How to fix Seborrheic dermatitis forever

[StraightHeadJames]

Any advice for gut being a primary issue for eczema (common triggers, etc)? I had appendicitis when I was 13-14, ruptured too, and was on some heavy duty antibiotics for like a month. I suspect this is the cause, have rashes around eyes, forehead, and scalp.

eat a healthy diet and just take some probiotics and vitamins u can find good ones on simpleskincarescience.com

 

[truecel12]

real nigga thread

 

[Eren]

bro my skin is so clear now even the redness around the nose that I've seen in people who don't even have serborrheic dermatitis lol.
Try mct oil it will 99% work in a few days you should be clear of it even if it's bad.

how to apply on skin ?

 

[imightbewrong42]

After trying so many shampoos like Ketoconazole, Nizoral, Oliprox and many others, this is the first time I have been with no dandruff at all or redness on my scalp and face.
I developed this skin condition just as i hit puberty, it was only on my scalp at some point and after some antibiotic use it seems gut health was affected and it made it spread to my face around the nose, cheeks and ears.
This thing literally DESTROYS your looks, you can have Francisco Lachowski bones and this skin condition along with the fungal acne that it brings will make you LTN.
View attachment 2764625
(girl from Reddit, mine looked even worse)
I have finally found the ultimate solution after searching on Reddit of all places.
People were talking about an "MCT oil" which fixes it like a miracle cure. (i heard about it before but it sounded like some scam or bullshit oil and just using the bullshit medications from dermatologists, a nigga even prescribed me a steroid cream which made it way worse after i stopped it and i think it made it spread further, he told me i can take it forever and there's no side effects WTF??)


And it does, just after 4 days of use I have completely removed the redness on my scalp, there's almost 0 flakes at all. The redness in my face also reduced by 90%. You can't tell I have any irritation or anything.
Instant ascension. In a few more days there might be 0 redness at all, even around the nose.

My skin, hair and scalp haven't felt this smooth and flake free since I was a little kid.
View attachment 2764638
MAKE SURE TO BUY ONLY MCT OIL WHICH SAYS "C8 and C10". (DON'T BUY IT IF IT SAYS C12, BECAUSE THIS WILL FEED THE YEAST AND MAKE IT FLARE UP.) These are the acids that actually kills the yeast and moisturizes the skin. Don't apply it directly to acne as it can make it worse, apply to scalp directly and to problem areas on face or body.

Spoiler: Explanation why it works

Seborrheic dermatitis is first and foremost a disease caused by skin barrier dysfunction and the dysbiosis (disruption of microbiome) of the skin leading to imbalance in microbiota. This imbalance can have many causes in my personal case it was antibiotic. The loss of P. Acnes bacteria an anerobic bacteria that resides deep in the dermis in the sebaceous gland feeding off the sebum metabolites from their lipase enzyme activity. This alters the sebum before it ever reaches the outside of the skin.

This bacteria thrives an low ph and is partly responsible for maintaining the acidification of the skin. It also occupies a similar niche as Malassezia that is thought to be the cause of Seb derm competing for a common resource (Sebum). P. Acnes has a 5 hour doubling rate 5 time longer than the average bacterium. It is estimated that microbiota take on average 1 to 2 months to recover from antibiotics if this is extrapolated for the doubling rate of P. Acnes this bacteria would take 5 to 10 months to restore its original levels. This long doubling rate is negatively compounded by the fact many of the treatments for Malassezia yeast also inhibit the lipases action of P. Acnes prolonging the imbalance. The only antifungals that do not exert this effect are nystatin, terbinafine, and fluconazole. This is evidenced in the high success rates of these treatments.

Many of the topical treatments themselves are high ph and need to be countered with low ph acidic topical such as C8 and C10 MCT oils, aloe vera, squalene oil. The primary take away is high ph is the primary driver of the development of the diseased skin. In Caucasians the primary malassezia on the face and across the chest is Malassezia Restricta, this yeast has the unique ability to express MrLip5 gene.

