I am start to think improving yourself on online dating does not work

[mgtowmadness]

I'd like to pose a question to the members of this form because I'm having a little trouble with my predicament... I was told on this form that I had to get better pics a must I had to do this... I think I am actually getting in some ways worse results how is this possible ?.. either I way overestimated my looks which I think maybe is a little possibility but I'm going to post both pics before and after so you could see... besides that I'm using right now is I type this are bumble.. Plenty of Fish... and Tinder... I was even and deluded enough to pay an extra $15 for Bumble spotlight which did absolutely nothing... if you are looksmaxing is legit then why am I seeing these type of results?..I am Male 43

First tow pics before ..Next two after

 

[mgtowmadness]

Funny no replies..Maybe all this is for nothing..I got better results with my cheap phone pics..Can any of you have a reason why?..I also got better results on photofeller..You all talk about copes..but I am starting to think this is bullshit

 

[Deleted member 10652]

 

[RODEBLUR]

because you are such a hunk they think professional pics are suspect and that someone stole a hollywood celebrity's pictures obviously

 

[mgtowmadness]

because you are such a hunk they think professional pics are suspect and that someone stole a hollywood celebrity's pictures obviously

I can't make out if this is horrible Sarcasm or you are saying I am a sub 5 Man?

 

[RODEBLUR]

I can't make out if this is horrible Sarcasm or you are saying I am a sub 5 Man?

What is your end goal in all this

 

[mgtowmadness]

What is your end goal in all this

To get some dates..I can't even barley get likes or responses..Why do this if my results have gotton worse with pro pics?

 

[Wallenberg]

What do you think is your rank?

 

[mgtowmadness]

What is your end goal in all this

You can answer my question ..Am I ugly or hamdsome?...I am a growm Man shoot

 

[RODEBLUR]

To get some dates..I can't even barley get likes or responses..Why do this if my results have gotton worse with pro pics?

What do you want to do with your dates if we were to say things went well

 

[mgtowmadness]

What do you think is your rank?

I asked this fourm..If what you said is true..I should be seeing better results..I believe I am a Solid 7 on the graph you provided

 

[Wallenberg]

I asked this fourm..If what you said is true..I should be seeing better results..I believe I am a Solid 7 on the graph you provided

I think you are 5 or 6.

 

[mgtowmadness]

What do you want to do with your dates if we were to say things went well

You can answer the question or just not get involved in the thread

 

[mgtowmadness]

I think you are 5 or 6.

Look at that 7 on you're graph..You think that guy is better looking than me?

 

[Wallenberg]

Look at that 7 on you're graph..You think that guy is better looking than me?

Yes.

 

[RODEBLUR]

You can answer the question or just not get involved in the thread

I'm only asking because at 25 i already knew i was a Genetic outcast .. I knew that THings would never go well for me and that the window to find my significant other has passed, and each day it would only get worse and become a smaller dating pool for me.

Time goes by too fast and you sleep one day and you'll miss years.. You only later realize how precious they were after they're gone

The only romantic activity you could get so late are one night stands, and you need looks for that, the bar is set higher than for a relationship. Looks that i Didn't have, and never will have. I'm 41 now and i have accepted that my presence in this world is only to observe and fade away as an insignificant being . I will have to entertain myself Virtually and socialize through the screen

I've gone off topic.. To answer your question... Don't ask me if you're ugly or handsome.. Ask yourself. How much would your dating life improve if your looks were better? The severity of the difference should give you a hint.. I'm out

 

[mgtowmadness]

I'm only asking because at 25 i already knew i was a Genetic outcast .. I knew that THings would never go well for me and that the window to find my significant other has passed, and each day it would only get worse and become a smaller dating pool for me.

