I can't believe we still have religion cucks on this site

indeed it is a dark thought knowing we'll eventually dissipate into nothingness, some people just can't seem to accept that. All in all I try to avoid participating in these types of discussions. To each his cope.
i think the nothingness is just a switch? Were it really years or was it like 1 second that you were absent? After all we are already in the afterlife. We came from NOTHING. Whatever that nothing is that we are describing
 
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The way I see it, if there is a god, why do we worship him? He tortures mankind, and if you don’t believe in him he’ll throw you into Hell for eternity. Is this really someone we should befriend? I don’t mind people who worship god but it never made sense to me when he causes us to suffer in agony.
 
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You have an idealistic way of looking at the world. You are looking at the world how it should be, how you would like it to be. You treat people how you think they should be treated, rather than how your own instincts choose to. The world is not idealistic, the world is selfish and based on maximum profit. Every social heirarchy is based on rising as high as you can given what resources you have. It's selfish. I realized if you act idealistically (as you do) you cannot succeed in this world. It won't work. The only way to win is to become part of the evil system, and the world is evil, as God made it.
Let me tell you one thing my brother :
I prefer to be seen as alienated by an alienated society, than be seen as good by an alienated one.
What will i gain from temporal materiality, by humiliating people, and oppressing the "ugly" or "poor" ones? I'll only gain long term depression, lack of happinness and good ticket for hellfire.
the World is not idealistic because of the Permission of God != Him wanting to happen, but since it's a test and we have relative free will, you want that acting bad was impossible? This wouldn't be a test then !
For nothing i will change how i act and start to act bad.
I'm looking at things and people how God teached us to do so. Because i've studied it and my reason and heart tell me it's the sole thing to do.

Let me tell you : You'r saying this world tells you to act bad, and wrong because otherwise you won't suceed. But have you questionned this current world itself? Why it wants to promote what is not good? And why should you follow it and set it as principle? Falsehood shouldn't be taken as principle ever.
 
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The way I see it, if there is a god, why do we worship him? He tortures mankind, and if you don’t believe in him he’ll throw you into Hell for eternity. Is this really someone we should befriend? I don’t mind people who worship god but it never made sense to me when he causes us to suffer in agony.
That's what I'm saying. Even God's "salvation" doesn't really make much sense. What are we going to be saved from? His own torment? What the fuck?

Why not just not torture us in the first place?
"Because God gave you freewill and you choose to do evil so God must justly punish you for your own evil decisions, it's justice"

Why not just remove our free will then?

"Because God wants those who love him, and those who use freewill to freely follow him would be better than if he just created a bunch of robots to worship him"

So this means God created a shitty system of suffering where even good people must suffer and 95% of all people go to hell just so 5% can go to heaven? All so what, god can have a few good worshippers meanwhile a shit ton of people burning in hell FOREVER?

What the fuck man. How can god seriously design a place that just burns for all of time and call himself a good person jfl. That's worse than what hitler did. They only did it for a reason, and it wasn't forever. God burns random people for all of time. Just lol.
 
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but u told me you n'aimes pas les personnes qui bouffent des animaux qu'on appelle certains membres ici
Je plaisantais, même si je le voulais je ne pourrais pas haîr ma personnalité est ainsi.
 
