how to help being ND as fuck (although ND is better)

[coreym1374]

It’s like 3AM and I decided to make a low IQ/effort post. My truth is that I have pride in being ND, as while it’s been hard, I’ve taken the time over my life to personally learn how to statusmaxx/jestermaxx. But I know that many of you who are also ND struggle with this, and want to learn how. I’ve been doing a slight amount of research behind it and I will give you the simplest science I know for if it’s possible to lower your inhib + what you can do instead.


Let's be completely honest here. The studies on this are much more scarce than you think. Just like how it already was with looksmaxxing, you can’t just look up “how to make more friends,” like you would look up “how do I expand my mandible and jelqmaxx so I can have a bigger penis” and expect immediate results by performance. That is NEVER how it worked. You always gotta dig deep, through NT reddit threads or whatever. Whatever you believe works for you.

Basic Info, Suggestions, NT-Base Knowledge
Nobody will be mirin you purely based off you being a nonchalant weirdo who keeps a musty ass hoodie on (little mini tip: the only fragrance you need for being musty is some stupid ass name-brand JPEG. Don’t buy any other cope because it’s most likely filled with endocrine disruptors and you won’t get compliments nor smell any better. But that’s not the point here). Take that shit off. Maybe dress better. But the key is to make short-worded responses at first. Someone talks to you, or you talk to someone, be as NT as humanly fucking possible. Unlike what you think, most of the people around you actually crave normal human interaction without knowing it. They’re already swamped with friends that know them fully, every single detail, and just dap them up in the hallways and walk the other direction. Be forward and open, but of course this doesn’t work without getting a little bit of research in.

A Little Bit Deeper (Beyond NT, but still hiding semblance to being ND)
If your high school is prominent in sports, for example, create an Instagram account, go to the ASB pages for your year, and football pages, scroll through them and follow people you recognize (from the hallways, from class, or who have “(HS) (Year)’” in their bio). Go through their posts. Look through the comments. See who’s commenting. Look through theirs as well. Find out shit they’ve done.


If you want to get with a girl, for example, ask “how was __?” if they went somewhere. Something that (for some fucking reason) worked to add surprise to the conversation is that I claimed I didn’t have something most people have (like a car or a house). I don’t really know, it can be anything — I’m just not leaking what I said specifically (not because gatekeep, just because I get hyperspecific about that shit idk). This means stalking their highlights for a bit. Find something your ND mind recognizes, and can connect to. If you're a geography nerd, and they have a vacation highlight, don't be too much with it but go easy, make sure you're laying down basic shit to them and not rambling on about how much you know about (insert cunt-try)


Also – Don’t use chemicals to directly “lower your inhib.” That's not possible. It's more indirect.You should work on naturally trying to lower your cortisol levels in social situations. Before school, you can take a peptide like Selank.


But wait? How the fuck would Selank work?

More Into The Science Of It (no you dont make this topic of convo with NT-chads)

Well, let’s think deeper about it. Why is the term “You’re nervous” and “nervous” so common to describe being scared in social situations? Because it’s fucking true. Selank specifically, acting as a nootropic stress reliever, claims its anxiolytic title by inducing modulatory action on the GABAergic system.


To be more accurate: Selank is a synthetic peptide (an analog of tuftsin) that has shown effects in preclinical and limited human studies. It does not directly bind to GABA-A receptors like benzodiazepines, but it increases the expression of GABA-related genes and enhances inhibitory tone. GABA receptors suppress neural firing (via chloride influx into neurons), slowing down overactive circuits, which helps regulate anxiety. Basically, Excessive stress = elevated cortisol = impaired prefrontal cortex function (the part that regulates planning, social inhibition, and working memory). By modulating this system, Selank can normalize stress responses.


The evidence is thin, though. Many trials were small, non–double-blind, or limited to Russian clinical settings. Out of 9 studies, only a minority reported statistical significance (p < 0.05). Others showed borderline results, and at least one trial found null effects (p > 0.05). So: it may help, but if it really gets to this point JFL. In my own opinion, I feel that these results are more speculative and can still have a major impact on MANY people, including those who are ND (as I don't believe the treatments were applied to specifically ND patients)

Incorporating NT knowledge with ND explanation
Then again, it doesn’t just require peptides. It also simply requires a change in mindset. That as an issue is much more multifaceted than changes in mRNA levels.


