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Everyone claims to have a friend who is short and gets laid, well that's me.

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EDIT- I wish I was a wide as how I look with these stretched photos

Except, I also have very narrow shoulders, small ribcage, short arms and legs, which make me look even smaller and weaker. In my untrained state, I get framemogged by guys that are 5'6.

I am also not athletic, (but I do work out a little) , I have less than 1000 followers on instagram. I am not rich. I do not have a deep voice.

Regardless of these facts, I banged the hottest and most girls out of anyone in my class at highschool. I had banged 100 girls before my 21st birthday, 8 girls in my first 2 weeks of university, and slayed the most of anyone at my college. I know this because all of the top slayers were friends with me. Even though Ive been in a relationship for the past 3 years, young hotties will regularly offer me sex when I am at parties, in town etc. They act all seductive with me, show off they body and hold eye contact with me, They say things like, "I know you said you have a girlfriend, but I promise I'll keep it a secret" or "Dont talk to me like that, or you'll me fall in love with you"

The girls I have been with have all been hotties, 90% of them around 8-9 in looks. Many of them are runway models, fitness models, bikini models, (2 have been in Dan Bilzarian's insta photos) pageant girls, Sugar babies, strippers (which are some of the most down to earth and loyal) and a handful of them are now married to multi-millionaires.

I have always, and will always get attention, attraction, flirting, and sex from women without much effort.


HOW is this possible?​


To put it in the terms used in this forum, I am stylemaxxed, (I grew up in a family that is very fashion consious, in a country that is not very fashionable)

I also have what I believe to be a seductive personality.

It is my belief that women are turned on by what they HEAR, much more than what they SEE

I also think a quick look around shows us that the looks threshold for men is very LOW. Once you pass that, the rest is your vibe and sub-communication, eye contact, emotional state, and conversational frame.

Lifefuel​

To get a girl to be OPEN to sleeping with you, you only need 1 THING to make her look, or catch her eye. This can be:
  • The typical stuff discussed here like a good face, tall height, athletic frame, muscular body, or status or fame
  • It can also be easy stuff like a cool beard or interesting tattoos, great style, good taste in jewellery, a great haircut
  • I can go on and on about other stuff if you guys want, but in short, there is 1 thing for anyone, regardless of your genetics.
If you have the basics covered, and you have the 1 THING that gets her attention, the rest of the work is done by YOUR PERSONALITY and ability to get her turned on and close the deal.

I'm telling you, Ive seen so many tall, handsome chads get the eye roll and lose attraction when they act overly cocky, uncalibrated, abrasive etc.


LOOKS THEORY IS COPE

I think a lot of people in this community like to fantasize that if they were good looking or tall, they could just roll around banging staceys all day without the risk of rejection or without having to work on their personality. This is fantasy. Chad might get laid 1/20 times by some insecure girl, looking to validate her own attractiveness if he does not have the social abilities to convert his good looks first impression into a more real attraction.

I'm open to any disagreements or questions, I can also supply proof over DM.
 
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Hahaha the cope is strong. Nope, never been with an escort. Why you so sceptical?

Yall should be stoked that you dont need 6ft4, wide frame and robust face to get prime 18-22 year old staceys. Isn't that better than the genetic pre-determinism that you believe?
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Gift me your secrets bro, I’m 6’1 rtt htn nt fashion but can never get laid with ease

only really just get lucky pill has helped me when the foid literally straight up told me she wanted to fuck

how do I do this brah :p
 
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Will this work with cute 16 year olds tho? Girls above 18 imo have already hit the wall.
Hahahaha, Im not really sure about that one. I would have no idea where to meet 16 year olds. Maybe sponsor a Junior voleyball team and attend the games with a bunch of NT, well dressed guys. You could possibly get one of their numbers and invite them to a cool party? Really running the risk of getting in trouble with the law. Definitely something I wouldn't recomment trying
 
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Hahaha the cope is strong. Nope, never been with an escort. Why you so sceptical?

