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What are some ways you have tested your friendship, did the friend betray you afterwards?

I'm autistic and don't get social cues, I really don't know who I should or shouldn't trust. Please give some tips.
 
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I'll start;


1. "Accidentally" drop money around them/Lend them money

2. Leave your possessions around them, now this one's a bit risky. But literally leave your possessions/wallet etc. Around them.
(Only do this with old friends/items you wouldn't mind losing)

3. Don't test people you don't trust, obviously you wouldn't test this on your bully.
Test people you already trust and from there edit and modify people from your friend circle.


Please add if you have something. Also don't make it obvious to not hurt their feelings.
 
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I'll start;


1. "Accidentally" drop money around them/Lend them money
If the friend picks the money up /pays back and gives it to you that's a good friend, If not you know to let them go


2. Leave your possessions around them, now this one's a bit risky. But literally leave your possessions/wallet etc. Around them.
(Only do this with old friends/items you wouldn't mind losing)
If there's not the original amount of money that was in there/your possessions are gone then that friendship should be gone.
3. Don't test people you don't trust, obviously you wouldn't test this on your bully.
Test people you already trust and from there edit and modify people from your friend circle.
This one should be obvious, you don't go up to a stranger to test them lol because you dont trust strangers by default. Your friends on the other hand,
Please add if you have something. Also don't make it obvious to not hurt their feelings.
Let me add a 4th one, tell them a secret you wouldn't mind spreading. If it spreads, there you go.
 
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What are some ways you have tested your friendship, did the friend betray you afterwards?

I'm autistic and don't get social cues, I really don't know who I should or shouldn't trust. Please give some tips.
Let me put ut to you straight. You can't. You'll never be able to trust your friends. That doesn't mean they're maliciously pining for the perfect chance to stab you in the back. It's just means that when the chips are down you're gonna have to expect that you won't be able to rely on them. And they'll probably sell you out for the right prize. Have good times with friends, but just don't involve them in anything too serious in your life.
 
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people are animalistic, friendships like this dont come too often. wont sacrifice having friends for that though.
 
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What are some ways you have tested your friendship, did the friend betray you afterwards?

I'm autistic and don't get social cues, I really don't know who I should or shouldn't trust. Please give some tips.
You shouldn't set the bar too high for friendship. As long as they aren't someone who has fun at your expense then they should be a pretty good friend.
 
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Let me put ut to you straight. You can't. You'll never be able to trust your friends. That doesn't mean they're maliciously pining for the perfect chance to stab you in the back. It's just means that when the chips are down you're gonna have to expect that you won't be able to rely on them. And they'll probably sell you out for the right prize. Have good times with friends, but just don't involve them in anything too serious in your life.
James, you said you had adhd. How has this affected your life?

And what exactly do you mean by too serious, lately life's been a blur after I got death threats. To me everything seems serious, even them knowing my location by hanging out any given time.
 
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people are animalistic, friendships like this dont come too often. wont sacrifice having friends for that though.
What do you mean?
 
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The fact that they've tolerated by autist/schizo ass for a yr is enough of a test for me. Unfortunately, they ditched me afterwards. :ogre:
 
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You shouldn't set the bar too high for friendship. As long as they aren't someone who has fun at your expense then they should be a pretty good friend.
I think you are too trusting, if they're jealous for example they might have you robbed or killed. Jealous over a girl, jealous of your money etc.

So I think what i said in the thread is a good way to test your friendship even if it's temporary as you alluded.
 
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The fact that they've tolerated by autist/schizo ass for a yr is enough of a test for me. Unfortunately, they ditched me afterwards.
Can you elaborate, how can a friend just ditch you after a year?

I'm also autistic, so maybe I'm forgetting something. Tell me so I can remember the painful repressed memories.
 
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What do you mean?
i mean id rather be around people and just keep track of my possessions then have an unreal expectation about the nature of people, stealing shit and theivery lives in the genes of many people of all ethnicities, its like a primal urge to just steal
 
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Can you elaborate, how can a friend just ditch you after a year?

