i lowk think thumbpulling works

[william.]

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[jasonblackworf]

I would be thumbpulling rn but i got invisalign good and bad

 

[Deleted member 146863]

cut your nuts faggot

 

[Mess]

Tell me, how will 5kg (at most) of pressure, applied for probably 2 minutes, do anything at all?
Dumbass kids.

 

[Deleted member 146863]

Tell me, how will 5kg (at most) of pressure, applied for probably 2 minutes, do anything at all?
Dumbass kids.

it will do something, just not much

 

[william.]

Tell me, how will 5kg (at most) of pressure, applied for probably 2 minutes, do anything at all?
Dumbass kids.

if u only able to do 5 kg ur prob disabled, and I never said 2 minutes a day. To be more clear i think if u are young and do it alot for it to work.

 

[william.]

Dumbass kids.

debunk jordan wood, IK i sound like a retard rn, but still

 

[copercel123]

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I don’t realy care what you think

 

[Mess]

debunk jordan wood, IK i sound like a retard rn, but still

My guy just grew up, had better posture, chewed with his premolars and most likely got a dental appliance.

 

[william.]

My guy just grew up, had better posture, chewed with his premolars and most likely got a dental appliance.

idk if he had dental applince. And what would it be anyway?

better posture and chewing? and your hating on thumbpulling that hard

 

[Mess]

idk if he had dental applince. And what would it be anyway?

Dental appliance, like what the dentist would give you, holy shit.
Probably a palate expander.

better posture and chewing? and your hating on thumbpulling that hard

Dude, do some fucking research before you try to push "thumbpulling".
Posture with fix cranofacial abnormalities (not severe of course).
Chewing with premolars can achieve cw rotation.

 

[william.]

Dental appliance, like what the dentist would give you, holy shit.
Probably a palate expander.

how would that achvice forward growth.

Dude, do some fucking research before you try to push "thumbpulling".
Posture with fix cranofacial abnormalities (not severe of course).
Chewing with premolars can achieve cw rotation.

yh sure im not saying anythinng agaist that, but why wouldnt thumpulling work then?(if u do it enough, with hight force)

 

[Mess]

how would that achvice forward growth.

yh sure im not saying anythinng agaist that, but why wouldnt thumpulling work then?(if u do it enough, with hight force)

I'm done.

 

[william.]

I'm done.

bruh. come with a argument

 

[Mess]

bruh. come with a argument

Dental appliance, like what the dentist would give you, holy shit.
Probably a palate expander.


Dude, do some fucking research before you try to push "thumbpulling".
Posture with fix cranofacial abnormalities (not severe of course).
Chewing with premolars can achieve cw rotation.

Go find me a study showing thumbpullings successes, I'll wait.

 

[william.]

Go find me a study showing thumbpullings successes, I'll wait.

bro there obs isnt a study and you know that. just explain by logic why u think what think.
And u blame a dental appelince (that would do the exact same) with less pressure and more consistent

 

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[ydra19]

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Go find me a study showing thumbpullings successes, I'll wait.

Where did you get the picture for the girl?
DId she get some medical procedures or did her maxilla just grow normally with age

 

[Mushroom]

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Send proof or shut the fuck up

 

[cowmuncher26]

Tell me, how will 5kg (at most) of pressure, applied for probably 2 minutes, do anything at all?
Dumbass kids.

a thumb can exert at least 12kg of force so about 20kg both thumbs combined and if u do it 5 mins per hour its 2 hours of thumbpulling per day

 

[william.]

a thumb can exert at least 12kg of force so about 20kg both thumbs combined and if u do it 5 mins per hour its 2 hours of thumbpulling per day

and im easily 2x stronger than the avrege man

 

[Mess]

a thumb can exert at least 12kg of force so about 20kg both thumbs combined and if u do it 5 mins per hour its 2 hours of thumbpulling per day

Alright, go ahead and get a malocclusion, papa's proud.
Show me actual thumbpulling results that aren't puberty, surgery, steriods or weight loss.
I'm waiting.

