I PUT ON 12KG OF MUSCLE IN 6 WEEKS - AN INTRO TO RAD-140

[yex]

10 mg rad140 along with 25 mg mk677 taken orally daily for 8 weeks. Some people say to take it at a certain time but I just took it once daily whenever I remembered to do so, although it was usually towards the evening on most days. If you forget to take it a day it’s not a big deal. You should follow up with PCT for a few weeks later. Too lazy to remember what the actual week count was but check on sarmguide.

RAD140 (Testolone) Review, Results, Dosage | April 2024 - sarmguide

RAD140 is a SARM that is known for its incredible strength, muscle gains, and effective fat loss. Read more about RAD140 and its benefits and side effects.

sarmguide.com

If you are wondering I bought both in liquid form from chemyo

One side effect was mild gyno which was my fault for not taking PCT. No acne or balding for me although I know some people have reported those side effects. If you get gyno, it’s easy to mistake it for water bloat but it shouldn’t be sore. If your chest is sore, STOP THE CYCLE IMMEDIATELY AND GET ON PCT BEFORE ITS TOO LATE. I can’t even touch my chest without pain two years later. I didn’t have enough money to buy pct which is completely my fault. Always buy PCT with your gear. If you can’t afford one don’t buy the other.

Tbh I didn’t even notice the bloat until I looked at pictures from when I did my cycle over a year later, so I have no idea when the bloat disappeared. I would guess it took at least a month to go away. I recommend doing this cycle over a period of time when you don’t see many people, like holiday break or during summer vacation if you are in school.

Honestly I think I would have just pinned testosterone if I could go back in time and had the choice to do it again. Test is safer and slightly more effective than rad imo.

Best of luck with your cycle

Are there any noticeable changes in your face? Better brow bridge mandible etc

 

[FastBananaCEO]

Are there any noticeable changes in your face? Better brow bridge mandible etc

No lol. Don’t know why retards spread that myth. If you’re doing this expecting anything other than body gains, you’re better off not doing it at all

 

[narex054]

Chemyo

However like I told @MaestheticMaso they taste TERRIBLE

M hopping me as well u gave me courage thanks boddy

 

[truecel12]

No lol. Don’t know why retards spread that myth. If you’re doing this expecting anything other than body gains, you’re better off not doing it at all

why didnt you try using tamoxifene for your gyno?

 

[active]

I PUT ON 12KG OF MUSCLE IN A MONTH AND A HALF

​

These were not newbie gains; I had started training 3 months prior and I only put on 2kg of muscle. Pathetic.
I was eating just above maintenance most weeks and cutting back to 1600kcals/day sometimes to debloat because "muh jb appeal".

I was 181.5cm/5'11 60kg/132lbs before I started my cycle. I puked my guts out on New Year's and was sick so I went from 64kg to 60kg in a week.

This is what I looked like before:

Spoiler: Before

A skinny twig.
Don't get me wrong, I still had good appeal to foids my age and younger (<=19). I had never been rejected by a foid in the club since uni started in September.

But let's be honest, who was I gonna fuck with that frame?
Do you think girls looked at me and craved sex with me?

If I've learned one thing over the past few months of having a GF (and a few side hoes ) and from reading the literature, is that
Women want to be DOMINATED in bed.

Who was I going to dominate looking like that? JFL.
I never was able to give my girl an orgasm. We had been having sex for 2 months, so I was getting kinda worried.

I then imagined her getting pounded by a 6'4 gymmaxxed chad and started to get insecure.
Who would she rather get fucked by? Well that tall jacked dude of course.

Any guy or girl who tells you the contrary is DELUSIONAL.


So I took action. I had been making no progress in so long so I looked at Performance-Enhancing Drugs (PEDs).
As any logical person, I wanted the most results with the least side effects.
And for that reason, steroids were off the table.

I researched Selective Androgen Receptor Modulators (SARMs) and in particular RAD-140, as it is often referred to as the most powerful SARM.

Source: naspcenter.org

I took into account the advantages and the drawbacks of RAD-140:

ADVANTAGES​	DRAWBACKS​
Increased muscle growth​	Suppresses natural Testosterone production​
Faster muscle repair​	Little knowledge on long-term side-effects​
Increased metabolic rate -> burns fat like crazy​	Illegal. Not FDA approved. Still a research chemical. Sold as "not for human consumption" to circumvent laws.​
No water retention unlike most other SARMS. Possible to keep hollow cheeks on cycle​	Reports of hair loss. Does not grow back for a number of people (reddit)​
Cheap. £86 for enough RAD-140 and Enclomiphene Citrate for an 8-week cycle​	Acne​
Increased endurance​	Increased aggressiveness and irritability​
	Risk of shutting down natural T production if Post-Cycle Treatment (PCT) is not taken seriously​
	Liver and other organ damage​

​

The advantages were enough to convince me.

However, could I fight back against the side-effects?
The only thing I could do was keep applying Benzoyl Peroxide (massive cope ) to keep the acne under control.
I also planned on taking a Selective Estrogen Receptor Modulator (SERM) throughout my cycle to keep a Test base and fight against the suppression.
The SERM I took was Enclomiphene Citrate (enclo).
I also had Dandelion Root supplements for liver health. Most people recommend NAC though.

How did the cycle go?
I started my cycle on Jan 17th. I started by taking 10mg every day, as that's what most people recommend.
I drastically changed my diet too. I started eating 3500kcal a day with approx 230g of protein and 400g of carbs.

Spoiler: What would be recommended for you?

You can check your Total Daily Energy Expenditure (TDEE) here, and find the best macros for your goals (cutting, maintaining, bulking):
https://tdeecalculator.net/

I also spent 2 hours in the gym, every day.
My split was Push-Pull. Yep. No legs (cope ), no rest days.
The fast muscle repair allowed me to maintain this split throughout my cycle.

Reminder of my day 1 stats:
5'11/181.5cm, 60kg/132lbs, approx 10-12% bf (assessed visually).

First week:

• +4kg. Likely water retention from all the carbs (350g+/day) I started eating.​
• crazy sex drive + a lot of cum​
• Feeling very aggressive​

Second week:

• +1kg. Comfortably sitting at 65kg.​
• Liquidy cum (meaning low sperm count)​
• Low energy​
• Low sex drive​
• Acne getting bad​

The second week is when suppression started to hit hard.
As I have a very horny girlfriend, I could not keep dealing with the sexual side effects.
I started taking enclo (6.25mg every day) on the first day of week 3.

Third week:

• +2kg​
• Cum still quite liquidy, yet less.​
• Cum tastes like "chemicals". Tastes like "it doesn't come from me". Source: my gf​
• Sex drive still not ideal. Erectile Dysfunction (ED) occurred twice this week.​
• Acne still bad, getting worse on forehead. Skin doesn't seem to heal.​
• Wanting to beat anyone up for the stupidest reasons​

By this time, I had ordered Melanotan II (MT2) for two reasons.
First, to get a tan in winter while all these cumskins are paler than my ass.
Second, to increase libido and get rock-solid erections. MT2 is used to produce erections in men with ED. Study: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9679884/

Fourth and fifth weeks:

• +5kg​
• Bumped RAD-140 up to 15mg a day​
• Bumped enclo up to 12.5mg a day on the first day of week 4​
• Acne stabilising. Having to deal with the acne scars from previous weeks.​
• Sex drive better. A few more occurences of ED.​
• Cum still tastes weird according to my gf​
• Spoiler

  even i found it to taste weird ngl
• More respect from dudes in clubs and the gym​
• Started beating my girlfriend ​

Sixth week:

• +2kg​
• Sex drive not good but better.​
• Acne stopped.​
• Still very irritable. My mum pointed it out on week 1 and she hadn't FaceTimed me since. Spoke again on day 5 of sixth week, and we argued jfl. she doesn't want to see or call me anymore ​
• My ED got really bad and girlfriend started to get embarassed and insecure.​
• I therefore decided to stop the cycle early and not go on for the full 8 weeks.​

For the next two weeks I kept taking 12.5mg enclo every day to get my hormones back to pre-cycle levels.
However I'll never know if they actually are because my broke-student ass is not paying £200 to get my bloods checked.

Also, keep in mind I was seeing my gf 3 days a week and having sex around 4 times every time we met up.
Of course my sex drive is altered by my heavy sexual activity.
But anyway, I doubt most of you reading this will have the same problem .

I'm grateful to not have experienced any hair loss.
Most people who experience hair loss from their RAD-140 cycles are either people who got scammed and bought pro-hormones instead of RAD-140, and/or people who were prone to Male Pattern Baldness (MPB) and suffered from it because the increased T from the enclo induced higher amounts of dihydrotestosterone (DHT) conversion.
It is common knowledge that DHT causes hair loss.

According to most experts (i.e. redditors), running a SARM + SERM cycle is the best way to go.

• It effectively fights suppression.​
• You don't run the (very slim) risk of getting shut down.​
• It prevents from losing gains post-cycle.​
• PCT is no longer necessary. No need to suffer the side effects from PCT.​
• You get a temporary (often 2-week) test boost after the cycle while you keep taking enclo.​

I agree.
The suppression did hit me quite hard, but running the enclo alongside my RAD-140 made it a lot less noticeable.
I am 20 days post cycle and I haven't noticed any muscle loss!

I now weigh 74kg/163lbs.
My bf% is still the approximately the same (assessed visually).
I can only assume that I put on 14kg/30lbs of pure muscle, but that would be crazy.
Usually people gain 4-9kg/9-20 lbs of muscle on a 8 week cycle of RAD-140 alone (some run it with MK-677 and get more gains, but they get water retention so no thanks).
I don't want to give false hopes so I'll stay on the safe side and say I gained 12kg/26lbs of muscle in 6 weeks.

Still, this is absolutely crazy.

I went from a pathetically skinny twig to a dude with a respectable physique.
I mainly focused on my shoulders, arms, upper pecs, and lats.
My pecs are still utter shit , but at least they bulge out now. I realised mid-cycle how shit my insertions and genetics were JFL.

Everyone, I mean everyone, has noticed the drastic change.
My mum cried when she saw me on FaceTime on week 6 because of how much I changed LOL.
Dudes have a lot more respect for me; I was clubbing with my girl last night, and while I went to the toilet, some htn tried getting close to her.
As soon as I got back and saw him trying to put his hand on my girl (who hadn't seen him because he was behind her), I started yelling:
"Get the fuck away! Get the FUCK away!"

I kept walking towards him and he had to walk backwards with his hands in front of his chest saying "sorry man. I'm sorry bro". The club was quite crowded so he stepped on people's shoes and they all got mad at him too JFL. I followed his ass for at least 4 meters across the club.
That dude was slightly taller than me so damn did it feel good to know that he feared me.
Anyway he could tell that I mogged him back to the ghettoes of Birmingham or whatever shithole his anglo-cumskin-ass comes from, so he just accepted the BRUTAL mog and chickened out.

People tend to downplay this a lot and shout "muh muscles are male gaze", but actually being respected by other men is arguably as important as appealing to women.
How is your girl supposed to feel safe with you when literally 9/10 dudes on the street could pin your skinny ass to the ground and beat the living shit out of you all while groping your girl with their other hand.

Keep your girls safe guys.
Some men out there are cruel and ruthless. You need to be able to fight back or even better, make them not want to fuck with you in the first place. That's what gymcelling should be for: commanding respect.
...Then you can also dominate your girl in the bedroom and make her know she is submitted to you. That's what they crave!
Even the most femenist-militant women you know go home every day and crave to be brutally fucked by chad.
They want to feel like objects!

Spoiler: PC remark

I say this with great respect to all the females out there. It is just logical from an evolutionarily standpoint for them to want a dominant partner.

Who would your oneitis rather get pounded by?

View attachment 2113742
A 6'2 world-famous supermodel and "PSL GOD"

OR

View attachment 2113743

A gymmaxxed normie
?

​

Enough said.

Back to my journey.
If there's one thing that I enjoyed the most about my RAD-140 cycle, it's that I was able bulk all while keeping hollow cheeks!
The main reason I never really bulked or even lean bulked was because of the water retention caused by the ridiculously high amount of carbs needed.
On RAD-140, my muscles were consuming all those carbs like crazy, so I could be eating 3500kcal a day with 400g of carbs and still be debloated.

Also, I was allowed to have cheat days!!!
Remember this thread?

HELP!! I JUST BINGE ATE 10 COOKIES

THOSE SAINSBURY’S COOKIES! WHAT DO I DO BRO. I HADNT EATEN ANY IN MONTHS. I FUCKED MY DIET UP I FEEL LIKE DYING. I CANT EVEN DO CARDIO TOMORROW BECAUSE I TWISTED MY ANKLE. I’M TAKING RAD140 SO THAT SHOULD HELP A BIT. ILL TAKE FUROSEMIDE TO HELP AGAINST THE BLOAT ILL GET TOMORROW. FUARK I...

looksmax.org

Well, I was perfectly fine. No bloat the next day, no issues or whatsoever!


Yes, sometimes I did get bloated because of my high sodium intake on some days (more food --> more sodium) but I had my furosemide (80mg) on-hand to counter it and reset back to debloated hollow cheeks.

Also, I think I've found a hack to having hollow cheeks all year round, regardless of calorie, carb and sodium intakes. No fake prescriptions needed this time either!
But that's for my next thread...

HERE ARE MY RESULTS:

Spoiler: After

"Muh not that impressive"
Well yeah no shit dawg. I started at 60kg. I was severely underweight and had little to no muscle.
I'll hop on another cycle in a few months and get some real definition this time.


Anyway, I hope you learned something and that you are now about to hop on your first RAD-140 cycle.
If you don't have a girlfriend (ie no need to have a functioning dick for a few weeks) then you have absolutely no reason to not go for it.
Of course, do some more research before considering it.

My last tip is to ONLY buy from reputable sellers. Don't try to save a few bucks by getting your RAD-140 from some unknown vendor. There are a lot of fakes on the market that could really fuck your health up. Spend the extra money, for your safety. This stuff is dangerous!


Ask the all the questions you need. I'll answer what I can.


I wish you the best boys!



-pneumo

You look like bojack before ascension

 

[YasSSIR]

12 kg muscles good joke

 

[Deleted member 122375]

Giga based

I was sceptical on trying RAD-140, but I'm too much of a pussy about risking my hair

I opted out for a safer variant with a SARM stack instead (S4 Anderine, Ostarine and Cardarine).

The only drawbacks are the yellow tinted vision and being overly sensitive to bright lights side effects that come with it.
Might seem seem bothering to some, but I don't mind it all. Last Wednesday it went away when I did a candyflip (Taking LSD + Molly), but then it came right back when I continued the cycle

 

[Lance]

I PUT ON 12KG OF MUSCLE IN A MONTH AND A HALF

​

These were not newbie gains; I had started training 3 months prior and I only put on 2kg of muscle. Pathetic.
I was eating just above maintenance most weeks and cutting back to 1600kcals/day sometimes to debloat because "muh jb appeal".

I was 181.5cm/5'11 60kg/132lbs before I started my cycle. I puked my guts out on New Year's and was sick so I went from 64kg to 60kg in a week.

This is what I looked like before:

Spoiler: Before

A skinny twig.
Don't get me wrong, I still had good appeal to foids my age and younger (<=19). I had never been rejected by a foid in the club since uni started in September.

But let's be honest, who was I gonna fuck with that frame?
Do you think girls looked at me and craved sex with me?

If I've learned one thing over the past few months of having a GF (and a few side hoes ) and from reading the literature, is that
Women want to be DOMINATED in bed.

Who was I going to dominate looking like that? JFL.
I never was able to give my girl an orgasm. We had been having sex for 2 months, so I was getting kinda worried.

I then imagined her getting pounded by a 6'4 gymmaxxed chad and started to get insecure.
Who would she rather get fucked by? Well that tall jacked dude of course.

Any guy or girl who tells you the contrary is DELUSIONAL.


So I took action. I had been making no progress in so long so I looked at Performance-Enhancing Drugs (PEDs).
As any logical person, I wanted the most results with the least side effects.
And for that reason, steroids were off the table.

I researched Selective Androgen Receptor Modulators (SARMs) and in particular RAD-140, as it is often referred to as the most powerful SARM.

Source: naspcenter.org

I took into account the advantages and the drawbacks of RAD-140:

ADVANTAGES​	DRAWBACKS​
Increased muscle growth​	Suppresses natural Testosterone production​
Faster muscle repair​	Little knowledge on long-term side-effects​
Increased metabolic rate -> burns fat like crazy​	Illegal. Not FDA approved. Still a research chemical. Sold as "not for human consumption" to circumvent laws.​
No water retention unlike most other SARMS. Possible to keep hollow cheeks on cycle​	Reports of hair loss. Does not grow back for a number of people (reddit)​
Cheap. £86 for enough RAD-140 and Enclomiphene Citrate for an 8-week cycle​	Acne​
Increased endurance​	Increased aggressiveness and irritability​
	Risk of shutting down natural T production if Post-Cycle Treatment (PCT) is not taken seriously​
	Liver and other organ damage​

​

The advantages were enough to convince me.