I'm also autistic, so maybe I'm forgetting something. Tell me so I can remember the painful repressed memories.
They ditched me after I had a sperg/schizo episode and lashed out at them and ghosted them for over a year and a half. I struggled with social cues all my life so hard to learn and memorize facial gestures in order to get what they're feeling cause I can't empathize nor relate with them like normies can. I tried contacting them after my disappearance and they told me to fuck off basically. One of them was also an aspie so it sucked losing him until I got over it eventually.
 
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i mean id rather be around people and just keep track of my possessions then have an unreal expectation about the nature of people, stealing shit and theivery lives in the genes of many people of all ethnicities, its like a primal urge to just steal
Stealing, raping, killing, it's in our genes and our ancestors indulged in those urges.

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Let me put ut to you straight. You can't. You'll never be able to trust your friends. That doesn't mean they're maliciously pining for the perfect chance to stab you in the back. It's just means that when the chips are down you're gonna have to expect that you won't be able to rely on them. And they'll probably sell you out for the right prize. Have good times with friends, but just don't involve them in anything too serious in your life.
Totally agreed, my friends I have are Nice people tbh, because this is what I surander myself, but of course I wont Relu myself on them in difficult situation because I know they will not compromise theyself. So I don't involved them in anything serious and they are a compliment of your life, like your girlfriend, not your focus.
 
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i mean id rather be around people and just keep track of my possessions then have an unreal expectation about the nature of people, stealing shit and theivery lives in the genes of many people of all ethnicities, its like a primal urge to just steal
You have a point, but would you be comfortable hanging out with thieves?
 
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James, you said you had adhd. How has this affected your life?

And what exactly do you mean by too serious, lately life's been a blur after I got death threats. To me everything seems serious, even them knowing my location by hanging out any given time.
I guess I just learned to live with it. I accept that when learning something new, tasks for a job or whatever, I'll piss people off by requiring a little more time to learn how to do it. I've learned how to communicate in a way that makes people more likely to stave off their frustration.
I think you are too trusting, if they're jealous for example they might have you robbed or killed. Jealous over a girl, jealous of your money etc.

So I think what i said in the thread is a good way to test your friendship even if it's temporary as you alluded.
What I meant about "too serious" is that you shouldn't give friends the chance to mess up your life or take advantage. You should avoid allowing them to be in any position to do so in the first place. You shouldn't let them know if you got wealth.
 
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They ditched me after I had a sperg/schizo episode and lashed out at them and ghosted them for over a year and a half. I struggled with social cues all my life so hard to learn and memorize facial gestures in order to get what they're feeling cause I can't empathize nor relate with them like normies can. I tried contacting them after my disappearance and they told me to fuck off basically. One of them was also an aspie so it sucked losing him until I got over it eventually.
You sound like me, I ditched my old friends for long because i took them not hanging out with me personally and now I can't get in contact with them again. It doesn't hurt me though, because I'm convinced i never had any friends to begin with. That they only had an illusion of me being their friend, when every day I would have trust issues and doubt our friendship because of how fragile it was.
 
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You sound like me, I ditched my old friends for long because i took them not hanging out with me personally and now I can't get in contact with them again. It doesn't hurt me though, because I'm convinced i never had any friends to begin with. That they only had an illusion of me being their friend, when every day I would have trust issues and doubt our friendship because of how fragile it was.
True, I used to take light-hearted jokes like insults personally and would sperg out on them until I learned that's how some normies communicated with each other in a friendly way. I've been bullied before by cousins so it was hard to distinguish between friendly banter and outright bullying. I was also insecure that they were mocking me for being on the autistic spectrum (the ones that knew). I realized they weren't real friends after cutting contact with them or being ghosted by them. I realize now that I'll never have true friends as an autist/schizo, but I think normies struggle with real friendships as well. Those with real friends should consider themselves lucky cause it might not last forever. I learned to become detached and not get offended as easily which has led to me ghosting people for not tolerating their shit or just simply not caring for them which they take as being cold so they ditch me as well because of that.
 
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I guess I just learned to live with it. I accept that when learning something new, tasks for a job or whatever, I'll piss people off by requiring a little more time to learn how to do it. I've learned how to communicate in a way that makes people more likely to stave off their frustration.

