HOW TO GET RID OF FACIAL WRINKLES AND HOW TO NEVER HAVE THEM {GTFIH}

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TABLE OF CONTENTS

1. WHAT ARE WRINKLES AND FINE LINES ? . WHY A LOOKS KILLER ?

2. AT WHICH PARTS OF THE FACE DO WE GET THEM ?

3. HOW WRINKLES ARE FORMED ?

5. HOW TO FIX THEM PART BY PART ? / TREATMENTS DONE PART BY PART

6. LASER TREATMENT


7. SOFTMAXXES
Jump in if you know how fillers and botox works




WHAT ARE WRINKLES AND FINE LINES ? . WHY A LOOKS KILLER ?

Random ass photo for no reason
Screenshot 2026 05 27 233203



So Fine lines and wrinkles are natural creases and folds in the skin. Fine lines are early stage lines (usually under 1mm deep) caused by facial expressions. As skin loses collagen, elasticity, and hydration over time, these shallow creases deepen and become permanent, developing into wrinkles. Wrinkles are also a part of aging process


Human attraction is deeply wired to biological signals of health and fertility. Youth is one of the strongest proxies for both. Wrinkles are one of the clearest visible signals of aging . so the brain reads them as reduced reproductive fitness . So this will be a reason why a foid wont want an oldcel
Having wrinkles is sign of losing health it shows lack of collagen . losing facial volume .decreasing testosterone and stress






AT WHICH PARTS OF THE FACE DO WE GET THEM ?
Not in depth at this section but im writing this to give over view

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1. FOREHEAD WRINKLES --> Fore head wrinkles are the horizontal line in fore head it is primarily caused by repetitive facial expression the alteration of frontalis muscle determines the fore head line formed or forehead wrinkles although aging and collagen loss also causes it contraction and de contraction of frontalis causes skin to bunch and fold we will come in depth in next

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2. FROWN LINES --> Frown lines are also called as glabellar rhytides these wrinkles comes at the glabella region alteration of glabellar complex forms this wrinkles (glabellar complex = many muscle group)

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Corrugator supercilii --> pulls the eye brow medially and downward or inward and downward ( tail and head )

Procerus--> it also pulls the brow downward and alters it causing frown line and contracts too

Depressor supercilii --> yeah same shit but more direct

Medial orbicular oculi --> same shit :feelspepo:

all these muscle work almost same and together to create frown lines (11 lines )


3. CROWS FEET -->Fine lines and wrinkles that forms out from the outer corners of your eyes its called crow feet cause it looks like crow feet around eyes you know what i mean . its formed by movement of orbicularis oculi the muscle around eye area . Orbicularis oculi contraction causes this. every time you smile , you laugh , you squint , blink this will cause orbicularis to contract and cause wrinkle over time

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4. BUNNY LINES --> SO like this is a horizontal line formed or wrinkle formed around of bridge side of nose since the above image i added didn't had a clear representation of bunny line so this is what it looks like

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So this is like mainly formed by the movement of nasalis muscle and appear during active facial movement unlike other which can be seen on rest so nasalis muscle is like active during like smiling squinting and laughing so nasalis muscle has two component called transverse and alar component this work together to cause bunny lines or muscle movement

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5. LIP LINES--> So this is like a vertical line forming up and below the lips and the above image i added didn't represent this properly so
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this is also called smokers line the main muscle for this orbicularis oris so this activated byy actions like speaking, eating, drinking from a straw, or whistling and smoking too etc

the green part is this muscle


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6. MARIONETTE LINES --> Marionette lines are vertical facial creases that run from the corners of the mouth down to the chin So the main muscle for this is Depressor Anguli Oris the line is mainly caused by the action of mouth pulling down ward and orbicularis oris also plays a role in here with
Platysma -->Tension or loosening in this neck muscle can pull the lower face downward works same but holds the lower third
Mentalis--> This is the chin muscle its upward contraction is also the reason for marionette lines

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7. MENTAL CREASE --> Its a horizontal crease between chin and lower lip caused by mentalis muscle when the muscle contracts upward it causes this and other muscle like orbicularis oris and depressor anguli oris also work together with mentalis to cause this and yeah platysma also work with this and extra muscle is depressor labii inferioris this muscle is important to control lower lip position

ig the diagram is up so i didn't add it this time

8. NASOLABIAL FOLDS --> Ig @kdev had made a good thread regarding this so watch out that for Nasolabial folds





HOW WRINKLES ARE FORMED ?
We know about three layer of skin right dermis epidermis and hypodermis right ? Im not explaining this

