How to get permanent higher T?

[audimax]

I am low T pencil neck looking guy, despite doing:
Low Fap (once a week)
Zinc, magnesium, boron, vitamin c, sun, creatine
Lifting
Sleeping enough
Eating high carb, high fat, high protein and in 200-300 caloric surplus
Consuming little dairy

I considered going on TRT forever but the only thing holding me back is that I actually want kids in like 10 years (srs)

Doing cycles would get me muscle, but I would still be low T all the time Im not injecting.

So what to do boys
I hate being T mogged by old men on TRT

Getting to perma ~700 levels would be enough tbh

 

[Warlow]

pencil neck? how long have you trained neck?

 

[audimax]

pencil neck? how long have you trained neck?

A few months now
But I have general fragile looking appearance despite not looking lower than average body wise

 

[Warlow]

A few months now
But I have general fragile looking appearance despite not looking lower than average body wise

this concerns me

 

[audimax]

this concerns me

Its bc of my fathers genetics
Small wrists, small hands, small neck etc

But fortunately Ive been able to put on a little amount of muscle in 2020, but obviously still getting mogged by guys with larger bones

 

[Warlow]

Its bc of my fathers genetics
Small wrists, small hands, small neck etc

But fortunately Ive been able to put on a little amount of muscle in 2020, but obviously still getting mogged by guys with larger bones

keep training neck, it'll take longer than a few months, but i really hope you aren't doomed to pencilneckdom

 

[clavicel]

There's nothing you can do to permanently increase it
Just go on TRT, it doesn't make you infertile

 

[audimax]

There's nothing you can do to permanently increase it
Just go on TRT, it doesn't make you infertile

If I am on TRT for 10 years, I dont think theres any hcg that would make my sperm start working again

 

[clavicel]

If I am on TRT for 10 years, I dont think theres any hcg that would make my sperm start working again

It doesn't matter how long you're on, if you're suppressed for 1 month its the same as being suppressed for 10 years
If you're really scared regardless you can just freeze sperm now

 

[St. BlackOps2Cel]

you can still transmaxx, it's gonna be easier

 

[JosephGarrot123]

A few months now
But I have general fragile looking appearance despite not looking lower than average body wise

brutal I'm fat as fuck but I still look like I have a bodybuilder build due to my wide clavicles big ribcage is your frame that bad?

 

[Deleted member 3635]

I am low T pencil neck looking guy, despite doing:
Low Fap (once a week)
Zinc, magnesium, boron, vitamin c, sun, creatine
Lifting
Sleeping enough
Eating high carb, high fat, high protein and in 200-300 caloric surplus
Consuming little dairy

I considered going on TRT forever but the only thing holding me back is that I actually want kids in like 10 years (srs)

Doing cycles would get me muscle, but I would still be low T all the time Im not injecting.

So what to do boys
I hate being T mogged by old men on TRT

Getting to perma ~700 levels would be enough tbh

is ur sleep good? are you getting enough cholestrol ? try adding redlight/sunlight on the balls saurkraut and report back

 

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How old r u

 

[highT]

how long have you been lifting and when did you start? i got into it at age 14 and was pretty jacked by end of high school

 

[audimax]

is ur sleep good? are you getting enough cholestrol ? try adding redlight/sunlight on the balls saurkraut and report back

Sleep is normal I would say.. yes cholesterol intake is through meat and eggs
Where would i be able to get sun on my naked balls without getting the police called on me lol

 

[DrTony]

Its bc of my fathers genetics
Small wrists, small hands, small neck etc

But fortunately Ive been able to put on a little amount of muscle in 2020, but obviously still getting mogged by guys with larger bones

My father has 985 ng/dl Total Test at 69 years of age (3 independent blood tests). lol. No exercise, no supplements, no TRT, nothing.

 

[aussielooksmaxxer2]

I am low T pencil neck looking guy, despite doing:
Low Fap (once a week)
Zinc, magnesium, boron, vitamin c, sun, creatine
Lifting
Sleeping enough
Eating high carb, high fat, high protein and in 200-300 caloric surplus
Consuming little dairy

I considered going on TRT forever but the only thing holding me back is that I actually want kids in like 10 years (srs)

Doing cycles would get me muscle, but I would still be low T all the time Im not injecting.

So what to do boys
I hate being T mogged by old men on TRT

Getting to perma ~700 levels would be enough tbh

Don’t know much ab roids, I’m natty but cycles does increase t and will help you put on a lot more muscle but I’m pretty sure it’ll have some real undesirable effects (long term) on the endocrine system and speed up hair loss and short term could increase acne in already high T makes

 

[audimax]

Im 24
Lifting on and off for a few years but really doing this seriously now since this year

brutal I'm fat as fuck but I still look like I have a bodybuilder build due to my wide clavicles big ribcage is your frame that bad?

