How to increase Bigonial angle/mandible width?

[GetThatBread]

Can Rotterdam Midline Distractors help? Also Bologna Midline Distractors or MSDO.

All 3 are extremely similar

 

[Swolepenisman]

How much does this cost and what is it are they widening your jaw

 

[GetThatBread]

How much does this cost and what is it are they widening your jaw

Distractors and fixators for CMF surgery

In many cases, distraction osteogenesis now represents the method of choice. There is hardly any craniomaxillofacial problem to which we have not responded by designing a special distractor to solve it.

www.klsmartin.com

Here’s the site, click on mandible and see the ones that I shared on this post. I can’t really tell if the entire lower jaw widened or just the certain area that was targeted (chin)

 

[Deleted member 616]

I’m gonna get 2ml fillers soon to see the result. If it looks fine I’ll look for perma fillers (i.e. bellafill) or implants. Not sure about chin wing .

 

[KEy21]

I’m not very familiar with these. Do you know how the gap gets filled in at the end?

Is it a similar mechanism of action to distraction osteogenesis that the idea is that the bone will fuse together and grow new?

I’d be more inclined to worry about a lack of bone growth after extending and then requiring something like a bone graft. Maybe that’s a bit extreme though.


Im assuming you visit your ortho every few weeks with this device to make sure everything is all good?

 

[GetThatBread]

I’m not very familiar with these. Do you know how the gap gets filled in at the end?

Is it a similar mechanism of action to distraction osteogenesis that the idea is that the bone will fuse together and grow new?

I’d be more inclined to worry about a lack of bone growth after extending and then requiring something like a bone graft. Maybe that’s a bit extreme though.


Im assuming you visit your ortho every few weeks with this device to make sure everything is all good?

Yes it’s similar to distraction osteogenesis where new bone is consolidated and I don’t see how that’s even possible where bone growth isn’t guaranteed after being disrupted, although it could be a possibility. My question is does it widen the entire lower jaw? If so then that is extreme life fuel and would tell my ortho to expand 2cm laterally to give me that Meeks look. This is all transversal expansion laterally, The same company also offers saggital expansion

Yes it’s similar to distraction osteogenesis where new bone is consolidated and I don’t see how that’s even possible where bone growth isn’t guaranteed after being disrupted, although it could be a possibility. My question is does it widen the entire lower jaw? If so then that is extreme life fuel and would tell my ortho to expand 2cm laterally to give me that Meeks look. This is all transversal expansion laterally, The same company also offers saggital expansion

 

[KEy21]

Yes it’s similar to distraction osteogenesis where new bone is consolidated and I don’t see how that’s even possible where bone growth isn’t guaranteed after being disrupted, although it could be a possibility. My question is does it widen the entire lower jaw? If so then that is extreme life fuel and would tell my ortho to expand 2cm laterally to give me that Meeks look. This is all transversal expansion laterally, The same company also offers saggital expansion

Yeah that is indeed huge.

I would probably contact the makers and ask them your questions as it seems these are relatively unfamiliar devices it seems in this community and would be less prone to knowing

I wonder how long the process would take in total for that amount of movement, and obvious the device has to be surgically placed as well no? Or would local aenesthetic like In a dentists office suffice?

 

[Almu]

Pretty crazy appliances

 

[Bewusst]

one of my biggest flaws - bigonial width

I’m gonna get 2ml fillers soon to see the result. If it looks fine I’ll look for perma fillers (i.e. bellafill) or implants. Not sure about chin wing .

I believe fillers should be injected beneath the muscle to look good. Otherwise it would probably just look bloated and undefined.

 

[Deleted member 2933]

surgery

 

[her]

MSDO expands the lower jaw, so theoretically it could give you a wider bigonial width.

 

[Dragonslayer]

one of my biggest flaws - bigonial width

I believe fillers should be injected beneath the muscle to look good. Otherwise it would probably just look bloated and undefined.

you look ubermensch in your avi have you already looksmaxed ?

 

[Bewusst]

you look ubermensch in your avi have you already looksmaxed ?