Yall should be stoked that you dont need 6ft4, wide frame and robust face to get prime 18-22 year old staceys. Isn't that better than the genetic pre-determinism that you believe?
we are sceptical because we indeed have 6ft4 guys here who look good but have slayed 1-5 girls only.

and you claim u living the chad life without being chad:hnghn:
 
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Gift me your secrets bro, I’m 6’1 rtt htn nt fashion but can never get laid with ease

only really just get lucky pill has helped me when the foid literally straight up told me she wanted to fuck

how do I do this brah :p
PM me with any specific questions. I dont really know where youre fucking up
 
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Good thread. In terms of PSL I’m totally average yet I have a different girl in my bed every weekend. The female gaze is something that’s rarely spoken about here. Your hands, the way you smell, the way you talk, the way you hold eye contact. Being flirty while not creepy, sensual but not sexual, it’s a delicate balance and something that takes practice to master. Looks are incredibly important (I’m lucky to be lightskined which girls like apparently), but it’s such a small part of the equation.
What's your height, weight, race??
 

Background​

Everyone claims to have a friend who is short and gets laid, well that's me.

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EDIT- I wish I was a wide as how I look with these stretched photos

Except, I also have very narrow shoulders, small ribcage, short arms and legs, which make me look even smaller and weaker. In my untrained state, I get framemogged by guys that are 5'6.

I am also not athletic, (but I do work out a little) , I have less than 1000 followers on instagram. I am not rich. I do not have a deep voice.

Regardless of these facts, I banged the hottest and most girls out of anyone in my class at highschool. I had banged 100 girls before my 21st birthday, 8 girls in my first 2 weeks of university, and slayed the most of anyone at my college. I know this because all of the top slayers were friends with me. Even though Ive been in a relationship for the past 3 years, young hotties will regularly offer me sex when I am at parties, in town etc. They act all seductive with me, show off they body and hold eye contact with me, They say things like, "I know you said you have a girlfriend, but I promise I'll keep it a secret" or "Dont talk to me like that, or you'll me fall in love with you"

The girls I have been with have all been hotties, 90% of them around 8-9 in looks. Many of them are runway models, fitness models, bikini models, (2 have been in Dan Bilzarian's insta photos) pageant girls, Sugar babies, strippers (which are some of the most down to earth and loyal) and a handful of them are now married to multi-millionaires.

I have always, and will always get attention, attraction, flirting, and sex from women without much effort.


HOW is this possible?​


To put it in the terms used in this forum, I am stylemaxxed, (I grew up in a family that is very fashion consious, in a country that is not very fashionable)

I also have what I believe to be a seductive personality.

It is my belief that women are turned on by what they HEAR, much more than what they SEE

I also think a quick look around shows us that the looks threshold for men is very LOW. Once you pass that, the rest is your vibe and sub-communication, eye contact, emotional state, and conversational frame.

Lifefuel​

To get a girl to be OPEN to sleeping with you, you only need 1 THING to make her look, or catch her eye. This can be:
  • The typical stuff discussed here like a good face, tall height, athletic frame, muscular body, or status or fame
  • It can also be easy stuff like a cool beard or interesting tattoos, great style, good taste in jewellery, a great haircut
  • I can go on and on about other stuff if you guys want, but in short, there is 1 thing for anyone, regardless of your genetics.
If you have the basics covered, and you have the 1 THING that gets her attention, the rest of the work is done by YOUR PERSONALITY and ability to get her turned on and close the deal.

I'm telling you, Ive seen so many tall, handsome chads get the eye roll and lose attraction when they act overly cocky, uncalibrated, abrasive etc.


LOOKS THEORY IS COPE

I think a lot of people in this community like to fantasize that if they were good looking or tall, they could just roll around banging staceys all day without the risk of rejection or without having to work on their personality. This is fantasy. Chad might get laid 1/20 times by some insecure girl, looking to validate her own attractiveness if he does not have the social abilities to convert his good looks first impression into a more real attraction.