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So wrinkles are of two types dynamic and static
Dynamic wrinkles --> Caused by muscle movement so every time your muscle contract or do some work the skin above it folds for example Lines on your forehead, frown lines between your eyebrows, and crow's feet at the corners of your eyes develop because of small muscle contractions from smiling, frowning, squinting, and other habitual facial expression

Static wrinkles--> So these are caused by structural damage to dermis it self via collagen + elastin loss and the dynamic wrinkles become static over time due to muscle movement + collagen + elastin loss

Lets break down loss of collagen in body and why do we get wrinkles

Getting old( water :uwotWater: ig )--> In general as we get older the number of cells in the skin that produce collagen and elastin known as fibroblasts, begins to decrease and the remaining fibroblasts become less productive with age existing structural proteins in the skin are broken down by enzymes at a higher rate than they were in the past. Aging also causes the top layer of the skin's epidermis, called the stratum corneum to become thinner. This structural shift makes it more difficult for the skin to retain moisture, and dry skin makes any wrinkles more visible
Starting around your mid-20's collagen production drops roughly 1% per year. By your 40s and 50s it will drop up to 30 % in total

During skin repairment:unsure:--> During the repair process, some broken elastic fibers and collagen fibers are not regenerated but replaced by altered fibers. When an elastic fiber breaks in an extended state, it may be replaced by a longer collagen fiber. The accumulation of these long collagen fibers makes part of the skin looser and stiffer, and a large fold appears. When a long collagen chain breaks in a compressed state it may be replaced by a short chain collagen fiber. The shorter fibers restrict extension of the longer fibers locking them in a folded state permanently and creating a wrinkle ( can tl;dr ) this

UV damage(imp) --> UV hits the skin ok UVA radiation (320–400 nm) generates reactive oxygen species (ROS) in both the dermis and epidermis. UVB radiation (280–320 nm) does the same and also directly damages DNA . ROS triggers enzyme release. When UV light damages skin tissue, the body produces an enzyme called metalloproteinase (MMP). So those who know MMP breaks down ECM . so what this does is actually degrade collagen allowing the tissue to heal so yk what happens when collagen goes wrinkles
UV exposure actually upregulates this by a lot

Different MMPs go after different collagen types: MMP-1, MMP-8, and MMP-13 degrade fibrillar collagen. MMP-2 and MMP-9 degrade collagen types I and IV and UV rays also block collagen formation too or collagen synthesis
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Reactive oxygen species --> ROS is produced through cellular oxidative metabolism stress and mitochondrial disfunction this is really environmental and caused by environmental factors like stress UV rays smoking poor nutrition mitochondrial imbalance and all watch some health guru regarding this
ROS damages lipid protein DNA and over decades of this natural repairment cant catch up
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THATS ALL IG:feelsthink: IG




HOW TO FIX THEM PART BY PART ? / TREATMENTS DONE PART BY PART OR DIY BOTOX FILLERS

1. FOREHEAD WRINKLES --> 4 ways filler and Botox and fat graft or laser resurfacing laser is common asf ill tell this is in bottom section
Botox --> So like this thing is injected on the frontalis muscle and other muscle area ill i have sum it all in a image so im not explaning it more, ai made with my info this is my new formatting

before jumping


tbh im not a doctor and haven't tried myself (diy) so jfl at you if you think explaning from my side will help any thing with this guide

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BEFORE AND AFTER


HA Fillers --> Filler injected at fore head to give volume and reduce wrinkle botox + filler is a good combo this will also treat deep wrinkle lines

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Know this

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BEFORE AND AFTER

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Fat grafting --> so fat is harvested from abdomen or thigh area and then purified and injected layer by layer don't do this your self you need to get it done on a clinic

BEFORE AND AFTER




this goes hand to hand with laser resurfacing

2. FROWN LINES -->i mean i explained at bit earlier so

Botox

Screenshot 2026 05 31 230352







BEFORE AND AFTER



HA Fillers--> used for deep frown line usually wont be treated with botox this region has huge supply of blood vessel so its a high risk area




this video uses both botox and filler

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If you didn't understand this image cause this is blurry ig but still see the image guess i have to explain myself :feelspepo:

So the Depth should deep right on the bone i mean wdym by right on to the bone it should be done until you get the resistance of bone then why so deep cause the supratrochlear artery runs in this zonei it travels upward through the muscle and then into the skin. So going deeper (below the artery) is actually safer than injecting mid-layer where the vessel lives.


