogging]

Too late for me. I am near chad lite in looks, but non nt. I am destined to rot on this site. Whenever I approach they are either taken, lesbian, or playing games.

yeah well thats just the way it is. even if you were chad and nt youd still be getting rejected, thats just the game, sure youd get rejected alot less. but you get what you can get in this life

 

[NECK&VOICE]

It's really super simple.

- Long legs (over 6'3'')

- Thick Neck (pic rel)

There. I saved you 10 years of research. Those two alone will pretty much guarantee success in dating market.

Don't have any?

- LL or death.

- Wrestler's bridge or death.

Should be your only focus really.

Everything else is just pure noise.

 

[BackFromTheMogging]

It's really super simple.

- Long legs (over 6'3'')

- Thick Neck (pic rel)

There. I saved you 10 years of research. Those two alone will pretty much guarantee success in dating market.

Don't have any?

- LL or death.

- Wrestler's bridge or death.

Should be your only focus really.

Everything else is just pure noise.

thick neck is good for boxing but not to an excess, modern aesthetic standards while they are robust also involve elegance. i dont agree with the nexk width being equal or bigger than the bigonial, i think the ideal is about 80% at best also long necks have been a sign of beauty forever

 

[Ultravisionary Bism]

yeah thats cool i have been working out too the only difference being that i go out and force myself to socialize

I cannot 100 percent NT if all those borderline NSFW ads popped up every damn day.
I will download ads blocker

 

[NECK&VOICE]

thick neck is good for boxing but not to an excess, modern aesthetic standards while they are robust also involve elegance. i dont agree with the nexk width being equal or bigger than the bigonial, i think the ideal is about 80% at best also long necks have been a sign of beauty forever

You are confusing male and female gaze again.

For raw sex appeal you need two things and two things only:

- Thick (not fat) neck

- Good height (6'4''+)

There isn't much more you need really. I'm talking raw sex (i want to breed babies) appeal, not modelling or acting.

 

[Deleted member 22093]

This post reminded me that I slept with one if the hottest girls I've been with before I discovered this all and was fairly bluepilled still.
The past two years I've been a hermit focusing purely on self improvement. I'm way better looking but haven't even put it to use because I'm always trying to attain something greater. It's neverending.

 

[EverythingMattersCel]

thats were you are wrong, some women will reject chad and accept an average looking dudes. women arent like us, they live in a reality where there is an abundance of options. you dont have to be chad to fuck a girl, you only have to pass her look treshold AND meet her at the appropriate moment where she is sexually available, that girl who rejected chad is sexually active, maybe not that night cause all she wanted to do was dance, but she has been fucked before, and if it wasnt by chad that means logically speaking it was someone less attractive than him because chad is the top 5%. you have to be the good enough guy at the right moment, especiall y for hooking up.

This is true. Women act and think spontaneously in the moment. Especially when they are drunk. Also remember that the variation in "types" women find attractive is broader than men... it's just they have a much higher looks threshold to meet. So considering the average girl has an abudance of options... she has no problems rejecting a prettyboy chad in favour of a maesthetic or masc high tier normie or maybe chadlite. The standard is still high either way. Very few girls would reject a 99 percentile prettyboy in favour of a 50 percentile normie because of types. The difference is more marginal. More like 80 vs 60 percentile.

 

[BackFromTheMogging]

You are confusing male and female gaze again.

For raw sex appeal you need two things and two things only:

- Thick (not fat) neck

- Good height (6'4''+)

There isn't much more you need really. I'm talking raw sex (i want to breed babies) appeal, not modelling or acting.

i think you are the one confusing the both,
male gaze is the impression that you need competition fighting abilities and intimidation potential. female gaze is good genes that will give her pretty looking offspring that will be able to reproduce easily.
the things you have described may work for an old hag but not from a fresh prime girl. the proof of that is that when mike tysons hoe cheated she didnt cheat with a strongman but rather with pretty boy bradpitt. she legit took the risk of getting her shit kicked in just for some brad pitt dick
if you want to know what appeals girls who are 18-24 look at their following on insta and who they simp over and look at their previous boyfriends. the criterias you have described are erronous

 

[BackFromTheMogging]

This post reminded me that I slept with one if the hottest girls I've been with before I discovered this all and was fairly bluepilled still.
The past two years I've been a hermit focusing purely on self improvement. I'm way better looking but haven't even put it to use because I'm always trying to attain something greater. It's neverending.

same thing tbh altho i didnt sleep with her. i kinda regret joining this forsaken place lmao but then again i did looksmax a bit so there is that

 

[BackFromTheMogging]

This is true. Women act and think spontaneously in the moment. Especially when they are drunk. Also remember that the variation in "types" women find attractive is broader than men... it's just they have a much higher looks threshold to meet. So considering the average girl has an abudance of options... she has no problems rejecting a prettyboy chad in favour of a maesthetic or masc high tier normie or maybe chadlite. The standard is still high either way. Very few girls would reject a 99 percentile prettyboy in favour of a 50 percentile normie because of types. The difference is more marginal. More like 80 vs 60 percentile.