I'm open to any disagreements or questions, I can also supply proof over DM.
Don't the future All Blacks slay all th foids in NZ?
 
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Other questions:

1 - Have you ever fucked girls who are taller than you outside high school or college?
2 - Do you think your "stylemaxxing" makes girls believe you're richer than what you actually are?
3 - Do you fragrancemaxx, that is mixing perfumes with arousing pheromones?
4 - What are your exact penis measurements? You said you were above average but you could be thinking that average is 5 inches
5 - How is your game? What tactics and lines were effective for you?

From what I can see your looks are average. You're white, slightly above average height for your country, your frame might be narrow but as long as it's a v-taper people don't really mind and the only issues with your face are a high forehead, which can be frauded by fringemaxxing, and nasolabial folds. Also you appear to have a v-cut, which is a great halo in shirtless situations.
 
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we are sceptical because we indeed have 6ft4 guys here who look good but have slayed 1-5 girls only.

and you claim u living the chad life without being chad:hnghn:
Look at all the butt ugly rappers and swagboiis, most probably got laid a ton before the fame. I think these guys that youre talking about either never had sisters, or were scared of girls as a kid. Its just lack of exposure and experience in IMO. You gotta leave the house to meet thotties ususally.
 
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Look at all the butt ugly rappers and swagboiis, most probably got laid a ton before the fame. I think these guys that youre talking about either never had sisters, or were scared of girls as a kid. Its just lack of exposure and experience in IMO. You gotta leave the house to meet thotties ususally.
yea but its easier said than done cuz normies dont have slayer friends or friends who own clubs etc like you. but agree on exposure and experience
 
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No Vitoria's secret models, but yes. to the Dan Bilzarian girls. I have one friend who dates a girl that was a vitoria's secret model tho. Lucky prick. And no, I have course to sell. Im not a PUA.

5ft 8 measured by the doctor, 5ft 9 in most nikes, with a Dr Sholl's insert :ROFLMAO:
So this thread does what exactly? 5’8 isn’t a Manlet, and most females view 5’8 as 5’10.
You shouldn’t be involving your height in helping people, because height doesn’t matter in the slightest. I’m 5’9 and have never had a girl turn me down because of my height, but I’ve grown up with a 6’2 brother who’s never had a girlfriend in his life.
 
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So this thread does what exactly? 5’8 isn’t a Manlet, and most females view 5’8 as 5’10.
You shouldn’t be involving your height in helping people, because height doesn’t matter in the slightest. I’m 5’9 and have never had a girl turn me down because of my height, but I’ve grown up with a 6’2 brother who’s never had a girlfriend in his life.
yea height is cope its only important not to be much shorter than her
 
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Other questions:

1 - Have you ever fucked girls who are taller than you outside high school or college?
2 - Do you think your "stylemaxxing" makes girls believe you're richer than what you actually are?
3 - Do you fragrancemaxx, that is mixing perfumes with arousing pheromones?
4 - What are your exact penis measurements? You said you were above average but you could be thinking that average is 5 inches
5 - How is your game? What tactics and lines were effective for you?

From what I can see your looks are average. You're white, slightly above average height for your country, your frame might be narrow but as long as it's a v-taper people don't really mind and the only issues with your face are a high forehead, which can be frauded by fringemaxxing, and nasolabial folds. Also you appear to have a v-cut, which is a great halo in shirtless situations.

Other questions:

1 - Have you ever fucked girls who are taller than you outside high school or college?
2 - Do you think your "stylemaxxing" makes girls believe you're richer than what you actually are?
3 - Do you fragrancemaxx, that is mixing perfumes with arousing pheromones?
4 - What are your exact penis measurements? You said you were above average but you could be thinking that average is 5 inches
5 - How is your game? What tactics and lines were effective for you?

