How to get out of skinny fat without ruining development? 15

[olo]

I'm 15 5'8 and around 120-125lbs, yes very skinny yet I think I've got a bit high bf% (20-25%) which is most likely the reason I'm going to assume I'm skinny fat. I've got barely any visible muscle and my stomach sticks out bits and I hate it. I've also got some facial fat which I'd love to lose aswell.

How can I get out of skinny fat and get ripped/good physique while also losing facial fat and not ruining hormonal or other puberty development.

Please give me good suggestions involving work out type of stuff, cardio stuff, diet intake stuff (ex: daily cals or wtv), supplements I could take, and more.

NOTE: Not open to blasting roids for a good while unless I hate the way my face looks and my physique isn't developing enough.

 

[Tyler1]

You are simply Low T

 

[olo]

You are simply Low T

I'm assuming you mean im low testosterone? What can I do about that tho? Even if I blast roids or go to the gym to increase my test, I don't know if I should be trying to bulk or cut. I heard cutting can mess up my hormonal development but I don't want to bulk and get even higher bf%. I'm not sure what to do man.

 

[MagicalWaves]

You are simply Low T

how can he raise T without roids then like he wants

 

[jardypoop]

Just bulk bro you will thank me in the long run. Cutting wont help youll stay a low test bitch boy. I was the same like you and gained 3 inches and got way bigger and along with other shit my face also improved.

 

[Tyler1]

I'm assuming you mean im low testosterone? What can I do about that tho? Even if I blast roids or go to the gym to increase my test, I don't know if I should be trying to bulk or cut. I heard cutting can mess up my hormonal development but I don't want to bulk and get even higher bf%. I'm not sure what to do man.

Are you stupid why do you even think about roids? just eat raw meat and reduce stress.

 

[jardypoop]

Are you stupid why do you even think about roids? just eat raw meat and reduce stress.

shut the fuck up nobody is eating raw meat fucking caveman it wont make a difference just eat hella meat

 

[Tyler1]

shut the fuck up nobody is eating raw meat fucking caveman it wont make a difference just eat hella meat

 

[olo]

Just bulk bro you will thank me in the long run. Cutting wont help youll stay a low test bitch boy. I was the same like you and gained 3 inches and got way bigger and along with other shit my face also improved.

lean bulk yeah? i was thinking eat in like 200-300 caloric deficit so i could gain lean mass and lower bf%. gonna struggle with getting in the right healthy food though, i don't know how to cook and my parents dont like the idea of spending a bunch of money on things like fish, steak, and all that stuff.

 

[olo]

how can he raise T without roids then like he wants

i'd be open to roids at some point in the future but i don't want to fuck anything up during puberty, unless thats the best time to use roids . I just don't like the idea of injecting a syringe into my body right now

 

[jardypoop]

lean bulk yeah? i was thinking eat in like 200-300 caloric deficit so i could gain lean mass and lower bf%. gonna struggle with getting in the right healthy food though, i don't know how to cook and my parents dont like the idea of spending a bunch of money on things like fish, steak, and all that stuff.

no bro NO! eat a fucking surplus. probably work your way to like over 3000 calories. you dont need to lower your bodyfat if ur 120lb at 5'8. i was the same height and weighed more than you and i was nowhere near 25% bodyfat ur on some bullshit bro. for diet just eat meat if you can and if you cant just eat eggs its easy to cook.

 

[True truecel]

no bro NO! eat a fucking surplus. probably work your way to like over 3000 calories. you dont need to lower your bodyfat if ur 120lb at 5'8. i was the same height and weighed more than you and i was nowhere near 25% bodyfat ur on some bullshit bro. for diet just eat meat if you can and if you cant just eat eggs its easy to cook.

ru indian

 

[Tyler1]

i'd be open to roids at some point in the future but i don't want to fuck anything up during puberty, unless thats the best time to use roids . I just don't like the idea of injecting a syringe into my body right now

Low IQ

 

[jardypoop]

ru indian

no bro my profile pic isnt me its my friend

 

[Tyler1]

no bro NO! eat a fucking surplus. probably work your way to like over 3000 calories. you dont need to lower your bodyfat if ur 120lb at 5'8. i was the same height and weighed more than you and i was nowhere near 25% bodyfat ur on some bullshit bro. for diet just eat meat if you can and if you cant just eat eggs its easy to cook.

Just eat overcooked meat and boiled eggs for nothing

 

[olo]

no bro NO! eat a fucking surplus. probably work your way to like over 3000 calories. you dont need to lower your bodyfat if ur 120lb at 5'8. i was the same height and weighed more than you and i was nowhere near 25% bodyfat ur on some bullshit bro. for diet just eat meat if you can and if you cant just eat eggs its easy to cook.

well I know im 20% atleast since my doctor did a test on it a few months ago, why would i want to get fatter which would also increase my facial fat?

 

[jardypoop]

well I know im 20% atleast since my doctor did a test on it a few months ago, why would i want to get fatter which would also increase my facial fat?

bro theres actually no way ur 20%

 

[olo]

bro theres actually no way ur 20%

i promise you im 20%. ive literally got BARELY any visible muscle and my stomach sticks out like ig a lean gut. it's bad man im srs.

 

[jardypoop]

Just eat overcooked meat and boiled eggs for nothing

well i know raw meat might be better but it tastes like shit for people used to eating processed foods n such

 

[olo]

well i know raw meat might be better but it tastes like shit for people used to eating processed foods n such

Yea im not eating raw meat wtf. honestly it's over for me physique-wise and im lowk chopped too. atp ima just buy a course or smth.