The lipases from this gene have the ability to cleave sphingolipids such as cermides which are also know as the glue of the skin. This results in cells breaking apart and appearing as flaking of the skin. This lipase gene expression is dependant on ph it is expressed as the malassezia digest sebum they leave a high ph acid known as oleic acid it raise skin ph and allows them to thrive. The back of the neck, lower back, groin are dominated by Malassezia globosa.

This yeast produces the strongest reaction from the immune system of all the malassezia it antigens release a high amount of cytokines. This results in itching and redness of the skin without very much flaking. The majority of the negative processes are expressed due to the increasing ph as malassezia has more sebum to "digest" with the diminished presence of P. Acnes. The ph of the skin can be restored with MCT C8 caprylic acid this lipid cannot be digested by malassezia. It is a low ph fatty acid so it will help return the skin to it optimal acidified state. This will increase the rate of return of P. Acnes with also down regulating the lipase gene expression, growth, antigen sensitivity of malassezia.

Caprylic acid can also moisturize the skin and bind with the filaggrin in the skin repairing the skin barrier allowing less malassezia to pass through where it can cause immune reaction and retain moisture furthering the acidic stability of the skin. Lack of filaggrin protein and the acids it degrades into to create NMF (natural moisturizing factor) due to genetic defects are a primary cause of skin barrier dysfunction.

Tagging users who mentioned some problems with serb derm, minor or more severe: @Beastimmung @PseudoMaxxer @thickdickdaddy27 @Debetro @IAMNOTANINCEL @Bewusst @NorwoodAscender




Also, I've been eating like shit and even drank alcohol these last few days, and it still worked like a miracle.



Other things you can do: -supplement zinc, helps a lot.
-check hormone levels and vitamin deficiencies.



Don't be discouraged or depressed if you have this skin condition, it can be treated and some people even claim that they cured it and it never came back.
I will update about my skin, people on reddit claim that they used it for 1 year + and it didn't gain resistance, if this is really true then MCT oil is truly the best long term treatment for serb derm that exists. Many say that they only need to use it one time per week after a while and have perfect skin.

you said not to apply on hair but how do u apply it if i have seb derm all over my scalp? like do i spread my hair and do i have to cover all of my scalp

 

[StraightHeadJames]

you said not to apply on hair but how do u apply it if i have seb derm all over my scalp? like do i spread my hair and do i have to cover all of my scalp

cover where u have patches of dandruff or where u think it will be. what i meant by that is basically not smearing it in ur hair. pull your hair back and just massage it into the scalp, its ok if it gets on hair too i meant to not target hair specifically

 

[StraightHeadJames]

how to apply on skin ?

best would be to put it in some sort of glass dropper thingy. and then apply it to the nose for example and massage it slightly with ur finger.

its really good to do this when the skin is wet cuz the skin will absorb it quicker and wont stay on the skin

 

[Eren]

best would be to put it in some sort of glass dropper thingy. and then apply it to the nose for example and massage it slightly with ur finger.

its really good to do this when the skin is wet cuz the skin will absorb it quicker and wont stay on the skin

HELP ME, I LIVE IN FRANCE, AMAZON IS CUCKING ME SAYING I CANT SHIP HERE
do you live in US??

 

[Eren]

best would be to put it in some sort of glass dropper thingy. and then apply it to the nose for example and massage it slightly with ur finger.

its really good to do this when the skin is wet cuz the skin will absorb it quicker and wont stay on the skin

ok i went on IHERB
could you please check this link and confirm its the same as the one on your picture ? they do not mention C8 and C10

https://fr.iherb.com/pr/betterbody-foods-organic-coconut-mct-oil-16-9-fl-oz-500-ml/140458

 

[RecessedCel5]

how do you know if you have it

 

[faxilla]

didn’t work for me when i first read this thread but i’m gonna hop on it again for my nose n let’s see

 

[StraightHeadJames]

HELP ME, I LIVE IN FRANCE, AMAZON IS CUCKING ME SAYING I CANT SHIP HERE
do you live in US??

nope, germanistan.

how do you know if you have it

kinda hard not to know lol. redness only on scalp or only on face or both. ocassional flakes or maybe a lot. itchiness for scalp and rarely for face.