However, could I fight back against the side-effects?
The only thing I could do was keep applying Benzoyl Peroxide (massive cope ) to keep the acne under control.
I also planned on taking a Selective Estrogen Receptor Modulator (SERM) throughout my cycle to keep a Test base and fight against the suppression.
The SERM I took was Enclomiphene Citrate (enclo).
I also had Dandelion Root supplements for liver health. Most people recommend NAC though.

How did the cycle go?
I started my cycle on Jan 17th. I started by taking 10mg every day, as that's what most people recommend.
I drastically changed my diet too. I started eating 3500kcal a day with approx 230g of protein and 400g of carbs.

Spoiler: What would be recommended for you?

You can check your Total Daily Energy Expenditure (TDEE) here, and find the best macros for your goals (cutting, maintaining, bulking):
https://tdeecalculator.net/

I also spent 2 hours in the gym, every day.
My split was Push-Pull. Yep. No legs (cope ), no rest days.
The fast muscle repair allowed me to maintain this split throughout my cycle.

Reminder of my day 1 stats:
5'11/181.5cm, 60kg/132lbs, approx 10-12% bf (assessed visually).

First week:

• +4kg. Likely water retention from all the carbs (350g+/day) I started eating.​
• crazy sex drive + a lot of cum​
• Feeling very aggressive​

Second week:

• +1kg. Comfortably sitting at 65kg.​
• Liquidy cum (meaning low sperm count)​
• Low energy​
• Low sex drive​
• Acne getting bad​

The second week is when suppression started to hit hard.
As I have a very horny girlfriend, I could not keep dealing with the sexual side effects.
I started taking enclo (6.25mg every day) on the first day of week 3.

Third week:

• +2kg​
• Cum still quite liquidy, yet less.​
• Cum tastes like "chemicals". Tastes like "it doesn't come from me". Source: my gf​
• Sex drive still not ideal. Erectile Dysfunction (ED) occurred twice this week.​
• Acne still bad, getting worse on forehead. Skin doesn't seem to heal.​
• Wanting to beat anyone up for the stupidest reasons​

By this time, I had ordered Melanotan II (MT2) for two reasons.
First, to get a tan in winter while all these cumskins are paler than my ass.
Second, to increase libido and get rock-solid erections. MT2 is used to produce erections in men with ED. Study: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9679884/

Fourth and fifth weeks:

• +5kg​
• Bumped RAD-140 up to 15mg a day​
• Bumped enclo up to 12.5mg a day on the first day of week 4​
• Acne stabilising. Having to deal with the acne scars from previous weeks.​
• Sex drive better. A few more occurences of ED.​
• Cum still tastes weird according to my gf​
• Spoiler

  even i found it to taste weird ngl
• More respect from dudes in clubs and the gym​
• Started beating my girlfriend ​

Sixth week:

• +2kg​
• Sex drive not good but better.​
• Acne stopped.​
• Still very irritable. My mum pointed it out on week 1 and she hadn't FaceTimed me since. Spoke again on day 5 of sixth week, and we argued jfl. she doesn't want to see or call me anymore ​
• My ED got really bad and girlfriend started to get embarassed and insecure.​
• I therefore decided to stop the cycle early and not go on for the full 8 weeks.​

For the next two weeks I kept taking 12.5mg enclo every day to get my hormones back to pre-cycle levels.
However I'll never know if they actually are because my broke-student ass is not paying £200 to get my bloods checked.

Also, keep in mind I was seeing my gf 3 days a week and having sex around 4 times every time we met up.
Of course my sex drive is altered by my heavy sexual activity.
But anyway, I doubt most of you reading this will have the same problem .

I'm grateful to not have experienced any hair loss.
Most people who experience hair loss from their RAD-140 cycles are either people who got scammed and bought pro-hormones instead of RAD-140, and/or people who were prone to Male Pattern Baldness (MPB) and suffered from it because the increased T from the enclo induced higher amounts of dihydrotestosterone (DHT) conversion.
It is common knowledge that DHT causes hair loss.

According to most experts (i.e. redditors), running a SARM + SERM cycle is the best way to go.

• It effectively fights suppression.​
• You don't run the (very slim) risk of getting shut down.​
• It prevents from losing gains post-cycle.​
• PCT is no longer necessary. No need to suffer the side effects from PCT.​
• You get a temporary (often 2-week) test boost after the cycle while you keep taking enclo.​

I agree.
The suppression did hit me quite hard, but running the enclo alongside my RAD-140 made it a lot less noticeable.
I am 20 days post cycle and I haven't noticed any muscle loss!

I now weigh 74kg/163lbs.
My bf% is still the approximately the same (assessed visually).
I can only assume that I put on 14kg/30lbs of pure muscle, but that would be crazy.
Usually people gain 4-9kg/9-20 lbs of muscle on a 8 week cycle of RAD-140 alone (some run it with MK-677 and get more gains, but they get water retention so no thanks).
I don't want to give false hopes so I'll stay on the safe side and say I gained 12kg/26lbs of muscle in 6 weeks.

Still, this is absolutely crazy.

I went from a pathetically skinny twig to a dude with a respectable physique.
I mainly focused on my shoulders, arms, upper pecs, and lats.
My pecs are still utter shit , but at least they bulge out now. I realised mid-cycle how shit my insertions and genetics were JFL.

Everyone, I mean everyone, has noticed the drastic change.
My mum cried when she saw me on FaceTime on week 6 because of how much I changed LOL.
Dudes have a lot more respect for me; I was clubbing with my girl last night, and while I went to the toilet, some htn tried getting close to her.
As soon as I got back and saw him trying to put his hand on my girl (who hadn't seen him because he was behind her), I started yelling:
"Get the fuck away! Get the FUCK away!"

I kept walking towards him and he had to walk backwards with his hands in front of his chest saying "sorry man. I'm sorry bro". The club was quite crowded so he stepped on people's shoes and they all got mad at him too JFL. I followed his ass for at least 4 meters across the club.
That dude was slightly taller than me so damn did it feel good to know that he feared me.
Anyway he could tell that I mogged him back to the ghettoes of Birmingham or whatever shithole his anglo-cumskin-ass comes from, so he just accepted the BRUTAL mog and chickened out.

People tend to downplay this a lot and shout "muh muscles are male gaze", but actually being respected by other men is arguably as important as appealing to women.
How is your girl supposed to feel safe with you when literally 9/10 dudes on the street could pin your skinny ass to the ground and beat the living shit out of you all while groping your girl with their other hand.

Keep your girls safe guys.
Some men out there are cruel and ruthless. You need to be able to fight back or even better, make them not want to fuck with you in the first place. That's what gymcelling should be for: commanding respect.
...Then you can also dominate your girl in the bedroom and make her know she is submitted to you. That's what they crave!
Even the most femenist-militant women you know go home every day and crave to be brutally fucked by chad.
They want to feel like objects!

Spoiler: PC remark

I say this with great respect to all the females out there. It is just logical from an evolutionarily standpoint for them to want a dominant partner.

Who would your oneitis rather get pounded by?

View attachment 2113742
A 6'2 world-famous supermodel and "PSL GOD"

OR

View attachment 2113743

A gymmaxxed normie
?

​

Enough said.

Back to my journey.
If there's one thing that I enjoyed the most about my RAD-140 cycle, it's that I was able bulk all while keeping hollow cheeks!
The main reason I never really bulked or even lean bulked was because of the water retention caused by the ridiculously high amount of carbs needed.
On RAD-140, my muscles were consuming all those carbs like crazy, so I could be eating 3500kcal a day with 400g of carbs and still be debloated.

Also, I was allowed to have cheat days!!!
Remember this thread?

HELP!! I JUST BINGE ATE 10 COOKIES

THOSE SAINSBURY’S COOKIES! WHAT DO I DO BRO. I HADNT EATEN ANY IN MONTHS. I FUCKED MY DIET UP I FEEL LIKE DYING. I CANT EVEN DO CARDIO TOMORROW BECAUSE I TWISTED MY ANKLE. I’M TAKING RAD140 SO THAT SHOULD HELP A BIT. ILL TAKE FUROSEMIDE TO HELP AGAINST THE BLOAT ILL GET TOMORROW. FUARK I...

looksmax.org

Well, I was perfectly fine. No bloat the next day, no issues or whatsoever!


Yes, sometimes I did get bloated because of my high sodium intake on some days (more food --> more sodium) but I had my furosemide (80mg) on-hand to counter it and reset back to debloated hollow cheeks.

Also, I think I've found a hack to having hollow cheeks all year round, regardless of calorie, carb and sodium intakes. No fake prescriptions needed this time either!
But that's for my next thread...

HERE ARE MY RESULTS:

Spoiler: After

"Muh not that impressive"
Well yeah no shit dawg. I started at 60kg. I was severely underweight and had little to no muscle.
I'll hop on another cycle in a few months and get some real definition this time.


Anyway, I hope you learned something and that you are now about to hop on your first RAD-140 cycle.
If you don't have a girlfriend (ie no need to have a functioning dick for a few weeks) then you have absolutely no reason to not go for it.
Of course, do some more research before considering it.

My last tip is to ONLY buy from reputable sellers. Don't try to save a few bucks by getting your RAD-140 from some unknown vendor. There are a lot of fakes on the market that could really fuck your health up. Spend the extra money, for your safety. This stuff is dangerous!


Ask the all the questions you need. I'll answer what I can.


I wish you the best boys!



-pneumo

This is a textbook example of someone who should not be using PEDs lmao

 

[¿Nero]

I PUT ON 12KG OF MUSCLE IN A MONTH AND A HALF

​

These were not newbie gains; I had started training 3 months prior and I only put on 2kg of muscle. Pathetic.
I was eating just above maintenance most weeks and cutting back to 1600kcals/day sometimes to debloat because "muh jb appeal".

I was 181.5cm/5'11 60kg/132lbs before I started my cycle. I puked my guts out on New Year's and was sick so I went from 64kg to 60kg in a week.

This is what I looked like before:

Spoiler: Before

A skinny twig.
Don't get me wrong, I still had good appeal to foids my age and younger (<=19). I had never been rejected by a foid in the club since uni started in September.

But let's be honest, who was I gonna fuck with that frame?
Do you think girls looked at me and craved sex with me?

If I've learned one thing over the past few months of having a GF (and a few side hoes ) and from reading the literature, is that
Women want to be DOMINATED in bed.

Who was I going to dominate looking like that? JFL.
I never was able to give my girl an orgasm. We had been having sex for 2 months, so I was getting kinda worried.

I then imagined her getting pounded by a 6'4 gymmaxxed chad and started to get insecure.
Who would she rather get fucked by? Well that tall jacked dude of course.

Any guy or girl who tells you the contrary is DELUSIONAL.


So I took action. I had been making no progress in so long so I looked at Performance-Enhancing Drugs (PEDs).
As any logical person, I wanted the most results with the least side effects.
And for that reason, steroids were off the table.

I researched Selective Androgen Receptor Modulators (SARMs) and in particular RAD-140, as it is often referred to as the most powerful SARM.

Source: naspcenter.org

I took into account the advantages and the drawbacks of RAD-140:

ADVANTAGES​	DRAWBACKS​
Increased muscle growth​	Suppresses natural Testosterone production​
Faster muscle repair​	Little knowledge on long-term side-effects​
Increased metabolic rate -> burns fat like crazy​	Illegal. Not FDA approved. Still a research chemical. Sold as "not for human consumption" to circumvent laws.​
No water retention unlike most other SARMS. Possible to keep hollow cheeks on cycle​	Reports of hair loss. Does not grow back for a number of people (reddit)​
Cheap. £86 for enough RAD-140 and Enclomiphene Citrate for an 8-week cycle​	Acne​
Increased endurance​	Increased aggressiveness and irritability​
	Risk of shutting down natural T production if Post-Cycle Treatment (PCT) is not taken seriously​
	Liver and other organ damage​

​

The advantages were enough to convince me.

However, could I fight back against the side-effects?
The only thing I could do was keep applying Benzoyl Peroxide (massive cope ) to keep the acne under control.
I also planned on taking a Selective Estrogen Receptor Modulator (SERM) throughout my cycle to keep a Test base and fight against the suppression.
The SERM I took was Enclomiphene Citrate (enclo).
I also had Dandelion Root supplements for liver health. Most people recommend NAC though.

How did the cycle go?
I started my cycle on Jan 17th. I started by taking 10mg every day, as that's what most people recommend.
I drastically changed my diet too. I started eating 3500kcal a day with approx 230g of protein and 400g of carbs.

Spoiler: What would be recommended for you?

You can check your Total Daily Energy Expenditure (TDEE) here, and find the best macros for your goals (cutting, maintaining, bulking):
https://tdeecalculator.net/

I also spent 2 hours in the gym, every day.
My split was Push-Pull. Yep. No legs (cope ), no rest days.
The fast muscle repair allowed me to maintain this split throughout my cycle.

Reminder of my day 1 stats:
5'11/181.5cm, 60kg/132lbs, approx 10-12% bf (assessed visually).

First week:

• +4kg. Likely water retention from all the carbs (350g+/day) I started eating.​
• crazy sex drive + a lot of cum​
• Feeling very aggressive​

Second week:

• +1kg. Comfortably sitting at 65kg.​
• Liquidy cum (meaning low sperm count)​
• Low energy​
• Low sex drive​
• Acne getting bad​

The second week is when suppression started to hit hard.
As I have a very horny girlfriend, I could not keep dealing with the sexual side effects.
I started taking enclo (6.25mg every day) on the first day of week 3.

Third week:

• +2kg​
• Cum still quite liquidy, yet less.​
• Cum tastes like "chemicals". Tastes like "it doesn't come from me". Source: my gf​
• Sex drive still not ideal. Erectile Dysfunction (ED) occurred twice this week.​
• Acne still bad, getting worse on forehead. Skin doesn't seem to heal.​
• Wanting to beat anyone up for the stupidest reasons​

By this time, I had ordered Melanotan II (MT2) for two reasons.
First, to get a tan in winter while all these cumskins are paler than my ass.
Second, to increase libido and get rock-solid erections. MT2 is used to produce erections in men with ED. Study: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9679884/

Fourth and fifth weeks:

• +5kg​
• Bumped RAD-140 up to 15mg a day​
• Bumped enclo up to 12.5mg a day on the first day of week 4​
• Acne stabilising. Having to deal with the acne scars from previous weeks.​
• Sex drive better. A few more occurences of ED.​
• Cum still tastes weird according to my gf​
• Spoiler

  even i found it to taste weird ngl
• More respect from dudes in clubs and the gym​
• Started beating my girlfriend ​

Sixth week:

• +2kg​
• Sex drive not good but better.​
• Acne stopped.​
• Still very irritable. My mum pointed it out on week 1 and she hadn't FaceTimed me since. Spoke again on day 5 of sixth week, and we argued jfl. she doesn't want to see or call me anymore ​
• My ED got really bad and girlfriend started to get embarassed and insecure.​
• I therefore decided to stop the cycle early and not go on for the full 8 weeks.​

For the next two weeks I kept taking 12.5mg enclo every day to get my hormones back to pre-cycle levels.
However I'll never know if they actually are because my broke-student ass is not paying £200 to get my bloods checked.

Also, keep in mind I was seeing my gf 3 days a week and having sex around 4 times every time we met up.
Of course my sex drive is altered by my heavy sexual activity.
But anyway, I doubt most of you reading this will have the same problem .

I'm grateful to not have experienced any hair loss.
Most people who experience hair loss from their RAD-140 cycles are either people who got scammed and bought pro-hormones instead of RAD-140, and/or people who were prone to Male Pattern Baldness (MPB) and suffered from it because the increased T from the enclo induced higher amounts of dihydrotestosterone (DHT) conversion.
It is common knowledge that DHT causes hair loss.

According to most experts (i.e. redditors), running a SARM + SERM cycle is the best way to go.

• It effectively fights suppression.​
• You don't run the (very slim) risk of getting shut down.​
• It prevents from losing gains post-cycle.​
• PCT is no longer necessary. No need to suffer the side effects from PCT.​
• You get a temporary (often 2-week) test boost after the cycle while you keep taking enclo.​

I agree.
The suppression did hit me quite hard, but running the enclo alongside my RAD-140 made it a lot less noticeable.
I am 20 days post cycle and I haven't noticed any muscle loss!

I now weigh 74kg/163lbs.
My bf% is still the approximately the same (assessed visually).
I can only assume that I put on 14kg/30lbs of pure muscle, but that would be crazy.
Usually people gain 4-9kg/9-20 lbs of muscle on a 8 week cycle of RAD-140 alone (some run it with MK-677 and get more gains, but they get water retention so no thanks).
I don't want to give false hopes so I'll stay on the safe side and say I gained 12kg/26lbs of muscle in 6 weeks.