Time goes by too fast and you sleep one day and you'll miss years.. You only later realize how precious they were after they're gone

The only romantic activity you could get so late are one night stands, and you need looks for that, the bar is set higher than for a relationship. Looks that i Didn't have, and never will have. I'm 41 now and i have accepted that my presence in this world is only to observe and fade away as an insignificant being . I will have to entertain myself Virtually and socialize through the screen

I've gone off topic.. To answer your question... Don't ask me if you're ugly or handsome.. Ask yourself. How much would your dating life improve if your looks were better? The severity of the difference should give you a hint.. I'm out

Sorry..I thought you were just trying to be a wise ass..I am looking at the graph and I just and having a hard time beleving I am a 6 on that chart

 

[RODEBLUR]

Sorry..I thought you were just trying to be a wise ass..I am looking at the graph and I just and having a hard time beleving I am a 6 on that chart

It's a low quality one.. There are better ones

There should be multiples guys in a range instead of 1 only

 

[mgtowmadness]

I undertstand age is a issue..I still should be getting better results with my age bracket..It went down with pro pics..Nobody has a answer for that on this fourm..

 

[RODEBLUR]

I undetstand age is a issue..I still should be getting better results with my age bracket..It went down with pro pics..Nobody has a answer for that on this fourm

Older women are more drawn to younger guys and that's something they can do nowadays due to the amount of young men struggling to find a girl themselves... So why should they go to people their own age if they can go younger?

Bigger chance that a young girl would like an old guy like George Clooney than an older woman liking a guy her same age she's never met before

 

[mgtowmadness]

Older women are more drawn to younger guys and that's something they can do nowadays due to the amount of young men struggling to find a girl themselves... So why should they go to people their own age if they can go younger?

Bigger chance that a young girl would like an old guy like George Clooney than an older woman liking a guy her same age she's never met before

I think this is it..With online dating a woman 40 now can Grab a young ripped stud online..So even if I get ripped.. do to online and Hypergamy..I can't win...I think this is the issue..I love the red pill cope artist that say Men age like fine wine..I would love to see their Tinder and Bumble accounts

 

[mgtowmadness]

I think I will just stick with good amounts of cardio...Do to online apps does not matter for Men my age

 

[RODEBLUR]

I think this is it..With online dating a woman 40 now can Grab a young ripped stud online..So even if I get ripped.. do to online and Hypergamy..I can't win...I think this is the issue..I love the red pill cope artist that say Men age like fine wine..I would love to see their Tinder and Bumble accounts

Say you were to age like fine wine she hears your age and she's out... Unless you have something to compensate... Older guys that aren't betrothed and are still living this on-the-go lifestyle are usually guys with status.. Big company names or hollywood actors... So much so that it's become an expectation... If a young girl were to bring an older man home everyone's thought would be if he had money or not. People wouldn't see any point in it and think of it as a strange relationship if they didn't. So it's guaranteed you will get strange looks wherever you go..

As for older women.. They are encouraged by their circle to go for younger guys .. They will and they can...

It's a really messy situation to be in... Men this age without anyone have failed nature... As kids we're supposed to gravitate to our sweetheart until we begin to develop and eventually reproduce, start a family, continue the cycle.

When this goes wrong, you have malfunctioned as an individual and you're just stuck in this period of having to come to terms with your position in society. This void. This kind of, interim period of after being a kid just going about life too busy not doing anything or getting anything done letting the days fly by and before being elderly and counting the days until it all ends... It's extremely morbid but such is life. I still haven't found the meaning to it, or at least, mine in particular. I guess i'm just a placeholder human put in place so attractive people can exist, because if we all looked the same and had the same life circumstances, nobody would be good looking or rich/live a good life. I don't know.

 

[entropy137]

I think I will just stick with good amounts of cardio...Do to online apps does not matter for Men my age

Cardio and muscle gains for lateral delts. You can't make your lateral delts too big as far as attraction goes. If you're very out going and social, you'll get better results talking to women irl. Good luck.

 

[eduardkoopman]

With your age, and looks level.
You can probably only get online: older women, fatties, etc.. probably women's you find unattractive.

If you want better quality looks women.
In real life meeting them, moggs.

 

[Wallenberg]

1. SEA.
2. MGTOW/MSTOW.

 

[mgtowmadness]

1. SEA.
2. MGTOW/MSTOW.

I still like the philosophy..but I guess I am tecnically Imcelmadness now

 

[mgtowmadness]

With your age, and looks level.
You can probably only get online: older women, fatties, etc.. probably women's you find unattractive.