Needle/Cannula should be 27G . If needle, 27–30G, inject slowly with aspiration.


Volume should be 0.05–0.1 ml per point. Total session max 0.2–0.3 ml.


Points: 3–5 points — 1 midline procerus, 2 medial corrugator (bilateral), 2 optional lateral corrugator (higher risk, cannula only).


Technique: Retrograde linear threading. Slow, low pressure. Aspirate (withdrawing fluid using suction) before each depot. search what retrograde means

Botox 2 weeks before filler always relaxes muscle, reduces migration, extends longevity .yeah goes hand to hand


Note: Supratrochlear artery exits medial canthus vertical line ~1.5 cm above orbital rim. Supraorbital exits mid-pupil line. Stay deep and midline to avoid both.

BEFORE AND AFTER




Fat graft --> i mean same shit just get it done if you want to will make a table comparing filler fat graft and botox and yeah i couldn't find before and after for fat graft at frown lines :feelsrope:


you might be bored :DanceShake::AMOGUS:




3.CROWS FEET


thread made by @Avskinov explained about it too ig :feelspepo: ig :feelsthink: idont wanna talk this will be too long tell me if the thread missed some thing ill edit it quick asap wanna get botb n shit:feelsgah:



4.BUNNY LINES

So Claude and some doc told me that fillers are generally not recommended at this area so Botox is only option you need to grunch to identify the line formation zone from which point does it forms and mark those area

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0.32 TO 1.30 TIMESTAMP:ogre:




Explaining this study

Anatomical data show that the region between the medial canthus and nasal dorsum — where bunny lines appear — is not underlain by a discrete muscle, but is instead a non-muscular interval called the bunny triangle, bordered by the procerus, transverse nasalis, LLSAN, and medial orbicularis oculi. The visible wrinkles correspond to skin folding over this muscle-free zone, while adjacent muscles contract peripherally

inject this way


Transverse nasalis (primary driver): Small injections of 1–2 units of BoNT-A along its superior border on the upper nasal sidewall effectively reduce line formation.
LLSAN (secondary contributor): Micro-aliquots of 0.5–1 unit at its superior-medial border can suppress over-elevation of the nasal ala, but must be placed cautiously to avoid alar ptosis or upper-lip elevator weakness.

Medial orbicularis oculi: A conservative injection at the medial canthal border is indicated when strong lateral traction accentuates the crease.

Procerus: If glabellar contraction extends into the nasal root, a low-dose (1 unit) injection at its inferolateral margin may complement treatment.

more precise image

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so scrunch from where the lines start see mark the place and inject while avoiding vessel inject 1 to 2 units per dot as whole and avoid the vessel too

BEFORE AND AFTER



this video has treated bunny with frown lines too


THIS MUCH FOR NOW ILL EXPLAIN IN NEXT PART SOFTMAXXING AND OTHER STUFF THINGS


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TABLE OF CONTENTS

1. WHAT ARE WRINKLES AND FINE LINES ? . WHY A LOOKS KILLER ?

2. AT WHICH PARTS OF THE FACE DO WE GET THEM ?

3. HOW WRINKLES ARE FORMED ?

5. HOW TO FIX THEM PART BY PART ? / TREATMENTS DONE PART BY PART

6. LASER TREATMENT


7. SOFTMAXXES
Jump in if you know how fillers and botox works




WHAT ARE WRINKLES AND FINE LINES ? . WHY A LOOKS KILLER ?

Random ass photo for no reason
View attachment 5129627


So Fine lines and wrinkles are natural creases and folds in the skin. Fine lines are early stage lines (usually under 1mm deep) caused by facial expressions. As skin loses collagen, elasticity, and hydration over time, these shallow creases deepen and become permanent, developing into wrinkles. Wrinkles are also a part of aging process


Human attraction is deeply wired to biological signals of health and fertility. Youth is one of the strongest proxies for both. Wrinkles are one of the clearest visible signals of aging . so the brain reads them as reduced reproductive fitness . So this will be a reason why a foid wont want an oldcel
Having wrinkles is sign of losing health it shows lack of collagen . losing facial volume .decreasing testosterone and stress






AT WHICH PARTS OF THE FACE DO WE GET THEM ?
Not in depth at this section but im writing this to give over view

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1. FOREHEAD WRINKLES --> Fore head wrinkles are the horizontal line in fore head it is primarily caused by repetitive facial expression the alteration of frontalis muscle determines the fore head line formed or forehead wrinkles although aging and collagen loss also causes it contraction and de contraction of frontalis causes skin to bunch and fold we will come in depth in next