I am looksmaxxing and it's still a long way to go but I appreciate your statement

 

[Deleted member 3832]

Palate expanders. This guy's facial width increased by 8 millimeters (I think both bizygomatic and bigonial but especially bizygomatic) after using the Homeoblock upper and lower appliance. Also you can increase facial width by an extra 1-2 millimeters by getting straight teeth if you have a few crooked teeth. I would recommend Invisalign aligners considering it doesn't destroy your maxilla.

https://looksmax.org/threads/my-palate-before-and-after-expansion.85160/#post-1474026

 

[GetThatBread]

Yeah that is indeed huge.

I would probably contact the makers and ask them your questions as it seems these are relatively unfamiliar devices it seems in this community and would be less prone to knowing

I wonder how long the process would take in total for that amount of movement, and obvious the device has to be surgically placed as well no? Or would local aenesthetic like In a dentists office suffice?

@her @SirGey @Almu does the entire jaw widen? The simulation is said what to expect from the device

 

[Almu]

@her @SirGey @Almu does the entire jaw widen? The simulation is said what to expect from the device

Looks like it does

 

[GetThatBread]

Looks like it does

Life fuel boner

Looks like it does

Life fuel boner

 

[Deleted member 3990]

Distractors and fixators for CMF surgery

In many cases, distraction osteogenesis now represents the method of choice. There is hardly any craniomaxillofacial problem to which we have not responded by designing a special distractor to solve it.

www.klsmartin.com

Here’s the site, click on mandible and see the ones that I shared on this post. I can’t really tell if the entire lower jaw widened or just the certain area that was targeted (chin)

this one looks interesting af

Palate expanders. This guy's facial width increased by 8 millimeters (I think both bizygomatic and bigonial but especially bizygomatic) after using the Homeoblock upper and lower appliance. Also you can increase facial width by an extra 1-2 millimeters by getting straight teeth if you have a few crooked teeth. I would recommend Invisalign aligners considering it doesn't destroy your maxilla.

https://looksmax.org/threads/my-palate-before-and-after-expansion.85160/#post-1474026

is your avi a morph of ERiksen and Maher ?

 

[GetThatBread]

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this one looks interesting af

is your avi a morph of ERiksen and Maher ?

The down time on that is insane, around a month and it isn’t intra-oral but very interesting nonetheless. What’s your thoughts on the mandibular expander?

 

[dadfa]

So we would to experiment by asking our orthodontist to use this device on us?

 

[orthochadic]

MSDO expands the lower jaw, so theoretically it could give you a wider bigonial width.

Sadly no, the back of your mandible rotate outward to allow the front side to widen, but the bigonial width only depends on the distance between the 2 mandibular fossae of your temporal bones. So the only way to legit incresaise bigonial width is from implant.
But if you are a narrowcell, you would need a bug amount of widening, and as the mandible is located under cheekbones, you cannot widen your mandible wider than your actual inner zygoma. So only hgh can save narrowcells, to widen all the facial bones, and a skull implant.

 

[orthochadic]

Sadly no, the back of your mandible rotate outward to allow the front side to widen, but the bigonial width only depends on the distance between the 2 mandibular fossae of your temporal bones. So the only way to legit incresaise bigonial width is from implant.
But if you are a narrowcell, you would need a bug amount of widening, and as the mandible is located under cheekbones, you cannot widen your mandible wider than your actual inner zygoma. So only hgh can save narrowcells, to widen all the facial bones, and a skull implant.

But hgh+ chewing isn't cope.
Don't forget to equally chew between front and backside as well as between left and right side.
Like take a 1 hour chewing session in the morning and a 1 hour chewing session in the evening.
And take your hgh daily.
it does work legit, as canine chewing and incisor chewing develop the browridge and molar chewing widen your skull (the brain doesn't need to grow as your skull also thicken from inward untill reaching your brain)

 

[orthochadic]

Chewing works the same way for you than a 15 years old teen, as long as you use hgh,and that's untill your 70s.

 

[orthochadic]

your skull suture never totally close untill elderly. They are less movable, but remain unossified. Chewing is violent for your bone that would need to adapt.
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[Deleted member 10172]

your skull suture never totally close untill elderly. They are less movable, but remain unossified. Chewing is violent for your bone that would need to adapt.
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so chewing would widen the jaw?

 

[Deleted member 2729]

Its utterly over for narrowjawcels. Implants are only solution it seems

 

[Deleted member 17345]

whats yr bigonial?