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Great, i'll only give you few arguments.
Keep in mind, atheistic people claim metaphysically that God doesn't exist. It's a bold claim, and they have nothing to prove it.
I'll then need to tell you that NOTHING in this world is certain DUE to the very essence of humans and of the earth and overall creation. Because we can't actually totally prove it.
Explains also why Science is a belief.
In different ways :
- metaphysically in its premisses, it says that Only materiality exists. Not because it's actually all that exist, but because science can only works on materiality and on nothing else, so it's auto-justification. It's like me saying only black crow exist because i only know black ones - which is factually false because whites ones exist too. Funily enough, it's because of the rationality and consistency of this world, that science exist, and not the other way around : It's because this world isn't absurd rationally wise, that we can do science, and this is also a non proved premisse - that this world is rational, it is but it's not proven why.
- in its methology, it rely on two things : Either induction, but issue of it is that science do prediction about it, while it's rationalistically impossible and means it's a belief, because you'll have to know EVERY situation/experiement/sample EVERYTHING, EVERYTIME, FOREVER. It's not possible, i suggest you to read more about the white crow contradiction. ; Or in deduction, and deduction rely on axiom, that by definition aren't meant to be proven nor can be, so it's also a belief. Not even the evolution of science is "addition", but rather contradiction and opposition, seee Thomas Kuhn work in that regard.

Even the theory of causality isn't proven - that the sun will wake up every morning etc - so what to do ?

Rely on probabilities; How? When a claim is more probable than the other, we have to follow it.

So, about existence of God or non existence : What do atheism bring up to prove he doesn't exist ? Nothing.
Let me give you few things :
- The least probabilistic event to happen ever, is the creation of this universe. Even back in time machines are more probable to happen yet didn't happened. Not only that but, the maintaining of the constances and variables SINCE SO long are even more rare to obtain, yet it is still there, and explains why we'r alive. And these constants and variables are the condition of possibility of the existence of science and rationality. And can be explained well by the Idea that God loves us, and didn't wanted to create an absurd world where we would only suffer without beeing able to understand anything. Funnily enough one of the first rule of thermodynamics says that the less control you are over something the more it will be chaotic. Nothing was less controlled than the creation of the Universe, yet nothing is more incredible and harmonious.
- The argument of the contingency. Nothing can rationaly be opposed to it, and everything can be seen as contingent, beside the existence of the necessary beeing.

And what can explain the creation of something where you have nothing to gain from? It's only a gift by definition, and it's because of God's love to us, that he created this whole universe.

I can write dozens of paragraphs but i'm not home and this should suffice as a prelude.
I'll then need to tell you that NOTHING in this world is certain DUE to the very essence of humans and of the earth and overall creation. Because we can't actually totally prove it.
Like religion, but you still believe its true or the statement youre making that nothing in the world is certain. If we apply youre thinking even this statement is uncertain itself. When we follow youre thinking we should make no judgment about anything at all.
You should be agnostic
 
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I'll then need to tell you that NOTHING in this world is certain DUE to the very essence of humans and of the earth and overall creation. Because we can't actually totally prove it.
Like religion, but you still believe its true or the statement youre making that nothing in the world is certain. If we apply youre thinking even this statement is uncertain itself. When we follow youre thinking we should make no judgment about anything at all.
You should be agnostic
I didn't explained why religion is more probabilistic to follow here, just that Deism is more probabilistic than atheism.
Agnosticism says chances of god to exist are similar to not exist probabilistically wise, so i decide to say i don't know, while in actuality, there is more probablity to god to exist as i showed you - shortly.
I'll make another post about what is the most probabilistic position inside deism, and you are free to try to refute it rationaly.
 
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I’m still an affiliate of the Catholic Church.
 
Let me tell you one thing my brother :
I prefer to be seen as alienated by an alienated society, than be seen as good by an alienated one.
What will i gain from temporal materiality, by humiliating people, and oppressing the "ugly" or "poor" ones? I'll only gain long term depression, lack of happinness and good ticket for hellfire.
the World is not idealistic because of the Permission of God != Him wanting to happen, but since it's a test and we have relative free will, you want that acting bad was impossible? This wouldn't be a test then !
For nothing i will change how i act and start to act bad.
I'm looking at things and people how God teached us to do so. Because i've studied it and my reason and heart tell me it's the sole thing to do.

Let me tell you : You'r saying this world tells you to act bad, and wrong because otherwise you won't suceed. But have you questionned this current world itself? Why it wants to promote what is not good? And why should you follow it and set it as principle? Falsehood shouldn't be taken as principle ever.
I have read the entire Bible over 20 times.