 

[StraightHeadJames]

ok i went on IHERB
could you please check this link and confirm its the same as the one on your picture ? they do not mention C8 and C10

https://fr.iherb.com/pr/betterbody-foods-organic-coconut-mct-oil-16-9-fl-oz-500-ml/140458

dont buy that shit dude cuz im not sure and if its not sure then it can make it worse.

Amazon.fr

this one seems to be available in france, check that.

it's pure c8 very good. some claim its better than c8 and c10 combined, some claim it's the same. so it should be good.

 

[StraightHeadJames]

didn’t work for me when i first read this thread but i’m gonna hop on it again for my nose n let’s see

for me right now i use squalane oil for face and it works very good for redness on sides of nose. mct oil use for scalp currently only.

from the ordinary squalane oil its against dermatitis. be very very gentle to the skin on ur face if u have redness like this means its very sensitive dont apply anything drying like shampoo or some cleanser, if u do then make sure to remove it quickly ur skin will dry out otherwise and get way worse.

 

[RecessedCel5]

nope, germanistan.


kinda hard not to know lol. redness only on scalp or only on face or both. ocassional flakes or maybe a lot. itchiness for scalp and rarely for face.

would normal coconut oil work ?

 

[StraightHeadJames]

would normal coconut oil work ?

Absolutely not that would make it way worse.

pure c8, or c8 and c10. no c12 or anything else in the oil.

 

[Hexmask]

Ive heard biom8 is another good option. I just ordered that because I got what looks to be perioral dermititis not too sure which type of dermatitis. Ive been washing my face with just water.

 

[StraightHeadJames]

Ive heard biom8 is another good option. I just ordered that because I got what looks to be perioral dermititis not too sure which type of dermatitis. Ive been washing my face with just water.

no way bro fell for that scam from a chadlite what a retard

 

[Hexmask]

no way bro fell for that scam from a chadlite what a retard

Lmao what? What does how he looks have to do with anything the reviews is what I go off of.

 

[StraightHeadJames]

Lmao what? What does how he looks have to do with anything the reviews is what I go off of.

dude the reviews are legit ais you fucking dumb idiot it has no ingredients that work against serb derm

 

[Hexmask]

dude the reviews are legit ais you fucking dumb idiot it has no ingredients that work against serb derm

Why are you so against the product lmao, have you tried it? And how about the comments on his video? And how about the comments on other videos aswell about it? Sureeeee im gonna trust you and you only 1 OPINION vs everything else out there.

 

[StraightHeadJames]

Why are you so against the product lmao, have you tried it? And how about the comments on his video? And how about the comments on other videos aswell about it? Sureeeee im gonna trust you and you only 1 OPINION vs everything else out there.

smh man smh

 

[Hexmask]

smh man smh

Yep! Just like every other user on this forum just throw insults

 

[faxilla]

for me right now i use squalane oil for face and it works very good for redness on sides of nose. mct oil use for scalp currently only.

from the ordinary squalane oil its against dermatitis. be very very gentle to the skin on ur face if u have redness like this means its very sensitive dont apply anything drying like shampoo or some cleanser, if u do then make sure to remove it quickly ur skin will dry out otherwise and get way worse.

Oh right, squalene oil. got it

 

[faxilla]

for me right now i use squalane oil for face and it works very good for redness on sides of nose. mct oil use for scalp currently only.

from the ordinary squalane oil its against dermatitis. be very very gentle to the skin on ur face if u have redness like this means its very sensitive dont apply anything drying like shampoo or some cleanser, if u do then make sure to remove it quickly ur skin will dry out otherwise and get way worse.

this the one?