From what I can see your looks are average. You're white, slightly above average height for your country, your frame might be narrow but as long as it's a v-taper people don't really mind and the only issues with your face are a high forehead, which can be frauded by fringemaxxing, and nasolabial folds. Also you appear to have a v-cut, which is a great halo in shirtless situations.
1. Yes, at at least 4 that I can think off the top of my head. 2 were legit models, other 2 were netball players.
2.absolutely. fashionmogging is a real thing. Girls love fashion and style and respond to it like crazy.
3. Yes but just basic. I always wear brand name cologne.
4. It's about 7 and thick. Don't know exact
5.I could write essays on this, but typically, i try to flirt without ever admitting that I'm attracted to her, just friendzone girls and be myself until they start to freak out and wonder why I'm giving them attention but not tryna fuck them. I never orbit, never pour hours into them unless the interest is reciprocated.
 
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So this thread does what exactly? 5’8 isn’t a Manlet, and most females view 5’8 as 5’10.
You shouldn’t be involving your height in helping people, because height doesn’t matter in the slightest. I’m 5’9 and have never had a girl turn me down because of my height, but I’ve grown up with a 6’2 brother who’s never had a girlfriend in his life.
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yea height is cope its only important not to be much shorter than her
At 5’9, the only girls taller than you are insecure themselves due to being compared to Canary Wharf or they are supermodels and for some reason don’t like other male models.
 
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1. Yes, at at least 4 that I can think off the top of my head. 2 were legit models, other 2 were netball players.
2.absolutely. fashionmogging is a real thing. Girls
what about the rest?
 
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Look at all the butt ugly rappers and swagboiis, most probably got laid a ton before the fame. I think these guys that youre talking about either never had sisters, or were scared of girls as a kid. Its just lack of exposure and experience in IMO. You gotta leave the house to meet thotties ususally.
those guys fuck really decadent women tho
 
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16 is legal here... Also I only ever meet girls online literally never met up with a girl besides family friends who I did not meet online or that another friend brought.
See that's where you're lacking.If I was your friend and you were always creeping on my bitches I'd think you're a loser. You need to bring your own bitches to the party. This is classic bro code. This will get you respect from the guys which is another piece of the puzzle to getting laid consistently.
 
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This requires not having been ejected from society already.

Many of us here rely entirely on apps and on there the black pill rules. It's truly a much harder path but hey, I didn't choose the autism, the autism chose me.
 
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HOW is this possible?​


To put it in the terms used in this forum, I am stylemaxxed, (I grew up in a family that is very fashion consious, in a country that is not very fashionable)

I also have what I believe to be a seductive personality.

Lifefuel​

To get a girl to be OPEN to sleeping with you, you only need 1 THING to make her look, or catch her eye. This can be:
  • The typical stuff discussed here like a good face, tall height, athletic frame, muscular body, or status or fame
  • It can also be easy stuff like a cool beard or interesting tattoos, great style, good taste in jewellery, a great haircut
  • I can go on and on about other stuff if you guys want, but in short, there is 1 thing for anyone, regardless of your genetics.
If you have the basics covered, and you have the 1 THING that gets her attention, the rest of the work is done by YOUR PERSONALITY and ability to get her turned on and close the deal.

I'm telling you, Ive seen so many tall, handsome chads get the eye roll and lose attraction when they act overly cocky, uncalibrated, abrasive etc.


LOOKS THEORY IS COPE

I think a lot of people in this community like to fantasize that if they were good looking or tall, they could just roll around banging staceys all day without the risk of rejection or without having to work on their personality. This is fantasy.
I agree with most of the things you said. I have always thought that you could get around not having a good frame, height, body , voice, eyes etc...
However saying looks theory is a cope is another thing
None of those things would have mattered if you had a recessed maxilla or a recessed chin/jaw. You having what you call a seductive personality, or being stylemaxxed wouldn't outweight it either. So if you had any of the following issues, what you described as having 1 thing to catch a girls eye, be it height, body, frame... wouldn't have mattered
I bet you don't have any of the following things:
-A recessed maxilla
-A recessed jaw

