I have respect for electrical engineers

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In my first two years. Us CS niggas and EE majors shared the same brutal math classes and that's when I noticed EE and electronics niggas always suffered more than us. we CS students could Google errors, spam Stack Overflow or just feed the problem to ChatGPT and finish assignments from bed while EE students were in labs at 8 a.m. soldering circuits, chasing parasitic capacitance, and praying their MOSFETs didn’t explode.


My entire final year CS thesis and project. Completed in 2 weeks sprint. My EE friends started their hardware projects six months earlier and were still in the lab at 4 a.m. during finals week trying to meet timing closure on their FPGAs or get a drone to not crash on takeoff while us CS niggas were just fooling around but the part that made them seethe. I've overhead rants at the canteen and at the mess is that median/ average starting salary and CTC for CS graduates is apparently like 1.8-2.2x that of EE graduates despite us putting fraction of the effort

But I respect them electrical engineering . Many of their subjects are legitimately harder, demands real understanding and can’t be faked with an LLM. When the next layoff wave hits the software guys with their fat pay checks are always the ones who get chopped first while the people who can design power electronics or embedded systems keep their jobs. Respect where it’s due you niggas are built different.
 
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thanks but that isn’t gonna save me from the controls n automation finals
Think about the amount of marriage proposals you'd get from British girls after graduating out of Oxford
 
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Think about the amount of marriage proposals you'd get from British girls after graduating out of Oxford
There is not a single cupcake that could revive the pre-electronics me
 
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Electrical engineering has hella aura icl. Iq moggers.
 
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In my first two years. Us CS niggas and EE majors shared the same brutal math classes and that's when I noticed EE and electronics niggas always suffered more than us. we CS students could Google errors, spam Stack Overflow or just feed the problem to ChatGPT and finish assignments from bed while EE students were in labs at 8 a.m. soldering circuits, chasing parasitic capacitance, and praying their MOSFETs didn’t explode.


My entire final year CS thesis and project. Completed in 2 weeks sprint. My EE friends started their hardware projects six months earlier and were still in the lab at 4 a.m. during finals week trying to meet timing closure on their FPGAs or get a drone to not crash on takeoff while us CS niggas were just fooling around but the part that made them seethe. I've overhead rants at the canteen and at the mess is that median/ average starting salary and CTC for CS graduates is apparently like 1.8-2.2x that of EE graduates despite us putting fraction of the effort

But I respect them electrical engineering . Many of their subjects are legitimately harder, demands real understanding and can’t be faked with an LLM. When the next layoff wave hits the software guys with their fat pay checks are always the ones who get chopped first while the people who can design power electronics or embedded systems keep their jobs. Respect where it’s due you niggas are built different.
i dont and id rather get lynched than read that
dalitcels think they are smart but they are still not bulletproof :lul:
 
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Electrical engineering has hella aura icl. Iq moggers.
Another group of engineers. I have a lot of respect for is mechanical engineers like @Foreverbrad a lot of their subjects are brain fuckery


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Another group of engineers. I have a lot of respect for is mechanical engineers like @Foreverbrad a lot of their subjects are brain fuckery


@imontheloose @kababcel
What about hardware engineers?
 
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Another group of engineers. I have a lot of respect for is mechanical engineers like @Foreverbrad a lot of their subjects are brain fuckery


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yeh i cant imagine all that fluid bullshit. its not even a good industry here now since we arent good manufacturers. mech eng was glorified n ppl fell into the trap n now theyre sadly paying 4 it
 
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What about hardware engineers?
Hardware niggas usually have a background in CS or EE. The niggas with EE background generally end up doing more VLSI related stuff while CS folks do the Verilog and coding centric stuff and get paid a bit more, especially in design/verification roles. I'm not sure why that is tho but there's definitely a difference @imontheloose
 
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The concept of putting in more effort and getting paid less triggers me so much.

Btw how is that even possible? Isn’t CS oversaturated as fuck? Why do they get paid 2x more than engineers?
 
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Hardware niggas usually have a background in CS or EE. The niggas with EE background generally end up doing more VLSI related stuff while CS folks do the Verilog and coding centric stuff and get paid a bit more, especially in design/verification roles. I'm not sure why that is tho but there's definitely a difference @imontheloose
My dad is a hardware engineer and he wants me to become one(or any engineer really) despite my severe mental retardation.
 