 

[cowmuncher26]

Alright, go ahead and get a malocclusion, papa's proud.
Show me actual thumbpulling results that aren't puberty, surgery, steriods or weight loss.
I'm waiting.

i already have one haha, palate is collapsed im getting an expander and if that doesnt work ill try the cope

 

[william.]

Alright, go ahead and get a malocclusion, papa's proud.
Show me actual thumbpulling results that aren't puberty, surgery, steriods or weight loss.
I'm waiting.

Jordan wood, but you are js gonna call it puberty so how the fuck would I prove that in any cases. As ive said i only beliive it works when your young. You bsc saying that it works "right, go ahead and get a malocclusion" if it can cause a malocclusion

 

[Mess]

Jordan wood, but you are js gonna call it puberty so how the fuck would I prove that in any cases. As ive said i only beliive it works when your young.

Don't try to cope with this guy, he grew up, adapted better chewing mechanics and frauds with angles.
Fuck man, you guys are the reason I hate .org these days.
Bunch of kids arguing over made up bullshit designed by people trying to sell courses.

@Volksstaffel You see, bud?

 

[william.]

Don't try to cope with this guy, he grew up, adapted better chewing mechanics and frauds with angles.
Fuck man, you guys are the reason I hate .org these days.
Bunch of kids arguing over made up bullshit designed by people trying to sell courses.

@Volksstaffel You see, bud?

If you claim it can cause malocclusion your saying it can move bone

 

[Mess]

If you claim it can cause malocclusion your saying it can move bone

It can move the teeth, it can move the fucking teeth... Not the fucking skeleton.

 

[william.]

It can move the teeth, it can move the fucking teeth... Not the fucking skeleton.

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theeth is bone. So how would a palate expander work then?

thats what you want if you have crowding

 

[soggra]

My guy just grew up, had better posture, chewed with his premolars and most likely got a dental appliance.

Bro thinks chewing with premolars works but thumbpulling doesn’t work okay sure lmao

 

[Mess]

Bro thinks chewing with premolars works but thumbpulling doesn’t work okay sure lmao

It helps, not really, but it does help. Proper chewing mechanics.

 

[soggra]

It helps, not really, but it does help. Proper chewing mechanics.

If chewing helps then that would mean thumbpulling also helps? Correct?

 

[william.]

It helps, not really, but it does help. Proper chewing mechanics.

while developing mby

answer me

 

[Mess]

theeth is bone. So how would a palate expander work then?

thats what you want if you have crowding

Palate expander is continuous pressure, 24/7, which will continually adapt to the sutures/bones moving.

If chewing helps then that would mean thumbpulling also helps? Correct?

Unless you got some Clark Kent strength, and regular durability, nope.
It's similar to bonesmashing, a complete gimmick.

 

[soggra]

It can move the teeth, it can move the fucking teeth... Not the fucking skeleton.

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When you Thumbpull you don’t your not Thumbpulling your teeth, your thumbpulling the bone. So if you were to cause a malloclusion with thumbpulling that means you’ve moved the bone

 

[soggra]

Unless you got some Clark Kent strength, and regular durability, nope.
It's similar to bonesmashing, a complete gimmick.

Look up wolf’s law. Bonesmashing does work

 

[Mess]

When you Thumbpull you don’t your not Thumbpulling your teeth, your thumbpulling the bone. So if you were to cause a malloclusion with thumbpulling that means you’ve moved the bone

DNI, both of y'all aren't listening to a word I say.

Look up wolf’s law. Bonesmashing does work

Don't even try to get started into this debate.
Just a bunch of bruises and nerve damage, any bone growth you think you recieved is just inflammed tissue.

Average bonesmasher, if anything, it's an iq test:

 

[soggra]

DNI, both of y'all aren't listening to a word I say.


Don't even try to get started into this debate.
Just a bunch of bruises and nerve damage, any bone growth you think you recieved is just inflammed tissue.

Average bonesmasher, if anything, it's an iq test:

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If you have bonesmashed for anything longer than 3 months you will know that it works and gives bone growth. So based off of your response I am assuming you’ve never bonesmashed before.