The only tip I can really give on that is to incorporate one thing into your train of thought when talking or thinking of talking to a person: “Whatever I say, will it impact me long-term? Do I have a conscious reason to stress about what I might say? I know I won’t say anything necessarily hurtful or wrong to them, and if I somehow do, it won’t be the end of the world. Will this be a problem?” This reframing reduces anticipatory anxiety, which is largely driven by an overactive amygdala sending false alarms to your brain.


Another thing I looked into on my journey through bullshit was SSRIs, or most forms of serotonergic treatment.


Simply put: serotonin modulates social behavior by increasing affiliative behavior (NOT extroversion directly, but a foundation for it) and decreasing negative affect. Negative affect isn’t just internalized (“I’m a piece of shit, I have an ugly face”), but externalized too (reflecting that attitude onto others in conversation).


SSRIs increase extracellular serotonin by inhibiting reuptake. Over time (weeks, not days), this desensitizes autoreceptors and enhances serotonin tone across circuits regulating mood, social behavior, and inhibition of overactive fear pathways (especially in the amygdala). However, SSRIs are much less readily available than peptides like Selank or Semax, and they come with side effects and longer timelines for effects to emerge.


This is, of course, my first long essay-type thread, so it’s going to be shitty. I will eventually update it with more concrete research and backing behind my claims. Please don’t be too brutal. Additionally, there are MUCH more research chemicals that either do or don’t have a lot more clinical studies and proof behind them than just Selank, so it’s interesting to research those as well. I'll keep editing so it's better formatted. Please help me format it better below​

 

[inversions]

dont write in black next time mate

 

[Bryce]

dont write in black next time mate

 

[ScienceCel]

make the font smaller next time i can almost read this

It's like 3AM and I decided to make a low IQ/effort post. My truth is that I have pride in being ND as while it's been hard, I've taken the time over my life to personally learn how to statusmaxx/jestermaxx. But I know that many of you who are also ND struggle with this, and want to learn how. I've been doing a slight amount of research behind it and I will give you the simplest science I know for if it's possible to lower your inhib + what you can do instead.

First - let's be completely honest here. The studies on this are much more scarce than you think. Just like how it already was with Looksmaxxing, you can't just look up "how to make more friends", like you would look up "how do i expand my mandible and jelqmaxx so i can have a bigger penis" and expect immediate results by performance. That is NEVER how it worked, you always gotta dig deep, through NT reddit threads or whatever. Whatever you believe works for you. Second - Nobody will be mirin you purely based off you being a nonchalant weirdo who keeps a musty ass hoodie on (little mini tip but the only fragrance you need for being musty is some stupid ass name-brand JPEG, don't buy any other cope because it's most likely filled with fucktons of endocrine disruptors and you wont get compliments nor smell any better, but thats not the point here). Take that shit off, maybe dress better, but the key is to make short-worded responses at first. Someone talks to you, or you talk to someone, be as NT as humanly fucking possible. Unlike what you think, most the people around you actually crave normal human interaction without knowing it, as they're already swamped with friends that know them fully, every single detail about them, and just dap them up in the hallways and walk the other direction. Be forward and open, but of course this doesn't work without getting a little bit of research in. Third - Dig. Your highschool is prominent in sports, for example. Create an Instagram account, go to the ASB pages for your year, and football pages, scroll through them and follow people you recognize, from the hallways, from class, or they'll have "(HS) (Year)'" in their bio. Go through their posts. Look through the comments. See who's commenting. Look through theirs as well. Find out shit that they've done. If you want to get with a girl, for example, ask "how was __?" if they went somewhere. Something that, for some fucking reason worked to add surprise to the conversation is that I claimed I didn't have something that most people have, like a car or a house, I don't really know it can be anything I'm just not leaking what I said specifically (not because gatekeep, just because I get hyperspecific about that shit idk). Also - Don't use chemicals to directly "lower your inhib" you should work on naturally trying to lower your cortisol levels in social situations. Before school, you can take a peptide like Selank.

