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I will be talking about my perspective on the heightmaxxing threads and discourse on this site.
I really don't know how else to say this... but y'all are some losers. As someone who is 5' 6.5', I've been categorized as a "turbomanlet" on this site, and condemned to a life of getting rejected by attractive chad-seeking women based on one physical attribute. On this site, statistics on dating preferences are thrown at you, you are told depressing personal anecdotes, and declarative generalizations are forced upon you. However, put simply, this is retarded.
A bit about my perspective on personal (non-physical) growth and dating. I firmly believe that, outside of height, there is always a next step one can take to improve their chances with women. I am not idealistic, instead I am realistic. If you are a 2/10, you should be looking for women between 1-4/10. But god fucking dammit, if you put some effort in, you could pull a strong four and brag to all your 2/10 friends about her. IN MY OPINION, it is stupid to spend mental energy on obssessing on where your car is on the road rather than pushing it (and learning about how to push it).
Ok its time for dose of how shit actually works in the real world, because some of yall losers really fucking need it. Women make an overall utility-based value judgement on whether they want to sleep with you or date you (two separate arenas) based on innumerable traits and qualities. As corny as this sounds, I think the biggest one is your energy (ill get back to this later). As I said before, I am short, but with the help of posture and nike sneakers, I can consistently pass for 5'7 and 5'8 when Im out. I've found this is more than enough height to be VERY successful in a large dating market (aka a populous city). For context, I have a lot of other things going for me. I am good looking, smart, have a good job, make good money from said job, I am confident and masculine, Im extroverted and social, make friends easily, I work out, make healthy decisions for myself, and im self aware. The list goes on but that is kind of my point. My success in dating has nothing to do with my height but from the myriad other things I bring to the table. I obviously don't think my dating "value" is not influenced by my height, of course it is. But at this point it is so little of a factor that it essentially doesn't matter for me, and I don't think about it too much.
Everyone factors height in to their dating preferences and this is a perfectly normal and valid thing to do. But there is a difference between factoring in height and having it be a hard requirement. I recognize there are many women for which height, being that 6 feet or 6'4, is a hard requirement. My thesis is that a low percent of women (def lower than this forum thinks) have a much more sensible height requirement, which is you being taller than they are. Neck bearded individuals and adult virgins are preparing to stroke their keyboard, citing some bullshit graph saying the bell curve of height preferences among women rests between 6'0-6'2, the average women is 5'4, so this obviously can't be true. No matter the scientific rigor of your counterpoints, you will not explain away the lived experience of every person with one iota of social skill, which says that other things are more important than height. Not to mention ACTUAL WOMEN who will say that it doesn't matter and the guy should just be taller (what inspired me to write this post was a convo I had about this specific topic with a woman). Ive seen the tiktoks of the dense ass bimbos (and a lot of normal women with a tall height preference) who proclaim that a guy MUST be 6 feet to be considered for sex. Not only am I unconcerned about the opinion of these women, but they are not the type of women I go for and neither should they be for you, especially if you are insecure about your height.
I want my personal mindset around height and dating to help y'all because its helped me a lot as its changed from thinking its all that matters to considering it only a proportionate amount. I've had a ton of success after making this change and becoming more confident in general. I don't really use dating apps, which I think is a good option for shorter guys considering the blatant and documented filtering and discrimination on them. Instead, I meet women by developing my social, work, and personal life and things happen organically if you make a conscious effort to flirt and you are secure in yourself. I don't do the red pill guru stuff of approaching strangers in public, but Im sure I could have even more success if I did this. I recognize I have advantages, but as I said earlier, everyone can take tangible steps right now to be more valuable to women. In 100% of cases, I believe the next best step to take is not a heightmaxxing stack or life altering surgery, but instead to change something you have direct control over, that also is something directly relevant to your success with women and dating. This especially applies to guys in the 5'6-5'9 range who, compared to even shorter guys, have nothing to complain about at all in my opinion. A lot of yall are holding yourself back by obsessing over getting taller when you could be obsessing over getting better. This ultimately is more valuable than being taller, and I believe it will eventually surge you past the sexual market value of tall men with hollow personalities.
Yes, its not fair that some people have height and are automatically appealing to women, while possessing none of the other qualities that short men need to develop in order to pull. But developing these other qualities is not only in your complete control, but they will make you a better person. Once you are confident in who you are and what you want, and have the accolades and credibility to back it up, thats when the in-person "energy" that women pick up and that influence how women see you really starts to develop. Its a momentum game at the end of the day and I hope this helps some of yall wake up, get better and pull like yall deserve to <3.