Still, this is absolutely crazy.

I went from a pathetically skinny twig to a dude with a respectable physique.
I mainly focused on my shoulders, arms, upper pecs, and lats.
My pecs are still utter shit , but at least they bulge out now. I realised mid-cycle how shit my insertions and genetics were JFL.

Everyone, I mean everyone, has noticed the drastic change.
My mum cried when she saw me on FaceTime on week 6 because of how much I changed LOL.
Dudes have a lot more respect for me; I was clubbing with my girl last night, and while I went to the toilet, some htn tried getting close to her.
As soon as I got back and saw him trying to put his hand on my girl (who hadn't seen him because he was behind her), I started yelling:
"Get the fuck away! Get the FUCK away!"

I kept walking towards him and he had to walk backwards with his hands in front of his chest saying "sorry man. I'm sorry bro". The club was quite crowded so he stepped on people's shoes and they all got mad at him too JFL. I followed his ass for at least 4 meters across the club.
That dude was slightly taller than me so damn did it feel good to know that he feared me.
Anyway he could tell that I mogged him back to the ghettoes of Birmingham or whatever shithole his anglo-cumskin-ass comes from, so he just accepted the BRUTAL mog and chickened out.

People tend to downplay this a lot and shout "muh muscles are male gaze", but actually being respected by other men is arguably as important as appealing to women.
How is your girl supposed to feel safe with you when literally 9/10 dudes on the street could pin your skinny ass to the ground and beat the living shit out of you all while groping your girl with their other hand.

Keep your girls safe guys.
Some men out there are cruel and ruthless. You need to be able to fight back or even better, make them not want to fuck with you in the first place. That's what gymcelling should be for: commanding respect.
...Then you can also dominate your girl in the bedroom and make her know she is submitted to you. That's what they crave!
Even the most femenist-militant women you know go home every day and crave to be brutally fucked by chad.
They want to feel like objects!

Spoiler: PC remark

I say this with great respect to all the females out there. It is just logical from an evolutionarily standpoint for them to want a dominant partner.

Who would your oneitis rather get pounded by?

View attachment 2113742
A 6'2 world-famous supermodel and "PSL GOD"

OR

View attachment 2113743

A gymmaxxed normie
?

​

Enough said.

Back to my journey.
If there's one thing that I enjoyed the most about my RAD-140 cycle, it's that I was able bulk all while keeping hollow cheeks!
The main reason I never really bulked or even lean bulked was because of the water retention caused by the ridiculously high amount of carbs needed.
On RAD-140, my muscles were consuming all those carbs like crazy, so I could be eating 3500kcal a day with 400g of carbs and still be debloated.

Also, I was allowed to have cheat days!!!
Remember this thread?

HELP!! I JUST BINGE ATE 10 COOKIES

THOSE SAINSBURY’S COOKIES! WHAT DO I DO BRO. I HADNT EATEN ANY IN MONTHS. I FUCKED MY DIET UP I FEEL LIKE DYING. I CANT EVEN DO CARDIO TOMORROW BECAUSE I TWISTED MY ANKLE. I’M TAKING RAD140 SO THAT SHOULD HELP A BIT. ILL TAKE FUROSEMIDE TO HELP AGAINST THE BLOAT ILL GET TOMORROW. FUARK I...

looksmax.org

Well, I was perfectly fine. No bloat the next day, no issues or whatsoever!


Yes, sometimes I did get bloated because of my high sodium intake on some days (more food --> more sodium) but I had my furosemide (80mg) on-hand to counter it and reset back to debloated hollow cheeks.

Also, I think I've found a hack to having hollow cheeks all year round, regardless of calorie, carb and sodium intakes. No fake prescriptions needed this time either!
But that's for my next thread...

HERE ARE MY RESULTS:

Spoiler: After

"Muh not that impressive"
Well yeah no shit dawg. I started at 60kg. I was severely underweight and had little to no muscle.
I'll hop on another cycle in a few months and get some real definition this time.


Anyway, I hope you learned something and that you are now about to hop on your first RAD-140 cycle.
If you don't have a girlfriend (ie no need to have a functioning dick for a few weeks) then you have absolutely no reason to not go for it.
Of course, do some more research before considering it.

My last tip is to ONLY buy from reputable sellers. Don't try to save a few bucks by getting your RAD-140 from some unknown vendor. There are a lot of fakes on the market that could really fuck your health up. Spend the extra money, for your safety. This stuff is dangerous!


Ask the all the questions you need. I'll answer what I can.


I wish you the best boys!



-pneumo

Thanks pneumo

 

[mamtoff]

I PUT ON 12KG OF MUSCLE IN A MONTH AND A HALF

​

These were not newbie gains; I had started training 3 months prior and I only put on 2kg of muscle. Pathetic.
I was eating just above maintenance most weeks and cutting back to 1600kcals/day sometimes to debloat because "muh jb appeal".

I was 181.5cm/5'11 60kg/132lbs before I started my cycle. I puked my guts out on New Year's and was sick so I went from 64kg to 60kg in a week.

This is what I looked like before:

Spoiler: Before

A skinny twig.
Don't get me wrong, I still had good appeal to foids my age and younger (<=19). I had never been rejected by a foid in the club since uni started in September.

But let's be honest, who was I gonna fuck with that frame?
Do you think girls looked at me and craved sex with me?

If I've learned one thing over the past few months of having a GF (and a few side hoes ) and from reading the literature, is that
Women want to be DOMINATED in bed.

Who was I going to dominate looking like that? JFL.
I never was able to give my girl an orgasm. We had been having sex for 2 months, so I was getting kinda worried.

I then imagined her getting pounded by a 6'4 gymmaxxed chad and started to get insecure.
Who would she rather get fucked by? Well that tall jacked dude of course.

Any guy or girl who tells you the contrary is DELUSIONAL.


So I took action. I had been making no progress in so long so I looked at Performance-Enhancing Drugs (PEDs).
As any logical person, I wanted the most results with the least side effects.
And for that reason, steroids were off the table.

I researched Selective Androgen Receptor Modulators (SARMs) and in particular RAD-140, as it is often referred to as the most powerful SARM.

Source: naspcenter.org

I took into account the advantages and the drawbacks of RAD-140:

ADVANTAGES​	DRAWBACKS​
Increased muscle growth​	Suppresses natural Testosterone production​
Faster muscle repair​	Little knowledge on long-term side-effects​
Increased metabolic rate -> burns fat like crazy​	Illegal. Not FDA approved. Still a research chemical. Sold as "not for human consumption" to circumvent laws.​
No water retention unlike most other SARMS. Possible to keep hollow cheeks on cycle​	Reports of hair loss. Does not grow back for a number of people (reddit)​
Cheap. £86 for enough RAD-140 and Enclomiphene Citrate for an 8-week cycle​	Acne​
Increased endurance​	Increased aggressiveness and irritability​
	Risk of shutting down natural T production if Post-Cycle Treatment (PCT) is not taken seriously​
	Liver and other organ damage​

​

The advantages were enough to convince me.

However, could I fight back against the side-effects?
The only thing I could do was keep applying Benzoyl Peroxide (massive cope ) to keep the acne under control.
I also planned on taking a Selective Estrogen Receptor Modulator (SERM) throughout my cycle to keep a Test base and fight against the suppression.
The SERM I took was Enclomiphene Citrate (enclo).
I also had Dandelion Root supplements for liver health. Most people recommend NAC though.

How did the cycle go?
I started my cycle on Jan 17th. I started by taking 10mg every day, as that's what most people recommend.
I drastically changed my diet too. I started eating 3500kcal a day with approx 230g of protein and 400g of carbs.

Spoiler: What would be recommended for you?

You can check your Total Daily Energy Expenditure (TDEE) here, and find the best macros for your goals (cutting, maintaining, bulking):
https://tdeecalculator.net/

I also spent 2 hours in the gym, every day.
My split was Push-Pull. Yep. No legs (cope ), no rest days.
The fast muscle repair allowed me to maintain this split throughout my cycle.

Reminder of my day 1 stats:
5'11/181.5cm, 60kg/132lbs, approx 10-12% bf (assessed visually).

First week:

• +4kg. Likely water retention from all the carbs (350g+/day) I started eating.​
• crazy sex drive + a lot of cum​
• Feeling very aggressive​

Second week:

• +1kg. Comfortably sitting at 65kg.​
• Liquidy cum (meaning low sperm count)​
• Low energy​
• Low sex drive​
• Acne getting bad​

The second week is when suppression started to hit hard.
As I have a very horny girlfriend, I could not keep dealing with the sexual side effects.
I started taking enclo (6.25mg every day) on the first day of week 3.

Third week:

• +2kg​
• Cum still quite liquidy, yet less.​
• Cum tastes like "chemicals". Tastes like "it doesn't come from me". Source: my gf​
• Sex drive still not ideal. Erectile Dysfunction (ED) occurred twice this week.​
• Acne still bad, getting worse on forehead. Skin doesn't seem to heal.​
• Wanting to beat anyone up for the stupidest reasons​

By this time, I had ordered Melanotan II (MT2) for two reasons.
First, to get a tan in winter while all these cumskins are paler than my ass.
Second, to increase libido and get rock-solid erections. MT2 is used to produce erections in men with ED. Study: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9679884/

Fourth and fifth weeks:

• +5kg​
• Bumped RAD-140 up to 15mg a day​
• Bumped enclo up to 12.5mg a day on the first day of week 4​
• Acne stabilising. Having to deal with the acne scars from previous weeks.​
• Sex drive better. A few more occurences of ED.​
• Cum still tastes weird according to my gf​
• Spoiler

  even i found it to taste weird ngl
• More respect from dudes in clubs and the gym​
• Started beating my girlfriend ​

Sixth week:

• +2kg​
• Sex drive not good but better.​
• Acne stopped.​
• Still very irritable. My mum pointed it out on week 1 and she hadn't FaceTimed me since. Spoke again on day 5 of sixth week, and we argued jfl. she doesn't want to see or call me anymore ​
• My ED got really bad and girlfriend started to get embarassed and insecure.​
• I therefore decided to stop the cycle early and not go on for the full 8 weeks.​

For the next two weeks I kept taking 12.5mg enclo every day to get my hormones back to pre-cycle levels.
However I'll never know if they actually are because my broke-student ass is not paying £200 to get my bloods checked.

Also, keep in mind I was seeing my gf 3 days a week and having sex around 4 times every time we met up.
Of course my sex drive is altered by my heavy sexual activity.
But anyway, I doubt most of you reading this will have the same problem .

I'm grateful to not have experienced any hair loss.
Most people who experience hair loss from their RAD-140 cycles are either people who got scammed and bought pro-hormones instead of RAD-140, and/or people who were prone to Male Pattern Baldness (MPB) and suffered from it because the increased T from the enclo induced higher amounts of dihydrotestosterone (DHT) conversion.
It is common knowledge that DHT causes hair loss.

According to most experts (i.e. redditors), running a SARM + SERM cycle is the best way to go.

• It effectively fights suppression.​
• You don't run the (very slim) risk of getting shut down.​
• It prevents from losing gains post-cycle.​
• PCT is no longer necessary. No need to suffer the side effects from PCT.​
• You get a temporary (often 2-week) test boost after the cycle while you keep taking enclo.​

I agree.
The suppression did hit me quite hard, but running the enclo alongside my RAD-140 made it a lot less noticeable.
I am 20 days post cycle and I haven't noticed any muscle loss!

I now weigh 74kg/163lbs.
My bf% is still the approximately the same (assessed visually).
I can only assume that I put on 14kg/30lbs of pure muscle, but that would be crazy.
Usually people gain 4-9kg/9-20 lbs of muscle on a 8 week cycle of RAD-140 alone (some run it with MK-677 and get more gains, but they get water retention so no thanks).
I don't want to give false hopes so I'll stay on the safe side and say I gained 12kg/26lbs of muscle in 6 weeks.

Still, this is absolutely crazy.

I went from a pathetically skinny twig to a dude with a respectable physique.
I mainly focused on my shoulders, arms, upper pecs, and lats.
My pecs are still utter shit , but at least they bulge out now. I realised mid-cycle how shit my insertions and genetics were JFL.

Everyone, I mean everyone, has noticed the drastic change.
My mum cried when she saw me on FaceTime on week 6 because of how much I changed LOL.
Dudes have a lot more respect for me; I was clubbing with my girl last night, and while I went to the toilet, some htn tried getting close to her.
As soon as I got back and saw him trying to put his hand on my girl (who hadn't seen him because he was behind her), I started yelling:
"Get the fuck away! Get the FUCK away!"

I kept walking towards him and he had to walk backwards with his hands in front of his chest saying "sorry man. I'm sorry bro". The club was quite crowded so he stepped on people's shoes and they all got mad at him too JFL. I followed his ass for at least 4 meters across the club.
That dude was slightly taller than me so damn did it feel good to know that he feared me.
Anyway he could tell that I mogged him back to the ghettoes of Birmingham or whatever shithole his anglo-cumskin-ass comes from, so he just accepted the BRUTAL mog and chickened out.

People tend to downplay this a lot and shout "muh muscles are male gaze", but actually being respected by other men is arguably as important as appealing to women.
How is your girl supposed to feel safe with you when literally 9/10 dudes on the street could pin your skinny ass to the ground and beat the living shit out of you all while groping your girl with their other hand.

Keep your girls safe guys.
Some men out there are cruel and ruthless. You need to be able to fight back or even better, make them not want to fuck with you in the first place. That's what gymcelling should be for: commanding respect.
...Then you can also dominate your girl in the bedroom and make her know she is submitted to you. That's what they crave!
Even the most femenist-militant women you know go home every day and crave to be brutally fucked by chad.
They want to feel like objects!

Spoiler: PC remark

I say this with great respect to all the females out there. It is just logical from an evolutionarily standpoint for them to want a dominant partner.

Who would your oneitis rather get pounded by?

View attachment 2113742
A 6'2 world-famous supermodel and "PSL GOD"

OR

View attachment 2113743

A gymmaxxed normie
?

​

Enough said.

Back to my journey.
If there's one thing that I enjoyed the most about my RAD-140 cycle, it's that I was able bulk all while keeping hollow cheeks!
The main reason I never really bulked or even lean bulked was because of the water retention caused by the ridiculously high amount of carbs needed.
On RAD-140, my muscles were consuming all those carbs like crazy, so I could be eating 3500kcal a day with 400g of carbs and still be debloated.

Also, I was allowed to have cheat days!!!
Remember this thread?

HELP!! I JUST BINGE ATE 10 COOKIES

THOSE SAINSBURY’S COOKIES! WHAT DO I DO BRO. I HADNT EATEN ANY IN MONTHS. I FUCKED MY DIET UP I FEEL LIKE DYING. I CANT EVEN DO CARDIO TOMORROW BECAUSE I TWISTED MY ANKLE. I’M TAKING RAD140 SO THAT SHOULD HELP A BIT. ILL TAKE FUROSEMIDE TO HELP AGAINST THE BLOAT ILL GET TOMORROW. FUARK I...

looksmax.org

Well, I was perfectly fine. No bloat the next day, no issues or whatsoever!


Yes, sometimes I did get bloated because of my high sodium intake on some days (more food --> more sodium) but I had my furosemide (80mg) on-hand to counter it and reset back to debloated hollow cheeks.

Also, I think I've found a hack to having hollow cheeks all year round, regardless of calorie, carb and sodium intakes. No fake prescriptions needed this time either!
But that's for my next thread...

HERE ARE MY RESULTS:

Spoiler: After

"Muh not that impressive"
Well yeah no shit dawg. I started at 60kg. I was severely underweight and had little to no muscle.
I'll hop on another cycle in a few months and get some real definition this time.


Anyway, I hope you learned something and that you are now about to hop on your first RAD-140 cycle.
If you don't have a girlfriend (ie no need to have a functioning dick for a few weeks) then you have absolutely no reason to not go for it.
Of course, do some more research before considering it.

My last tip is to ONLY buy from reputable sellers. Don't try to save a few bucks by getting your RAD-140 from some unknown vendor. There are a lot of fakes on the market that could really fuck your health up. Spend the extra money, for your safety. This stuff is dangerous!


Ask the all the questions you need. I'll answer what I can.


I wish you the best boys!



-pneumo

Great thread, I would hop on it if I wasn’t too young to stay without test. Maybe in a couple years thanks for the idea

 

[haavoc]

where are you now pneumo?

 

[Evgeniy291]

These were not newbie gains; I had started training 3 months prior and I only put on 2kg of muscle. P

So in other words these are newbie gains?

 

[SndzBP]

​

These were not newbie gains; I had started training 3 months prior and I only put on 2kg of muscle. Pathetic.