What I meant about "too serious" is that you shouldn't give friends the chance to mess up your life or take advantage. You should avoid allowing them to be in any position to do so in the first place. You shouldn't let them know if you got wealth.
Interesting, it seems like you're telling me to live a double life. Do you really wanna live a double life?
 
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Interesting, it seems like you're telling me to live a double life. Do you really wanna live a double life?
No, you just shouldn't tell everybody everything. Unless yiu're unmistakably wealthy.
 
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I think most friends will fuck you over at some point,my sisters best friend fucked her baby daddy. Then they eventually made up. The girl died over a heroin dose and my sister still misses her. Her baby dad died too in a car wreck.

My grandpa used to say the guys I used to hang with aren't my true friends and won't be around later in life. I thought yeah right back then. But it was completely true.
 
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True, I used to take light-hearted jokes like insults personally and would sperg out on them until I learned that's how some normies communicated with each other in a friendly way. I've been bullied before by cousins so it was hard to distinguish between friendly banter and outright bullying. I was also insecure that they were mocking me for being on the autistic spectrum (the ones that knew). I realized they weren't real friends after cutting contact with them or being ghosted by them. I realize now that I'll never have true friends as an autist/schizo, but I think normies struggle with real friendships as well. Those with real friends should consider themselves lucky cause it might not last forever.
I had good friends, they never insulted me for things I was sensitive about. I don't remember ever being insulted for my looks either, except by jealous people . I really appreciate my friends, because they didn't make fun of me and I didn't make fun of them.

You're right for not taking those insults, some people aren't meant to be friends with each other, give yourself a pat on the back and don't blame yourself.


Also how did you realize they weren't real friends after cutting contact with them or being ghosted by them, that doesn't make sense unless they stopped reaching out to you or something. Pls elaborate.
I learned to become detached and not get offended as easily which has led to me ghosting people for not tolerating their shit
Good, stay cold.
or just simply not caring for them which they take as being cold so they ditch me as well because of that.
Elaborate, and yes I've done the same due to trust issues.
 
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No, you just shouldn't tell everybody everything. Unless yiu're unmistakably wealthy.
I really appreciate you giving wisdom here, since you're older and all. May Allah guide you to the truth, there is no God but him. Aameen
 
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I think most friends will fuck you over at some point,my sisters best friend fucked her baby daddy. Then they eventually made up. The girl died over a heroin dose and my sister still misses her. Her baby dad died too in a car wreck.

My grandpa used to say the guys I used to hang with aren't my true friends and won't be around later in life. I thought yeah right back then. But it was completely true.
No one cares about you, everyone cares about themselves. It's a cold world, and you gotta be colder to survive.
 
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You have a point, but would you be comfortable hanging out with thieves?
you can practice skills of wit and charisma with these types of people, bud your character by learning how to interact with different types of people.
 
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you can practice skills of wit and charisma with these types of people, bud your character by learning how to interact with different types of people.
There's no need, you're basically a lamb to the slaughter. These people will sell you for a penny, money is their end goal.
 
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I had good friends, they never insulted me for things I was sensitive about. I don't remember ever being insulted for my looks either, except by jealous people . I really appreciate my friends, because they didn't make fun of me and I didn't make fun of them.

You're right for not taking those insults, some people aren't meant to be friends with each other, give yourself a pat on the back and don't blame yourself.
They would constantly call me a spastic and when I would tell them I didn't like that they would call me a "sensitive bitch".
Also how did you realize they weren't real friends after cutting contact with them or being ghosted by them, that doesn't make sense unless they stopped reaching out to you or something. Pls elaborate.
I just realized that if they were willing to ditch me like that after knowing me for over a yr then they weren't good friends to begin with. They stopped reaching out to me and would give excuses on not being able to meet up with me until they just stopped responding to my messages altogether.
Good, stay cold.