I really don't know how else to say this... but y'all are some losers. As someone who is 5' 6.5', I've been categorized as a "turbomanlet" on this site, and condemned to a life of getting rejected by attractive chad-seeking women based on one physical attribute. On this site, statistics on dating preferences are thrown at you, you are told depressing personal anecdotes, and declarative generalizations are forced upon you. However, put simply, this is retarded.
A bit about my perspective on personal (non-physical) growth and dating. I firmly believe that, outside of height, there is always a next step one can take to improve their chances with women. I am not idealistic, instead I am realistic. If you are a 2/10, you should be looking for women between 1-4/10. But god fucking dammit, if you put some effort in, you could pull a strong four and brag to all your 2/10 friends about her. IN MY OPINION, it is stupid to spend mental energy on obssessing on where your car is on the road rather than pushing it (and learning about how to push it).
Ok its time for dose of how shit actually works in the real world, because some of yall losers really fucking need it. Women make an overall utility-based value judgement on whether they want to sleep with you or date you (two separate arenas) based on innumerable traits and qualities. As corny as this sounds, I think the biggest one is your energy (ill get back to this later). As I said before, I am short, but with the help of posture and nike sneakers, I can consistently pass for 5'7 and 5'8 when Im out. I've found this is more than enough height to be VERY successful in a large dating market (aka a populous city). For context, I have a lot of other things going for me. I am good looking, smart, have a good job, make good money from said job, I am confident and masculine, Im extroverted and social, make friends easily, I work out, make healthy decisions for myself, and im self aware. The list goes on but that is kind of my point. My success in dating has nothing to do with my height but from the myriad other things I bring to the table. I obviously don't think my dating "value" is not influenced by my height, of course it is. But at this point it is so little of a factor that it essentially doesn't matter for me, and I don't think about it too much.
Everyone factors height in to their dating preferences and this is a perfectly normal and valid thing to do. But there is a difference between factoring in height and having it be a hard requirement. I recognize there are many women for which height, being that 6 feet or 6'4, is a hard requirement. My thesis is that a low percent of women (def lower than this forum thinks) have a much more sensible height requirement, which is you being taller than they are. Neck bearded individuals and adult virgins are preparing to stroke their keyboard, citing some bullshit graph saying the bell curve of height preferences among women rests between 6'0-6'2, the average women is 5'4, so this obviously can't be true. No matter the scientific rigor of your counterpoints, you will not explain away the lived experience of every person with one iota of social skill, which says that other things are more important than height. Not to mention ACTUAL WOMEN who will say that it doesn't matter and the guy should just be taller (what inspired me to write this post was a convo I had about this specific topic with a woman). Ive seen the tiktoks of the dense ass bimbos (and a lot of normal women with a tall height preference) who proclaim that a guy MUST be 6 feet to be considered for sex. Not only am I unconcerned about the opinion of these women, but they are not the type of women I go for and neither should they be for you, especially if you are insecure about your height.
I want my personal mindset around height and dating to help y'all because its helped me a lot as its changed from thinking its all that matters to considering it only a proportionate amount. I've had a ton of success after making this change and becoming more confident in general. I don't really use dating apps, which I think is a good option for shorter guys considering the blatant and documented filtering and discrimination on them. Instead, I meet women by developing my social, work, and personal life and things happen organically if you make a conscious effort to flirt and you are secure in yourself. I don't do the red pill guru stuff of approaching strangers in public, but Im sure I could have even more success if I did this. I recognize I have advantages, but as I said earlier, everyone can take tangible steps right now to be more valuable to women. In 100% of cases, I believe the next best step to take is not a heightmaxxing stack or life altering surgery, but instead to change something you have direct control over, that also is something directly relevant to your success with women and dating. This especially applies to guys in the 5'6-5'9 range who, compared to even shorter guys, have nothing to complain about at all in my opinion. A lot of yall are holding yourself back by obsessing over getting taller when you could be obsessing over getting better. This ultimately is more valuable than being taller, and I believe it will eventually surge you past the sexual market value of tall men with hollow personalities.
Yes, its not fair that some people have height and are automatically appealing to women, while possessing none of the other qualities that short men need to develop in order to pull. But developing these other qualities is not only in your complete control, but they will make you a better person. Once you are confident in who you are and what you want, and have the accolades and credibility to back it up, thats when the in-person "energy" that women pick up and that influence how women see you really starts to develop. Its a momentum game at the end of the day and I hope this helps some of yall wake up, get better and pull like yall deserve to <3.