Its impossible to be a normal functioning member of society and believe in the bible. For example, jesus states something like "he who follows me must forsake all" including his father, mother, and family. And Paul in the new testament states "by much tribulation we shall enter the kingdom of heaven". And Jesus states in the new testament that the path to heaven is narrow, strait, and hard, and the path to hell is wide, and many walk on it. Jesus also states that his disciples may not even have 2 coats, but instead preach 24/7 roaming about with a staff and shoes and nothing more. And moreso, John in the new testament states that the world hated him, because he was not of the world. And Jesus himself says this, that you will be hated as a Christian.

You cannot follow God and also be a member of society. If you actually follow what the bible says to do, you will be seen as a weirdo and annoying preacher. Even jesus states this, and I think it's true, but it's for a completely different reason than jesus states. Its idealistic rather than based in reality, and constant preaching is annoying. Tell @werty1457 that I preached online for 3 years straight and talked to hundreds of people, but I doubt I converted a single fucking one.
 
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I have read the entire Bible over 20 times.

Its impossible to be a normal functioning member of society and believe in the bible. For example, jesus states something like "he who follows me must forsake all" including his father, mother, and family. And Paul in the new testament states "by much tribulation we shall enter the kingdom of heaven". And Jesus states in the new testament that the path to heaven is narrow, strait, and hard, and the path to hell is wide, and many walk on it. Jesus also states that his disciples may not even have 2 coats, but instead preach 24/7 roaming about with a staff and shoes and nothing more. And moreso, John in the new testament states that the world hated him, because he was not of the world. And Jesus himself says this, that you will be hated as a Christian.

You cannot follow God and also be a member of society. If you actually follow what the bible says to do, you will be seen as a weirdo and annoying preacher. Even jesus states this, and I think it's true, but it's for a completely different reason than jesus states. Its idealistic rather than based in reality, and constant preaching is annoying. Tell @werty1457 that I preached online for 3 years straight and talked to hundreds of people, but I doubt I converted a single fucking one.
Brother, i've gone through all that, about atheism, agnosticism, philosophy, epistemology, christianity and every monotheism or polytheism.
I'm not christian and it doesn't make sense rationaly as a faith nor it does society wise because historically they were expecting the End of Times soon - read Ehrman in that regard - so didn't wanted to create a whole society with rules, that's why 400 years later, when the church ruled it, they created sui generis rules and everything in contradiction to Jesus teachings.
Werty is prime example of a poor ignorant guy who acts he is knowlegeable but that's fine, i won't go further in that regard. I lack a lot of knowledge but still enough to discuss about it for a start. So please, if you have issues, show which point of me you disagree, and i'll try to answer you.
 
I have read the entire Bible over 20 times.

Its impossible to be a normal functioning member of society and believe in the bible. For example, jesus states something like "he who follows me must forsake all" including his father, mother, and family. And Paul in the new testament states "by much tribulation we shall enter the kingdom of heaven". And Jesus states in the new testament that the path to heaven is narrow, strait, and hard, and the path to hell is wide, and many walk on it. Jesus also states that his disciples may not even have 2 coats, but instead preach 24/7 roaming about with a staff and shoes and nothing more. And moreso, John in the new testament states that the world hated him, because he was not of the world. And Jesus himself says this, that you will be hated as a Christian.