 

[william.]

Palate expander is continuous pressure, 24/7, which will continually adapt to the sutures/bones moving.

no it does not. and mewing does the same therefor it can be combined with thumpulling

Unless you got some Clark Kent strength, and regular durability, nope.
It's similar to bonesmashing, a complete gimmick

it works its just not a looksmax




DNI, both of y'all aren't listening to a word I say.
I am im directly replying to your points

 

[william.]

DNI, both of y'all aren't listening to a word I say.


Don't even try to get started into this debate.
Just a bunch of bruises and nerve damage, any bone growth you think you recieved is just inflammed tissue.

Average bonesmasher, if anything, it's an iq test:

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u gave up?

 

[Napoleon1800]

Tell me, how will 5kg (at most) of pressure, applied for probably 2 minutes, do anything at all?
Dumbass kids.

I have a question
In theory does thumbpulling work? If you could Constsntly thumbpull hypothetically, would it split the suture?

 

[Mess]

u gave up?

I'm just not bothered arguing with two guys who listen to my argument, flush it out their ears, and rebuttle me with their exact same argument.

 

[Mess]

I have a question
In theory does thumbpulling work? If you could Constsntly thumbpull hypothetically, would it split the suture?

In theory, yeah with enough pressure. But I'm talking 40-50kg (unachievable) of pressure - maybe for 3 hours daily. My worries would be that, as it isn't maintained/contained like how a palate expander is, it could cause assymtery, inhalation/exhalation problems, poor bite etc.

 

[william.]

I'm just not bothered arguing with two guys who listen to my argument, flush it out their ears, and rebuttle me with their exact same argument.

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how did i not listen. im directly responding

 

[Napoleon1800]

In theory, yeah with enough pressure. But I'm talking 40-50kg (unachievable) of pressure - maybe for 3 hours daily. My worries would be that, as it isn't maintained/contained like how a palate expander is, it could cause assymtery, inhalation/exhilation problems, poor bite etc.

Well thing is there is palate expanders u can buy, but they’re not MSE done by an orthodontist

So it would basically be thumbpulling but constantly, but without it being screwed into the palate I think and not being done professionally

 

[Mess]

thumbpulling but constantly

Yes, but with a whole lot more pressure. Traditional palate expanders yield better results, but it's an alright alternative.

 

[TrveShortcel]

it does work in theory but you’d need to apply the pressure 24/7 at the sutures an upward and forward force

 

[Napoleon1800]

Yes, but with a whole lot more pressure. Traditional palate expanders yield better results, but it's an alright alternative.

This can exert a lot more pressure than thumbpulling though? I mean it is just a palate expander without it being screwed into I think? It’s literally an RPE

But you have to give your palate impression to the company and they make it for you and you do everything else yourself, gonna cost you a couple hundred bucks

 

[Napoleon1800]

it does work in theory but you’d need to apply the pressure 24/7 at the sutures an upward and forward force

Thoughts on this as alternative?

 

[Mess]

This can exert a lot more pressure than thumbpulling though?

Yes, these kids are acting like 5 minutes a day of 8kg force will do anything.

 

[william.]

In theory, yeah with enough pressure. But I'm talking 40-50kg (unachievable) of pressure - maybe for 3 hours daily. My worries would be that, as it isn't maintained/contained like how a palate expander is, it could cause assymtery, inhalation/exhalation problems, poor bite etc.

so you agree with me. as i said you have to do it alot, and have open sutuers.
40-50 kg is not what you need. Palate expander works with 100 gram, and a standard facemask is like 500 grams.
Yes they are more consitent, but thumpulling can aswell Forexample: 5 mins every hour for with 10-20 kg(easy if you go gym) and a longer session while watching tv or something.

As stated palatet expander is not constant.

i see your asymetery concern with , but that wasnt the point of my post. Thats a diffrent discussion.

Well thing is there is palate expanders u can buy, but they’re not MSE done by an orthodontist

So it would basically be thumbpulling but constantly, but without it being screwed into the palate I think and not being done professionally

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They are SHIT