In summary, the basic threshold of looks, in my opinion, should be considered as having a decent maxilla and a decent jaw at least

Sometimes good personality traits or good style, smell etc is even considered ''creepy'' by girls if a mans face does not meet the average treshold

I am open to you debunking my theory as well
 
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NT pill gets more potent and brutal as the days go by jfl:lul::lul::lul::lul:
 
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1. Yes, at at least 4 that I can think off the top of my head. 2 were legit models, other 2 were netball players.
2.absolutely. fashionmogging is a real thing. Girls love fashion and style and respond to it like crazy.
3. Yes but just basic. I always wear brand name cologne.
4. It's about 7 and thick. Don't know exact
5.I could write essays on this, but typically, i try to flirt without ever admitting that I'm attracted to her, just friendzone girls and be myself until they start to freak out and wonder why I'm giving them attention but not tryna fuck them. I never orbit, never pour hours into them unless the interest is reciprocated.
Yawn..

You came from a wealthy family that went to college and I assume has a career. Just look at your pictures you can tell you got money. Along with the location you live in. You probably aren't seen as ugly to them really and have a 7 inch dick you claim which is big enough for women. Yet none of these women want to lock you down? They must be using you and whores

There is no "game" to be had here.
 
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This requires not having been ejected from society already.

Many of us here rely entirely on apps and on there the black pill rules. It's truly a much harder path but hey, I didn't choose the autism, the autism chose me.
If you can get from apps, real life should be a breeze IMO. Some of my shorter friends struggle on apps but crush irl.
 
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I agree with most of the things you said. I have always thought that you could get around not having a good frame, height, body , voice, eyes etc...
However saying looks theory is a cope is another thing
None of those things would have mattered if you had a recessed maxilla or a recessed chin/jaw. You having what you call a seductive personality, or being stylemaxxed wouldn't outweight it either. So if you had any of the following issues, what you described as having 1 thing to catch a girls eye, be it height, body, frame... wouldn't have mattered
I bet you don't have any of the following things:
-A recessed maxilla
-A recessed jaw

In summary, the basic threshold of looks, in my opinion, should be considered as having a decent maxilla and a decent jaw at least

Sometimes good personality traits or good style, smell etc is even considered ''creepy'' by girls if a mans face does not meet the average treshold

I am open to you debunking my theory as well
From a looks threshold perspective, I think what you're saying holds true at the extreme end of bad facial haromony, but again, it's all about the severity of these shortcomings.

If you have extremely bad version of these, and you look like some abomination that people feel disgust upon seeing your face, then yeah, surgery is probably where you should start.

However if you have only one of these, or both to a lesser extent, and you've had fiends that don't mind taking pictures with you for social media, then you're golden. Move to stylemaxxing.


Recessed Maxilla could be overcome by height, and gym body (Jeff Seid)

Recessed Jaw Ive seen overcome by guys with what girls call a "cute" smile and decent body (Michael B. Jordan)
 
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Yawn..

You came from a wealthy family that went to college and I assume has a career. Just look at your pictures you can tell you got money. Along with the location you live in. You probably aren't seen as ugly to them really and have a 7 inch dick you claim which is big enough for women. Yet none of these women want to lock you down? They must be using you and whores

There is no "game" to be had here.
Yes I would say that I am lifemaxxed. I have a good carreer, good social life, events to take my plus 1 to etc. But that's necessary even for Chad if you to keep girls in your life for more than a few months.

Also, quite a few of the girls wanted to lock me down, I wasnt interested in that until last couple of years.
 