“Not newbie gains” and “started training 3 months prior” newbie gains can last over a year

 

[Evgeniy291]

“Not newbie gains” and “started training 3 months prior” newbie gains can last over a year

Newbie gains dont last a particular amount of time, they last until you get a certain amount of muscle gain

 

[SndzBP]

Newbie gains dont last a particular amount of time, they last until you get a certain amount of muscle gain

And 2kg isn’t it

 

[fuktheclout]

I PUT ON 12KG OF MUSCLE IN A MONTH AND A HALF

​

These were not newbie gains; I had started training 3 months prior and I only put on 2kg of muscle. Pathetic.
I was eating just above maintenance most weeks and cutting back to 1600kcals/day sometimes to debloat because "muh jb appeal".

I was 181.5cm/5'11 60kg/132lbs before I started my cycle. I puked my guts out on New Year's and was sick so I went from 64kg to 60kg in a week.

This is what I looked like before:

Spoiler: Before

A skinny twig.
Don't get me wrong, I still had good appeal to foids my age and younger (<=19). I had never been rejected by a foid in the club since uni started in September.

But let's be honest, who was I gonna fuck with that frame?
Do you think girls looked at me and craved sex with me?

If I've learned one thing over the past few months of having a GF (and a few side hoes ) and from reading the literature, is that
Women want to be DOMINATED in bed.

Who was I going to dominate looking like that? JFL.
I never was able to give my girl an orgasm. We had been having sex for 2 months, so I was getting kinda worried.

I then imagined her getting pounded by a 6'4 gymmaxxed chad and started to get insecure.
Who would she rather get fucked by? Well that tall jacked dude of course.

Any guy or girl who tells you the contrary is DELUSIONAL.


So I took action. I had been making no progress in so long so I looked at Performance-Enhancing Drugs (PEDs).
As any logical person, I wanted the most results with the least side effects.
And for that reason, steroids were off the table.

I researched Selective Androgen Receptor Modulators (SARMs) and in particular RAD-140, as it is often referred to as the most powerful SARM.

Source: naspcenter.org

I took into account the advantages and the drawbacks of RAD-140:

ADVANTAGES​	DRAWBACKS​
Increased muscle growth​	Suppresses natural Testosterone production​
Faster muscle repair​	Little knowledge on long-term side-effects​
Increased metabolic rate -> burns fat like crazy​	Illegal. Not FDA approved. Still a research chemical. Sold as "not for human consumption" to circumvent laws.​
No water retention unlike most other SARMS. Possible to keep hollow cheeks on cycle​	Reports of hair loss. Does not grow back for a number of people (reddit)​
Cheap. £86 for enough RAD-140 and Enclomiphene Citrate for an 8-week cycle​	Acne​
Increased endurance​	Increased aggressiveness and irritability​
	Risk of shutting down natural T production if Post-Cycle Treatment (PCT) is not taken seriously​
	Liver and other organ damage​

​

The advantages were enough to convince me.

However, could I fight back against the side-effects?
The only thing I could do was keep applying Benzoyl Peroxide (massive cope ) to keep the acne under control.
I also planned on taking a Selective Estrogen Receptor Modulator (SERM) throughout my cycle to keep a Test base and fight against the suppression.
The SERM I took was Enclomiphene Citrate (enclo).
I also had Dandelion Root supplements for liver health. Most people recommend NAC though.

How did the cycle go?
I started my cycle on Jan 17th. I started by taking 10mg every day, as that's what most people recommend.
I drastically changed my diet too. I started eating 3500kcal a day with approx 230g of protein and 400g of carbs.

Spoiler: What would be recommended for you?

You can check your Total Daily Energy Expenditure (TDEE) here, and find the best macros for your goals (cutting, maintaining, bulking):
https://tdeecalculator.net/

I also spent 2 hours in the gym, every day.
My split was Push-Pull. Yep. No legs (cope ), no rest days.
The fast muscle repair allowed me to maintain this split throughout my cycle.

Reminder of my day 1 stats:
5'11/181.5cm, 60kg/132lbs, approx 10-12% bf (assessed visually).

First week:

• +4kg. Likely water retention from all the carbs (350g+/day) I started eating.​
• crazy sex drive + a lot of cum​
• Feeling very aggressive​

Second week:

• +1kg. Comfortably sitting at 65kg.​
• Liquidy cum (meaning low sperm count)​
• Low energy​
• Low sex drive​
• Acne getting bad​

The second week is when suppression started to hit hard.
As I have a very horny girlfriend, I could not keep dealing with the sexual side effects.
I started taking enclo (6.25mg every day) on the first day of week 3.

Third week:

• +2kg​
• Cum still quite liquidy, yet less.​
• Cum tastes like "chemicals". Tastes like "it doesn't come from me". Source: my gf​
• Sex drive still not ideal. Erectile Dysfunction (ED) occurred twice this week.​
• Acne still bad, getting worse on forehead. Skin doesn't seem to heal.​
• Wanting to beat anyone up for the stupidest reasons​

By this time, I had ordered Melanotan II (MT2) for two reasons.
First, to get a tan in winter while all these cumskins are paler than my ass.
Second, to increase libido and get rock-solid erections. MT2 is used to produce erections in men with ED. Study: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9679884/

Fourth and fifth weeks:

• +5kg​
• Bumped RAD-140 up to 15mg a day​
• Bumped enclo up to 12.5mg a day on the first day of week 4​
• Acne stabilising. Having to deal with the acne scars from previous weeks.​
• Sex drive better. A few more occurences of ED.​
• Cum still tastes weird according to my gf​
• Spoiler

  even i found it to taste weird ngl
• More respect from dudes in clubs and the gym​
• Started beating my girlfriend ​

Sixth week:

• +2kg​
• Sex drive not good but better.​
• Acne stopped.​
• Still very irritable. My mum pointed it out on week 1 and she hadn't FaceTimed me since. Spoke again on day 5 of sixth week, and we argued jfl. she doesn't want to see or call me anymore ​
• My ED got really bad and girlfriend started to get embarassed and insecure.​
• I therefore decided to stop the cycle early and not go on for the full 8 weeks.​

For the next two weeks I kept taking 12.5mg enclo every day to get my hormones back to pre-cycle levels.
However I'll never know if they actually are because my broke-student ass is not paying £200 to get my bloods checked.

Also, keep in mind I was seeing my gf 3 days a week and having sex around 4 times every time we met up.
Of course my sex drive is altered by my heavy sexual activity.
But anyway, I doubt most of you reading this will have the same problem .

I'm grateful to not have experienced any hair loss.
Most people who experience hair loss from their RAD-140 cycles are either people who got scammed and bought pro-hormones instead of RAD-140, and/or people who were prone to Male Pattern Baldness (MPB) and suffered from it because the increased T from the enclo induced higher amounts of dihydrotestosterone (DHT) conversion.
It is common knowledge that DHT causes hair loss.

According to most experts (i.e. redditors), running a SARM + SERM cycle is the best way to go.

• It effectively fights suppression.​
• You don't run the (very slim) risk of getting shut down.​
• It prevents from losing gains post-cycle.​
• PCT is no longer necessary. No need to suffer the side effects from PCT.​
• You get a temporary (often 2-week) test boost after the cycle while you keep taking enclo.​

I agree.
The suppression did hit me quite hard, but running the enclo alongside my RAD-140 made it a lot less noticeable.
I am 20 days post cycle and I haven't noticed any muscle loss!

I now weigh 74kg/163lbs.
My bf% is still the approximately the same (assessed visually).
I can only assume that I put on 14kg/30lbs of pure muscle, but that would be crazy.
Usually people gain 4-9kg/9-20 lbs of muscle on a 8 week cycle of RAD-140 alone (some run it with MK-677 and get more gains, but they get water retention so no thanks).
I don't want to give false hopes so I'll stay on the safe side and say I gained 12kg/26lbs of muscle in 6 weeks.

Still, this is absolutely crazy.

I went from a pathetically skinny twig to a dude with a respectable physique.
I mainly focused on my shoulders, arms, upper pecs, and lats.
My pecs are still utter shit , but at least they bulge out now. I realised mid-cycle how shit my insertions and genetics were JFL.

Everyone, I mean everyone, has noticed the drastic change.
My mum cried when she saw me on FaceTime on week 6 because of how much I changed LOL.
Dudes have a lot more respect for me; I was clubbing with my girl last night, and while I went to the toilet, some htn tried getting close to her.
As soon as I got back and saw him trying to put his hand on my girl (who hadn't seen him because he was behind her), I started yelling:
"Get the fuck away! Get the FUCK away!"

I kept walking towards him and he had to walk backwards with his hands in front of his chest saying "sorry man. I'm sorry bro". The club was quite crowded so he stepped on people's shoes and they all got mad at him too JFL. I followed his ass for at least 4 meters across the club.
That dude was slightly taller than me so damn did it feel good to know that he feared me.
Anyway he could tell that I mogged him back to the ghettoes of Birmingham or whatever shithole his anglo-cumskin-ass comes from, so he just accepted the BRUTAL mog and chickened out.

People tend to downplay this a lot and shout "muh muscles are male gaze", but actually being respected by other men is arguably as important as appealing to women.
How is your girl supposed to feel safe with you when literally 9/10 dudes on the street could pin your skinny ass to the ground and beat the living shit out of you all while groping your girl with their other hand.

Keep your girls safe guys.
Some men out there are cruel and ruthless. You need to be able to fight back or even better, make them not want to fuck with you in the first place. That's what gymcelling should be for: commanding respect.
...Then you can also dominate your girl in the bedroom and make her know she is submitted to you. That's what they crave!
Even the most femenist-militant women you know go home every day and crave to be brutally fucked by chad.
They want to feel like objects!

Spoiler: PC remark

I say this with great respect to all the females out there. It is just logical from an evolutionarily standpoint for them to want a dominant partner.

Who would your oneitis rather get pounded by?

View attachment 2113742
A 6'2 world-famous supermodel and "PSL GOD"

OR

View attachment 2113743

A gymmaxxed normie
?

​

Enough said.

Back to my journey.
If there's one thing that I enjoyed the most about my RAD-140 cycle, it's that I was able bulk all while keeping hollow cheeks!
The main reason I never really bulked or even lean bulked was because of the water retention caused by the ridiculously high amount of carbs needed.
On RAD-140, my muscles were consuming all those carbs like crazy, so I could be eating 3500kcal a day with 400g of carbs and still be debloated.

Also, I was allowed to have cheat days!!!
Remember this thread?

HELP!! I JUST BINGE ATE 10 COOKIES

THOSE SAINSBURY’S COOKIES! WHAT DO I DO BRO. I HADNT EATEN ANY IN MONTHS. I FUCKED MY DIET UP I FEEL LIKE DYING. I CANT EVEN DO CARDIO TOMORROW BECAUSE I TWISTED MY ANKLE. I’M TAKING RAD140 SO THAT SHOULD HELP A BIT. ILL TAKE FUROSEMIDE TO HELP AGAINST THE BLOAT ILL GET TOMORROW. FUARK I...

looksmax.org

Well, I was perfectly fine. No bloat the next day, no issues or whatsoever!


Yes, sometimes I did get bloated because of my high sodium intake on some days (more food --> more sodium) but I had my furosemide (80mg) on-hand to counter it and reset back to debloated hollow cheeks.

Also, I think I've found a hack to having hollow cheeks all year round, regardless of calorie, carb and sodium intakes. No fake prescriptions needed this time either!
But that's for my next thread...

HERE ARE MY RESULTS:

Spoiler: After

"Muh not that impressive"
Well yeah no shit dawg. I started at 60kg. I was severely underweight and had little to no muscle.
I'll hop on another cycle in a few months and get some real definition this time.


Anyway, I hope you learned something and that you are now about to hop on your first RAD-140 cycle.
If you don't have a girlfriend (ie no need to have a functioning dick for a few weeks) then you have absolutely no reason to not go for it.
Of course, do some more research before considering it.

My last tip is to ONLY buy from reputable sellers. Don't try to save a few bucks by getting your RAD-140 from some unknown vendor. There are a lot of fakes on the market that could really fuck your health up. Spend the extra money, for your safety. This stuff is dangerous!


Ask the all the questions you need. I'll answer what I can.


I wish you the best boys!



-pneumo

Imagine using gear just to have a below average physique lmao I'd rather stay skinny

 

[¿Nero]

@charliewillascend you wanted a thread about Rad-40 this is pneumocystosis a deleted member who talks about some changes like acne and other stuff.

 

[e1488shciozl]

good ascension tbh and damn ur a chad facially

how tall r u barefoot ?

Wtf do people actually measure their height in sneakers?

 

[KJ7]

Bro deleted his imgur account

 

[iblamemyself!]

Reading this now is such a gem. Funny as fuck cagefuel and such a predecessor to the character that was about to come. Caged hard at the and mom parts. Always mired your rage following after @forevergymcelling's displays ngl.

Hate jews

 

[mbi876]

I PUT ON 12KG OF MUSCLE IN A MONTH AND A HALF

​

These were not newbie gains; I had started training 3 months prior and I only put on 2kg of muscle. Pathetic.
I was eating just above maintenance most weeks and cutting back to 1600kcals/day sometimes to debloat because "muh jb appeal".

I was 181.5cm/5'11 60kg/132lbs before I started my cycle. I puked my guts out on New Year's and was sick so I went from 64kg to 60kg in a week.

This is what I looked like before:

Spoiler: Before

A skinny twig.
Don't get me wrong, I still had good appeal to foids my age and younger (<=19). I had never been rejected by a foid in the club since uni started in September.

But let's be honest, who was I gonna fuck with that frame?
Do you think girls looked at me and craved sex with me?

If I've learned one thing over the past few months of having a GF (and a few side hoes ) and from reading the literature, is that
Women want to be DOMINATED in bed.

Who was I going to dominate looking like that? JFL.
I never was able to give my girl an orgasm. We had been having sex for 2 months, so I was getting kinda worried.

I then imagined her getting pounded by a 6'4 gymmaxxed chad and started to get insecure.
Who would she rather get fucked by? Well that tall jacked dude of course.

Any guy or girl who tells you the contrary is DELUSIONAL.


So I took action. I had been making no progress in so long so I looked at Performance-Enhancing Drugs (PEDs).
As any logical person, I wanted the most results with the least side effects.
And for that reason, steroids were off the table.

I researched Selective Androgen Receptor Modulators (SARMs) and in particular RAD-140, as it is often referred to as the most powerful SARM.

Source: naspcenter.org

I took into account the advantages and the drawbacks of RAD-140:

ADVANTAGES​	DRAWBACKS​
Increased muscle growth​	Suppresses natural Testosterone production​
Faster muscle repair​	Little knowledge on long-term side-effects​
Increased metabolic rate -> burns fat like crazy​	Illegal. Not FDA approved. Still a research chemical. Sold as "not for human consumption" to circumvent laws.​
No water retention unlike most other SARMS. Possible to keep hollow cheeks on cycle​	Reports of hair loss. Does not grow back for a number of people (reddit)​
Cheap. £86 for enough RAD-140 and Enclomiphene Citrate for an 8-week cycle​	Acne​
Increased endurance​	Increased aggressiveness and irritability​
	Risk of shutting down natural T production if Post-Cycle Treatment (PCT) is not taken seriously​
	Liver and other organ damage​

​

The advantages were enough to convince me.

However, could I fight back against the side-effects?
The only thing I could do was keep applying Benzoyl Peroxide (massive cope ) to keep the acne under control.
I also planned on taking a Selective Estrogen Receptor Modulator (SERM) throughout my cycle to keep a Test base and fight against the suppression.
The SERM I took was Enclomiphene Citrate (enclo).
I also had Dandelion Root supplements for liver health. Most people recommend NAC though.

How did the cycle go?
I started my cycle on Jan 17th. I started by taking 10mg every day, as that's what most people recommend.
I drastically changed my diet too. I started eating 3500kcal a day with approx 230g of protein and 400g of carbs.

Spoiler: What would be recommended for you?

You can check your Total Daily Energy Expenditure (TDEE) here, and find the best macros for your goals (cutting, maintaining, bulking):
https://tdeecalculator.net/

I also spent 2 hours in the gym, every day.
My split was Push-Pull. Yep. No legs (cope ), no rest days.
The fast muscle repair allowed me to maintain this split throughout my cycle.

Reminder of my day 1 stats:
5'11/181.5cm, 60kg/132lbs, approx 10-12% bf (assessed visually).

First week:

• +4kg. Likely water retention from all the carbs (350g+/day) I started eating.​
• crazy sex drive + a lot of cum​
• Feeling very aggressive​

Second week:

• +1kg. Comfortably sitting at 65kg.​
• Liquidy cum (meaning low sperm count)​
• Low energy​
• Low sex drive​
• Acne getting bad​

The second week is when suppression started to hit hard.
As I have a very horny girlfriend, I could not keep dealing with the sexual side effects.
I started taking enclo (6.25mg every day) on the first day of week 3.