You cannot follow God and also be a member of society. If you actually follow what the bible says to do, you will be seen as a weirdo and annoying preacher. Even jesus states this, and I think it's true, but it's for a completely different reason than jesus states. Its idealistic rather than based in reality, and constant preaching is annoying. Tell @werty1457 that I preached online for 3 years straight and talked to hundreds of people, but I doubt I converted a single fucking one.
If you follow biblical literalism / fundamentalism, then maybe
 
COPE, i cant hate on muslims since they believe in a whorehouse paradise with big titted white virgins, very black pilled
im gonna join this religion of peace sooner or later jfl
 
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Brother, i've gone through all that, about atheism, agnosticism, philosophy, epistemology, christianity and every monotheism or polytheism.
I'm not christian and it doesn't make sense rationaly as a faith nor it does society wise because historically they were expecting the End of Times soon - read Ehrman in that regard - so didn't wanted to create a whole society with rules, that's why 400 years later, when the church ruled it, they created sui generis rules and everything in contradiction to Jesus teachings.
Werty is prime example of a poor ignorant guy who acts he is knowlegeable but that's fine, i won't go further in that regard. I lack a lot of knowledge but still enough to discuss about it for a start. So please, if you have issues, show which point of me you disagree, and i'll try to answer you.
do the end times have to be taken as an actual temporal event to happen though
if you get what i mean
 
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do the end times have to be taken as an actual temporal event to happen though
if you get what i mean
Technically speaking the World will be destructed, so it will take place in a space and time. But if you mean as if there is an "hour" of it, then no imo.
 
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Great, i'll only give you few arguments.
Keep in mind, atheistic people claim metaphysically that God doesn't exist. It's a bold claim, and they have nothing to prove it.
I'll then need to tell you that NOTHING in this world is certain DUE to the very essence of humans and of the earth and overall creation. Because we can't actually totally prove it.
Explains also why Science is a belief.
In different ways :
- metaphysically in its premisses, it says that Only materiality exists. Not because it's actually all that exist, but because science can only works on materiality and on nothing else, so it's auto-justification. It's like me saying only black crow exist because i only know black ones - which is factually false because whites ones exist too. Funily enough, it's because of the rationality and consistency of this world, that science exist, and not the other way around : It's because this world isn't absurd rationally wise, that we can do science, and this is also a non proved premisse - that this world is rational, it is but it's not proven why.
- in its methology, it rely on two things : Either induction, but issue of it is that science do prediction about it, while it's rationalistically impossible and means it's a belief, because you'll have to know EVERY situation/experiement/sample EVERYTHING, EVERYTIME, FOREVER. It's not possible, i suggest you to read more about the white crow contradiction. ; Or in deduction, and deduction rely on axiom, that by definition aren't meant to be proven nor can be, so it's also a belief. Not even the evolution of science is "addition", but rather contradiction and opposition, seee Thomas Kuhn work in that regard.

Even the theory of causality isn't proven - that the sun will wake up every morning etc - so what to do ?

Rely on probabilities; How? When a claim is more probable than the other, we have to follow it.

So, about existence of God or non existence : What do atheism bring up to prove he doesn't exist ? Nothing.
Let me give you few things :
- The least probabilistic event to happen ever, is the creation of this universe. Even back in time machines are more probable to happen yet didn't happened. Not only that but, the maintaining of the constances and variables SINCE SO long are even more rare to obtain, yet it is still there, and explains why we'r alive. And these constants and variables are the condition of possibility of the existence of science and rationality. And can be explained well by the Idea that God loves us, and didn't wanted to create an absurd world where we would only suffer without beeing able to understand anything. Funnily enough one of the first rule of thermodynamics says that the less control you are over something the more it will be chaotic. Nothing was less controlled than the creation of the Universe, yet nothing is more incredible and harmonious.
- The argument of the contingency. Nothing can rationaly be opposed to it, and everything can be seen as contingent, beside the existence of the necessary beeing.

And what can explain the creation of something where you have nothing to gain from? It's only a gift by definition, and it's because of God's love to us, that he created this whole universe.