I don't think any amount of height or body could overcome this guys facial looks for example
And the worst thing is his occlusion is probably normal so %98 of surgeons will just refuse to give him surgery, even if he is determined to get surgery he will have to find a blackpilled surgeon or a surgeon who knows jaw surgery is not only functuonal but aesthetic also, which will increase the price he will have to pay as expected, and worst thing is none of it will ever be covered because there is no occlusion problem
So a recessed maxilla is definetely a way to start like with -100 points but recessed maxilla with normal occlusion you start life with -999999 points
 

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I believe OP is being honest. That said, it seems exaggerated because he's probably perceiving a couple things optimistically

-Obviously these girls aren't 8/9s. Even from the limited and blurred pics, we can see that plain as say. They probably are 7s though by normie standards, and that's respectable. Pretty much any guy who fucks a 7 feels that she's a 9, and this is how all my irl friends talk about their slays. So it's not lying so much as biased interpretation

-OP is probably underestimating his own face to some extent. Meeting this forums standard for a Chad is one thing, but meeting irl girl's standards for good looking is another (much more attainable) thing

That said, believe him. You guys drastically overestimate how hard it is to fuck good looking girls, just because YOU can't do it. And the reason most of you can't do it, is simply because you're weird and autistic. If you are normal, charismatic and funny, good game, average looking face, you can fuck 6s and 7s all day. And yeah, triple digit kill count is possible too. I hit that at maybe 19, 20?
 
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I don't think any amount of height or body could overcome this guys facial looks for example
And the worst thing is his occlusion is probably normal so %98 of surgeons will just refuse to give him surgery, even if he is determined to get surgery he will have to find a blackpilled surgeon or a surgeon who knows jaw surgery is not only functuonal but aesthetic also, which will increase the price he will have to pay as expected, and worst thing is none of it will ever be covered because there is no occlusion problem
So a recessed maxilla is definetely a way to start like with -100 points but recessed maxilla with normal occlusion you start life with -999999 points
Ok, but that guy has a multitude of things going on, Also a nose job would drastically reduce the impact of that maxilla, and a jaw implant wound bring him up to normie.

A girl I badly wanted for a while was going out with a guy who looked almost exactly like this, but with long surfer hair, pale/ freckly skin, 5ft9, but with a swimmer's build, so it's not over.
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I believe OP is being honest. That said, it seems exaggerated because he's probably perceiving a couple things optimistically

-Obviously these girls aren't 8/9s. Even from the limited and blurred pics, we can see that plain as say. They probably are 7s though by normie standards, and that's respectable. Pretty much any guy who fucks a 7 feels that she's a 9, and this is how all my irl friends talk about their slays. So it's not lying so much as biased interpretation

-OP is probably underestimating his own face to some extent. Meeting this forums standard for a Chad is one thing, but meeting irl girl's standards for good looking is another (much more attainable) thing

That said, believe him. You guys drastically overestimate how hard it is to fuck good looking girls, just because YOU can't do it. And the reason most of you can't do it, is simply because you're weird and autistic. If you are normal, charismatic and funny, good game, average looking face, you can fuck 6s and 7s all day. And yeah, triple digit kill count is possible too. I hit that at maybe 19, 20?
I agree with this, it's fairly subjective. The girls I posted are not the hottest I've been with. I posted the most candid pics I could find. Girl watering the plant is IMO an 8, the rest are 7s and below. But in real life terms, the level of difficulty does not increase the higher up you go. If you're going for the hottest girl in the group, the level of difficulty is the same regardless of her relative looks rating. In some ways, hotter girls are easier if you are rock solid self belief type of guy. They are less testy and play less games.

The fundamentals do not change higher up the looks scale. The hard thing at those levels is access. That's why partyboys become photographers, more access to models.
 
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I agree with this, it's fairly subjective. The girls I posted are not the hottest I've been with. I posted the most candid pics I could find. Girl watering the plant is IMO an 8, the rest are 7s and below. But in real life terms, the level of difficulty does not increase the higher up you go. If you're going for the hottest girl in the group, the level of difficulty is the same regardless of her relative looks rating. In some ways, hotter girls are easier if you are rock solid self belief type of guy. They are less testy and play less games.