 

[jardypoop]

i promise you im 20%. ive literally got BARELY any visible muscle and my stomach sticks out like ig a lean gut. it's bad man im srs.

i was exactly the same way bro, but cutting wont make you any more aesthetic. bulk is the only way youll actually put on size. in a year i bulked to 200 and cutted to 185lb and my face is better because my bone mass increased and my body is more aesthetic even with more bodyfat

 

[jardypoop]

Yea im not eating raw meat wtf. honestly it's over for me physique-wise and im lowk chopped too. atp ima just buy a course or smth.

dont waste your money on bullshit you just need good advice for your situation

 

[Tyler1]

Yea im not eating raw meat wtf. honestly it's over for me physique-wise and im lowk chopped too.

if you don’t want any advice then just stay chopped

My advice is: raw meat , raw milk, raw eggs, raw liver, calorie surplus, natural sugar

 

[jardypoop]

if you don’t want any advice then just stay chopped

My advice is: raw meat , raw milk, raw eggs, raw liver, calorie surplus, natural sugar

dude hes 15 you think his mom is letting him eat raw meats?

 

[olo]

i was exactly the same way bro, but cutting wont make you any more aesthetic. bulk is the only way youll actually put on size. in a year i bulked to 200 and cutted to 185lb and my face is better because my bone mass increased and my body is more aesthetic even with more bodyfat

ight man. lean bulk yeah? and what age/weight should i do it until? i turn 16 in a few months so.

 

[Tyler1]

dude hes 15 you think his mom is letting him eat raw meats?

Yes everyone knows the dish tartare or he can just eat raw fish

 

[Tyler1]

ight man. lean bulk yeah? and what age/weight should i do it until? i turn 16 in a few months so.

Nigga you’re so stupid

If you go on a primal diet you would ascend stop gymcoping

 

[VladiJFL]

Just lift and move bro and eat a matenience or a slight deficit and with your age and body composition you'll see that you will gain muscle while shredding fat. Do not over compliate it, avoid Junk foods as much as posible and move more. Eventually you'll see changes. Do not do a major deficit or if you do it make sure it doesn't last too much because that could pottencially mess up your growth. Just focus in overloading in the gym with compound movements.

 

[olo]

Just lift and move bro and eat a matenience or a slight deficit and with your age and body composition you'll see that you will gain muscle while shredding fat. Do not over compliate it, avoid Junk foods as much as posible and move more. Eventually you'll see changes. Do not do a major deficit or if you do it make sure it doesn't last too much because that could pottencially mess up your growth. Just focus in overloading in the gym with compound movements.

for sure. ill do lkike a 200 cal deficit. this will still let me achieve my genetic potential right? i just dont wanna ruin my growth hormones and any of that

 

[VladiJFL]

It won't mess up anything chill, in fact, being on a lower bf% is boosting your height JFL

 

[olo]

It won't mess up anything chill, in fact, being on a lower bf% is boosting your height JFL

i was told by someone to actually go on a 200cal surplus cause itll help bone mass develop. i mean the dude said thats what he did and hes pretty good looking so idk

 

[VladiJFL]

i was told by someone to actually go on a 200cal surplus cause itll help bone mass develop. i mean the dude said thats what he did and hes pretty good looking so idk

Look, you could stay with your bf % and eat in a little surplus if you are ok whit it. But hormones work better in with a 15-18% bf so i would suggest you to drop your fat and therefore when you get to your desired bf% you do a lean bulk as he said. Actually with your age and body composition just by eating clean and don't overeating you will improve your body compsition. Being on a high bf % converts your testosterone into estradiol which is a type of estrogen. High estrogen makes early fusion of the epiphyseal plates and when those plates are closed you can't grow taller. Make whatever you want though, it's up to you and if you decide to do a slight surplus is ok if you train hard and don't get fatter and ensure that you are improving your body composition.

 

[olo]

Look, you could stay with your bf % and eat in a little surplus if you are ok whit it. But hormones work better in with a 15-18% bf so i would suggest you to drop your fat and therefore when you get to your desired bf% you do a lean bulk as he said. Actually with your age and body composition just by eating clean and don't overeating you will improve your body compsition. Being on a high bf % converts your testosterone into estradiol which is a type of estrogen. High estrogen makes early fusion of the epiphyseal plates and when those plates are closed you can't grow taller. Make whatever you want though, it's up to you and if you decide to do a slight surplus is ok if you train hard and don't get fatter and ensure that you are improving your body composition.

yeah plan was to workout 6x a week so the surplus wouldnt make my bf% go up, also adding cardio which should in theory help. it'd probably help get higher bone mass way faster. but the deficit itself could also be a good option. if what i was told doesn't work out, then ill deficit.

 

[mbi876]

You are simply Low T

No lmfao. Its not that black and white

 

[mbi876]

yeah plan was to workout 6x a week so the surplus wouldnt make my bf% go up, also adding cardio which should in theory help. it'd probably help get higher bone mass way faster. but the deficit itself could also be a good option. if what i was told doesn't work out, then ill deficit.

Lifting 6 days a week is just stupid. Ever heard of CNS fatigue? You would literally be better off training Fullbody or upper lower 3-4 times a week while adding cardio after your sessions.

 

[mbi876]

Just lift and move bro and eat a matenience or a slight deficit and with your age and body composition you'll see that you will gain muscle while shredding fat. Do not over compliate it, avoid Junk foods as much as posible and move more. Eventually you'll see changes. Do not do a major deficit or if you do it make sure it doesn't last too much because that could pottencially mess up your growth. Just focus in overloading in the gym with compound movements.

No need to be compound movements. Choosing stable movements that target the muscle youre trying to hit where they have best leverage is what you should be focusing on