Third week:

• +2kg​
• Cum still quite liquidy, yet less.​
• Cum tastes like "chemicals". Tastes like "it doesn't come from me". Source: my gf​
• Sex drive still not ideal. Erectile Dysfunction (ED) occurred twice this week.​
• Acne still bad, getting worse on forehead. Skin doesn't seem to heal.​
• Wanting to beat anyone up for the stupidest reasons​

By this time, I had ordered Melanotan II (MT2) for two reasons.
First, to get a tan in winter while all these cumskins are paler than my ass.
Second, to increase libido and get rock-solid erections. MT2 is used to produce erections in men with ED. Study: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9679884/

Fourth and fifth weeks:

• +5kg​
• Bumped RAD-140 up to 15mg a day​
• Bumped enclo up to 12.5mg a day on the first day of week 4​
• Acne stabilising. Having to deal with the acne scars from previous weeks.​
• Sex drive better. A few more occurences of ED.​
• Cum still tastes weird according to my gf​
• Spoiler

  even i found it to taste weird ngl
• More respect from dudes in clubs and the gym​
• Started beating my girlfriend ​

Sixth week:

• +2kg​
• Sex drive not good but better.​
• Acne stopped.​
• Still very irritable. My mum pointed it out on week 1 and she hadn't FaceTimed me since. Spoke again on day 5 of sixth week, and we argued jfl. she doesn't want to see or call me anymore ​
• My ED got really bad and girlfriend started to get embarassed and insecure.​
• I therefore decided to stop the cycle early and not go on for the full 8 weeks.​

For the next two weeks I kept taking 12.5mg enclo every day to get my hormones back to pre-cycle levels.
However I'll never know if they actually are because my broke-student ass is not paying £200 to get my bloods checked.

Also, keep in mind I was seeing my gf 3 days a week and having sex around 4 times every time we met up.
Of course my sex drive is altered by my heavy sexual activity.
But anyway, I doubt most of you reading this will have the same problem .

I'm grateful to not have experienced any hair loss.
Most people who experience hair loss from their RAD-140 cycles are either people who got scammed and bought pro-hormones instead of RAD-140, and/or people who were prone to Male Pattern Baldness (MPB) and suffered from it because the increased T from the enclo induced higher amounts of dihydrotestosterone (DHT) conversion.
It is common knowledge that DHT causes hair loss.

According to most experts (i.e. redditors), running a SARM + SERM cycle is the best way to go.

• It effectively fights suppression.​
• You don't run the (very slim) risk of getting shut down.​
• It prevents from losing gains post-cycle.​
• PCT is no longer necessary. No need to suffer the side effects from PCT.​
• You get a temporary (often 2-week) test boost after the cycle while you keep taking enclo.​

I agree.
The suppression did hit me quite hard, but running the enclo alongside my RAD-140 made it a lot less noticeable.
I am 20 days post cycle and I haven't noticed any muscle loss!

I now weigh 74kg/163lbs.
My bf% is still the approximately the same (assessed visually).
I can only assume that I put on 14kg/30lbs of pure muscle, but that would be crazy.
Usually people gain 4-9kg/9-20 lbs of muscle on a 8 week cycle of RAD-140 alone (some run it with MK-677 and get more gains, but they get water retention so no thanks).
I don't want to give false hopes so I'll stay on the safe side and say I gained 12kg/26lbs of muscle in 6 weeks.

Still, this is absolutely crazy.

I went from a pathetically skinny twig to a dude with a respectable physique.
I mainly focused on my shoulders, arms, upper pecs, and lats.
My pecs are still utter shit , but at least they bulge out now. I realised mid-cycle how shit my insertions and genetics were JFL.

Everyone, I mean everyone, has noticed the drastic change.
My mum cried when she saw me on FaceTime on week 6 because of how much I changed LOL.
Dudes have a lot more respect for me; I was clubbing with my girl last night, and while I went to the toilet, some htn tried getting close to her.
As soon as I got back and saw him trying to put his hand on my girl (who hadn't seen him because he was behind her), I started yelling:
"Get the fuck away! Get the FUCK away!"

I kept walking towards him and he had to walk backwards with his hands in front of his chest saying "sorry man. I'm sorry bro". The club was quite crowded so he stepped on people's shoes and they all got mad at him too JFL. I followed his ass for at least 4 meters across the club.
That dude was slightly taller than me so damn did it feel good to know that he feared me.
Anyway he could tell that I mogged him back to the ghettoes of Birmingham or whatever shithole his anglo-cumskin-ass comes from, so he just accepted the BRUTAL mog and chickened out.

People tend to downplay this a lot and shout "muh muscles are male gaze", but actually being respected by other men is arguably as important as appealing to women.
How is your girl supposed to feel safe with you when literally 9/10 dudes on the street could pin your skinny ass to the ground and beat the living shit out of you all while groping your girl with their other hand.

Keep your girls safe guys.
Some men out there are cruel and ruthless. You need to be able to fight back or even better, make them not want to fuck with you in the first place. That's what gymcelling should be for: commanding respect.
...Then you can also dominate your girl in the bedroom and make her know she is submitted to you. That's what they crave!
Even the most femenist-militant women you know go home every day and crave to be brutally fucked by chad.
They want to feel like objects!

Spoiler: PC remark

I say this with great respect to all the females out there. It is just logical from an evolutionarily standpoint for them to want a dominant partner.

Who would your oneitis rather get pounded by?

View attachment 2113742
A 6'2 world-famous supermodel and "PSL GOD"

OR

View attachment 2113743

A gymmaxxed normie
?

​

Enough said.

Back to my journey.
If there's one thing that I enjoyed the most about my RAD-140 cycle, it's that I was able bulk all while keeping hollow cheeks!
The main reason I never really bulked or even lean bulked was because of the water retention caused by the ridiculously high amount of carbs needed.
On RAD-140, my muscles were consuming all those carbs like crazy, so I could be eating 3500kcal a day with 400g of carbs and still be debloated.

Also, I was allowed to have cheat days!!!
Remember this thread?

HELP!! I JUST BINGE ATE 10 COOKIES

THOSE SAINSBURY’S COOKIES! WHAT DO I DO BRO. I HADNT EATEN ANY IN MONTHS. I FUCKED MY DIET UP I FEEL LIKE DYING. I CANT EVEN DO CARDIO TOMORROW BECAUSE I TWISTED MY ANKLE. I’M TAKING RAD140 SO THAT SHOULD HELP A BIT. ILL TAKE FUROSEMIDE TO HELP AGAINST THE BLOAT ILL GET TOMORROW. FUARK I...

looksmax.org

Well, I was perfectly fine. No bloat the next day, no issues or whatsoever!


Yes, sometimes I did get bloated because of my high sodium intake on some days (more food --> more sodium) but I had my furosemide (80mg) on-hand to counter it and reset back to debloated hollow cheeks.

Also, I think I've found a hack to having hollow cheeks all year round, regardless of calorie, carb and sodium intakes. No fake prescriptions needed this time either!
But that's for my next thread...

HERE ARE MY RESULTS:

Spoiler: After

"Muh not that impressive"
Well yeah no shit dawg. I started at 60kg. I was severely underweight and had little to no muscle.
I'll hop on another cycle in a few months and get some real definition this time.


Anyway, I hope you learned something and that you are now about to hop on your first RAD-140 cycle.
If you don't have a girlfriend (ie no need to have a functioning dick for a few weeks) then you have absolutely no reason to not go for it.
Of course, do some more research before considering it.

My last tip is to ONLY buy from reputable sellers. Don't try to save a few bucks by getting your RAD-140 from some unknown vendor. There are a lot of fakes on the market that could really fuck your health up. Spend the extra money, for your safety. This stuff is dangerous!


Ask the all the questions you need. I'll answer what I can.


I wish you the best boys!



-pneumo

Training everyday is retarded.

 

[veilzipork]

Holy cope

 

[ropemaxxxx]

I PUT ON 12KG OF MUSCLE IN A MONTH AND A HALF

​

These were not newbie gains; I had started training 3 months prior and I only put on 2kg of muscle. Pathetic.
I was eating just above maintenance most weeks and cutting back to 1600kcals/day sometimes to debloat because "muh jb appeal".

I was 181.5cm/5'11 60kg/132lbs before I started my cycle. I puked my guts out on New Year's and was sick so I went from 64kg to 60kg in a week.

This is what I looked like before:

Spoiler: Before

A skinny twig.
Don't get me wrong, I still had good appeal to foids my age and younger (<=19). I had never been rejected by a foid in the club since uni started in September.

But let's be honest, who was I gonna fuck with that frame?
Do you think girls looked at me and craved sex with me?

If I've learned one thing over the past few months of having a GF (and a few side hoes ) and from reading the literature, is that
Women want to be DOMINATED in bed.

Who was I going to dominate looking like that? JFL.
I never was able to give my girl an orgasm. We had been having sex for 2 months, so I was getting kinda worried.

I then imagined her getting pounded by a 6'4 gymmaxxed chad and started to get insecure.
Who would she rather get fucked by? Well that tall jacked dude of course.

Any guy or girl who tells you the contrary is DELUSIONAL.


So I took action. I had been making no progress in so long so I looked at Performance-Enhancing Drugs (PEDs).
As any logical person, I wanted the most results with the least side effects.
And for that reason, steroids were off the table.

I researched Selective Androgen Receptor Modulators (SARMs) and in particular RAD-140, as it is often referred to as the most powerful SARM.

Source: naspcenter.org

I took into account the advantages and the drawbacks of RAD-140:

ADVANTAGES​	DRAWBACKS​
Increased muscle growth​	Suppresses natural Testosterone production​
Faster muscle repair​	Little knowledge on long-term side-effects​
Increased metabolic rate -> burns fat like crazy​	Illegal. Not FDA approved. Still a research chemical. Sold as "not for human consumption" to circumvent laws.​
No water retention unlike most other SARMS. Possible to keep hollow cheeks on cycle​	Reports of hair loss. Does not grow back for a number of people (reddit)​
Cheap. £86 for enough RAD-140 and Enclomiphene Citrate for an 8-week cycle​	Acne​
Increased endurance​	Increased aggressiveness and irritability​
	Risk of shutting down natural T production if Post-Cycle Treatment (PCT) is not taken seriously​
	Liver and other organ damage​

​

The advantages were enough to convince me.

However, could I fight back against the side-effects?
The only thing I could do was keep applying Benzoyl Peroxide (massive cope ) to keep the acne under control.
I also planned on taking a Selective Estrogen Receptor Modulator (SERM) throughout my cycle to keep a Test base and fight against the suppression.
The SERM I took was Enclomiphene Citrate (enclo).
I also had Dandelion Root supplements for liver health. Most people recommend NAC though.

How did the cycle go?
I started my cycle on Jan 17th. I started by taking 10mg every day, as that's what most people recommend.
I drastically changed my diet too. I started eating 3500kcal a day with approx 230g of protein and 400g of carbs.

Spoiler: What would be recommended for you?

You can check your Total Daily Energy Expenditure (TDEE) here, and find the best macros for your goals (cutting, maintaining, bulking):
https://tdeecalculator.net/

I also spent 2 hours in the gym, every day.
My split was Push-Pull. Yep. No legs (cope ), no rest days.
The fast muscle repair allowed me to maintain this split throughout my cycle.

Reminder of my day 1 stats:
5'11/181.5cm, 60kg/132lbs, approx 10-12% bf (assessed visually).

First week:

• +4kg. Likely water retention from all the carbs (350g+/day) I started eating.​
• crazy sex drive + a lot of cum​
• Feeling very aggressive​

Second week:

• +1kg. Comfortably sitting at 65kg.​
• Liquidy cum (meaning low sperm count)​
• Low energy​
• Low sex drive​
• Acne getting bad​

The second week is when suppression started to hit hard.
As I have a very horny girlfriend, I could not keep dealing with the sexual side effects.
I started taking enclo (6.25mg every day) on the first day of week 3.

Third week:

• +2kg​
• Cum still quite liquidy, yet less.​
• Cum tastes like "chemicals". Tastes like "it doesn't come from me". Source: my gf​
• Sex drive still not ideal. Erectile Dysfunction (ED) occurred twice this week.​
• Acne still bad, getting worse on forehead. Skin doesn't seem to heal.​
• Wanting to beat anyone up for the stupidest reasons​

By this time, I had ordered Melanotan II (MT2) for two reasons.
First, to get a tan in winter while all these cumskins are paler than my ass.
Second, to increase libido and get rock-solid erections. MT2 is used to produce erections in men with ED. Study: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9679884/

Fourth and fifth weeks:

• +5kg​
• Bumped RAD-140 up to 15mg a day​
• Bumped enclo up to 12.5mg a day on the first day of week 4​
• Acne stabilising. Having to deal with the acne scars from previous weeks.​
• Sex drive better. A few more occurences of ED.​
• Cum still tastes weird according to my gf​
• Spoiler

  even i found it to taste weird ngl
• More respect from dudes in clubs and the gym​
• Started beating my girlfriend ​

Sixth week:

• +2kg​
• Sex drive not good but better.​
• Acne stopped.​
• Still very irritable. My mum pointed it out on week 1 and she hadn't FaceTimed me since. Spoke again on day 5 of sixth week, and we argued jfl. she doesn't want to see or call me anymore ​
• My ED got really bad and girlfriend started to get embarassed and insecure.​
• I therefore decided to stop the cycle early and not go on for the full 8 weeks.​

For the next two weeks I kept taking 12.5mg enclo every day to get my hormones back to pre-cycle levels.
However I'll never know if they actually are because my broke-student ass is not paying £200 to get my bloods checked.

Also, keep in mind I was seeing my gf 3 days a week and having sex around 4 times every time we met up.
Of course my sex drive is altered by my heavy sexual activity.
But anyway, I doubt most of you reading this will have the same problem .

I'm grateful to not have experienced any hair loss.
Most people who experience hair loss from their RAD-140 cycles are either people who got scammed and bought pro-hormones instead of RAD-140, and/or people who were prone to Male Pattern Baldness (MPB) and suffered from it because the increased T from the enclo induced higher amounts of dihydrotestosterone (DHT) conversion.
It is common knowledge that DHT causes hair loss.

According to most experts (i.e. redditors), running a SARM + SERM cycle is the best way to go.

• It effectively fights suppression.​
• You don't run the (very slim) risk of getting shut down.​
• It prevents from losing gains post-cycle.​
• PCT is no longer necessary. No need to suffer the side effects from PCT.​
• You get a temporary (often 2-week) test boost after the cycle while you keep taking enclo.​

I agree.
The suppression did hit me quite hard, but running the enclo alongside my RAD-140 made it a lot less noticeable.
I am 20 days post cycle and I haven't noticed any muscle loss!

I now weigh 74kg/163lbs.
My bf% is still the approximately the same (assessed visually).
I can only assume that I put on 14kg/30lbs of pure muscle, but that would be crazy.
Usually people gain 4-9kg/9-20 lbs of muscle on a 8 week cycle of RAD-140 alone (some run it with MK-677 and get more gains, but they get water retention so no thanks).
I don't want to give false hopes so I'll stay on the safe side and say I gained 12kg/26lbs of muscle in 6 weeks.

Still, this is absolutely crazy.

I went from a pathetically skinny twig to a dude with a respectable physique.
I mainly focused on my shoulders, arms, upper pecs, and lats.
My pecs are still utter shit , but at least they bulge out now. I realised mid-cycle how shit my insertions and genetics were JFL.

Everyone, I mean everyone, has noticed the drastic change.
My mum cried when she saw me on FaceTime on week 6 because of how much I changed LOL.
Dudes have a lot more respect for me; I was clubbing with my girl last night, and while I went to the toilet, some htn tried getting close to her.
As soon as I got back and saw him trying to put his hand on my girl (who hadn't seen him because he was behind her), I started yelling:
"Get the fuck away! Get the FUCK away!"

I kept walking towards him and he had to walk backwards with his hands in front of his chest saying "sorry man. I'm sorry bro". The club was quite crowded so he stepped on people's shoes and they all got mad at him too JFL. I followed his ass for at least 4 meters across the club.
That dude was slightly taller than me so damn did it feel good to know that he feared me.
Anyway he could tell that I mogged him back to the ghettoes of Birmingham or whatever shithole his anglo-cumskin-ass comes from, so he just accepted the BRUTAL mog and chickened out.

People tend to downplay this a lot and shout "muh muscles are male gaze", but actually being respected by other men is arguably as important as appealing to women.
How is your girl supposed to feel safe with you when literally 9/10 dudes on the street could pin your skinny ass to the ground and beat the living shit out of you all while groping your girl with their other hand.