 

[Eren]

dont buy that shit dude cuz im not sure and if its not sure then it can make it worse.

Amazon.fr

this one seems to be available in france, check that.

it's pure c8 very good. some claim its better than c8 and c10 combined, some claim it's the same. so it should be good.

Ok, thank you very much for the link

I plan to use it on my face mainly as I have redness on nose and around this area, would squalane be better?

 

[Eren]

Absolutely not that would make it way worse.

pure c8, or c8 and c10. no c12 or anything else in the oil.

ok i confirm that the oil I ordered is exactly the same as the one on your post (is it the one that you use?)

I will try to get caprylic acid supplements as well
And buy the C8 oil too just in case

I actually fucked up myself by putting olive oil / coconut in my hair to condition it lmao

 

[StraightHeadJames]

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this the one?

yeah that's the one is slightly less effective than mct oil but its good

ok i confirm that the oil I ordered is exactly the same as the one on your post (is it the one that you use?)

I will try to get caprylic acid supplements as well
And buy the C8 oil too just in case

I actually fucked up myself by putting olive oil / coconut in my hair to condition it lmao

do that bro ur face or scalp or whatever problem will have will be clear soon enough just gotta find the right routine the right product!

not sure about the effectiveness of crapylic acid supplements but caprylic acid is what c8 and c10 are so its good applied on skin. if u saw someone say it's good to take even as a supplement then definetly try it out

 

[K2VITAMIN]

yeah that's the one is slightly less effective than mct oil but its good

do that bro ur face or scalp or whatever problem will have will be clear soon enough just gotta find the right routine the right product!

not sure about the effectiveness of crapylic acid supplements but caprylic acid is what c8 and c10 are so its good applied on skin. if u saw someone say it's good to take even as a supplement then definetly try it out

when using the mct oil for my scalp, even when only applying a little and washing it off, my scalp reeks like shit and rotten eggs. any solutions?

 

[StraightHeadJames]

when using the mct oil for my scalp, even when only applying a little and washing it off, my scalp reeks like shit and rotten eggs. any solutions?

nope it does the same thing for me some people say it deosnt for them so idk...

 

[Eren]

After trying so many shampoos like Ketoconazole, Nizoral, Oliprox and many others, this is the first time I have been with no dandruff at all or redness on my scalp and face.
I developed this skin condition just as i hit puberty, it was only on my scalp at some point and after some antibiotic use it seems gut health was affected and it made it spread to my face around the nose, cheeks and ears.
This thing literally DESTROYS your looks, you can have Francisco Lachowski bones and this skin condition along with the fungal acne that it brings will make you LTN.
View attachment 2764625
(girl from Reddit, mine looked even worse)
I have finally found the ultimate solution after searching on Reddit of all places.
People were talking about an "MCT oil" which fixes it like a miracle cure. (i heard about it before but it sounded like some scam or bullshit oil and just using the bullshit medications from dermatologists, a nigga even prescribed me a steroid cream which made it way worse after i stopped it and i think it made it spread further, he told me i can take it forever and there's no side effects WTF??)


And it does, just after 4 days of use I have completely removed the redness on my scalp, there's almost 0 flakes at all. The redness in my face also reduced by 90%. You can't tell I have any irritation or anything.
Instant ascension. In a few more days there might be 0 redness at all, even around the nose.

My skin, hair and scalp haven't felt this smooth and flake free since I was a little kid.
View attachment 2764638
MAKE SURE TO BUY ONLY MCT OIL WHICH SAYS "C8 and C10". (DON'T BUY IT IF IT SAYS C12, BECAUSE THIS WILL FEED THE YEAST AND MAKE IT FLARE UP.) These are the acids that actually kills the yeast and moisturizes the skin. Don't apply it directly to acne as it can make it worse, apply to scalp directly and to problem areas on face or body.