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2. FROWN LINES --> Frown lines are also called as glabellar rhytides these wrinkles comes at the glabella region alteration of glabellar complex forms this wrinkles (glabellar complex = many muscle group)

View attachment 5134632

Corrugator supercilii --> pulls the eye brow medially and downward or inward and downward ( tail and head )

Procerus--> it also pulls the brow downward and alters it causing frown line and contracts too

Depressor supercilii --> yeah same shit but more direct

Medial orbicular oculi --> same shit :feelspepo:

all these muscle work almost same and together to create frown lines (11 lines )


3. CROWS FEET -->Fine lines and wrinkles that forms out from the outer corners of your eyes its called crow feet cause it looks like crow feet around eyes you know what i mean . its formed by movement of orbicularis oculi the muscle around eye area . Orbicularis oculi contraction causes this. every time you smile , you laugh , you squint , blink this will cause orbicularis to contract and cause wrinkle over time

View attachment 5134780
4. BUNNY LINES --> SO like this is a horizontal line formed or wrinkle formed around of bridge side of nose since the above image i added didn't had a clear representation of bunny line so this is what it looks like

View attachment 5138788


So this is like mainly formed by the movement of nasalis muscle and appear during active facial movement unlike other which can be seen on rest so nasalis muscle is like active during like smiling squinting and laughing so nasalis muscle has two component called transverse and alar component this work together to cause bunny lines or muscle movement

View attachment 5138810


5. LIP LINES--> So this is like a vertical line forming up and below the lips and the above image i added didn't represent this properly so
View attachment 5138856
this is also called smokers line the main muscle for this orbicularis oris so this activated byy actions like speaking, eating, drinking from a straw, or whistling and smoking too etc

the green part is this muscle


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6. MARIONETTE LINES --> Marionette lines are vertical facial creases that run from the corners of the mouth down to the chin So the main muscle for this is Depressor Anguli Oris the line is mainly caused by the action of mouth pulling down ward and orbicularis oris also plays a role in here with
Platysma -->Tension or loosening in this neck muscle can pull the lower face downward works same but holds the lower third
Mentalis--> This is the chin muscle its upward contraction is also the reason for marionette lines

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7. MENTAL CREASE --> Its a horizontal crease between chin and lower lip caused by mentalis muscle when the muscle contracts upward it causes this and other muscle like orbicularis oris and depressor anguli oris also work together with mentalis to cause this and yeah platysma also work with this and extra muscle is depressor labii inferioris this muscle is important to control lower lip position

ig the diagram is up so i didn't add it this time

8. NASOLABIAL FOLDS --> Ig @kdev had made a good thread regarding this so watch out that for Nasolabial folds





HOW WRINKLES ARE FORMED ?
We know about three layer of skin right dermis epidermis and hypodermis right ? Im not explaining this

View attachment 5144219
So wrinkles are of two types dynamic and static
Dynamic wrinkles --> Caused by muscle movement so every time your muscle contract or do some work the skin above it folds for example Lines on your forehead, frown lines between your eyebrows, and crow's feet at the corners of your eyes develop because of small muscle contractions from smiling, frowning, squinting, and other habitual facial expression

Static wrinkles--> So these are caused by structural damage to dermis it self via collagen + elastin loss and the dynamic wrinkles become static over time due to muscle movement + collagen + elastin loss

Lets break down loss of collagen in body and why do we get wrinkles

Getting old( water :uwotWater: ig )--> In general as we get older the number of cells in the skin that produce collagen and elastin known as fibroblasts, begins to decrease and the remaining fibroblasts become less productive with age existing structural proteins in the skin are broken down by enzymes at a higher rate than they were in the past. Aging also causes the top layer of the skin's epidermis, called the stratum corneum to become thinner. This structural shift makes it more difficult for the skin to retain moisture, and dry skin makes any wrinkles more visible
Starting around your mid-20's collagen production drops roughly 1% per year. By your 40s and 50s it will drop up to 30 % in total

During skin repairment:unsure:--> During the repair process, some broken elastic fibers and collagen fibers are not regenerated but replaced by altered fibers. When an elastic fiber breaks in an extended state, it may be replaced by a longer collagen fiber. The accumulation of these long collagen fibers makes part of the skin looser and stiffer, and a large fold appears. When a long collagen chain breaks in a compressed state it may be replaced by a short chain collagen fiber. The shorter fibers restrict extension of the longer fibers locking them in a folded state permanently and creating a wrinkle ( can tl;dr ) this