oh hell yes, i forgot to talk about types.
women most certainly do have types while we men do not. i legit seen a friend of mine who is an insta influencer get loads of bitches on camera to suck is dick because of this whole type thing. hes got a buzzcute, is 5'6 and suboptimal ratios (long and narrow faces) but he fucking pulls, hes into the whole emo aesthetics and shit.
like i said, tinder isnt real life. girls go on tinder date only if they find the perfect guy, girls in the club who are sexually available will go back with the first guy that passes their looks treshold and comes talk or actually dance with them
i went to the club last time and vibed with a super cute redhead i met in the queue who offered me a drink and we we got in her friends kept trying to make us dance and shit but i was waaay to awkward and afraid to get rejected. anyways, she kept trying for 3 times and then gave up and some legit recessed black 5'6 black dude got her instead after she got hella drunk and they even made out, she looked disgusted but still lmao. now i am in her that guy is a pussy zone and we arent even in the same city anymore.

 

[eduardkoopman]

I have been here since a bit before 2019 and it has robbed me of my teenage years, instead of leanmaxing (which i am currently doing and is working great (as in girls will come dance with me or randomly kiss me on the cheeks in the club) altho i still have a longway to go) and going out to have a social life i stayed home feeling pitiful for myself and rotted for literally 3 of the best years of my life which is probably something that i will forever regret because i know for a fact now that i would have slayed depite not looking like a drago sean opry morph. but instead i just stayed home and wasted my life.

this is entirely your fault, what you did in 2019 or whatever year.

THIS FORUM. Has been telling dude since day 1.
LEAN = LIFE.
Below 12% is where it starts

Don't go blame this forum, for being a fatty in 2019, 2020, etc...

Reminder - if you've never been lean, you don't know wtf you look like and you can't claim to be deformed or recessed or any other BS (my pics inside)

A few things before we begin: 1) I'm not asking for ratings here, not the point of the thread. 2) I don't care if you mog me or I mog you. Again, not the point, broseph. 3) The point is to show, with pictures, that if you're a fatcel, skinnyfatcel, or simply have never been to low bodyfat...

looksmax.org

 

[WhatsMonogamy]

in my country nobody hooks up in clubs, they just dance and seperate. Guys standing at the bar and edges of the room and girls dancing in the middle, some highly NT guys dancing in their friend groups but never any guy dances with the solo women. Only guys who "get play" already are in a relationship with the girls they came with lol. IDK for sure tho, i have limited experience going out 3 times in the last 3 years.

 

[BackFromTheMogging]

this is entirely your fault, what you did in 2019 or whatever year.

THIS FORUM. Has been telling dude since day 1.
LEAN = LIFE.
Below 12% is where it starts

Don't go blame this forum, for being a fatty in 2019, 2020, etc...

Reminder - if you've never been lean, you don't know wtf you look like and you can't claim to be deformed or recessed or any other BS (my pics inside)

A few things before we begin: 1) I'm not asking for ratings here, not the point of the thread. 2) I don't care if you mog me or I mog you. Again, not the point, broseph. 3) The point is to show, with pictures, that if you're a fatcel, skinnyfatcel, or simply have never been to low bodyfat...

looksmax.org

tbh i wholly agree, it was really retarded of me to not leanmax under the pretense that it doesnt matter anyways cause i dont look like chico
but you are right, i was a bitch ass nigga and i have to pay the price for it now,
to the younger guys, do not make this mistake, leanmax and dont wste time

 

[eduardkoopman]

tbh i wholly agree, it was really retarded of me to not leanmax under the pretense that it doesnt matter anyways cause i dont look like chico
but you are right, i was a bitch ass nigga and i have to pay the price for it now,
to the younger guys, do not make this mistake, leanmax and dont wste time

Mirin your reply.

I'm just under 15% bodyfat atm.

 

[BackFromTheMogging]

Mirin your reply.

I'm just under 15% bodyfat atm.

based bro tbh, i dropped about 10% bodyfat this summer through starving and long walks, i still got a long way to go but i am fuelled by the pure hate i have for old me for wasting so much potential. i trully had no excuses and am legit disgusted in my self and the weakness in my mind
we will make it tho bro dont worry we gon ascend

 

[eduardkoopman]

based bro tbh, i dropped about 10% bodyfat this summer through starving and long walks, i still got a long way to go but i am fuelled by the pure hate i have for old me for wasting so much potential. i trully had no excuses and am legit disgusted in my self and the weakness in my mind
we will make it tho bro dont worry we gon ascend

 

[NonChadSlayer]