I can write dozens of paragraphs but i'm not home and this should suffice as a prelude.
- metaphysically in its premisses, it says that Only materiality exists. Not because it's actually all that exist, but because science can only works on materiality and on nothing else, so it's auto-justification. It's like me saying only black crow exist because i only know black ones - which is factually false because whites ones exist too. Funily enough, it's because of the rationality and consistency of this world, that science exist, and not the other way around : It's because this world isn't absurd rationally wise, that we can do science, and this is also a non proved premisse - that this world is rational, it is but it's not proven why.
- in its methology, it rely on two things : Either induction, but issue of it is that science do prediction about it, while it's rationalistically impossible and means it's a belief, because you'll have to know EVERY situation/experiement/sample EVERYTHING, EVERYTIME, FOREVER. It's not possible, i suggest you to read more about the white crow contradiction. ; Or in deduction, and deduction rely on axiom, that by definition aren't meant to be proven nor can be, so it's also a belief. Not even the evolution of science is "addition", but rather contradiction and opposition, seee Thomas Kuhn work in that regard.

I agree and iam aware of all this
now to your arguments


So, about existence of God or non existence : What do atheism bring up to prove he doesn't exist ? Nothing.
Let me give you few things :
- The least probabilistic event to happen ever, is the creation of this universe. Even back in time machines are more probable to happen yet didn't happened. Not only that but, the maintaining of the constances and variables SINCE SO long are even more rare to obtain, yet it is still there, and explains why we'r alive. And these constants and variables are the condition of possibility of the existence of science and rationality. And can be explained well by the Idea that God loves us, and didn't wanted to create an absurd world where we would only suffer without beeing able to understand anything. Funnily enough one of the first rule of thermodynamics says that the less control you are over something the more it will be chaotic. Nothing was less controlled than the creation of the Universe, yet nothing is more incredible and harmonious.

How do come to these probabilities ?
So because the probability is low it must be god.

Weak argument.


- The argument of the contingency. Nothing can rationaly be opposed to it, and everything can be seen as contingent, beside the existence of the necessary beeing.
Yeah the uncaused cause
The immovable mover but it's a principle for aristotle no god.
Explain to me why you think its the christian god or even an intelligent being
 
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- metaphysically in its premisses, it says that Only materiality exists. Not because it's actually all that exist, but because science can only works on materiality and on nothing else, so it's auto-justification. It's like me saying only black crow exist because i only know black ones - which is factually false because whites ones exist too. Funily enough, it's because of the rationality and consistency of this world, that science exist, and not the other way around : It's because this world isn't absurd rationally wise, that we can do science, and this is also a non proved premisse - that this world is rational, it is but it's not proven why.
- in its methology, it rely on two things : Either induction, but issue of it is that science do prediction about it, while it's rationalistically impossible and means it's a belief, because you'll have to know EVERY situation/experiement/sample EVERYTHING, EVERYTIME, FOREVER. It's not possible, i suggest you to read more about the white crow contradiction. ; Or in deduction, and deduction rely on axiom, that by definition aren't meant to be proven nor can be, so it's also a belief. Not even the evolution of science is "addition", but rather contradiction and opposition, seee Thomas Kuhn work in that regard.

I agree and iam aware of all this
now to your arguments


So, about existence of God or non existence : What do atheism bring up to prove he doesn't exist ? Nothing.
Let me give you few things :
- The least probabilistic event to happen ever, is the creation of this universe. Even back in time machines are more probable to happen yet didn't happened. Not only that but, the maintaining of the constances and variables SINCE SO long are even more rare to obtain, yet it is still there, and explains why we'r alive. And these constants and variables are the condition of possibility of the existence of science and rationality. And can be explained well by the Idea that God loves us, and didn't wanted to create an absurd world where we would only suffer without beeing able to understand anything. Funnily enough one of the first rule of thermodynamics says that the less control you are over something the more it will be chaotic. Nothing was less controlled than the creation of the Universe, yet nothing is more incredible and harmonious.

How do come to these probabilities ?
So because the probability is low it must be god.

Weak argument.