UV damage(imp) --> UV hits the skin ok UVA radiation (320–400 nm) generates reactive oxygen species (ROS) in both the dermis and epidermis. UVB radiation (280–320 nm) does the same and also directly damages DNA . ROS triggers enzyme release. When UV light damages skin tissue, the body produces an enzyme called metalloproteinase (MMP). So those who know MMP breaks down ECM . so what this does is actually degrade collagen allowing the tissue to heal so yk what happens when collagen goes wrinkles
UV exposure actually upregulates this by a lot

Different MMPs go after different collagen types: MMP-1, MMP-8, and MMP-13 degrade fibrillar collagen. MMP-2 and MMP-9 degrade collagen types I and IV and UV rays also block collagen formation too or collagen synthesis
View attachment 5144553


Reactive oxygen species --> ROS is produced through cellular oxidative metabolism stress and mitochondrial disfunction this is really environmental and caused by environmental factors like stress UV rays smoking poor nutrition mitochondrial imbalance and all watch some health guru regarding this
ROS damages lipid protein DNA and over decades of this natural repairment cant catch up
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THATS ALL IG:feelsthink: IG




HOW TO FIX THEM PART BY PART ? / TREATMENTS DONE PART BY PART OR DIY BOTOX FILLERS

1. FOREHEAD WRINKLES --> 4 ways filler and Botox and fat graft or laser resurfacing laser is common asf ill tell this is in bottom section
Botox --> So like this thing is injected on the frontalis muscle and other muscle area ill i have sum it all in a image so im not explaning it more, ai made with my info this is my new formatting

before jumping


tbh im not a doctor and haven't tried myself (diy) so jfl at you if you think explaning from my side will help any thing with this guide

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BEFORE AND AFTER


HA Fillers --> Filler injected at fore head to give volume and reduce wrinkle botox + filler is a good combo this will also treat deep wrinkle lines

View attachment 5146778
Know this

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BEFORE AND AFTER

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Fat grafting --> so fat is harvested from abdomen or thigh area and then purified and injected layer by layer don't do this your self you need to get it done on a clinic

BEFORE AND AFTER




this goes hand to hand with laser resurfacing

2. FROWN LINES -->i mean i explained at bit earlier so

Botox

View attachment 5150649






BEFORE AND AFTER



HA Fillers--> used for deep frown line usually wont be treated with botox this region has huge supply of blood vessel so its a high risk area




this video uses both botox and filler

View attachment 5151496

View attachment 5151497

If you didn't understand this image cause this is blurry ig but still see the image guess i have to explain myself :feelspepo:

So the Depth should deep right on the bone i mean wdym by right on to the bone it should be done until you get the resistance of bone then why so deep cause the supratrochlear artery runs in this zonei it travels upward through the muscle and then into the skin. So going deeper (below the artery) is actually safer than injecting mid-layer where the vessel lives.


Needle/Cannula should be 27G . If needle, 27–30G, inject slowly with aspiration.


Volume should be 0.05–0.1 ml per point. Total session max 0.2–0.3 ml.


Points: 3–5 points — 1 midline procerus, 2 medial corrugator (bilateral), 2 optional lateral corrugator (higher risk, cannula only).


Technique: Retrograde linear threading. Slow, low pressure. Aspirate (withdrawing fluid using suction) before each depot. search what retrograde means

Botox 2 weeks before filler always relaxes muscle, reduces migration, extends longevity .yeah goes hand to hand


Note: Supratrochlear artery exits medial canthus vertical line ~1.5 cm above orbital rim. Supraorbital exits mid-pupil line. Stay deep and midline to avoid both.

BEFORE AND AFTER




Fat graft --> i mean same shit just get it done if you want to will make a table comparing filler fat graft and botox and yeah i couldn't find before and after for fat graft at frown lines :feelsrope:


you might be bored :DanceShake::AMOGUS:




3.CROWS FEET


thread made by @Avskinov explained about it too ig :feelspepo: ig :feelsthink: idont wanna talk this will be too long tell me if the thread missed some thing ill edit it quick asap wanna get botb n shit:feelsgah:



4.BUNNY LINES

So Claude and some doc told me that fillers are generally not recommended at this area so Botox is only option you need to grunch to identify the line formation zone from which point does it forms and mark those area

View attachment 5155308




0.32 TO 1.30 TIMESTAMP:ogre:




Explaining this study

Anatomical data show that the region between the medial canthus and nasal dorsum — where bunny lines appear — is not underlain by a discrete muscle, but is instead a non-muscular interval called the bunny triangle, bordered by the procerus, transverse nasalis, LLSAN, and medial orbicularis oculi. The visible wrinkles correspond to skin folding over this muscle-free zone, while adjacent muscles contract peripherally

inject this way


Transverse nasalis (primary driver): Small injections of 1–2 units of BoNT-A along its superior border on the upper nasal sidewall effectively reduce line formation.
LLSAN (secondary contributor): Micro-aliquots of 0.5–1 unit at its superior-medial border can suppress over-elevation of the nasal ala, but must be placed cautiously to avoid alar ptosis or upper-lip elevator weakness.