But wait? How the fuck would Selank work? Well let's think deeper about it - Why is the term "You're nervous" and "Nervous" so common to describe being scared in social situations? Well because it's fucking true. Selank specifically, acting as a nootropic stress reliever, claims its anxiolytic title by inducing inhibitory action of GABA receptors. GABA receptors are responsible for suppressing neural firing, which is transmitting information throughout other nerve cells via electrical/chemical signaling. It's important to regulate this as low regulation can be unhealthy and promote high cortisol levels. Eventually this can lead to major psychoactive disorders that can be added onto from your environment, which school can significantly contribute to, again. Selank helps, not FULLY but to an extent, as of course these studies are very limited in both resource and proof (p-value in many cases only showed slight change, 1 out of 9 instances absolutely proved null hypotheses, p>0.05, although this is not suggesting it doesn't work, just only proves in some instances it makes a significant difference, a lot of the values were only slightly under 0.05)

Then again, it doesn't just require peptides, it also simply requires a change in mindset. Although that as an issue is much more multifaceted then changes in mRNA levels, which is why I have a lot to learn myself. The only tip I can really give on that is to incorporate one thing into your train of thought when talking or thinking of talking to a person - "Whatever I say, will it impact me long-term? Do I have a conscious reason to stress about what I might say? I know I won't say anything necessarily hurtful or wrong to them, and if I somehow do it wont be the end of the world, will this be a problem?" Again, there is much more to it, but I can really only give you the science behind this. I've already struggled (as ND) to explain this with my own thinking and logic, and I hope to see replies expressing on what they think while talking to a person, what they go through in a extroverted environment.

Another thing I looked into on my journey through bullshit was SSRIs, or most forms of serotonergic treatment. Simply put, serotonin modulates social aspects in behavior by increasing affiliative behavior (NOT extroversion, it's a key component of such however) and decreasing negative affective experience (which doesnt JUST include self-inflicted negative emotions, but reflection of that onto other people through conversation is reduced, e.g, "I'm a piece of shit and I have an ugly face. I will reflect my opinion of such onto someone who I deeply believe is such."). SSRIs, however, I see are much less readily available then most common research chemicals such as Selank or Semax (nootropic/anxiolytic)

This is of course my first long essay type thread, so it's going to be shitty. I will eventually update it with more concrete research and backing behind my claims. Please don't be too brutal. Additionally, there are MUCH more research chemicals that either do or don't have a lot more clinical studies and proof behind them then just Selank, so it's interesting to research those as well.

 

[ru58841]

dont write in black next time mate

@Bryce @ScienceCel


Here’s a condensed summary of the post you shared:

---

The writer (ND = neurodivergent) explains their experience learning how to “statusmaxx/jestermaxx” (socially improve and joke around) despite difficulties. They want to share advice for other ND people struggling with social skills.

Key points:

• Research is scarce: Social skills aren’t as simple to “hack” as looksmaxxing or bodybuilding; there’s no instant fix.
• Presentation matters: Don’t rely on being quirky or messy. Dress decently, keep interactions short and normal at first—people crave ordinary human interaction.
• Social strategy: Investigate your school’s social networks (sports teams, ASB pages, Instagram). Learn about people’s activities, then use that knowledge to start conversations. Small surprising details can help make you memorable.
• Avoid drugs to “lower inhibitions”: Instead, aim to reduce stress naturally. Selank (a peptide nootropic) may help by regulating GABA receptors, lowering cortisol, and easing social anxiety, though evidence is mixed and not conclusive.
• Mindset shift: Ask yourself whether what you say will have any real long-term consequence. Realize mistakes in conversation aren’t world-ending.
• SSRIs: These can improve social behavior by boosting serotonin and reducing negative self-reflection, but they’re harder to access compared to research nootropics.
• Conclusion: Improving social skills is a mix of mindset, environment, and possibly nootropic support. The writer acknowledges their post is rough and hopes to refine it with stronger evidence.

 

[elkkkk]

It's like 3AM and I decided to make a low IQ/effort post. My truth is that I have pride in being ND as while it's been hard, I've taken the time over my life to personally learn how to statusmaxx/jestermaxx. But I know that many of you who are also ND struggle with this, and want to learn how. I've been doing a slight amount of research behind it and I will give you the simplest science I know for if it's possible to lower your inhib + what you can do instead.