The fundamentals do not change higher up the looks scale. The hard thing at those levels is access. That's why partyboys become photographers, more access to models.
Correct & agreed. I've also found that if you can easily fuck 6s, you can fuck 8s just as easily. I no longer fuck girls who AREN'T hot ever, because there's simply no reason to. And like I said, I believe you fuck hot girls because you can't fake the knowledge and attitude that comes from it. Just contextualizing it in a way that psl autists can potentially understand. Keep in mind we are talking normie standards, where 8 is hot, and 9 is obscenely hot. But these guys have a rigid scale in mind where no girl on earth is even an 8
 
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Anyway, the big message I wanted to get accross with this post, is this.

In my observation, people's level of self esteem is usually in direct correlation with how attractive they believe they are to the opposite sex.​

This has been programmed into us over the last 50 years by fem-centric media. In short, this is girl-logic.​

This is not necessarily true for men. Our value is rooted in the strength of our reslove, comptence, bravery etc.​

Once you internalise this, it becomes easy to divorce your own looks from your self esteem and thus, the league of women you believe youre entitled to.​

 
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Anyway, the big message I wanted to get accross with this post, is this.

In my observation, people's level of self esteem is usually in direct correlation with how attractive they believe they are to the opposite sex.​

This has been programmed into us over the last 50 years by fem-centric media. In short, this is girl-logic.​

This is not necessarily true for men. Our value is rooted in the strength of our reslove, comptence, bravery etc.​

Once you internalise this, it becomes easy to divorce your own looks from your self esteem and thus, the league of women you believe youre entitled to.​

Not true
 
Don't the future All Blacks slay all th foids in NZ?
Haha yeah some of them do. A lot of athletic swaggy pacific islander guys do really well. But serious athletes just dont have the time and lifestyle required to do this at a high level, they usually pic a 6 or 7/10 for LTR
 
Haha yeah some of them do. A lot of athletic swaggy pacific islander guys do really well. But serious athletes just dont have the time and lifestyle required to do this at a high level, they usually pic a 6 or 7/10 for LTR
Stfu with your advice, you come from wealth ,you went to college and you aren't hideous. I'd be pulling girls too if I had it like that. Most people do not.
 
Stfu with your advice, you come from wealth ,you went to college and you aren't hideous. I'd be pulling girls too if I had it like that. Most people do not.
I don't know your situation, you big crybaby.

Maybe you're fucked bro. If you are, I'm sorry. But if you're even close to normal looking and a virgin, you're coping
 
I don't know your situation, you big crybaby.

Maybe you're fucked bro. If you are, I'm sorry. But if you're even close to normal looking and a virgin, you're coping
Cry cause your advice is shit , just tell people to come from a wealthy family and live in Finland
 
Cry cause your advice is shit , just tell people to come from a wealthy family and live in Finland
My family is middle class brother. I've said this already. It's not the deciding factor.

Going to college helped improve my social skills, but I took out a government loan, not parents. My degree was a bullshit sports degree that I took just to have a college experience.

How much worse would my looks have to be for my advice to be valid?

What is this unique disadvantage that you have that is so horrible and debilitating that you can't make it brah? Please tell me
 
My family is middle class brother. I've said this already. It's not the deciding factor.

Going to college helped improve my social skills, but I took out a government loan, not parents. My degree was a bullshit sports degree that I took just to have a college experience.

How much worse would my looks have to be for my advice to be valid?

What is this unique disadvantage that you have that is so horrible and debilitating that you can't make it brah? Please tell me
You already claimed your parents were wealthy and now you are back pedaling to middle class lol I can just tell by your pics alone you have money and career. That is huge in the world and in the dating market. People judge you on how well off you are,you cant fake the pics either that you are wealthy. Plus you live in Finland which most likely helped your cause. If you live in poverty,short,and seen as ugly you wont get no woman at all.
 
