I can objectively prove the existence of God

[Sub5 & Celibate]

provide evidence for the premise. also what law of logic have i disregarded in my argument? did i commit any fallacies, if yes name them

What religion are you before i debate

 

[Deleted member 137296]

they aren’t though. you are just saying they are, but not giving a reason, or an argument for why that is the case

your human brain interface (what you perceive as reality) is your reality so all attempts at conceptualising base layer ontological reality (god) or quite literally any reality besides your own, are completely self contradictory ie human constructs

the input is irrational/incomplete therefore no rational output or assertions about the truth can be made

 

[TamazighenKM]

You haven't given an argument as to why it's not a human construct
Only idiots argue about this stuff. It would be like arguing about whether there are invisible people around us

1. no defeaters presented and appears to be the case

 

[TamazighenKM]

That is a metaphysical assumption. You are asserting not demonstrating the premise. Platonism can very well explain the nature of logic without a higher entity to produce it

I 100% agree. if you are a platonist i would simply deconstruct the platonistic paradigm and show its incoherency. are you a platonist?

 

[TamazighenKM]

What religion are you before i debate

muslim

 

[Deleted member 131140]

I 100% agree. if you are a platonist i would simply deconstruct the platonistic paradigm and show its incoherency. are you a platonist?

No, I am merely stating a view.

 

[TamazighenKM]

No, I am merely stating a view.

okay, then do you agree with my metaphysical assumption or not

 

[Deleted member 131140]

okay, then do you agree with my metaphysical assumption or not

I would have to read up more on it. Cant say I have read more than intro Phil

 

[TamazighenKM]

I would have to read up more on it. Cant say I have read more than intro Phil

cool, well either way it’ll lead to my argument being victorious, jfl

 

[Sub5 & Celibate]

muslim

forum was down all day and im at work debate later

 

[Sub5UglyMan]

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[Ogionth]

Add me on discord: jongeman__
God is a necessary precondition for a universal truth, universal truths exist, therefore God exists

Your argument is fallible, dm me for further info, I refuse to say it here because I'm also a Muslim.

 

[TamazighenKM]

Ontological

BABAHAHAH, so you believe there is an ontological concrete entity called the law of non contradiction floating around in the universe. ad absurdity—> defeater to your position jfl

 

[TamazighenKM]

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username says it all

 

[TamazighenKM]

Your argument is fallible, dm me for further info, I refuse to say it here because I'm also a Muslim.

add me on discord

 

[Sub5UglyMan]

username says it all

Username: it all

 

[TamazighenKM]

Username: it all

jfl

 

[Deleted member 107106]

BABAHAHAH, so you believe there is an ontological concrete entity called the law of non contradiction floating around in the universe. ad absurdity—> defeater to your position jfl

ontological just means its part of realitys structure like math isnt floating around but still holds universally

 

[Ogionth]

add me on discord

i don't use dc, just use the private chat on here

 

[Hernan]

Add me on discord: jongeman__
God is a necessary precondition for a universal truth, universal truths exist, therefore God exists

goede middag jongeman.

 

[TamazighenKM]

goede middag jongeman.

yoo

 

[TamazighenKM]

ontological just means its part of realitys structure like math isnt floating around but still holds universally

no, math doesn’t have any ontological grounding. it exists only conceptually

 

[iblamemyheight]

im sorry for my ignorance, but 2 things:

1. This only proves the existence of a non-interventionist God. Then why are you muslim?
2. Im gonna assume youre an investor from your pfp. Do you acknowledge the fact that statistics has debunked the posibility of "beating the market", so proving is basically gambling?

 

[TamazighenKM]

im sorry for my ignorance, but 2 things:

1. This only proves the existence of a non-interventionist God. Then why are you muslim?
2. Im gonna assume youre an investor from your pfp. Do you acknowledge the fact that statistics has debunked the posibility of "beating the market", so proving is basically gambling?

Yes, the argument is designed to prove a necesary intelect, we would call that God. Also, its partial gambling if you dont know what you are doing