Elaborate, and yes I've done the same due to trust issues.
I stopped trusting people and they noticed that I wasn't as open about my life as others were so they called me out on being cold or distant. I told them I've been hurt by people before, but they still got angry over it so I told them I didn't have an obligation to tell them about my life if I didn't want to and they should understand why. They eventually stopped inviting me to hangouts and slowly distanced themselves from me until they completely abandoned me.
 
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play among us with them and if they imposter than eject them from space ship


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They would constantly call me a spastic and when I would tell them I didn't like that they would call me a "sensitive bitch".
They're not your friends then, doesn't make sense that your friends should bully you.

Also didn't you say one of them was a sperg too, did they make fun of him too or only you?
I just realized that if they were willing to ditch me like that after knowing me for over a yr then they weren't good friends to begin with. They stopped reaching out to me and would give excuses on not being able to meet up with me until they just stopped responding to my messages altogether.
I'm like them, I have attachment issues. So I'd rather not be attached in the first place, so that turned into detachment issues. And don't believe people when they give excuses not to hang out, most people always have time. Always.
I stopped trusting people and they noticed that I wasn't as open about my life as others were so they called me out on being cold or distant. I told them I've been hurt by people before, but they still got angry over it so I told them I didn't have an obligation to tell them about my life if I didn't want to and they should understand why. They eventually stopped inviting me to hangouts and slowly distanced themselves from me until they completely abandoned me.
Let me tell you from their perspective, if you were someone who was open about your life all the time and bubbly and cheerful and who was their friend and you trusted them,
And all of a sudden one day you turn the switch and no longer trust them and you tell them you don't trust them, that will hurt their feelings because friendship is built on trust, they basically feel like you're telling them " I don't trust you, get out of my life". And rejection hurts alot. I had a friend on discord like this, at first he was open about his troubles then he started closing up and now our friendship is dying because I don't know if he even wants to stay friends with me it feels like he hates me because he's acting different, and i have feelings too.
 
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They're not your friends then, doesn't make sense that your friends should bully you.

Also didn't you say one of them was a sperg too, did they make fun of him too or only you?
My other sperg friend was 6ft tall and 185lbs at 13% BF so they didn't mess with him lol.
I'm like them, I have attachment issues. So I'd rather not be attached in the first place, so that turned into detachment issues. And don't believe people when they give excuses not to hang out, most people always have time. Always.
Legit. It's like when foids give excuses as to why they didn't answer your text message because they had no time and it's obvious they have time to respond to a 10sec text message.
Let me tell you from their perspective, if you were someone who was open about your life all the time and bubbly and cheerful and who was their friend and you trusted them,
And all of a sudden one day you turn the switch and no longer trust them and you tell them you don't trust them, that will hurt their feelings because friendship is built on trust, they basically feel like you're telling them " I don't trust you, get out of my life". And rejection hurts alot. I had a friend on discord like this, at first he was open about his troubles then he started closing up and now our friendship is dying because I don't know if he even wants to stay friends with me it feels like he hates me because he's acting different, and i have feelings too.
I agree and I think that's what ended up hurting my first few friends because I used to be open to people until they hurt me and I closed off slowly til I stopped caring about others. I've also been on the other end of the coin where someone who was once open to me is closing off and Idk if it's because of something I did or because they're going thru shit themselves. I wish they'd tell me at least so I could improve my behavior, but maybe they want to avoid drama or don't trust me enough to tell me.
 
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My other sperg friend was 6ft tall and 185lbs at 13% BF so they didn't mess with him lol.
but were we're good friends with him? I I a good test on whether you should trust them or not is how they treat spergs.
Legit. It's like when foids give excuses as to why they didn't answer your text message because they had no time and it's obvious they have time to respond to a 10sec text message.

I agree and I think that's what ended up hurting my first few friends because I used to be open to people until they hurt me and I closed off slowly til I stopped caring about others. I've also been on the other end of the coin where someone who was once open to me is closing off and Idk if it's because of something I did or because they're going thru shit themselves. I wish they'd tell me at least so I could improve my behavior, but maybe they want to avoid drama or don't trust me enough to tell me.
 