You already claimed your parents were wealthy and now you are back pedaling to middle class lol I can just tell by your pics alone you have money and career. That is huge in the world and in the dating market. People judge you on how well off you are,you cant fake the pics either that you are wealthy. Plus you live in Finland which most likely helped your cause. If you live in poverty,short,and seen as ugly you wont get no woman at all.
Well yeah, if you're in poverty, ugly AND short? My man...

Whos even arguing that?

Why should you get a girl? U got nothing she wants. Shes going to choose someone that that's got at least 1 of those things to trade her pussy for, unless she's a complete retard.

Your first priority is to get some sort of life, and forget about banging hotties.

Sorry for the unsolicitated advice
 
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Well yeah, if you're in poverty, ugly AND short? My man...

Whos even arguing that?

Why should you get a girl? U got nothing she wants. Shes going to choose someone that that's got at least 1 of those things to trade her pussy for, unless she's a complete retard.

Your first priority is to get some sort of life, and forget about banging hotties.

Sorry for the unsolicitated advice
That is why it's a blessing to come from a wealthy family and born in the right location also. You already got the upper hand in life if you have good parents.

As for poverty. I had a rough up bringing,my parents wasn't there for me and they were also poor. So in highschool I had severe depression, I hated school. I got a job as a waiter. And wasn't liked there either ,couldn't get a girlfriend either and was a loner.

I met a girl at 21 and had a 5 year relationship with her,had a daughter with her and married her. Right when I was going to college she started cheating with black men. And my only real parent my grandfather died. So I couldn't go back to college because I was in debt. I was stuck with shitty low paying jobs.

So it doesn't matter what kind of shitty job I have now ,women see me as a ugly failure in life. Plus I'm 5'7 and now 39 since September. I've been trying to replace my x since I was 27 years old. I've had thousands of rejections and girls treating me like shit.

So there is a big difference between me and you
 
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Well yeah, if you're in poverty, ugly AND short? My man...

Whos even arguing that?

Why should you get a girl? U got nothing she wants. Shes going to choose someone that that's got at least 1 of those things to trade her pussy for, unless she's a complete retard.

Your first priority is to get some sort of life, and forget about banging hotties.

Sorry for the unsolicitated advice
Oh and it's not just hotties,I've lowered my standards down to 1/10s. They still got the same requirements and shitty attitudes. But you can be broke piece of shit if you are seen as hot to them. They will drive the guy around even in their car. I see it all the time at my job.

There is no such thing as game,confidence, or personality for relationships. I see couples that dont even talk. Its strictly looks/height, career ,money. Of course you will be confident if you have any of that because the world shows you respect if you have them. They always use it in insults if you dont.
 
That is why it's a blessing to come from a wealthy family and born in the right location also. You already got the upper hand in life if you have good parents.

As for poverty. I had a rough up bringing,my parents wasn't there for me and they were also poor. So in highschool I had severe depression, I hated school. I got a job as a waiter. And wasn't liked there either ,couldn't get a girlfriend either and was a loner.

I met a girl at 21 and had a 5 year relationship with her,had a daughter with her and married her. Right when I was going to college she started cheating with black men. And my only real parent my grandfather died. So I couldn't go back to college because I was in debt. I was stuck with shitty low paying jobs.

So it doesn't matter what kind of shitty job I have now ,women see me as a ugly failure in life. Plus I'm 5'7 and now 39 since September. I've been trying to replace my x since I was 27 years old. I've had thousands of rejections and girls treating me like shit.

So there is a big difference between me and you
That's rough brother, I'm sorry to hear it. PM'd you but It sounds like you've got your mind made up. good luck anyway
 
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That's rough brother, I'm sorry to hear it. PM'd you but It sounds like you've got your mind made up. good luck anyway
Didnt see any PM, but thanks for the sympathy. People dont realize it starts at youth with good parents. And getting a career. The world will judge you harshly ,both men and women. It will effect your love life. Unless you are tall and hot and some woman wants to build you up.
 
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