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Hardware niggas usually have a background in CS or EE. The niggas with EE background generally end up doing more VLSI related stuff while CS folks do the Verilog and coding centric stuff and get paid a bit more, especially in design/verification roles. I'm not sure why that is tho but there's definitely a difference @imontheloose
nah this is just abt skill not degree itself. ee niggas do a lot of em and circuits ovrall instead of uvm n emulation frameworks like cs guys. niche expertise for ee like high speed analogue can easily out earn general dvs
 
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The concept of putting in more effort and getting paid less triggers me so much.

Btw how is that even possible? Isn’t CS oversaturated as fuck? Why do they get paid 2x more than engineers?
It mostly boils down to scalability and margins. Mechanical/electrical engineering doesn't sit in a value chain that produces big profits anymore like it used outside of a few energy giants propped up by commodity cycles, most traditional engineering heavy companies are stagnant.

Their business model is almost always some public utility. Very important but not lucrative like tech where companies practically print money and turn in billions of dollars of profit. They are a good stable job with decent income but not the kind to get massive pays.


CS is indeed very oversaturated at entry level because everyone can learn to code, but the top 10 % who build high leverage systems and have the expertise still print money while EE demand is much steadier and stable but rarely explodes like that. You won't get layed off and become unemployed for months like CS grads but you will generally paid lower.
 
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I wanted to stay doing CS, but electrical engineering just has so much more job opportunities. CS has the potential to pay more, but only if you get lucky and score a good position. Just went with computer engineering instead since its the best of both worlds.

//SubSigma
 
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nah this is just abt skill not degree itself. ee niggas do a lot of em and circuits ovrall instead of uvm n emulation frameworks like cs guys. niche expertise for ee like high speed analogue can easily out earn general dvs
What is high speed analogue? What do they do?
 
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It mostly boils down to scalability and margins. Mechanical/electrical engineering doesn't sit in a value chain that produces big profits anymore like it used outside of a few energy giants propped up by commodity cycles, most traditional engineering heavy companies are stagnant.

Their business model is almost always some public utility. Very important but not lucrative like tech where companies practically print money and turn in billions of dollars of profit. They are a good stable job with decent income but not the kind to get massive pays.


CS is indeed very oversaturated at entry level because everyone can learn to code, but the top 10 % who build high leverage systems and have the expertise still print money while EE demand is much steadier and stable but rarely explodes like that. You won't get layed off and become unemployed for months like CS grads but you will generally paid lower.

How is the CS market in the west? I’ve heard people complain it’s legit impossible to get hired as a new grad.

My cousin quit for this reason and switched to mechanical engineering because he was afraid of the CS job market.

Of course people with 10 years experience have no issue getting work, what is the actual raw unemployment rate for new CS grads?
 
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I wanted to stay doing CS, but electrical engineering just has so much more job opportunities. CS has the potential to pay more, but only if you get lucky and score a good position. Just went with computer engineering instead since its the best of both worlds.

//SubSigma
VLSI pays very well from what I've seen. Nvidia, AMD, Qualcomm, TSMC etc. very high salaries in six figures but they are hard to get into because they are a niche expertise with very few openings from what I've heard VLSI for EE people is kind of like what breaking into Al is for CS grads a high prestige, high-pay niche that only a very small percentage manage to reach. Why don't you try VLSI? @imontheloose
 
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What is high speed analogue? What do they do?
silicon talking to us all at large gigabit rates like usbc n hdmi. if ur phone moves gigabits/s, some1 did high speed analogue to make those 1s and 0s survive the trip. imagine tryna send a morse code with a flashlight to a friend, flash too fast n the light is unreadable, extraneous variables can contribute etc. but them guys will basically deal with that shit but with electricity instead of light.

theyll build the transmitter and receiver plus the clocks themselves. u gotta remember wires arent perfect n at high speed theyre like very echoy pipes; parts of the signal reflect, smear, shrink, and other distortions. its real physics n hand on lab shit. cool topic
 
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VLSI pays very well from what I've seen. Nvidia, AMD, Qualcomm, TSMC etc. very high salaries in six figures but they are hard to get into because they are a niche expertise with very few openings from what I've heard VLSI for EE people is kind of like what breaking into Al is for CS grads a high prestige, high-pay niche that only a very small percentage manage to reach. Why don't you try VLSI? @imontheloose
will consider. i do enjoy circuits i suppose lol. ig long debugging cant be too bad in the future
 
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How is the CS market in the west? I’ve heard people complain it’s legit impossible to get hired as a new grad.

My cousin quit for this reason and switched to mechanical engineering because he was afraid of the CS job market.