If you want better quality looks women.
In real life meeting them, moggs.

I agree but bars with masks?..no thanks..plus I don't drink or smoke..I guess their is supermarkets..but that seems a little odd at my age

 

[mgtowmadness]

Looksmaxing may not even work for younger guys..Now with Tinder and all the apps you are competing with natural chads

 

[NormieKilla]

I think you look good for your age. But you still have to looksmax as much as you can bro. You have excellent teeth but maybe you should get a rhinoplasty and why not a treatment for your dark circles.

 

[eduardkoopman]

I agree but bars with masks?..no thanks..plus I don't drink or smoke..I guess their is supermarkets..but that seems a little odd at my age

damn, do I have to spell out "in real life" meeting them, being moer than bars and supermarkets.

examples list of irl:
* fair;
* event;
* out and about;
* when hanging at the beach;
* waiting at the bus stop;
* Yoga class;
* sports club;
* book club;
* cooking hobby club;
* friends party;
* party;
* open food market;
* casino chilling;
* when grabbig a coffee in coffe place making som small talk.
* when chilling in the park
* etc....

The list is endless.
in real life, means for me ANYWHERE, when it's reasonable okay to talk with a random.

For this. A dude nees to put on his social hat. And be communicative type.

Looksmaxing may not even work for younger guys..Now with Tinder and all the apps you are competing with natural chads

check the looks difference, this guy got through Tinder and "in real life" as the starting place

https://looksmax.org/threads/my-1-year-looksmaxxing-results-no-pics.295647/

 

[antiantifa]

With your age, and looks level.
You can probably only get online: older women, fatties, etc.. probably women's you find unattractive.

If you want better quality looks women.
In real life meeting them, moggs.

stop giving him attention, it's like his 4th thread already, I said the same shit.

@mgtowmadness

you're mentally ill

 

[eduardkoopman]

stop giving him attention, it's like his 4th thread already, I said the same shit.

Cool, that you said the same stuff.

I dislike, how OP dismisses meeting women "in real life". And putts all eggs into online.
Maybe OP, afraid, or not good at being social, in real life. I'm not great at it either, but nor bad at it also. Average socially I guess.

Online, is good place, heaven for Chads and maybe also chadlites.
But OP is neither of these 2. So than online sucks.
So better focus on irl; meeting women. Putting on, ones social hat, putting in efforts into entering and creating soical circles and going to places where being social is okay or wanted. Because OP, does meet the looks levels of nromie or better; so than irl miggs; I think.

 

[sorrowfulsad]

I could see you lie with your age and attract 25+ year old women

 

[klamus]

You easily look better than 80-90% of people your age. At least would in Finland

 

[Deleted member 6403]

Cause ur ugly bro, bad collagen, hair and body

 

[AlphaDude]

You look like discount Tom Ellis. Try to imitate his style. The First 2 pics are way better, long hair doesn't suit you. The problems with the first 2 are: you are smiling like a faggot, close your mouth as you did on the last 2 pics.
2. Don't try to take model-like photos, just tell friends to shoot you doing some fun hobby, get some nice clothes and maybe take a pic with a dog or a cat to look more friendly. Also from what I can see, you are wearing some shit jeans, get something tighter, and put on a watch or a bracelet or two.

 

[RAITEIII]

I'd like to pose a question to the members of this form because I'm having a little trouble with my predicament... I was told on this form that I had to get better pics a must I had to do this... I think I am actually getting in some ways worse results how is this possible ?.. either I way overestimated my looks which I think maybe is a little possibility but I'm going to post both pics before and after so you could see... besides that I'm using right now is I type this are bumble.. Plenty of Fish... and Tinder... I was even and deluded enough to pay an extra $15 for Bumble spotlight which did absolutely nothing... if you are looksmaxing is legit then why am I seeing these type of results?..I am Male 43

First tow pics before ..Next two after

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Stop smiling like that people gonna run away

 

[Deleted member 8832]

You look good but just not good enough for online dating and on top of that an oldcel so suffice to say you won't get any matches. I really hope you are moneymaxxed because at this age if you are single then your best shot is escortceling, the only type of women you'll be getting are 30 something rosaties who are no different than hookers tbf ngl

 

[Slayercel]

Say you were to age like fine wine she hears your age and she's out... Unless you have something to compensate... Older guys that aren't betrothed and are still living this on-the-go lifestyle are usually guys with status.. Big company names or hollywood actors... So much so that it's become an expectation... If a young girl were to bring an older man home everyone's thought would be if he had money or not. People wouldn't see any point in it and think of it as a strange relationship if they didn't. So it's guaranteed you will get strange looks wherever you go..

