I lost so much density in my hair

[Tenshi]

fucking crap man that shit sucks, that's why I get sick of these coping threads "will horse cum stop baldness?" no you fucker just hop on fin already

you wait it out, 4 or 6 months and you get fucked. Every new hair cycle you get worse if you're not protected then you wake up and you're slap head.

Now on top of having subhuman hair it's thin too, can't even get one of those retarded zoomer haircuts for ethnics with subhuman hair

 

[sub5inchcel]

brutal hairpill, especially if you have peanut incel skull like me

 

[Deleted member 18694]

I would rather have thin hair than a receding hairline. Both are recoverable but fixing your hairline again is HARD cuz of the blood flow restriction. Diffuse hair is easy AF to fix

 

[Tenshi]

I would rather have thin hair than a receding hairline. Both are recoverable but fixing your hairline again is HARD cuz of the blood flow restriction. Diffuse hair is easy AF to fix

what about both?

jk, my hairline isn't as recessed but it's true, so much harder to regrow it

 

[Deleted member 18694]

what about both?

jk, my hairline isn't as recessed but it's true, so much harder to regrow it

Temple hairline is Hard AF because it's the tightest section that limits blood flow drastically...hence why most kids lose it around temples first. But then again every individual is different and how they react to hairloss where sometimes people just start losing at the back instead.


What makes diffuse thinning easier to fix is the access to blood flow your top scalp has compared to the hairline.

 

[Tenshi]

Temple hairline is Hard AF because it's the tightest section that limits blood flow drastically...hence why most kids lose it around temples first. But then again every individual is different and how they react to hairloss where sometimes people just start losing at the back instead.


What makes diffuse thinning easier to fix is the access to blood flow your top scalp has compared to the hairline.

bro all this blood flow is bs, it's just sensitivity to androgens

you all keep coping with this thing it's 2022. Punch a fork on your forehead and see if it won't bleed

 

[ultra18]

I'm in the same situtaion and tbh i can't decide if losing density or receding hairline is worse

 

[Deleted member 18694]

bro all this blood flow is bs, it's just sensitivity to androgens

you all keep coping with this thing it's 2022. Punch a fork on your forehead and see if it won't bleed

You don't know what you're talking about.


You do realize minoxidil works so well because of the mechanism it has to increase blood flow to the scalp so much?

 

[ChristianChad]

how old are you?

 

[Tenshi]

You don't know what you're talking about.


You do realize minoxidil works so well because of the mechanism it has to increase blood flow to the scalp so much?

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sure, when taken orally on doses to lower blood pressure

hair wise it works by prolonging the anagen phase of the follicles. If it was blood flow the reason why it makes hair grow, other medications that increase blood flow would make hair grow too.

 

[Tenshi]

how old are you?

24

 

[rand anon]

Nah diffuse thinning is much worse than receding imo. Atleast u can fringe fraud with a receding hairline

 

[Deleted member 18694]

sure, when taken orally on doses to lower blood pressure

hair wise it works by prolonging the anagen phase of the follicles. If it was blood flow the reason why it makes hair grow, other medications that increase blood flow would make hair grow too.

They do help but they're not as strong as minoxidil, especially oral minoxidil.


Blood flow is not BS like you claim. If there was no BLOOD flow no kind of anti-androgen would work on your scalp, period.


How do you expect your hair to survive without any blood and nutrients?

 

[Tenshi]

Nah diffuse thinning is much worse than receding imo. Atleast u can fringe fraud with a receding hairline

I've got both

no fringe for my subhuman curly hair

 

[ChristianChad]

Ray Peat diet asap

My grandfather had NW2 with good thickness until the day he died

 

[Tenshi]

They do help but they're not as strong as minoxidil, especially oral minoxidil.


Blood flow is not BS like you claim. If there was no BLOOD flow no kind of anti-androgen would work on your scalp, period.


How do you expect your hair to survive without any blood and nutrients?

I don't, but that's why I know it's bullshit. The hair would have died if that was no blood and nutrients. In fact, not only your hair, your skin would be dying too and you'd get necrosis all over your scalp.

 

[Tenshi]

Ray Peat diet asap

My grandfather had NW2 with good thickness until the day he died

and here we cope...

jk bro, I'll take a look anyways. But I'm diagnosed with MPB, it is really genetics

 

[ChristianChad]

and here we cope...

jk bro, I'll take a look anyways. But I'm diagnosed with MPB, it is really genetics

Genetics... Uh yes, good goy! Ignore the fact that 50 years ago only men in their 40s balded and now there are 25 year olds who bald, it mustn't be environmentally caused but must be genetic! Here goyim, take this castration pill it'll really help your unfortunate genetic disease!

 

[Deleted member 18694]

I don't, but that's why I know it's bullshit. The hair would have died if that was no blood and nutrients. In fact, not only your hair, your skin would be dying too and you'd get necrosis all over your scalp.

"I don't, but that's why I know it's bullshit." huh?

Your face has much easier access to blood than your scalp due to the muscle fibres which supply blood easily. Your top scalp has very little access and especially your frontal hairline because theres no muscle fibres. On top of that the frontal scalp is the tighest which limits blood to get there. Minoxidil rushes an enormous amount of new blood flow there to help them grow

Typical Male pattern baldness they never lose on the sides (for the most part)

The face has tons of blood

For any Anti-androgen whether it be estriol or spiro or RU-8841 you need blood flow otherwise nothing will activate.