First - let's be completely honest here. The studies on this are much more scarce than you think. Just like how it already was with Looksmaxxing, you can't just look up "how to make more friends", like you would look up "how do i expand my mandible and jelqmaxx so i can have a bigger penis" and expect immediate results by performance. That is NEVER how it worked, you always gotta dig deep, through NT reddit threads or whatever. Whatever you believe works for you. Second - Nobody will be mirin you purely based off you being a nonchalant weirdo who keeps a musty ass hoodie on (little mini tip but the only fragrance you need for being musty is some stupid ass name-brand JPEG, don't buy any other cope because it's most likely filled with fucktons of endocrine disruptors and you wont get compliments nor smell any better, but thats not the point here). Take that shit off, maybe dress better, but the key is to make short-worded responses at first. Someone talks to you, or you talk to someone, be as NT as humanly fucking possible. Unlike what you think, most the people around you actually crave normal human interaction without knowing it, as they're already swamped with friends that know them fully, every single detail about them, and just dap them up in the hallways and walk the other direction. Be forward and open, but of course this doesn't work without getting a little bit of research in. Third - Dig. Your highschool is prominent in sports, for example. Create an Instagram account, go to the ASB pages for your year, and football pages, scroll through them and follow people you recognize, from the hallways, from class, or they'll have "(HS) (Year)'" in their bio. Go through their posts. Look through the comments. See who's commenting. Look through theirs as well. Find out shit that they've done. If you want to get with a girl, for example, ask "how was __?" if they went somewhere. Something that, for some fucking reason worked to add surprise to the conversation is that I claimed I didn't have something that most people have, like a car or a house, I don't really know it can be anything I'm just not leaking what I said specifically (not because gatekeep, just because I get hyperspecific about that shit idk). Also - Don't use chemicals to directly "lower your inhib" you should work on naturally trying to lower your cortisol levels in social situations. Before school, you can take a peptide like Selank.

But wait? How the fuck would Selank work? Well let's think deeper about it - Why is the term "You're nervous" and "Nervous" so common to describe being scared in social situations? Well because it's fucking true. Selank specifically, acting as a nootropic stress reliever, claims its anxiolytic title by inducing inhibitory action of GABA receptors. GABA receptors are responsible for suppressing neural firing, which is transmitting information throughout other nerve cells via electrical/chemical signaling. It's important to regulate this as low regulation can be unhealthy and promote high cortisol levels. Eventually this can lead to major psychoactive disorders that can be added onto from your environment, which school can significantly contribute to, again. Selank helps, not FULLY but to an extent, as of course these studies are very limited in both resource and proof (p-value in many cases only showed slight change, 1 out of 9 instances absolutely proved null hypotheses, p>0.05, although this is not suggesting it doesn't work, just only proves in some instances it makes a significant difference, a lot of the values were only slightly under 0.05)

Then again, it doesn't just require peptides, it also simply requires a change in mindset. Although that as an issue is much more multifaceted then changes in mRNA levels, which is why I have a lot to learn myself. The only tip I can really give on that is to incorporate one thing into your train of thought when talking or thinking of talking to a person - "Whatever I say, will it impact me long-term? Do I have a conscious reason to stress about what I might say? I know I won't say anything necessarily hurtful or wrong to them, and if I somehow do it wont be the end of the world, will this be a problem?" Again, there is much more to it, but I can really only give you the science behind this. I've already struggled (as ND) to explain this with my own thinking and logic, and I hope to see replies expressing on what they think while talking to a person, what they go through in a extroverted environment.