Medial orbicularis oculi: A conservative injection at the medial canthal border is indicated when strong lateral traction accentuates the crease.

Procerus: If glabellar contraction extends into the nasal root, a low-dose (1 unit) injection at its inferolateral margin may complement treatment.

more precise image

View attachment 5155486


so scrunch from where the lines start see mark the place and inject while avoiding vessel inject 1 to 2 units per dot as whole and avoid the vessel too

BEFORE AND AFTER



this video has treated bunny with frown lines too


THIS MUCH FOR NOW ILL EXPLAIN IN NEXT PART SOFTMAXXING AND OTHER STUFF THINGS


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water aah thread but mirin effort . u need some more niche and better topic for botb tho . ig ull get a sticky tho
 
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water aah thread but mirin effort . u need some more niche and better topic for botb tho . ig ull get a sticky tho
bro i must explain some russian experimental drug tbh like some cancer treating drug increasing collagen n shit :lul:
 
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water aah thread but mirin effort . u need some more niche and better topic for botb tho . ig ull get a sticky tho
like havent seen wrinkle guide in org till now
 
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like havent seen wrinkle guide in org till now
everyone knows the solution botox and fillers and several good diy filler gyides have been posted on various features. if u did a diy filler for these wrinkles mentioned if u have any it would make it unique
 
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thats was just like diy filler bhai wdy think iadded injection markers veins and injection technique
everyone knows the solution botox and fillers and several good diy filler gyides have been posted on various features. if u did a diy filler for these wrinkles mentioned if u have any it would make it unique
 
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TABLE OF CONTENTS

1. WHAT ARE WRINKLES AND FINE LINES ? . WHY A LOOKS KILLER ?

2. AT WHICH PARTS OF THE FACE DO WE GET THEM ?

3. HOW WRINKLES ARE FORMED ?

5. HOW TO FIX THEM PART BY PART ? / TREATMENTS DONE PART BY PART

6. LASER TREATMENT


7. SOFTMAXXES
Jump in if you know how fillers and botox works




WHAT ARE WRINKLES AND FINE LINES ? . WHY A LOOKS KILLER ?

Random ass photo for no reason
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So Fine lines and wrinkles are natural creases and folds in the skin. Fine lines are early stage lines (usually under 1mm deep) caused by facial expressions. As skin loses collagen, elasticity, and hydration over time, these shallow creases deepen and become permanent, developing into wrinkles. Wrinkles are also a part of aging process


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Having wrinkles is sign of losing health it shows lack of collagen . losing facial volume .decreasing testosterone and stress






AT WHICH PARTS OF THE FACE DO WE GET THEM ?
Not in depth at this section but im writing this to give over view

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1. FOREHEAD WRINKLES --> Fore head wrinkles are the horizontal line in fore head it is primarily caused by repetitive facial expression the alteration of frontalis muscle determines the fore head line formed or forehead wrinkles although aging and collagen loss also causes it contraction and de contraction of frontalis causes skin to bunch and fold we will come in depth in next

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2. FROWN LINES --> Frown lines are also called as glabellar rhytides these wrinkles comes at the glabella region alteration of glabellar complex forms this wrinkles (glabellar complex = many muscle group)

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Corrugator supercilii --> pulls the eye brow medially and downward or inward and downward ( tail and head )

Procerus--> it also pulls the brow downward and alters it causing frown line and contracts too

Depressor supercilii --> yeah same shit but more direct

Medial orbicular oculi --> same shit :feelspepo:

all these muscle work almost same and together to create frown lines (11 lines )


3. CROWS FEET -->Fine lines and wrinkles that forms out from the outer corners of your eyes its called crow feet cause it looks like crow feet around eyes you know what i mean . its formed by movement of orbicularis oculi the muscle around eye area . Orbicularis oculi contraction causes this. every time you smile , you laugh , you squint , blink this will cause orbicularis to contract and cause wrinkle over time