Keep your girls safe guys.
Some men out there are cruel and ruthless. You need to be able to fight back or even better, make them not want to fuck with you in the first place. That's what gymcelling should be for: commanding respect.
...Then you can also dominate your girl in the bedroom and make her know she is submitted to you. That's what they crave!
Even the most femenist-militant women you know go home every day and crave to be brutally fucked by chad.
They want to feel like objects!

Spoiler: PC remark

I say this with great respect to all the females out there. It is just logical from an evolutionarily standpoint for them to want a dominant partner.

Who would your oneitis rather get pounded by?

View attachment 2113742
A 6'2 world-famous supermodel and "PSL GOD"

OR

View attachment 2113743

A gymmaxxed normie
?

​

Enough said.

Back to my journey.
If there's one thing that I enjoyed the most about my RAD-140 cycle, it's that I was able bulk all while keeping hollow cheeks!
The main reason I never really bulked or even lean bulked was because of the water retention caused by the ridiculously high amount of carbs needed.
On RAD-140, my muscles were consuming all those carbs like crazy, so I could be eating 3500kcal a day with 400g of carbs and still be debloated.

Also, I was allowed to have cheat days!!!
Remember this thread?

HELP!! I JUST BINGE ATE 10 COOKIES

THOSE SAINSBURY’S COOKIES! WHAT DO I DO BRO. I HADNT EATEN ANY IN MONTHS. I FUCKED MY DIET UP I FEEL LIKE DYING. I CANT EVEN DO CARDIO TOMORROW BECAUSE I TWISTED MY ANKLE. I’M TAKING RAD140 SO THAT SHOULD HELP A BIT. ILL TAKE FUROSEMIDE TO HELP AGAINST THE BLOAT ILL GET TOMORROW. FUARK I...

looksmax.org

Well, I was perfectly fine. No bloat the next day, no issues or whatsoever!


Yes, sometimes I did get bloated because of my high sodium intake on some days (more food --> more sodium) but I had my furosemide (80mg) on-hand to counter it and reset back to debloated hollow cheeks.

Also, I think I've found a hack to having hollow cheeks all year round, regardless of calorie, carb and sodium intakes. No fake prescriptions needed this time either!
But that's for my next thread...

HERE ARE MY RESULTS:

Spoiler: After

"Muh not that impressive"
Well yeah no shit dawg. I started at 60kg. I was severely underweight and had little to no muscle.
I'll hop on another cycle in a few months and get some real definition this time.


Anyway, I hope you learned something and that you are now about to hop on your first RAD-140 cycle.
If you don't have a girlfriend (ie no need to have a functioning dick for a few weeks) then you have absolutely no reason to not go for it.
Of course, do some more research before considering it.

My last tip is to ONLY buy from reputable sellers. Don't try to save a few bucks by getting your RAD-140 from some unknown vendor. There are a lot of fakes on the market that could really fuck your health up. Spend the extra money, for your safety. This stuff is dangerous!


Ask the all the questions you need. I'll answer what I can.


I wish you the best boys!



-pneumo

A lot of ego for 74 kg

 

[EvilSatanArseRapist]

Alla that instead of just eating well and not training like a fucking retard.

 

[Askeladd93270]

Yo im in the situation you were at the start 5'11 58kg and I relate with everything you said im gonna try to reach 70kg+ too

 

[Deleted member 161065]

How tf is this in botb

 

[d3m4g5]

How tf is this in botb

Lmao @phenylpiracetam

 

[midfacedeficient]

this is maybe 3kgs of muscle

 

[j56538257]

I PUT ON 12KG OF MUSCLE IN A MONTH AND A HALF

​

These were not newbie gains; I had started training 3 months prior and I only put on 2kg of muscle. Pathetic.
I was eating just above maintenance most weeks and cutting back to 1600kcals/day sometimes to debloat because "muh jb appeal".

I was 181.5cm/5'11 60kg/132lbs before I started my cycle. I puked my guts out on New Year's and was sick so I went from 64kg to 60kg in a week.

This is what I looked like before:

Spoiler: Before

A skinny twig.
Don't get me wrong, I still had good appeal to foids my age and younger (<=19). I had never been rejected by a foid in the club since uni started in September.

But let's be honest, who was I gonna fuck with that frame?
Do you think girls looked at me and craved sex with me?

If I've learned one thing over the past few months of having a GF (and a few side hoes ) and from reading the literature, is that
Women want to be DOMINATED in bed.

Who was I going to dominate looking like that? JFL.
I never was able to give my girl an orgasm. We had been having sex for 2 months, so I was getting kinda worried.

I then imagined her getting pounded by a 6'4 gymmaxxed chad and started to get insecure.
Who would she rather get fucked by? Well that tall jacked dude of course.

Any guy or girl who tells you the contrary is DELUSIONAL.


So I took action. I had been making no progress in so long so I looked at Performance-Enhancing Drugs (PEDs).
As any logical person, I wanted the most results with the least side effects.
And for that reason, steroids were off the table.

I researched Selective Androgen Receptor Modulators (SARMs) and in particular RAD-140, as it is often referred to as the most powerful SARM.

Source: naspcenter.org

I took into account the advantages and the drawbacks of RAD-140:

ADVANTAGES​	DRAWBACKS​
Increased muscle growth​	Suppresses natural Testosterone production​
Faster muscle repair​	Little knowledge on long-term side-effects​
Increased metabolic rate -> burns fat like crazy​	Illegal. Not FDA approved. Still a research chemical. Sold as "not for human consumption" to circumvent laws.​
No water retention unlike most other SARMS. Possible to keep hollow cheeks on cycle​	Reports of hair loss. Does not grow back for a number of people (reddit)​
Cheap. £86 for enough RAD-140 and Enclomiphene Citrate for an 8-week cycle​	Acne​
Increased endurance​	Increased aggressiveness and irritability​
	Risk of shutting down natural T production if Post-Cycle Treatment (PCT) is not taken seriously​
	Liver and other organ damage​

​

The advantages were enough to convince me.

However, could I fight back against the side-effects?
The only thing I could do was keep applying Benzoyl Peroxide (massive cope ) to keep the acne under control.
I also planned on taking a Selective Estrogen Receptor Modulator (SERM) throughout my cycle to keep a Test base and fight against the suppression.
The SERM I took was Enclomiphene Citrate (enclo).
I also had Dandelion Root supplements for liver health. Most people recommend NAC though.

How did the cycle go?
I started my cycle on Jan 17th. I started by taking 10mg every day, as that's what most people recommend.
I drastically changed my diet too. I started eating 3500kcal a day with approx 230g of protein and 400g of carbs.

Spoiler: What would be recommended for you?

You can check your Total Daily Energy Expenditure (TDEE) here, and find the best macros for your goals (cutting, maintaining, bulking):
https://tdeecalculator.net/

I also spent 2 hours in the gym, every day.
My split was Push-Pull. Yep. No legs (cope ), no rest days.
The fast muscle repair allowed me to maintain this split throughout my cycle.

Reminder of my day 1 stats:
5'11/181.5cm, 60kg/132lbs, approx 10-12% bf (assessed visually).

First week:

• +4kg. Likely water retention from all the carbs (350g+/day) I started eating.​
• crazy sex drive + a lot of cum​
• Feeling very aggressive​

Second week:

• +1kg. Comfortably sitting at 65kg.​
• Liquidy cum (meaning low sperm count)​
• Low energy​
• Low sex drive​
• Acne getting bad​

The second week is when suppression started to hit hard.
As I have a very horny girlfriend, I could not keep dealing with the sexual side effects.
I started taking enclo (6.25mg every day) on the first day of week 3.

Third week:

• +2kg​
• Cum still quite liquidy, yet less.​
• Cum tastes like "chemicals". Tastes like "it doesn't come from me". Source: my gf​
• Sex drive still not ideal. Erectile Dysfunction (ED) occurred twice this week.​
• Acne still bad, getting worse on forehead. Skin doesn't seem to heal.​
• Wanting to beat anyone up for the stupidest reasons​

By this time, I had ordered Melanotan II (MT2) for two reasons.
First, to get a tan in winter while all these cumskins are paler than my ass.
Second, to increase libido and get rock-solid erections. MT2 is used to produce erections in men with ED. Study: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9679884/

Fourth and fifth weeks:

• +5kg​
• Bumped RAD-140 up to 15mg a day​
• Bumped enclo up to 12.5mg a day on the first day of week 4​
• Acne stabilising. Having to deal with the acne scars from previous weeks.​
• Sex drive better. A few more occurences of ED.​
• Cum still tastes weird according to my gf​
• Spoiler

  even i found it to taste weird ngl
• More respect from dudes in clubs and the gym​
• Started beating my girlfriend ​

Sixth week:

• +2kg​
• Sex drive not good but better.​
• Acne stopped.​
• Still very irritable. My mum pointed it out on week 1 and she hadn't FaceTimed me since. Spoke again on day 5 of sixth week, and we argued jfl. she doesn't want to see or call me anymore ​
• My ED got really bad and girlfriend started to get embarassed and insecure.​
• I therefore decided to stop the cycle early and not go on for the full 8 weeks.​

For the next two weeks I kept taking 12.5mg enclo every day to get my hormones back to pre-cycle levels.
However I'll never know if they actually are because my broke-student ass is not paying £200 to get my bloods checked.

Also, keep in mind I was seeing my gf 3 days a week and having sex around 4 times every time we met up.
Of course my sex drive is altered by my heavy sexual activity.
But anyway, I doubt most of you reading this will have the same problem .

I'm grateful to not have experienced any hair loss.
Most people who experience hair loss from their RAD-140 cycles are either people who got scammed and bought pro-hormones instead of RAD-140, and/or people who were prone to Male Pattern Baldness (MPB) and suffered from it because the increased T from the enclo induced higher amounts of dihydrotestosterone (DHT) conversion.
It is common knowledge that DHT causes hair loss.

According to most experts (i.e. redditors), running a SARM + SERM cycle is the best way to go.

• It effectively fights suppression.​
• You don't run the (very slim) risk of getting shut down.​
• It prevents from losing gains post-cycle.​
• PCT is no longer necessary. No need to suffer the side effects from PCT.​
• You get a temporary (often 2-week) test boost after the cycle while you keep taking enclo.​

I agree.
The suppression did hit me quite hard, but running the enclo alongside my RAD-140 made it a lot less noticeable.
I am 20 days post cycle and I haven't noticed any muscle loss!

I now weigh 74kg/163lbs.
My bf% is still the approximately the same (assessed visually).
I can only assume that I put on 14kg/30lbs of pure muscle, but that would be crazy.
Usually people gain 4-9kg/9-20 lbs of muscle on a 8 week cycle of RAD-140 alone (some run it with MK-677 and get more gains, but they get water retention so no thanks).
I don't want to give false hopes so I'll stay on the safe side and say I gained 12kg/26lbs of muscle in 6 weeks.

Still, this is absolutely crazy.

I went from a pathetically skinny twig to a dude with a respectable physique.
I mainly focused on my shoulders, arms, upper pecs, and lats.
My pecs are still utter shit , but at least they bulge out now. I realised mid-cycle how shit my insertions and genetics were JFL.

Everyone, I mean everyone, has noticed the drastic change.
My mum cried when she saw me on FaceTime on week 6 because of how much I changed LOL.
Dudes have a lot more respect for me; I was clubbing with my girl last night, and while I went to the toilet, some htn tried getting close to her.
As soon as I got back and saw him trying to put his hand on my girl (who hadn't seen him because he was behind her), I started yelling:
"Get the fuck away! Get the FUCK away!"

I kept walking towards him and he had to walk backwards with his hands in front of his chest saying "sorry man. I'm sorry bro". The club was quite crowded so he stepped on people's shoes and they all got mad at him too JFL. I followed his ass for at least 4 meters across the club.
That dude was slightly taller than me so damn did it feel good to know that he feared me.
Anyway he could tell that I mogged him back to the ghettoes of Birmingham or whatever shithole his anglo-cumskin-ass comes from, so he just accepted the BRUTAL mog and chickened out.

People tend to downplay this a lot and shout "muh muscles are male gaze", but actually being respected by other men is arguably as important as appealing to women.
How is your girl supposed to feel safe with you when literally 9/10 dudes on the street could pin your skinny ass to the ground and beat the living shit out of you all while groping your girl with their other hand.

Keep your girls safe guys.
Some men out there are cruel and ruthless. You need to be able to fight back or even better, make them not want to fuck with you in the first place. That's what gymcelling should be for: commanding respect.
...Then you can also dominate your girl in the bedroom and make her know she is submitted to you. That's what they crave!
Even the most femenist-militant women you know go home every day and crave to be brutally fucked by chad.
They want to feel like objects!

Spoiler: PC remark

I say this with great respect to all the females out there. It is just logical from an evolutionarily standpoint for them to want a dominant partner.

Who would your oneitis rather get pounded by?

View attachment 2113742
A 6'2 world-famous supermodel and "PSL GOD"

OR

View attachment 2113743

A gymmaxxed normie
?

​

Enough said.

Back to my journey.
If there's one thing that I enjoyed the most about my RAD-140 cycle, it's that I was able bulk all while keeping hollow cheeks!
The main reason I never really bulked or even lean bulked was because of the water retention caused by the ridiculously high amount of carbs needed.
On RAD-140, my muscles were consuming all those carbs like crazy, so I could be eating 3500kcal a day with 400g of carbs and still be debloated.

Also, I was allowed to have cheat days!!!
Remember this thread?

HELP!! I JUST BINGE ATE 10 COOKIES

THOSE SAINSBURY’S COOKIES! WHAT DO I DO BRO. I HADNT EATEN ANY IN MONTHS. I FUCKED MY DIET UP I FEEL LIKE DYING. I CANT EVEN DO CARDIO TOMORROW BECAUSE I TWISTED MY ANKLE. I’M TAKING RAD140 SO THAT SHOULD HELP A BIT. ILL TAKE FUROSEMIDE TO HELP AGAINST THE BLOAT ILL GET TOMORROW. FUARK I...

looksmax.org

Well, I was perfectly fine. No bloat the next day, no issues or whatsoever!


Yes, sometimes I did get bloated because of my high sodium intake on some days (more food --> more sodium) but I had my furosemide (80mg) on-hand to counter it and reset back to debloated hollow cheeks.

Also, I think I've found a hack to having hollow cheeks all year round, regardless of calorie, carb and sodium intakes. No fake prescriptions needed this time either!
But that's for my next thread...

HERE ARE MY RESULTS:

Spoiler: After

"Muh not that impressive"
Well yeah no shit dawg. I started at 60kg. I was severely underweight and had little to no muscle.
I'll hop on another cycle in a few months and get some real definition this time.


Anyway, I hope you learned something and that you are now about to hop on your first RAD-140 cycle.
If you don't have a girlfriend (ie no need to have a functioning dick for a few weeks) then you have absolutely no reason to not go for it.
Of course, do some more research before considering it.

My last tip is to ONLY buy from reputable sellers. Don't try to save a few bucks by getting your RAD-140 from some unknown vendor. There are a lot of fakes on the market that could really fuck your health up. Spend the extra money, for your safety. This stuff is dangerous!


Ask the all the questions you need. I'll answer what I can.


I wish you the best boys!



-pneumo

not all women wanna be dominated in bed

 

[estrogen]

Women want to be DOMINATED in bed.

get a j*b nga

 

[Truecell67]

I PUT ON 12KG OF MUSCLE IN A MONTH AND A HALF

​

These were not newbie gains; I had started training 3 months prior and I only put on 2kg of muscle. Pathetic.
I was eating just above maintenance most weeks and cutting back to 1600kcals/day sometimes to debloat because "muh jb appeal".

I was 181.5cm/5'11 60kg/132lbs before I started my cycle. I puked my guts out on New Year's and was sick so I went from 64kg to 60kg in a week.

This is what I looked like before:

Spoiler: Before

A skinny twig.
Don't get me wrong, I still had good appeal to foids my age and younger (<=19). I had never been rejected by a foid in the club since uni started in September.

But let's be honest, who was I gonna fuck with that frame?
Do you think girls looked at me and craved sex with me?

If I've learned one thing over the past few months of having a GF (and a few side hoes ) and from reading the literature, is that
Women want to be DOMINATED in bed.

Who was I going to dominate looking like that? JFL.
I never was able to give my girl an orgasm. We had been having sex for 2 months, so I was getting kinda worried.

I then imagined her getting pounded by a 6'4 gymmaxxed chad and started to get insecure.
Who would she rather get fucked by? Well that tall jacked dude of course.

Any guy or girl who tells you the contrary is DELUSIONAL.


So I took action. I had been making no progress in so long so I looked at Performance-Enhancing Drugs (PEDs).
As any logical person, I wanted the most results with the least side effects.
And for that reason, steroids were off the table.