Of course people with 10 years experience have no issue getting work, what is the actual raw unemployment rate for new CS grads?
Around 8% for CS grads last time I checked which 2 times that of the average Joe. The problem with CS is that CS degree itself is kind of useless. It doesn't really teach you anything that is industry standard and actually used in companies. Tech is very fast paced industry so if you aren't constantly learning, upskilling yourself to keep up you won't last in this field. To put it bluntly if you expect to coast through your entire uni life just doing the stuff they teach you in uni as CS major and rely on your degree to get you a job then it won't happen. A degree doesn't guarantee employment especially in Tech.
 
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lol im in EE. some classes are definitely very brutal.

and unfortunately the salary thing is true. 10 years ago you could have realistically expected to make $150k+ (USD) , with only <5 years of experience. However due to imported labour, companies no longer need to keep competitive rates, unless you're from a prestigious school, and offer high expertise. Wages have stagnated which is a bit sad.

Should've been born 10 years earlier. However I still like what I am studying.
 
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Jason my man there should be a subforum for you, I come in here expecting low IQ threads
 
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Around 8% for CS grads last time I checked which 2 times that of the average Joe. The problem with CS is that CS degree itself is kind of useless. It doesn't really teach you anything that is industry standard and actually used in companies. Tech is very fast paced industry so if you aren't constantly learning, upskilling yourself to keep up you won't last in this field. To put it bluntly if you expect to coast your entire universe life just doing the stuff they teach you in uni as CS major and rely on your degree to get you a job then it won't happen. A degree doesn't guarantee employment especially in Tech.

Fucking brutal man.

I feel like University in general is useless compared to college/trade school at least here in Canada.

People who go to trade school, for IT network and systems admin for example, just need a 1 year diploma and 6 month coop/internship get hired as soon as they graduate.

To me that is a better path than CS or software where you constantly need to learn new stuff and waste 4 years for a degree that might not even get you a job :dafuckfeels:
 
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I feel like University in general is useless compared to college/trade school at least here in Canada.
i dont understand why we adopted an american university model.

would be much better and more efficient if professional degrees actually tried equipping you with experience.

and the trades thing is true, Im genuinely considering working in the oil field in a non desk role after I graduate.
I know people who are my age who are pulling in 60k+ who arent even journeymen yet. (this is working in the city too)
 
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i dont understand why we adopted an american university model.

would be much better and more efficient if professional degrees actually tried equipping you with experience.

and the trades thing is true, Im genuinely considering working in the oil field in a non desk role after I graduate.
I know people who are my age who are pulling in 60k+ who arent even journeymen yet. (this is working in the city too)

Yup. University here forced you to take tons of useless fucking courses to graduate. If they removed those electives a bachelors degree could take 2 years max.

Also did you do a co-op/internship for EE? If you haven’t you need to do that shit bruh. And you can work engineering jobs at the oil fields and get paid 3x more than the retard drug addict roughneck labourers.
 
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Also did you do a co-op/internship for EE? If you haven’t you need to do that shit bruh. And you can work engineering jobs at the oil fields and get paid 3x more than the retard drug addict roughnecks labourers.

I'm aware, and not yet. I'm only a 2nd year. Job postings should start showing up soon however.
The only way you land a 1st year summer internship is through some insane nepotism, or you're a prodigy. Which I do not have either of.
 
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I'm aware, and not yet. I'm only a 2nd year. Job postings should start showing up soon however.
The only way you land a 1st year summer internship is through some insane nepotism, or you're a prodigy. Which I do not have either of.

Just do it before you graduate. Everyone I know who didn’t do internships is still unemployed with their useless degrees and 30k in debt :lul:
 
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Just do it before you graduate. Everyone I know who didn’t do internships is still unemployed with their useless degrees and 30k in debt :lul:
Oh I'm in no debt lmao, I have like 1/8th indigenous blood in me, I'm a pretendian lmaoo. (if you don't know native bands will pay for my schooling)
I also have good grades, so I profit quite a bit off of attending uni.
 
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written by an EE major
 
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my nigga got this clip 20 minutes ago after joining 2 days ago and is spamming it already.
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Oh I'm in no debt lmao, I have like 1/8th indigenous blood in me, I'm a pretendian lmaoo. (if you don't know native bands will pay for my schooling)
I also have good grades, so I profit quite a bit off of attending uni.

Nigga if your native that guarantees you a job in any field the second your graduate University.

Holy shit I’m jealous :feelswhy: DEI in Canada only happens to natives not other ethnics.
 
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Nigga if your native that guarantees you a job in any field the second your graduate University.