- The argument of the contingency. Nothing can rationaly be opposed to it, and everything can be seen as contingent, beside the existence of the necessary beeing.
Yeah the uncaused cause
The immovable mover but it's a principle for aristotle no god.
Explain to me why you think its the christian god or even an intelligent being
Good so we can then discuss. I can hardly reply now but when i can i'll do i hope - physically not at home -, and hope you'll be there to reply.
 
Good so we can then discuss. I can hardly reply now but when i can i'll do i hope, and hope you'll be there to reply.
pms or in this thread ?
 
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not sure to have understood your point, but if u mean that is has to be taken metaphorically only then no. If you wanted to know if it's possible to know when, then here too, no.
 
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not sure to have understood your point, but if u mean that is has to be taken metaphorically only then no. If you wanted to know if it's possible to know when, then here too, no.
i meant if it can be taken as just metaphorical
does there have to be a "when" or does it have to happen in "the" time (idk)
 
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i dont wanna talk bad about religion here because i know many good users are religious
 
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Pm me than your answer
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as you prefer.
also iam now aware that for you nothing is certain
so we must choose the most probable
i misunderstood this earlier in my comment
 
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i meant if it can be taken as just metaphorical
does there have to be a "when" or does it have to happen in "the" time (idk)
It's physical, ie happens in reality. When we die, and are all reunited the earth won't exist anymore.
 
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i like messing with them tbh
i get really funny reactions sometimes
even though im religious too
 
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also iam now aware that for you nothing is certain
so we must choose the most probable
i misunderstood this earlier in my comment
if you knew how to speak french it would have been better, nor am i in shape to type good english now - it's very late and i was driving for hours- nor my english is sadly perfect. But yes, that was what i meant.
 
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I have read the entire Bible over 20 times.

Its impossible to be a normal functioning member of society and believe in the bible. For example, jesus states something like "he who follows me must forsake all" including his father, mother, and family. And Paul in the new testament states "by much tribulation we shall enter the kingdom of heaven". And Jesus states in the new testament that the path to heaven is narrow, strait, and hard, and the path to hell is wide, and many walk on it. Jesus also states that his disciples may not even have 2 coats, but instead preach 24/7 roaming about with a staff and shoes and nothing more. And moreso, John in the new testament states that the world hated him, because he was not of the world. And Jesus himself says this, that you will be hated as a Christian.

You cannot follow God and also be a member of society. If you actually follow what the bible says to do, you will be seen as a weirdo and annoying preacher. Even jesus states this, and I think it's true, but it's for a completely different reason than jesus states. Its idealistic rather than based in reality, and constant preaching is annoying. Tell @werty1457 that I preached online for 3 years straight and talked to hundreds of people, but I doubt I converted a single fucking one.
yes tribulation is guaranteed but the same with living as a sinner
rather get thru pain and go to HEAVEN then get thru pain and go to HELL
reading the bible doesnt save you
evangelism doesnt save you
were you even born again? What a joke.
 
please. when i was a christian, i was a much better christian than you. now that i am agnostic, i am still probably more holy than you. even this humble fucking brag here i legit wouldn't do myself when i was a christian. you are a moron if you think ive done anything morally wrong by simply not seeing logically how god exists. christianity if anything seems retarded to me now.

Are you telling me I'm going to burn for all eternity because I can't see that God exists, and even when I ask God to reveal himself to me 100x (but nothing happens) I am therefore not worthy of going to heaven?

by this logic god wants stupid people in heaven. Think of all the smart people in hell that only take legitimate evidence as proof, all of them are going to hell, meanwhile all the coping low IQ christian bible thumpers see a butterfly and assume it's a messanger of God and as a result they go to heaven? Jfl heavens going to be filled with a shit ton of stupid people in the afterlife.
were you even born again? "I was a better Christian" you should know saying that is an unrighteous judgement
 
were you even born again? "I was a better Christian" you should know saying that is an unrighteous judgement
shut the fuck up. you're a moron, Paul was a better christian than both of us, and it's not unrighteous to make a judgement. You're a blazing fucking idiot if you genuinely think everyone is built equally, but you don't actually believe that, you are just virtue signalling.
 
if you knew how to speak french it would have been better, nor am i in shape to type good english now - it's very late and i was driving for hours- nor my english is sadly perfect. But yes, that was what i meant.
Thats not the problem
I have figured it out from your writing
It was just laziness from my part.
I just didnt pay attention that much to what you have written.
I focused only on one sentence.
 