I researched Selective Androgen Receptor Modulators (SARMs) and in particular RAD-140, as it is often referred to as the most powerful SARM.

Source: naspcenter.org

I took into account the advantages and the drawbacks of RAD-140:

ADVANTAGES​	DRAWBACKS​
Increased muscle growth​	Suppresses natural Testosterone production​
Faster muscle repair​	Little knowledge on long-term side-effects​
Increased metabolic rate -> burns fat like crazy​	Illegal. Not FDA approved. Still a research chemical. Sold as "not for human consumption" to circumvent laws.​
No water retention unlike most other SARMS. Possible to keep hollow cheeks on cycle​	Reports of hair loss. Does not grow back for a number of people (reddit)​
Cheap. £86 for enough RAD-140 and Enclomiphene Citrate for an 8-week cycle​	Acne​
Increased endurance​	Increased aggressiveness and irritability​
	Risk of shutting down natural T production if Post-Cycle Treatment (PCT) is not taken seriously​
	Liver and other organ damage​

​

The advantages were enough to convince me.

However, could I fight back against the side-effects?
The only thing I could do was keep applying Benzoyl Peroxide (massive cope ) to keep the acne under control.
I also planned on taking a Selective Estrogen Receptor Modulator (SERM) throughout my cycle to keep a Test base and fight against the suppression.
The SERM I took was Enclomiphene Citrate (enclo).
I also had Dandelion Root supplements for liver health. Most people recommend NAC though.

How did the cycle go?
I started my cycle on Jan 17th. I started by taking 10mg every day, as that's what most people recommend.
I drastically changed my diet too. I started eating 3500kcal a day with approx 230g of protein and 400g of carbs.

Spoiler: What would be recommended for you?

You can check your Total Daily Energy Expenditure (TDEE) here, and find the best macros for your goals (cutting, maintaining, bulking):
https://tdeecalculator.net/

I also spent 2 hours in the gym, every day.
My split was Push-Pull. Yep. No legs (cope ), no rest days.
The fast muscle repair allowed me to maintain this split throughout my cycle.

Reminder of my day 1 stats:
5'11/181.5cm, 60kg/132lbs, approx 10-12% bf (assessed visually).

First week:

• +4kg. Likely water retention from all the carbs (350g+/day) I started eating.​
• crazy sex drive + a lot of cum​
• Feeling very aggressive​

Second week:

• +1kg. Comfortably sitting at 65kg.​
• Liquidy cum (meaning low sperm count)​
• Low energy​
• Low sex drive​
• Acne getting bad​

The second week is when suppression started to hit hard.
As I have a very horny girlfriend, I could not keep dealing with the sexual side effects.
I started taking enclo (6.25mg every day) on the first day of week 3.

Third week:

• +2kg​
• Cum still quite liquidy, yet less.​
• Cum tastes like "chemicals". Tastes like "it doesn't come from me". Source: my gf​
• Sex drive still not ideal. Erectile Dysfunction (ED) occurred twice this week.​
• Acne still bad, getting worse on forehead. Skin doesn't seem to heal.​
• Wanting to beat anyone up for the stupidest reasons​

By this time, I had ordered Melanotan II (MT2) for two reasons.
First, to get a tan in winter while all these cumskins are paler than my ass.
Second, to increase libido and get rock-solid erections. MT2 is used to produce erections in men with ED. Study: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9679884/

Fourth and fifth weeks:

• +5kg​
• Bumped RAD-140 up to 15mg a day​
• Bumped enclo up to 12.5mg a day on the first day of week 4​
• Acne stabilising. Having to deal with the acne scars from previous weeks.​
• Sex drive better. A few more occurences of ED.​
• Cum still tastes weird according to my gf​
• Spoiler

  even i found it to taste weird ngl
• More respect from dudes in clubs and the gym​
• Started beating my girlfriend ​

Sixth week:

• +2kg​
• Sex drive not good but better.​
• Acne stopped.​
• Still very irritable. My mum pointed it out on week 1 and she hadn't FaceTimed me since. Spoke again on day 5 of sixth week, and we argued jfl. she doesn't want to see or call me anymore ​
• My ED got really bad and girlfriend started to get embarassed and insecure.​
• I therefore decided to stop the cycle early and not go on for the full 8 weeks.​

For the next two weeks I kept taking 12.5mg enclo every day to get my hormones back to pre-cycle levels.
However I'll never know if they actually are because my broke-student ass is not paying £200 to get my bloods checked.

Also, keep in mind I was seeing my gf 3 days a week and having sex around 4 times every time we met up.
Of course my sex drive is altered by my heavy sexual activity.
But anyway, I doubt most of you reading this will have the same problem .

I'm grateful to not have experienced any hair loss.
Most people who experience hair loss from their RAD-140 cycles are either people who got scammed and bought pro-hormones instead of RAD-140, and/or people who were prone to Male Pattern Baldness (MPB) and suffered from it because the increased T from the enclo induced higher amounts of dihydrotestosterone (DHT) conversion.
It is common knowledge that DHT causes hair loss.

According to most experts (i.e. redditors), running a SARM + SERM cycle is the best way to go.

• It effectively fights suppression.​
• You don't run the (very slim) risk of getting shut down.​
• It prevents from losing gains post-cycle.​
• PCT is no longer necessary. No need to suffer the side effects from PCT.​
• You get a temporary (often 2-week) test boost after the cycle while you keep taking enclo.​

I agree.
The suppression did hit me quite hard, but running the enclo alongside my RAD-140 made it a lot less noticeable.
I am 20 days post cycle and I haven't noticed any muscle loss!

I now weigh 74kg/163lbs.
My bf% is still the approximately the same (assessed visually).
I can only assume that I put on 14kg/30lbs of pure muscle, but that would be crazy.
Usually people gain 4-9kg/9-20 lbs of muscle on a 8 week cycle of RAD-140 alone (some run it with MK-677 and get more gains, but they get water retention so no thanks).
I don't want to give false hopes so I'll stay on the safe side and say I gained 12kg/26lbs of muscle in 6 weeks.

Still, this is absolutely crazy.

I went from a pathetically skinny twig to a dude with a respectable physique.
I mainly focused on my shoulders, arms, upper pecs, and lats.
My pecs are still utter shit , but at least they bulge out now. I realised mid-cycle how shit my insertions and genetics were JFL.

Everyone, I mean everyone, has noticed the drastic change.
My mum cried when she saw me on FaceTime on week 6 because of how much I changed LOL.
Dudes have a lot more respect for me; I was clubbing with my girl last night, and while I went to the toilet, some htn tried getting close to her.
As soon as I got back and saw him trying to put his hand on my girl (who hadn't seen him because he was behind her), I started yelling:
"Get the fuck away! Get the FUCK away!"

I kept walking towards him and he had to walk backwards with his hands in front of his chest saying "sorry man. I'm sorry bro". The club was quite crowded so he stepped on people's shoes and they all got mad at him too JFL. I followed his ass for at least 4 meters across the club.
That dude was slightly taller than me so damn did it feel good to know that he feared me.
Anyway he could tell that I mogged him back to the ghettoes of Birmingham or whatever shithole his anglo-cumskin-ass comes from, so he just accepted the BRUTAL mog and chickened out.

People tend to downplay this a lot and shout "muh muscles are male gaze", but actually being respected by other men is arguably as important as appealing to women.
How is your girl supposed to feel safe with you when literally 9/10 dudes on the street could pin your skinny ass to the ground and beat the living shit out of you all while groping your girl with their other hand.

Keep your girls safe guys.
Some men out there are cruel and ruthless. You need to be able to fight back or even better, make them not want to fuck with you in the first place. That's what gymcelling should be for: commanding respect.
...Then you can also dominate your girl in the bedroom and make her know she is submitted to you. That's what they crave!
Even the most femenist-militant women you know go home every day and crave to be brutally fucked by chad.
They want to feel like objects!

Spoiler: PC remark

I say this with great respect to all the females out there. It is just logical from an evolutionarily standpoint for them to want a dominant partner.

Who would your oneitis rather get pounded by?

View attachment 2113742
A 6'2 world-famous supermodel and "PSL GOD"

OR

View attachment 2113743

A gymmaxxed normie
?

​

Enough said.

Back to my journey.
If there's one thing that I enjoyed the most about my RAD-140 cycle, it's that I was able bulk all while keeping hollow cheeks!
The main reason I never really bulked or even lean bulked was because of the water retention caused by the ridiculously high amount of carbs needed.
On RAD-140, my muscles were consuming all those carbs like crazy, so I could be eating 3500kcal a day with 400g of carbs and still be debloated.

Also, I was allowed to have cheat days!!!
Remember this thread?

HELP!! I JUST BINGE ATE 10 COOKIES

THOSE SAINSBURY’S COOKIES! WHAT DO I DO BRO. I HADNT EATEN ANY IN MONTHS. I FUCKED MY DIET UP I FEEL LIKE DYING. I CANT EVEN DO CARDIO TOMORROW BECAUSE I TWISTED MY ANKLE. I’M TAKING RAD140 SO THAT SHOULD HELP A BIT. ILL TAKE FUROSEMIDE TO HELP AGAINST THE BLOAT ILL GET TOMORROW. FUARK I...

looksmax.org

Well, I was perfectly fine. No bloat the next day, no issues or whatsoever!


Yes, sometimes I did get bloated because of my high sodium intake on some days (more food --> more sodium) but I had my furosemide (80mg) on-hand to counter it and reset back to debloated hollow cheeks.

Also, I think I've found a hack to having hollow cheeks all year round, regardless of calorie, carb and sodium intakes. No fake prescriptions needed this time either!
But that's for my next thread...

HERE ARE MY RESULTS:

Spoiler: After

"Muh not that impressive"
Well yeah no shit dawg. I started at 60kg. I was severely underweight and had little to no muscle.
I'll hop on another cycle in a few months and get some real definition this time.


Anyway, I hope you learned something and that you are now about to hop on your first RAD-140 cycle.
If you don't have a girlfriend (ie no need to have a functioning dick for a few weeks) then you have absolutely no reason to not go for it.
Of course, do some more research before considering it.

My last tip is to ONLY buy from reputable sellers. Don't try to save a few bucks by getting your RAD-140 from some unknown vendor. There are a lot of fakes on the market that could really fuck your health up. Spend the extra money, for your safety. This stuff is dangerous!


Ask the all the questions you need. I'll answer what I can.


I wish you the best boys!



-pneumo

nice

 

[MassMogger]

not all women wanna be dominated in bed

Cope they love it

 

[Aromasin]

How tf is this in botb

So much bullshit in there, it’s a good thread but no where near botb

 

[DrunkenSailor]

Good thread ngl

Agree with most of the shit you say. Women wanna get fucked hard by a dominant male not some skinny ass twig who spends half of his day comparing himself to male models

Obviously face matters a lot as well as height and dick size but having a good body is net beneficial

 

[Deleted member 138051]

I PUT ON 12KG OF MUSCLE IN A MONTH AND A HALF

​

These were not newbie gains; I had started training 3 months prior and I only put on 2kg of muscle. Pathetic.
I was eating just above maintenance most weeks and cutting back to 1600kcals/day sometimes to debloat because "muh jb appeal".

I was 181.5cm/5'11 60kg/132lbs before I started my cycle. I puked my guts out on New Year's and was sick so I went from 64kg to 60kg in a week.

This is what I looked like before:

Spoiler: Before

A skinny twig.
Don't get me wrong, I still had good appeal to foids my age and younger (<=19). I had never been rejected by a foid in the club since uni started in September.

But let's be honest, who was I gonna fuck with that frame?
Do you think girls looked at me and craved sex with me?

If I've learned one thing over the past few months of having a GF (and a few side hoes ) and from reading the literature, is that
Women want to be DOMINATED in bed.

Who was I going to dominate looking like that? JFL.
I never was able to give my girl an orgasm. We had been having sex for 2 months, so I was getting kinda worried.

I then imagined her getting pounded by a 6'4 gymmaxxed chad and started to get insecure.
Who would she rather get fucked by? Well that tall jacked dude of course.

Any guy or girl who tells you the contrary is DELUSIONAL.


So I took action. I had been making no progress in so long so I looked at Performance-Enhancing Drugs (PEDs).
As any logical person, I wanted the most results with the least side effects.
And for that reason, steroids were off the table.

I researched Selective Androgen Receptor Modulators (SARMs) and in particular RAD-140, as it is often referred to as the most powerful SARM.

Source: naspcenter.org

I took into account the advantages and the drawbacks of RAD-140:

ADVANTAGES​	DRAWBACKS​
Increased muscle growth​	Suppresses natural Testosterone production​
Faster muscle repair​	Little knowledge on long-term side-effects​
Increased metabolic rate -> burns fat like crazy​	Illegal. Not FDA approved. Still a research chemical. Sold as "not for human consumption" to circumvent laws.​
No water retention unlike most other SARMS. Possible to keep hollow cheeks on cycle​	Reports of hair loss. Does not grow back for a number of people (reddit)​
Cheap. £86 for enough RAD-140 and Enclomiphene Citrate for an 8-week cycle​	Acne​
Increased endurance​	Increased aggressiveness and irritability​
	Risk of shutting down natural T production if Post-Cycle Treatment (PCT) is not taken seriously​
	Liver and other organ damage​

​

The advantages were enough to convince me.

However, could I fight back against the side-effects?
The only thing I could do was keep applying Benzoyl Peroxide (massive cope ) to keep the acne under control.
I also planned on taking a Selective Estrogen Receptor Modulator (SERM) throughout my cycle to keep a Test base and fight against the suppression.
The SERM I took was Enclomiphene Citrate (enclo).
I also had Dandelion Root supplements for liver health. Most people recommend NAC though.

How did the cycle go?
I started my cycle on Jan 17th. I started by taking 10mg every day, as that's what most people recommend.
I drastically changed my diet too. I started eating 3500kcal a day with approx 230g of protein and 400g of carbs.

Spoiler: What would be recommended for you?

You can check your Total Daily Energy Expenditure (TDEE) here, and find the best macros for your goals (cutting, maintaining, bulking):
https://tdeecalculator.net/

I also spent 2 hours in the gym, every day.
My split was Push-Pull. Yep. No legs (cope ), no rest days.
The fast muscle repair allowed me to maintain this split throughout my cycle.

Reminder of my day 1 stats:
5'11/181.5cm, 60kg/132lbs, approx 10-12% bf (assessed visually).

First week:

• +4kg. Likely water retention from all the carbs (350g+/day) I started eating.​
• crazy sex drive + a lot of cum​
• Feeling very aggressive​

Second week:

• +1kg. Comfortably sitting at 65kg.​
• Liquidy cum (meaning low sperm count)​
• Low energy​
• Low sex drive​
• Acne getting bad​

The second week is when suppression started to hit hard.
As I have a very horny girlfriend, I could not keep dealing with the sexual side effects.
I started taking enclo (6.25mg every day) on the first day of week 3.

Third week:

• +2kg​
• Cum still quite liquidy, yet less.​
• Cum tastes like "chemicals". Tastes like "it doesn't come from me". Source: my gf​
• Sex drive still not ideal. Erectile Dysfunction (ED) occurred twice this week.​
• Acne still bad, getting worse on forehead. Skin doesn't seem to heal.​
• Wanting to beat anyone up for the stupidest reasons​

By this time, I had ordered Melanotan II (MT2) for two reasons.
First, to get a tan in winter while all these cumskins are paler than my ass.
Second, to increase libido and get rock-solid erections. MT2 is used to produce erections in men with ED. Study: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9679884/

Fourth and fifth weeks:

• +5kg​
• Bumped RAD-140 up to 15mg a day​
• Bumped enclo up to 12.5mg a day on the first day of week 4​
• Acne stabilising. Having to deal with the acne scars from previous weeks.​
• Sex drive better. A few more occurences of ED.​
• Cum still tastes weird according to my gf​
• Spoiler

  even i found it to taste weird ngl
• More respect from dudes in clubs and the gym​
• Started beating my girlfriend ​

Sixth week:

• +2kg​
• Sex drive not good but better.​
• Acne stopped.​
• Still very irritable. My mum pointed it out on week 1 and she hadn't FaceTimed me since. Spoke again on day 5 of sixth week, and we argued jfl. she doesn't want to see or call me anymore ​
• My ED got really bad and girlfriend started to get embarassed and insecure.​
• I therefore decided to stop the cycle early and not go on for the full 8 weeks.​

For the next two weeks I kept taking 12.5mg enclo every day to get my hormones back to pre-cycle levels.
However I'll never know if they actually are because my broke-student ass is not paying £200 to get my bloods checked.

Also, keep in mind I was seeing my gf 3 days a week and having sex around 4 times every time we met up.
Of course my sex drive is altered by my heavy sexual activity.
But anyway, I doubt most of you reading this will have the same problem .