As for older women.. They are encouraged by their circle to go for younger guys .. They will and they can...

It's a really messy situation to be in... Men this age without anyone have failed nature... As kids we're supposed to gravitate to our sweetheart until we begin to develop and eventually reproduce, start a family, continue the cycle.

When this goes wrong, you have malfunctioned as an individual and you're just stuck in this period of having to come to terms with your position in society. This void. This kind of, interim period of after being a kid just going about life too busy not doing anything or getting anything done letting the days fly by and before being elderly and counting the days until it all ends... It's extremely morbid but such is life. I still haven't found the meaning to it, or at least, mine in particular. I guess i'm just a placeholder human put in place so attractive people can exist, because if we all looked the same and had the same life circumstances, nobody would be good looking or rich/live a good life. I don't know.

You should ignore older women and go for 20-30 if you look somewhat decent. I completely understand the struggle, and I'm feeling the same at 33, even though I was married and had plenty of experiences. Our time is very limited.

What you can do as an oldcel:

-Looksmax and lie about your age on Tinder (ignore every other dating platform tbh). Nobody can tell if a guy is 39 or 43, especially if he has a decent body and plenty of collagen.
-Get lucky. I'm talking to this 23 yo 8/10 blonde I've matched with on Tinder, and she would've preferred if I was older, 40-55 she said. Not for money, but pure preference.
-Meet women IRL, where you have a real chance if you're not really gl
-Make getting rich (or somewhat rich) a priority in your life, and betabux the right girl. Think about it, even celebrities and those stupidly rich football players are betabuxxing at the end of the day, that's the only way they can date/marry models. One of my exes used to date a 60 yo millionaire and was truly in love with him because he gave her the life she always dreamt of, so this could be a good option if everything else fails.

 

[RODEBLUR]

You should ignore older women and go for 20-30 if you look somewhat decent. I completely understand the struggle, and I'm feeling the same at 33, even though I was married and had plenty of experiences. Our time is very limited.

What you can do as an oldcel:

-Looksmax and lie about your age on Tinder (ignore every other dating platform tbh). Nobody can tell if a guy is 39 or 43, especially if he has a decent body and plenty of collagen.
-Get lucky. I'm talking to this 23 yo 8/10 blonde I've matched with on Tinder, and she would've preferred if I was older, 40-55 she said. Not for money, but pure preference.
-Meet women IRL, where you have a real chance if you're not really gl
-Make getting rich (or somewhat rich) a priority in your life, and betabux the right girl. Think about it, even celebrities and those stupidly rich football players are betabuxxing at the end of the day, that's the only way they can date/marry models. One of my exes used to date a 60 yo millionaire and was truly in love with him because he gave her the life she always dreamt of, so this could be a good option if everything else fails.

well good thing i live off checks the government gives me. status and moneymaxxed to infinity

 

[.👽.]

I'd like to pose a question to the members of this form because I'm having a little trouble with my predicament... I was told on this form that I had to get better pics a must I had to do this... I think I am actually getting in some ways worse results how is this possible ?.. either I way overestimated my looks which I think maybe is a little possibility but I'm going to post both pics before and after so you could see... besides that I'm using right now is I type this are bumble.. Plenty of Fish... and Tinder... I was even and deluded enough to pay an extra $15 for Bumble spotlight which did absolutely nothing... if you are looksmaxing is legit then why am I seeing these type of results?..I am Male 43

First tow pics before ..Next two after

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Nigga your pics are shit. And dont smile like a freak. And dont take a fking selfie in your bed god damn.

You are above average for your age. Do better pics