Spoiler: Explanation why it works

Seborrheic dermatitis is first and foremost a disease caused by skin barrier dysfunction and the dysbiosis (disruption of microbiome) of the skin leading to imbalance in microbiota. This imbalance can have many causes in my personal case it was antibiotic. The loss of P. Acnes bacteria an anerobic bacteria that resides deep in the dermis in the sebaceous gland feeding off the sebum metabolites from their lipase enzyme activity. This alters the sebum before it ever reaches the outside of the skin.

This bacteria thrives an low ph and is partly responsible for maintaining the acidification of the skin. It also occupies a similar niche as Malassezia that is thought to be the cause of Seb derm competing for a common resource (Sebum). P. Acnes has a 5 hour doubling rate 5 time longer than the average bacterium. It is estimated that microbiota take on average 1 to 2 months to recover from antibiotics if this is extrapolated for the doubling rate of P. Acnes this bacteria would take 5 to 10 months to restore its original levels. This long doubling rate is negatively compounded by the fact many of the treatments for Malassezia yeast also inhibit the lipases action of P. Acnes prolonging the imbalance. The only antifungals that do not exert this effect are nystatin, terbinafine, and fluconazole. This is evidenced in the high success rates of these treatments.

Many of the topical treatments themselves are high ph and need to be countered with low ph acidic topical such as C8 and C10 MCT oils, aloe vera, squalene oil. The primary take away is high ph is the primary driver of the development of the diseased skin. In Caucasians the primary malassezia on the face and across the chest is Malassezia Restricta, this yeast has the unique ability to express MrLip5 gene.

The lipases from this gene have the ability to cleave sphingolipids such as cermides which are also know as the glue of the skin. This results in cells breaking apart and appearing as flaking of the skin. This lipase gene expression is dependant on ph it is expressed as the malassezia digest sebum they leave a high ph acid known as oleic acid it raise skin ph and allows them to thrive. The back of the neck, lower back, groin are dominated by Malassezia globosa.

This yeast produces the strongest reaction from the immune system of all the malassezia it antigens release a high amount of cytokines. This results in itching and redness of the skin without very much flaking. The majority of the negative processes are expressed due to the increasing ph as malassezia has more sebum to "digest" with the diminished presence of P. Acnes. The ph of the skin can be restored with MCT C8 caprylic acid this lipid cannot be digested by malassezia. It is a low ph fatty acid so it will help return the skin to it optimal acidified state. This will increase the rate of return of P. Acnes with also down regulating the lipase gene expression, growth, antigen sensitivity of malassezia.

Caprylic acid can also moisturize the skin and bind with the filaggrin in the skin repairing the skin barrier allowing less malassezia to pass through where it can cause immune reaction and retain moisture furthering the acidic stability of the skin. Lack of filaggrin protein and the acids it degrades into to create NMF (natural moisturizing factor) due to genetic defects are a primary cause of skin barrier dysfunction.

Tagging users who mentioned some problems with serb derm, minor or more severe: @Beastimmung @PseudoMaxxer @thickdickdaddy27 @Debetro @IAMNOTANINCEL @Bewusst @NorwoodAscender




Also, I've been eating like shit and even drank alcohol these last few days, and it still worked like a miracle.



Other things you can do: -supplement zinc, helps a lot.
-check hormone levels and vitamin deficiencies.



Don't be discouraged or depressed if you have this skin condition, it can be treated and some people even claim that they cured it and it never came back.
I will update about my skin, people on reddit claim that they used it for 1 year + and it didn't gain resistance, if this is really true then MCT oil is truly the best long term treatment for serb derm that exists. Many say that they only need to use it one time per week after a while and have perfect skin.

Update : so I have received this oil :

I apply on my face after cleansing and will let it sit overnight (just scared it will clog my pores)
I hope this will work

 

[StraightHeadJames]

Update : so I have received this oil :
View attachment 3247477
I apply on my face after cleansing and will let it sit overnight (just scared it will clog my pores)
I hope this will work

did it work

 

[Eren]

did it work

no, did you use this specific oil?