 

[rand anon]

I've got both

no fringe for my subhuman curly hair

I have curly hair too. I’m around a Norwood 0.5, stopped it getting worse with fin, no diffuse thinning though. Maybe try a middle part, it’s prob better u hve curly hair, much thicker than straight hair in general

 

[Tenshi]

Genetics... Uh yes, good goy! Ignore the fact that 50 years ago only men in their 40s balded and now there are 25 year olds who bald, it mustn't be environmentally caused but must be genetic! Here goyim, take this castration pill it'll really help your unfortunate genetic disease!

alright bro, at some point in time I was 16 too and thought I was never going to go bald

 

[Deleted member 18694]

I have curly hair too. I’m around a Norwood 0.5, stopped it getting worse with fin, no diffuse thinning though. Maybe try a middle part, it’s prob better u hve curly hair, much thicker than straight hair in general

how old r u

 

[rand anon]

how old r u

22

 

[Tenshi]

"I don't, but that's why I know it's bullshit." huh?

Your face has much easier access to blood than your scalp due to the muscle fibres which supply blood easily. Your top scalp has very little access and especially your frontal hairline because theres no muscle fibres. On top of that the frontal scalp is the tighest which limits blood to get there. Minoxidil rushes an enormous amount of new blood flow there to help them grow

Typical Male pattern baldness they never lose on the sides (for the most part)

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The face has tons of blood

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For any Anti-androgen whether it be estriol or spiro or RU-8841 you need blood flow otherwise nothing will activate.

yeah nigga but don't you get that if it was a lack of blood flow causing the problem (which isn't, the scalp is very vascularized and those veins run not through but above muscles) first fin and dut would have no effect (even oral min) since it's taken systemically and second all other tissue would suffer as well and third it wouldn't bleed af if you cut anywhere in your scalp.

It also doesn't explain why women, who share this same anatomy won't go bald regardless of the supposed low blood flow in those areas. It's bogus.

 

[Tenshi]

I have curly hair too. I’m around a Norwood 0.5, stopped it getting worse with fin, no diffuse thinning though. Maybe try a middle part, it’s prob better u hve curly hair, much thicker than straight hair in general

same norwood too, give or take. I caught it pretty quick so I didn't lose much ground and recovered some.

but yeah, and since curly hair is thicker, or at least appear so (individually my follicles seem pretty fine though) you don't get to see how bad it is. I can pass as someone who's not balding, but if I get my hair wet and comb it I can see how much density I lost. If it was straight it'd be over.

 

[Deleted member 18694]

yeah nigga but don't you get that if it was a lack of blood flow causing the problem (which isn't, the scalp is very vascularized and those veins run not through but above muscles) first fin and dut would have no effect (even oral min) since it's taken systemically and second all other tissue would suffer as well and third it wouldn't bleed af if you cut anywhere in your scalp.

It also doesn't explain why women, who share this same anatomy won't go bald regardless of the supposed low blood flow in those areas. It's bogus.

I'm not implying blood flow is the root cause of an individuals hair loss. There are over 1000 mechanisms that affect hair.


I am saying for any kind of hair growth you need blood flow to get the follicle to rejuvenate with any kind of anti-androgen you run.


Women can easily lose hair...diffuse thinning is a classic female pattern baldness. Seen plently of women with receding hairlines. You're talking like women can't lose hair at all when they in fact do


To deny blood flow is to deny that minoxidil even works. Stating that cutting the scalp open and seeing blood is not an argument. it's an assumption of yours.

I just feel like at this point you're making assumptions and coping or it could be because you are depressed with your hairloss and feel hopeless?

 

[Tenshi]

I'm not implying blood flow is the root cause of an individuals hair loss. There are over 1000 mechanisms that affect hair.


I am saying for any kind of hair growth you need blood flow to get the follicle to rejuvenate with any kind of anti-androgen you run.


Women can easily lose hair...diffuse thinning is a classic female pattern baldness. Seen plently of women with receding hairlines. You're talking like women can't lose hair at all when they in fact do


To deny blood flow is to deny that minoxidil even works.

yeah they can and do, but it's virtually the same androgen-driven process and the mildness of their baldness (rarely or never really going full nw7 or getting fibrosis all over the scalp) just show the nature of how androgens are the culprit

The issue though is that people don't know exactly how minox make hair grow but it's not the blood related proprieties, no proof of that and just like I said, any other med would make hair grow too but I just don't see that.

Sure, improving blood flow can help but not by much as chances are you don't have any issue with getting blood up there because the idea that the scalp is lacking blood flow is absurd.

Have you ever done dermarolling? Even a tiny little puncture superficially in your scalp will cause bleeding

 

[Deleted member 18694]

yeah they can and do, but it's virtually the same androgen-driven process and the mildness of their baldness (rarely or never really going full nw7 or getting fibrosis all over the scalp) just show the nature of how androgens are the culprit

The issue though is that people don't know exactly how minox make hair grow but it's not the blood related proprieties, no proof of that and just like I said, any other med would make hair grow too but I just don't see that.

Sure, improving blood flow can help but not by much as chances are you don't have any issue with getting blood up there because the idea that the scalp is lacking blood flow is absurd.

Have you ever done dermarolling? Even a tiny little puncture superficially in your scalp will cause bleeding

yeah i bought a Dr pen M8 and did 10 rounds of it at 2.5 mm.

I was experimenting with specific dieting, massages and specific topical anti-androgens(not minoxidil)


It's more complicated than that.

 

[Tenshi]

yeah i bought a Dr pen M8 and did 10 rounds of it at 2.5 mm.

I was experimenting with specific dieting, massages and specific anti-androgens(not minoxidil)

it helped me a lot on my hairline, but it's just so painful I don't do it that frequently

but yeah, everything that helps should be done, but usually if you go to a doctor they will ask for blood work to make sure if things like that aren't causing or aggravating the case