Holy shit I’m jealous :feelswhy: DEI in Canada only happens to natives not other ethnics.
Im "native"

if u saw me irl you wouldnt be able to guess i had any blood.

my dad looks like a descended version of arthur morgan, same pheno. (hes who i got the native status from)

but yah the DEI is nice.
 
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In my first two years. Us CS niggas and EE majors shared the same brutal math classes and that's when I noticed EE and electronics niggas always suffered more than us. we CS students could Google errors, spam Stack Overflow or just feed the problem to ChatGPT and finish assignments from bed while EE students were in labs at 8 a.m. soldering circuits, chasing parasitic capacitance, and praying their MOSFETs didn’t explode.


My entire final year CS thesis and project. Completed in 2 weeks sprint. My EE friends started their hardware projects six months earlier and were still in the lab at 4 a.m. during finals week trying to meet timing closure on their FPGAs or get a drone to not crash on takeoff while us CS niggas were just fooling around but the part that made them seethe. I've overhead rants at the canteen and at the mess is that median/ average starting salary and CTC for CS graduates is apparently like 1.8-2.2x that of EE graduates despite us putting fraction of the effort

But I respect them electrical engineering . Many of their subjects are legitimately harder, demands real understanding and can’t be faked with an LLM. When the next layoff wave hits the software guys with their fat pay checks are always the ones who get chopped first while the people who can design power electronics or embedded systems keep their jobs. Respect where it’s due you niggas are built different.
I'll never regret choosing mech eng, its too fun and complex and full of challenges and hardships but I live for these moments:feelspanties:
 
My Uni has altogether removed Electrical Engineering
Ig that's because people here are too retarded to excel in pure electrical :lul:
 
In my first two years. Us CS niggas and EE majors shared the same brutal math classes and that's when I noticed EE and electronics niggas always suffered more than us. we CS students could Google errors, spam Stack Overflow or just feed the problem to ChatGPT and finish assignments from bed while EE students were in labs at 8 a.m. soldering circuits, chasing parasitic capacitance, and praying their MOSFETs didn’t explode.


My entire final year CS thesis and project. Completed in 2 weeks sprint. My EE friends started their hardware projects six months earlier and were still in the lab at 4 a.m. during finals week trying to meet timing closure on their FPGAs or get a drone to not crash on takeoff while us CS niggas were just fooling around but the part that made them seethe. I've overhead rants at the canteen and at the mess is that median/ average starting salary and CTC for CS graduates is apparently like 1.8-2.2x that of EE graduates despite us putting fraction of the effort

But I respect them electrical engineering . Many of their subjects are legitimately harder, demands real understanding and can’t be faked with an LLM. When the next layoff wave hits the software guys with their fat pay checks are always the ones who get chopped first while the people who can design power electronics or embedded systems keep their jobs. Respect where it’s due you niggas are built different.
I used to think electrical engineering was for cucks
Now I realize EEs cuck every other major and are the biggest IQ moggers
 
Im "native"

if u saw me irl you wouldnt be able to guess i had any blood.

my dad looks like a descended version of arthur morgan, same pheno. (hes who i got the native status from)

but yah the DEI is nice.

Do you have the tribal card? Your life must be easy mode, being white passing but native is like god mode. I knew a kid from my school who was the same and he got into Harvard University :lul:
 
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In my first two years. Us CS niggas and EE majors shared the same brutal math classes and that's when I noticed EE and electronics niggas always suffered more than us. we CS students could Google errors, spam Stack Overflow or just feed the problem to ChatGPT and finish assignments from bed while EE students were in labs at 8 a.m. soldering circuits, chasing parasitic capacitance, and praying their MOSFETs didn’t explode.


My entire final year CS thesis and project. Completed in 2 weeks sprint. My EE friends started their hardware projects six months earlier and were still in the lab at 4 a.m. during finals week trying to meet timing closure on their FPGAs or get a drone to not crash on takeoff while us CS niggas were just fooling around but the part that made them seethe. I've overhead rants at the canteen and at the mess is that median/ average starting salary and CTC for CS graduates is apparently like 1.8-2.2x that of EE graduates despite us putting fraction of the effort

But I respect them electrical engineering . Many of their subjects are legitimately harder, demands real understanding and can’t be faked with an LLM. When the next layoff wave hits the software guys with their fat pay checks are always the ones who get chopped first while the people who can design power electronics or embedded systems keep their jobs. Respect where it’s due you niggas are built different.
ee is autistic but require more brain horsepower.
i can't do that shi
 

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