Unfortunately I have wide hips. Besides that, just small bones and small neck.

 

[JosephGarrot123]

Im 24
Lifting on and off for a few years but really doing this seriously now since this year

Unfortunately I have wide hips. Besides that, just small bones and small neck.

wide hips are brutal

 

[audimax]

Don’t know much ab roids, I’m natty but cycles does increase t and will help you put on a lot more muscle but I’m pretty sure it’ll have some real undesirable effects (long term) on the endocrine system and speed up hair loss and short term could increase acne in already high T makes

Yeah of course they would increase T, but only while i am doing the cycle. When Im not cycling, my T would still be low

 

[audimax]

wide hips are brutal

Pic of me a few months ago when I was lower bodyfat and had less muscle

But I think my hip/leg muscles are protruding too giving this illusion
Because my hip bone isnt too far away from my waist
But nontheless

 

[JosephGarrot123]

Pic of me a few months ago when I was lower bodyfat and had less muscle

But I think my hip/leg muscles are protruding too giving this illusion
Because my hip bone isnt too far away from my waist
But nontheless

looks good need more work on your upper body

 

[LooksPSL]

You can still have kids on TRT as long as you take HCG. Even without it you should be fine

talk to a doctor about testing your T levels and see if you need it

 

[audimax]

looks good need more work on your upper body

That was at the beginning of summer, I look better now.

https://looksmax.org/threads/rate-my-bodyfat.191499/

But you cant change bone structure

 

[audimax]

You can still have kids on TRT as long as you take HCG. Even without it you should be fine

talk to a doctor about testing your T levels and see if you need it

An endocrinologist? We dont have hrt clinics or something like that here

 

[OldcelMillennial]

HCG will keep your balls going like others have said. There's def shut down, but dudes on legit cycles have had kids before. I'd freeze some jizz just in case. Also as someone that's been on TRT for awhile. Most guys you think are on TRT are doing way more than a TRT dose. 700ng not going to bulk you like you think. Its def easier to stay looking decent, but 1000+ or around 200mg is what you'll want at least.

 

[nvck_pilled]

you can't testosterone production is a daily thing
if you fuck you're sleep or micro nutrients once you lose progress

 

[audimax]

HCG will keep your balls going like others have said. There's def shut down, but dudes on legit cycles have had kids before. I'd freeze some jizz just in case. Also as someone that's been on TRT for awhile. Most guys you think are on TRT are doing way more than a TRT dose. 700ng not going to bulk you like you think. Its def easier to stay looking decent, but 1000+ or around 200mg is what you'll want at least.

So I have to take HCG all the time while being on TRT, or can I just start taking HCG in like 9 years to start sperm production again?

 

[Deleted member 7651]

Get sun exposure on your ballsl, it increases T for a whole week before going back to baseline

 

[audimax]

Get sun exposure on your ballsl, it increases T for a whole week before going back to baseline

So it never goes back to baseline if I do it every few days?

 

[Deleted member 7651]

So it never goes back to baseline if I do it every few days?

Yep . Sun exposure +exercise do the trick

 

[audimax]

Derek says everyone he knew that blasted and cruised for years and decades were able to get fertile again with a fertility program. So thats good news for me

 

[Lev Peshkov]

Derek says everyone he knew that blasted and cruised for years and decades were able to get fertile again with a fertility program. So thats good news for me

By fertility program does he mean
Hcg + nolva?

 

[Lev Peshkov]

Cruise like
@Yuyevon or @xefo69

 

[Deleted member 5818]

By fertility program does he mean
Hcg + nolva?

he recommends hcg + hmg + clomid

but i was thinking about prenatal T, if you have a kid with very low test levels, maybe 200ng/dl from this protocol after blasting for maybe 10 years. Wont your kid turn out a subhuman?


Or is prenatal T independant to a man's testosterone levels?

 

[Lev Peshkov]

he recommends hcg + hmg + clomid

but i was thinking about prenatal T, if you have a kid with very low test levels, maybe 200ng/dl from this protocol after blasting for maybe 10 years. Wont your kid turn out a subhuman?


Or is prenatal T independant to a man's testosterone levels?