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shut the fuck up. you're a moron, Paul was a better christian than both of us, and it's not unrighteous to make a judgement. You're a blazing fucking idiot if you genuinely think everyone is built equally, but you don't actually believe that, you are just virtue signalling.
Paul was not a "better Christian" than anyone, all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. I never said anyone about that?
 
The harder you get fucked by life, the harder you have to cope. It’s no coincidence that religious people generally tend to be low IQ, poor, or ugly
 
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shut the fuck up. you're a moron, Paul was a better christian than both of us, and it's not unrighteous to make a judgement. You're a blazing fucking idiot if you genuinely think everyone is built equally, but you don't actually believe that, you are just virtue signalling.
WERE YOU BORN AGAIN?
 
The harder you get fucked by life, the harder you have to cope. It’s no coincidence that religious people generally tend to be low IQ, poor, or ugly
atheism is a faith and its follower are even more believer than follower of any faith who admit to be a believer.
 
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How can you seriously believe in the blackpill and then tell yourself "God is good" and "all part of the plan bro!" :soy:
In this world,there is suffering.God made us mortal because we are only supposed to suffer temporarily.We are like a diamond in the rough
Isaiah 48
10 See, I have refined you, but not as silver;
I have tested you in the furnace of affliction.
 
In this world,there is suffering.God made us mortal because we are only supposed to suffer temporarily.We are like a diamond in the rough
Isaiah 48
10 See, I have refined you, but not as silver;
I have tested you in the furnace of affliction.
whats the point of creating babies that have heart issues and die instantly, how is that a test JFL, God spawnkills you to "test you" :soy:
 
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please. when i was a christian, i was a much better christian than you. now that i am agnostic, i am still probably more holy than you. even this humble fucking brag here i legit wouldn't do myself when i was a christian. you are a moron if you think ive done anything morally wrong by simply not seeing logically how god exists. christianity if anything seems retarded to me now.

Are you telling me I'm going to burn for all eternity because I can't see that God exists, and even when I ask God to reveal himself to me 100x (but nothing happens) I am therefore not worthy of going to heaven?

by this logic god wants stupid people in heaven. Think of all the smart people in hell that only take legitimate evidence as proof, all of them are going to hell, meanwhile all the coping low IQ christian bible thumpers see a butterfly and assume it's a messanger of God and as a result they go to heaven? Jfl heavens going to be filled with a shit ton of stupid people in the afterlife.
Only the most evil will go to the fire for eternity.A righteous athiest is more likely to get in paradise than a sinner that believes in god
 
whats the point of creating babies that have heart issues and die instantly, how is that a test JFL, God spawnkills you to "test you" :soy:
There is no point,that's life
 
I might’ve been an atheist too if I was a hapa
 
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There is no point,that's life
You idiot God made life he designed it that way. If God existed he wouldn't make babies that die after they come out of the fucking womb. It's pointless and completely in his ability to fix without any effort at all.
 
You idiot God made life he designed it that way. If God existed he wouldn't make babies that die after they come out of the fucking womb. It's pointless and completely in his ability to fix without any effort at all.
I think the true reason we are suffering is because we were angels in heaven and sinned and repented.Then we became sperm as punishment.The angels that sinned and did not repent are on earth with us.They are watching us.They are shadow people.They are stuck with us until the day of judgement and the really evil angels like abbadon are in the pit right now waiting to be released to go to war against jesus and the good angels
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