How to obtain MSE without having measurements

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My orthodontist said I don’t need MSE, but my maxilla is not wide enough and I have a dark space when I smile. How can I get MSE without measurements
 
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yeah those faggots said the same thing and didnt even mesure my pallete :feelswah:
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My orthodontist said I don’t need MSE, but my maxilla is not wide enough and I have a dark space when I smile. How can I get MSE without measurements
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