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but were we're good friends with him? I I a good test on whether you should trust them or not is how they treat spergs.
Yeah, he was the closest I could call someone a friend, but his half-normie friends didn't like me so we could never hang together in groups. Eventually, he was persuaded by them to leave me after I told him I'd be gone for a while and not to wait for me to return. I did that cause I was going thru another schizo episode and needed time alone. When I contacted him he told me to fuck off and when I asked his friends what happened they ignored me (I knew they received my message cause I messaged them thru a different number and they asked who I was and when I told them it was me, they stopped responding.
 
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Yeah, he was the closest I could call someone a friend, but his half-normie friends didn't like me so we could never hang together in groups. Eventually, he was persuaded by them to leave me after I told him I'd be gone for a while and not to wait for me to return. I did that cause I was going thru another schizo episode and needed time alone. When I contacted him he told me to fuck off and when I asked his friends what happened they ignored me (I knew they received my message cause I messaged them thru a different number and they asked who I was and when I told them it was me, they stopped responding.
no I meant were they close with him

and i dont get it, i thought you had the same friend circle, what do you mean HIS half normie friends?
 
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no I meant were they close with him

and i dont get it, i thought you had the same friend circle, what do you mean HIS half normie friends?
They were closer to him than to me. He hung out with people outside of our social circle (non-NT) who were half-Normies who hated me for my incel posts Online that he stupidly showed them.
 
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Cringy quote but it's legit, the best way to know if you can trust someone is to trust them
 
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They were closer to him than to me.
is there a reason apart from your schizophrenia?
He hung out with people outside of our social circle (non-NT) who were half-Normies who hated me for my incel posts Online that he stupidly showed them.
i think you couldve been friends with them regardless, your schizophrenia just makes them dislike you. there are alot of controversial people who are still liked for their personality, are you saying you never had a chance to be friends with them just because they were outside of your social circle?
 
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Cringy quote but it's legit, the best way to know if you can trust someone is to trust them
it was said by mike tyson. go fuck yourself.

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is there a reason apart from your schizophrenia?

i think you couldve been friends with them regardless, your schizophrenia just makes them dislike you. there are alot of controversial people who are still liked for their personality, are you saying you never had a chance to be friends with them just because they were outside of your social circle?
My aspie friend tried inviting me to their social circle, but they refused cause of my black pill rhetoric. One of his half-normies friends become an acquaintance of mine and hung out with us a few times a year, but we never became friends like I did with my aspie friend.
 
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It said by Hemingway, you fucking stupid ass retard
he said it in an interview you utter dumb ass hoe, other people have said it too you fucking retard, fucking utter deep malfunctioning retard, unhealthy sped retard.

literal bottlefed incel specimen.

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My aspie friend tried inviting me to their social circle, but they refused cause of my black pill rhetoric. One of his half-normies friends become an acquaintance of mine and hung out with us a few times a year, but we never became friends like I did with my aspie friend.
if youre gonna keep talking about the blackpill, then thats just absurd. dont expect to make friends.

is there any other reason they refused?
 
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if youre gonna keep talking about the blackpill, then thats just absurd. dont expect to make friends.

is there any other reason they refused?
Prolly cause I have autism and schizophrenia and they knew we wouldn't have much in common. My aspie friend didn't want to tell me more so Idk what he told them exactly.
 
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Prolly cause I have autism and schizophrenia and they knew we wouldn't have much in common. My aspie friend didn't want to tell me more so Idk what he told them exactly.
that's strange. but dont ever think that they rejected you due to the incel stuff, but because of your schizophrenia/something else
 
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that's strange. but dont ever think that they rejected you due to the incel stuff, but because of your schizophrenia/something else
I guess, but they were half-normies so they hung out with normies that wouldn't like that shit. I also had this other friend that lived far away, but we saw each other a few times a year and watched gore videos together. :feelskek: I ended up ghosting him cause he was contacting my other aspie friend and I suspected they were talking shit about me. This guy also wanted me and my other aspie friend to kidnap this chick in Mexico so we could escape inceldom together. I refused and he got mad.
 
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don't need to test, just assume they're a backstabber, then plan your actions around that eventuality. ie don't let him borrow anything you don't want to lose forever.
 

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