Another thing I looked into on my journey through bullshit was SSRIs, or most forms of serotonergic treatment. Simply put, serotonin modulates social aspects in behavior by increasing affiliative behavior (NOT extroversion, it's a key component of such however) and decreasing negative affective experience (which doesnt JUST include self-inflicted negative emotions, but reflection of that onto other people through conversation is reduced, e.g, "I'm a piece of shit and I have an ugly face. I will reflect my opinion of such onto someone who I deeply believe is such."). SSRIs, however, I see are much less readily available then most common research chemicals such as Selank or Semax (nootropic/anxiolytic)

This is of course my first long essay type thread, so it's going to be shitty. I will eventually update it with more concrete research and backing behind my claims. Please don't be too brutal. Additionally, there are MUCH more research chemicals that either do or don't have a lot more clinical studies and proof behind them then just Selank, so it's interesting to research those as well.

horrible formatting brah

 

[coreym1374]

@Bryce @ScienceCel


Here’s a condensed summary of the post you shared:

---

The writer (ND = neurodivergent) explains their experience learning how to “statusmaxx/jestermaxx” (socially improve and joke around) despite difficulties. They want to share advice for other ND people struggling with social skills.

Key points:

• Research is scarce: Social skills aren’t as simple to “hack” as looksmaxxing or bodybuilding; there’s no instant fix.
• Presentation matters: Don’t rely on being quirky or messy. Dress decently, keep interactions short and normal at first—people crave ordinary human interaction.
• Social strategy: Investigate your school’s social networks (sports teams, ASB pages, Instagram). Learn about people’s activities, then use that knowledge to start conversations. Small surprising details can help make you memorable.
• Avoid drugs to “lower inhibitions”: Instead, aim to reduce stress naturally. Selank (a peptide nootropic) may help by regulating GABA receptors, lowering cortisol, and easing social anxiety, though evidence is mixed and not conclusive.
• Mindset shift: Ask yourself whether what you say will have any real long-term consequence. Realize mistakes in conversation aren’t world-ending.
• SSRIs: These can improve social behavior by boosting serotonin and reducing negative self-reflection, but they’re harder to access compared to research nootropics.
• Conclusion: Improving social skills is a mix of mindset, environment, and possibly nootropic support. The writer acknowledges their post is rough and hopes to refine it with stronger evidence.

Guess this is better but I don't wanna use ChatGPT and I fucking love long drawn out explanations

 

[coreym1374]

horrible formatting brah

how the fuck else do i format it ngl I don't want big flashy ass letters, also i can still edit

 

[elkkkk]

how the fuck else do i format it ngl I don't want big flashy ass letters, also i can still edit

dont do it black make better undersection work with different colors and make it appealing

 

[inversions]

how the fuck else do i format it ngl I don't want big flashy ass letters, also i can still edit

this is what ur text looks like to most users btw

 

[coreym1374]

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this is what ur text looks like to most users btw

Oh. Huh. Ok

 

[bp_framepill78]

@Bryce @ScienceCel


Here’s a condensed summary of the post you shared:

---

The writer (ND = neurodivergent) explains their experience learning how to “statusmaxx/jestermaxx” (socially improve and joke around) despite difficulties. They want to share advice for other ND people struggling with social skills.

Key points:

• Research is scarce: Social skills aren’t as simple to “hack” as looksmaxxing or bodybuilding; there’s no instant fix.
• Presentation matters: Don’t rely on being quirky or messy. Dress decently, keep interactions short and normal at first—people crave ordinary human interaction.
• Social strategy: Investigate your school’s social networks (sports teams, ASB pages, Instagram). Learn about people’s activities, then use that knowledge to start conversations. Small surprising details can help make you memorable.
• Avoid drugs to “lower inhibitions”: Instead, aim to reduce stress naturally. Selank (a peptide nootropic) may help by regulating GABA receptors, lowering cortisol, and easing social anxiety, though evidence is mixed and not conclusive.
• Mindset shift: Ask yourself whether what you say will have any real long-term consequence. Realize mistakes in conversation aren’t world-ending.
• SSRIs: These can improve social behavior by boosting serotonin and reducing negative self-reflection, but they’re harder to access compared to research nootropics.
• Conclusion: Improving social skills is a mix of mindset, environment, and possibly nootropic support. The writer acknowledges their post is rough and hopes to refine it with stronger evidence.

Mirin

 

[coreym1374]

Edited a bit more, just lmk if there should be anything else

 

[mogmypsl999]

My truth is that I have pride in being ND​

good. nothing else matters. standing (and more important, being pride) to yourself is the key to overbring you're personality. most people on here lack with ,,having pride" on them.