Hmm damn son idk about that. Call in high iq cels lol

 

[Deleted member 5818]

Hmm damn son idk about that. Call in high iq cels lol

@looxmakser49 @Dyorotic2 @Dr Shekelberg all the high iqcels ik xD

but, i did a bit of research and I think prenatal T is influenced by the amount of T inside a woman's amniotic fluid, not how high T the man is. At least i think lol

 

[Lev Peshkov]

@looxmakser49 @Dyorotic2 @Dr Shekelberg all the high iqcels ik xD

but, i did a bit of research and I think prenatal T is influenced by the amount of T inside a woman's amniotic fluid, not how high T the man is. At least i think lol

We better pray lol.

Wenlive the life of chad sfter roiding while pir sons are stuck in .co

 

[Deleted member 5818]

We better pray lol.

Wenlive the life of chad sfter roiding while pir sons are stuck in .co

indeed

I see no reason not to blast and cruise for the rest of my life now tbh, my only concern has just been covered

I guess also hairloss, but i shouldnt be prone (i pray xd)

 

[Lev Peshkov]

indeed

I see no reason not to blast and cruise for the rest of my life now tbh, my only concern has just been covered

I guess also hairloss, but i shouldnt be prone (i pray xd)

Lol

Can i ask

Doesnt fertility = t levels

Like u can be fertile if low t

Literally if thats the problem the whole debate of steroids is "am i worroed about the side effectd that can be reduced"

 

[Deleted member 5818]

Lol

Can i ask

Doesnt fertility = t levels

Like u can be fertile if low t

Literally if thats the problem the whole debate of steroids is "am i worroed about the side effectd that can be reduced"

" Low testosterone does not always directly cause infertility. Men with low testosterone can still produce healthy sperm because sperm production is mainly stimulated by other hormones. However, low levels of testosterone may result in decreased production of sperm. "

but yeh, if u can have kids before blasting, you should be able to have kids after

 

[Lev Peshkov]

" Low testosterone does not always directly cause infertility. Men with low testosterone can still produce healthy sperm because sperm production is mainly stimulated by other hormones. However, low levels of testosterone may result in decreased production of sperm. "

but yeh, if u can have kids before blasting, you should be able to have kids after

True and most likely t will come back sfter pct anyways

This is giga lifefuel

 

[Deleted member 5818]

True and most likely t will come back sfter pct anyways

This is giga lifefuel

yeh man

u gonna cruise as well?

no reason not to unless ur prone to balding tbh

 

[Lev Peshkov]

yeh man

u gonna cruise as well?

no reason not to unless ur prone to balding tbh

I would but im military soon

Probsbly gonna blast tren and halo

Pct

Pray fertility and t levels come back

Enlist

After tho i will cruise especially if im 30+ as t drops anyways

 

[Deleted member 5818]

I would but im military soon

Probsbly gonna blast tren and halo

Pct

Pray fertility and t levels come back

Enlist

After tho i will cruise especially if im 30+ as t drops anyways

i also have a fear

in a year I will hopefully be getting bimax + genio from andreischev

won't be able to inject for a month or two



Mirin you enlisting, serving your nation like a real man

 

[Lev Peshkov]

i also have a fear

in a year I will hopefully be getting bimax + genio from andreischev

won't be able to inject for a month or two



Mirin you enlisting, serving your nation like a real man

Thanks brother.

If the militsry allowed it i would cruise all my life jfl

But uniornically im gonna probably (once im out the militsry)
Cruise test or maybe something s little stronger

The whole point of me blasting sndrogens in puberty is to increase facial attractiveness

But having high t will keep me young snd prevent my looks from deteriorating

I also assume it is associated with keeping aeay old people diseases

 

[audimax]

Hmm damn son idk about that. Call in high iq cels lol

I mean, with this pct you could get to a very high T level too
Just dont get a kid when youre only at 200 ng

But besides that, there are men having kids with 150 ng dl natural production and they seem fine (not more subhuman than everyone else)

 

[Lev Peshkov]

I mean, with this pct you could get to a very high T level too
Just dont get a kid when youre only at 200 ng

But besides that, there are men having kids with 150 ng dl natural production and they seem fine (not more subhuman than everyone else)

Nice bro, so i should do maybe proviron beforr having a kid?

 

[audimax]

Nice bro, so i should do maybe proviron beforr having a kid?

IDK, Ill look into fertility stuff when the time comes. I want to ascend and slay first

 

[OldcelMillennial]

So I have to take HCG all the time while being on TRT, or can I just start taking HCG in like 9 years to start sperm production again?

All the time is safer. Restart after 9 years is doable I'm sure but much riskier. My TRT doc says older you get and longer your on its harder to come back.