There is alot of retardation on this website, from calling alien gay morphs of models hot, to saying that tiktok pretty boys get no punani to claiming that the average man has absolutely 0 chances, and this all stems from the posters lack of real life experience. Ill do a bettter post later on why way more people are actual volcels thanyou might think.
But for now here is how you should construct your idea of how dating works in your particular location.
Go to a club on friday night with you bros ( or alone if you dont have bros), and observe who gets bubble from bitches, who is kissing bitches and who leaves the place with bitches. you might be surprised. and you will be even more surprised of who doesnt get no play. this website vastly underestimates the importance of being NT and willing to go get it.
over the last 10 times that i have been clubbing here are some "stats"
-me exluded, only like 2 of all the dudes i saw get play were above 6 feet (and we were obviously wearing shoes)
-i counted 4 guys who were legit recessed in their chin
-i have seen actual chads rejected
etc.
Go out and just observe real life is not as bad as what this forum makes it to be. it still sucks but thats how it is supposed to be, you would still get rejected even if you were chad, story time;
I went out last friday night with my friend and we ended up meeting up with his childhood friend who ended up being a pretty boy with legit huge following on tiktok (like people were recognizing him on the street and he knew the promoters of places and got us in a exlusive club for free). like actual pretty boy (altho he turned out to be a really great guy not effeminate in any ways) who had bitches thirsting over him in his comment and knew basically every single hot 19 yo in the waiting line for the club (did i mention we skipped the line because of this guy lmao ?). well anyways when we get in, he was trying to get over something so he tried to hit on a girl and i kid you not he got rejected by the bitch (altho no harshly not to mention she was fucking hot). Point is, even if you were born as your favorite archotype of slayer (masc pretty boy, chad or whatever) you would still face rejection, some bitches dont like dick some bitches got bf etc. Looksmax as much as you can but in the meanwhile go outside and have an actual social life because you only get to be your age once and especially if you are in your early twenties like me you can only live this period once.
I have been here since a bit before 2019 and it has robbed me of my teenage years, instead of leanmaxing (which i am currently doing and is working great (as in girls will come dance with me or randomly kiss me on the cheeks in the club) altho i still have a longway to go) and going out to have a social life i stayed home feeling pitiful for myself and rotted for literally 3 of the best years of my life which is probably something that i will forever regret because i know for a fact now that i would have slayed depite not looking like a drago sean opry morph. but instead i just stayed home and wasted my life.
get lean, looksmax, join a frat (that shit will literally get you laid), become more NT go out socially, make a good friend group, if you are in uni go to integration weeks and shit, get friends who slay. do not rot on this website, for alot of you guys its really not overrrrrr. do not waste your time on this place. I have wasted age 19-21 on this god forsaken website while guys who are objectively less lucky than me have memories that look straight out of movies. DO NOT ROT ON THIS PLACE, and ill say it one more time, i am turning 22 soon, your 20s are the best time of your life do not let them slip away. even if you think you wont be succesful with girls at least go out clubbing a few times, party, travel with friends and make memories you can look back at with a smile, there might even be a few unexpected cuties waiting for you, i have just started getting a social life back (i used to be the popular guy in highschool before i started rotting on this hellhole) and while am still only 22 and have 3 years of uni ahead of me still, there is still the bitter regret of not starting earlier and missing out on so much. and like i said before the opinion of some autistics formed by using ratios based on soft tissues landmarks do not descirbe accurately real life, go out and look at who slays and in what contexts. also dont fall for the trap that you should be hustling during your 20s, you shouldnt, you should be partying and having fun and enjoying your youth, start hustling 3 years later it wont make a big differnece in the long run but if you dont enjoy your 20s you will never have the same opportunities again

i will do more posts with detailed guides about NT, actual looksmaxing, how to get friends groups, how i leanmaxed at a very fast pace, etc.

height : 6'1
rating from nero angelo (i know he sucks and it was photos of when i was 25% bf): 5.75
age : 22 soon

inb4 tldr: - go out and observe who slays and who slaysn't
- get as much of a social life as you can
-do not waste you 20s

Good thread, absolutely true. My early twenties were wild before I knew about any of this shit. All heights, ethnicities and looks ratings can slay if they go out enough and learn how to socialize and have fun.

For a girl, the allure of hooking up with a guy is rooted in fun, attention, and trying to figure out if he finds her hot or not. It's not a ruthless calculation of who has the best genetics.

 

[Max Frauder]

Actual TLDR = Just be a normie theory.

I'm enraged at myself for bothering to read all that waffle.

 

[Deleted member 22267]

What looksmaxers think women wants vs

What women actually want







muh lean

 

[BackFromTheMogging]

y

Actual TLDR = Just be a normie theory.

I'm enraged at myself for bothering to read all that waffle.

ou dont understand and thats ok
its over for IQcels
the concept

 

[ang3l]

facts

 

[justgetacutbro]

View attachment 1899289 What looksmaxers think women wants vs View attachment 1899290 What women actually want







muh lean

Both still above 5 PSL and good pheno

 

[dizer147]

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