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4. BUNNY LINES --> SO like this is a horizontal line formed or wrinkle formed around of bridge side of nose since the above image i added didn't had a clear representation of bunny line so this is what it looks like

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So this is like mainly formed by the movement of nasalis muscle and appear during active facial movement unlike other which can be seen on rest so nasalis muscle is like active during like smiling squinting and laughing so nasalis muscle has two component called transverse and alar component this work together to cause bunny lines or muscle movement

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5. LIP LINES--> So this is like a vertical line forming up and below the lips and the above image i added didn't represent this properly so
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this is also called smokers line the main muscle for this orbicularis oris so this activated byy actions like speaking, eating, drinking from a straw, or whistling and smoking too etc

the green part is this muscle


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6. MARIONETTE LINES --> Marionette lines are vertical facial creases that run from the corners of the mouth down to the chin So the main muscle for this is Depressor Anguli Oris the line is mainly caused by the action of mouth pulling down ward and orbicularis oris also plays a role in here with
Platysma -->Tension or loosening in this neck muscle can pull the lower face downward works same but holds the lower third
Mentalis--> This is the chin muscle its upward contraction is also the reason for marionette lines

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7. MENTAL CREASE --> Its a horizontal crease between chin and lower lip caused by mentalis muscle when the muscle contracts upward it causes this and other muscle like orbicularis oris and depressor anguli oris also work together with mentalis to cause this and yeah platysma also work with this and extra muscle is depressor labii inferioris this muscle is important to control lower lip position

ig the diagram is up so i didn't add it this time

8. NASOLABIAL FOLDS --> Ig @kdev had made a good thread regarding this so watch out that for Nasolabial folds





HOW WRINKLES ARE FORMED ?
We know about three layer of skin right dermis epidermis and hypodermis right ? Im not explaining this

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So wrinkles are of two types dynamic and static
Dynamic wrinkles --> Caused by muscle movement so every time your muscle contract or do some work the skin above it folds for example Lines on your forehead, frown lines between your eyebrows, and crow's feet at the corners of your eyes develop because of small muscle contractions from smiling, frowning, squinting, and other habitual facial expression

Static wrinkles--> So these are caused by structural damage to dermis it self via collagen + elastin loss and the dynamic wrinkles become static over time due to muscle movement + collagen + elastin loss

Lets break down loss of collagen in body and why do we get wrinkles

Getting old( water :uwotWater: ig )--> In general as we get older the number of cells in the skin that produce collagen and elastin known as fibroblasts, begins to decrease and the remaining fibroblasts become less productive with age existing structural proteins in the skin are broken down by enzymes at a higher rate than they were in the past. Aging also causes the top layer of the skin's epidermis, called the stratum corneum to become thinner. This structural shift makes it more difficult for the skin to retain moisture, and dry skin makes any wrinkles more visible
Starting around your mid-20's collagen production drops roughly 1% per year. By your 40s and 50s it will drop up to 30 % in total

During skin repairment:unsure:--> During the repair process, some broken elastic fibers and collagen fibers are not regenerated but replaced by altered fibers. When an elastic fiber breaks in an extended state, it may be replaced by a longer collagen fiber. The accumulation of these long collagen fibers makes part of the skin looser and stiffer, and a large fold appears. When a long collagen chain breaks in a compressed state it may be replaced by a short chain collagen fiber. The shorter fibers restrict extension of the longer fibers locking them in a folded state permanently and creating a wrinkle ( can tl;dr ) this

UV damage(imp) --> UV hits the skin ok UVA radiation (320–400 nm) generates reactive oxygen species (ROS) in both the dermis and epidermis. UVB radiation (280–320 nm) does the same and also directly damages DNA . ROS triggers enzyme release. When UV light damages skin tissue, the body produces an enzyme called metalloproteinase (MMP). So those who know MMP breaks down ECM . so what this does is actually degrade collagen allowing the tissue to heal so yk what happens when collagen goes wrinkles
UV exposure actually upregulates this by a lot

Different MMPs go after different collagen types: MMP-1, MMP-8, and MMP-13 degrade fibrillar collagen. MMP-2 and MMP-9 degrade collagen types I and IV and UV rays also block collagen formation too or collagen synthesis
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Reactive oxygen species --> ROS is produced through cellular oxidative metabolism stress and mitochondrial disfunction this is really environmental and caused by environmental factors like stress UV rays smoking poor nutrition mitochondrial imbalance and all watch some health guru regarding this
ROS damages lipid protein DNA and over decades of this natural repairment cant catch up
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THATS ALL IG:feelsthink: IG




HOW TO FIX THEM PART BY PART ? / TREATMENTS DONE PART BY PART OR DIY BOTOX FILLERS

1. FOREHEAD WRINKLES --> 4 ways filler and Botox and fat graft or laser resurfacing laser is common asf ill tell this is in bottom section
Botox --> So like this thing is injected on the frontalis muscle and other muscle area ill i have sum it all in a image so im not explaning it more, ai made with my info this is my new formatting

before jumping


tbh im not a doctor and haven't tried myself (diy) so jfl at you if you think explaning from my side will help any thing with this guide

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BEFORE AND AFTER


HA Fillers --> Filler injected at fore head to give volume and reduce wrinkle botox + filler is a good combo this will also treat deep wrinkle lines

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Know this

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BEFORE AND AFTER

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Fat grafting --> so fat is harvested from abdomen or thigh area and then purified and injected layer by layer don't do this your self you need to get it done on a clinic

BEFORE AND AFTER




this goes hand to hand with laser resurfacing

2. FROWN LINES -->i mean i explained at bit earlier so

Botox

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BEFORE AND AFTER



HA Fillers--> used for deep frown line usually wont be treated with botox this region has huge supply of blood vessel so its a high risk area




this video uses both botox and filler

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If you didn't understand this image cause this is blurry ig but still see the image guess i have to explain myself :feelspepo:

So the Depth should deep right on the bone i mean wdym by right on to the bone it should be done until you get the resistance of bone then why so deep cause the supratrochlear artery runs in this zonei it travels upward through the muscle and then into the skin. So going deeper (below the artery) is actually safer than injecting mid-layer where the vessel lives.


Needle/Cannula should be 27G . If needle, 27–30G, inject slowly with aspiration.


Volume should be 0.05–0.1 ml per point. Total session max 0.2–0.3 ml.


Points: 3–5 points — 1 midline procerus, 2 medial corrugator (bilateral), 2 optional lateral corrugator (higher risk, cannula only).


Technique: Retrograde linear threading. Slow, low pressure. Aspirate (withdrawing fluid using suction) before each depot. search what retrograde means

Botox 2 weeks before filler always relaxes muscle, reduces migration, extends longevity .yeah goes hand to hand


Note: Supratrochlear artery exits medial canthus vertical line ~1.5 cm above orbital rim. Supraorbital exits mid-pupil line. Stay deep and midline to avoid both.

BEFORE AND AFTER




Fat graft --> i mean same shit just get it done if you want to will make a table comparing filler fat graft and botox and yeah i couldn't find before and after for fat graft at frown lines :feelsrope:


you might be bored :DanceShake::AMOGUS:




3.CROWS FEET


thread made by @Avskinov explained about it too ig :feelspepo: ig :feelsthink: idont wanna talk this will be too long tell me if the thread missed some thing ill edit it quick asap wanna get botb n shit:feelsgah:



4.BUNNY LINES

So Claude and some doc told me that fillers are generally not recommended at this area so Botox is only option you need to grunch to identify the line formation zone from which point does it forms and mark those area

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Explaining this study

Anatomical data show that the region between the medial canthus and nasal dorsum — where bunny lines appear — is not underlain by a discrete muscle, but is instead a non-muscular interval called the bunny triangle, bordered by the procerus, transverse nasalis, LLSAN, and medial orbicularis oculi. The visible wrinkles correspond to skin folding over this muscle-free zone, while adjacent muscles contract peripherally

inject this way


Transverse nasalis (primary driver): Small injections of 1–2 units of BoNT-A along its superior border on the upper nasal sidewall effectively reduce line formation.
LLSAN (secondary contributor): Micro-aliquots of 0.5–1 unit at its superior-medial border can suppress over-elevation of the nasal ala, but must be placed cautiously to avoid alar ptosis or upper-lip elevator weakness.

Medial orbicularis oculi: A conservative injection at the medial canthal border is indicated when strong lateral traction accentuates the crease.

Procerus: If glabellar contraction extends into the nasal root, a low-dose (1 unit) injection at its inferolateral margin may complement treatment.

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so scrunch from where the lines start see mark the place and inject while avoiding vessel inject 1 to 2 units per dot as whole and avoid the vessel too

BEFORE AND AFTER



this video has treated bunny with frown lines too


THIS MUCH FOR NOW ILL EXPLAIN IN NEXT PART SOFTMAXXING AND OTHER STUFF THINGS


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