I'm grateful to not have experienced any hair loss.
Most people who experience hair loss from their RAD-140 cycles are either people who got scammed and bought pro-hormones instead of RAD-140, and/or people who were prone to Male Pattern Baldness (MPB) and suffered from it because the increased T from the enclo induced higher amounts of dihydrotestosterone (DHT) conversion.
It is common knowledge that DHT causes hair loss.

According to most experts (i.e. redditors), running a SARM + SERM cycle is the best way to go.

• It effectively fights suppression.​
• You don't run the (very slim) risk of getting shut down.​
• It prevents from losing gains post-cycle.​
• PCT is no longer necessary. No need to suffer the side effects from PCT.​
• You get a temporary (often 2-week) test boost after the cycle while you keep taking enclo.​

I agree.
The suppression did hit me quite hard, but running the enclo alongside my RAD-140 made it a lot less noticeable.
I am 20 days post cycle and I haven't noticed any muscle loss!

I now weigh 74kg/163lbs.
My bf% is still the approximately the same (assessed visually).
I can only assume that I put on 14kg/30lbs of pure muscle, but that would be crazy.
Usually people gain 4-9kg/9-20 lbs of muscle on a 8 week cycle of RAD-140 alone (some run it with MK-677 and get more gains, but they get water retention so no thanks).
I don't want to give false hopes so I'll stay on the safe side and say I gained 12kg/26lbs of muscle in 6 weeks.

Still, this is absolutely crazy.

I went from a pathetically skinny twig to a dude with a respectable physique.
I mainly focused on my shoulders, arms, upper pecs, and lats.
My pecs are still utter shit , but at least they bulge out now. I realised mid-cycle how shit my insertions and genetics were JFL.

Everyone, I mean everyone, has noticed the drastic change.
My mum cried when she saw me on FaceTime on week 6 because of how much I changed LOL.
Dudes have a lot more respect for me; I was clubbing with my girl last night, and while I went to the toilet, some htn tried getting close to her.
As soon as I got back and saw him trying to put his hand on my girl (who hadn't seen him because he was behind her), I started yelling:
"Get the fuck away! Get the FUCK away!"

I kept walking towards him and he had to walk backwards with his hands in front of his chest saying "sorry man. I'm sorry bro". The club was quite crowded so he stepped on people's shoes and they all got mad at him too JFL. I followed his ass for at least 4 meters across the club.
That dude was slightly taller than me so damn did it feel good to know that he feared me.
Anyway he could tell that I mogged him back to the ghettoes of Birmingham or whatever shithole his anglo-cumskin-ass comes from, so he just accepted the BRUTAL mog and chickened out.

People tend to downplay this a lot and shout "muh muscles are male gaze", but actually being respected by other men is arguably as important as appealing to women.
How is your girl supposed to feel safe with you when literally 9/10 dudes on the street could pin your skinny ass to the ground and beat the living shit out of you all while groping your girl with their other hand.

Keep your girls safe guys.
Some men out there are cruel and ruthless. You need to be able to fight back or even better, make them not want to fuck with you in the first place. That's what gymcelling should be for: commanding respect.
...Then you can also dominate your girl in the bedroom and make her know she is submitted to you. That's what they crave!
Even the most femenist-militant women you know go home every day and crave to be brutally fucked by chad.
They want to feel like objects!

Spoiler: PC remark

I say this with great respect to all the females out there. It is just logical from an evolutionarily standpoint for them to want a dominant partner.

Who would your oneitis rather get pounded by?

View attachment 2113742
A 6'2 world-famous supermodel and "PSL GOD"

OR

View attachment 2113743

A gymmaxxed normie
?

​

Enough said.

Back to my journey.
If there's one thing that I enjoyed the most about my RAD-140 cycle, it's that I was able bulk all while keeping hollow cheeks!
The main reason I never really bulked or even lean bulked was because of the water retention caused by the ridiculously high amount of carbs needed.
On RAD-140, my muscles were consuming all those carbs like crazy, so I could be eating 3500kcal a day with 400g of carbs and still be debloated.

Also, I was allowed to have cheat days!!!
Remember this thread?

HELP!! I JUST BINGE ATE 10 COOKIES

THOSE SAINSBURY’S COOKIES! WHAT DO I DO BRO. I HADNT EATEN ANY IN MONTHS. I FUCKED MY DIET UP I FEEL LIKE DYING. I CANT EVEN DO CARDIO TOMORROW BECAUSE I TWISTED MY ANKLE. I’M TAKING RAD140 SO THAT SHOULD HELP A BIT. ILL TAKE FUROSEMIDE TO HELP AGAINST THE BLOAT ILL GET TOMORROW. FUARK I...

looksmax.org

Well, I was perfectly fine. No bloat the next day, no issues or whatsoever!


Yes, sometimes I did get bloated because of my high sodium intake on some days (more food --> more sodium) but I had my furosemide (80mg) on-hand to counter it and reset back to debloated hollow cheeks.

Also, I think I've found a hack to having hollow cheeks all year round, regardless of calorie, carb and sodium intakes. No fake prescriptions needed this time either!
But that's for my next thread...

HERE ARE MY RESULTS:

Spoiler: After

"Muh not that impressive"
Well yeah no shit dawg. I started at 60kg. I was severely underweight and had little to no muscle.
I'll hop on another cycle in a few months and get some real definition this time.


Anyway, I hope you learned something and that you are now about to hop on your first RAD-140 cycle.
If you don't have a girlfriend (ie no need to have a functioning dick for a few weeks) then you have absolutely no reason to not go for it.
Of course, do some more research before considering it.

My last tip is to ONLY buy from reputable sellers. Don't try to save a few bucks by getting your RAD-140 from some unknown vendor. There are a lot of fakes on the market that could really fuck your health up. Spend the extra money, for your safety. This stuff is dangerous!


Ask the all the questions you need. I'll answer what I can.


I wish you the best boys!



-pneumo

Rad-140 is shit

 

[GrandeurStuff]

So much bullshit in there, it’s a good thread but no where near botb

It's only in botb because the thread owner is a Chad lol you forgot how this site is basically all about looks

 

[kiidz24]

even i found it to taste weird ngl​

Nigga wtf

 

[DarkoTheNihilist]

you did not put on 12kg muscle in a year, that's physiologically impossible. for one, i know your dumbass didn't get a dexa scan to know what the weight you put on is. spoiler: most of it was fat and water. Even if you had a myostatin deficency, took tren, and had perfect training you'd put on 5kgs of muscle max in your first year. if we were to assume youre not lying, we are talking to the next Mr. Olympia. yea no, ur just farming.

 

[Azie555]

I PUT ON 12KG OF MUSCLE IN A MONTH AND A HALF

​

These were not newbie gains; I had started training 3 months prior and I only put on 2kg of muscle. Pathetic.
I was eating just above maintenance most weeks and cutting back to 1600kcals/day sometimes to debloat because "muh jb appeal".

I was 181.5cm/5'11 60kg/132lbs before I started my cycle. I puked my guts out on New Year's and was sick so I went from 64kg to 60kg in a week.

This is what I looked like before:

Spoiler: Before

A skinny twig.
Don't get me wrong, I still had good appeal to foids my age and younger (<=19). I had never been rejected by a foid in the club since uni started in September.

But let's be honest, who was I gonna fuck with that frame?
Do you think girls looked at me and craved sex with me?

If I've learned one thing over the past few months of having a GF (and a few side hoes ) and from reading the literature, is that
Women want to be DOMINATED in bed.

Who was I going to dominate looking like that? JFL.
I never was able to give my girl an orgasm. We had been having sex for 2 months, so I was getting kinda worried.

I then imagined her getting pounded by a 6'4 gymmaxxed chad and started to get insecure.
Who would she rather get fucked by? Well that tall jacked dude of course.

Any guy or girl who tells you the contrary is DELUSIONAL.


So I took action. I had been making no progress in so long so I looked at Performance-Enhancing Drugs (PEDs).
As any logical person, I wanted the most results with the least side effects.
And for that reason, steroids were off the table.

I researched Selective Androgen Receptor Modulators (SARMs) and in particular RAD-140, as it is often referred to as the most powerful SARM.

Source: naspcenter.org

I took into account the advantages and the drawbacks of RAD-140:

ADVANTAGES​	DRAWBACKS​
Increased muscle growth​	Suppresses natural Testosterone production​
Faster muscle repair​	Little knowledge on long-term side-effects​
Increased metabolic rate -> burns fat like crazy​	Illegal. Not FDA approved. Still a research chemical. Sold as "not for human consumption" to circumvent laws.​
No water retention unlike most other SARMS. Possible to keep hollow cheeks on cycle​	Reports of hair loss. Does not grow back for a number of people (reddit)​
Cheap. £86 for enough RAD-140 and Enclomiphene Citrate for an 8-week cycle​	Acne​
Increased endurance​	Increased aggressiveness and irritability​
	Risk of shutting down natural T production if Post-Cycle Treatment (PCT) is not taken seriously​
	Liver and other organ damage​

​

The advantages were enough to convince me.

However, could I fight back against the side-effects?
The only thing I could do was keep applying Benzoyl Peroxide (massive cope ) to keep the acne under control.
I also planned on taking a Selective Estrogen Receptor Modulator (SERM) throughout my cycle to keep a Test base and fight against the suppression.
The SERM I took was Enclomiphene Citrate (enclo).
I also had Dandelion Root supplements for liver health. Most people recommend NAC though.

How did the cycle go?
I started my cycle on Jan 17th. I started by taking 10mg every day, as that's what most people recommend.
I drastically changed my diet too. I started eating 3500kcal a day with approx 230g of protein and 400g of carbs.

Spoiler: What would be recommended for you?

You can check your Total Daily Energy Expenditure (TDEE) here, and find the best macros for your goals (cutting, maintaining, bulking):
https://tdeecalculator.net/

I also spent 2 hours in the gym, every day.
My split was Push-Pull. Yep. No legs (cope ), no rest days.
The fast muscle repair allowed me to maintain this split throughout my cycle.

Reminder of my day 1 stats:
5'11/181.5cm, 60kg/132lbs, approx 10-12% bf (assessed visually).

First week:

• +4kg. Likely water retention from all the carbs (350g+/day) I started eating.​
• crazy sex drive + a lot of cum​
• Feeling very aggressive​

Second week:

• +1kg. Comfortably sitting at 65kg.​
• Liquidy cum (meaning low sperm count)​
• Low energy​
• Low sex drive​
• Acne getting bad​

The second week is when suppression started to hit hard.
As I have a very horny girlfriend, I could not keep dealing with the sexual side effects.
I started taking enclo (6.25mg every day) on the first day of week 3.

Third week:

• +2kg​
• Cum still quite liquidy, yet less.​
• Cum tastes like "chemicals". Tastes like "it doesn't come from me". Source: my gf​
• Sex drive still not ideal. Erectile Dysfunction (ED) occurred twice this week.​
• Acne still bad, getting worse on forehead. Skin doesn't seem to heal.​
• Wanting to beat anyone up for the stupidest reasons​

By this time, I had ordered Melanotan II (MT2) for two reasons.
First, to get a tan in winter while all these cumskins are paler than my ass.
Second, to increase libido and get rock-solid erections. MT2 is used to produce erections in men with ED. Study: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9679884/

Fourth and fifth weeks:

• +5kg​
• Bumped RAD-140 up to 15mg a day​
• Bumped enclo up to 12.5mg a day on the first day of week 4​
• Acne stabilising. Having to deal with the acne scars from previous weeks.​
• Sex drive better. A few more occurences of ED.​
• Cum still tastes weird according to my gf​
• Spoiler

  even i found it to taste weird ngl
• More respect from dudes in clubs and the gym​
• Started beating my girlfriend ​

Sixth week:

• +2kg​
• Sex drive not good but better.​
• Acne stopped.​
• Still very irritable. My mum pointed it out on week 1 and she hadn't FaceTimed me since. Spoke again on day 5 of sixth week, and we argued jfl. she doesn't want to see or call me anymore ​
• My ED got really bad and girlfriend started to get embarassed and insecure.​
• I therefore decided to stop the cycle early and not go on for the full 8 weeks.​

For the next two weeks I kept taking 12.5mg enclo every day to get my hormones back to pre-cycle levels.
However I'll never know if they actually are because my broke-student ass is not paying £200 to get my bloods checked.

Also, keep in mind I was seeing my gf 3 days a week and having sex around 4 times every time we met up.
Of course my sex drive is altered by my heavy sexual activity.
But anyway, I doubt most of you reading this will have the same problem .

I'm grateful to not have experienced any hair loss.
Most people who experience hair loss from their RAD-140 cycles are either people who got scammed and bought pro-hormones instead of RAD-140, and/or people who were prone to Male Pattern Baldness (MPB) and suffered from it because the increased T from the enclo induced higher amounts of dihydrotestosterone (DHT) conversion.
It is common knowledge that DHT causes hair loss.

According to most experts (i.e. redditors), running a SARM + SERM cycle is the best way to go.

• It effectively fights suppression.​
• You don't run the (very slim) risk of getting shut down.​
• It prevents from losing gains post-cycle.​
• PCT is no longer necessary. No need to suffer the side effects from PCT.​
• You get a temporary (often 2-week) test boost after the cycle while you keep taking enclo.​

I agree.
The suppression did hit me quite hard, but running the enclo alongside my RAD-140 made it a lot less noticeable.
I am 20 days post cycle and I haven't noticed any muscle loss!

I now weigh 74kg/163lbs.
My bf% is still the approximately the same (assessed visually).
I can only assume that I put on 14kg/30lbs of pure muscle, but that would be crazy.
Usually people gain 4-9kg/9-20 lbs of muscle on a 8 week cycle of RAD-140 alone (some run it with MK-677 and get more gains, but they get water retention so no thanks).
I don't want to give false hopes so I'll stay on the safe side and say I gained 12kg/26lbs of muscle in 6 weeks.

Still, this is absolutely crazy.

I went from a pathetically skinny twig to a dude with a respectable physique.
I mainly focused on my shoulders, arms, upper pecs, and lats.
My pecs are still utter shit , but at least they bulge out now. I realised mid-cycle how shit my insertions and genetics were JFL.

Everyone, I mean everyone, has noticed the drastic change.
My mum cried when she saw me on FaceTime on week 6 because of how much I changed LOL.
Dudes have a lot more respect for me; I was clubbing with my girl last night, and while I went to the toilet, some htn tried getting close to her.
As soon as I got back and saw him trying to put his hand on my girl (who hadn't seen him because he was behind her), I started yelling:
"Get the fuck away! Get the FUCK away!"

I kept walking towards him and he had to walk backwards with his hands in front of his chest saying "sorry man. I'm sorry bro". The club was quite crowded so he stepped on people's shoes and they all got mad at him too JFL. I followed his ass for at least 4 meters across the club.
That dude was slightly taller than me so damn did it feel good to know that he feared me.
Anyway he could tell that I mogged him back to the ghettoes of Birmingham or whatever shithole his anglo-cumskin-ass comes from, so he just accepted the BRUTAL mog and chickened out.

People tend to downplay this a lot and shout "muh muscles are male gaze", but actually being respected by other men is arguably as important as appealing to women.
How is your girl supposed to feel safe with you when literally 9/10 dudes on the street could pin your skinny ass to the ground and beat the living shit out of you all while groping your girl with their other hand.

Keep your girls safe guys.
Some men out there are cruel and ruthless. You need to be able to fight back or even better, make them not want to fuck with you in the first place. That's what gymcelling should be for: commanding respect.
...Then you can also dominate your girl in the bedroom and make her know she is submitted to you. That's what they crave!
Even the most femenist-militant women you know go home every day and crave to be brutally fucked by chad.
They want to feel like objects!

Spoiler: PC remark

I say this with great respect to all the females out there. It is just logical from an evolutionarily standpoint for them to want a dominant partner.

Who would your oneitis rather get pounded by?

View attachment 2113742
A 6'2 world-famous supermodel and "PSL GOD"

OR

View attachment 2113743

A gymmaxxed normie
?

​

Enough said.

Back to my journey.
If there's one thing that I enjoyed the most about my RAD-140 cycle, it's that I was able bulk all while keeping hollow cheeks!
The main reason I never really bulked or even lean bulked was because of the water retention caused by the ridiculously high amount of carbs needed.
On RAD-140, my muscles were consuming all those carbs like crazy, so I could be eating 3500kcal a day with 400g of carbs and still be debloated.

Also, I was allowed to have cheat days!!!
Remember this thread?

HELP!! I JUST BINGE ATE 10 COOKIES

THOSE SAINSBURY’S COOKIES! WHAT DO I DO BRO. I HADNT EATEN ANY IN MONTHS. I FUCKED MY DIET UP I FEEL LIKE DYING. I CANT EVEN DO CARDIO TOMORROW BECAUSE I TWISTED MY ANKLE. I’M TAKING RAD140 SO THAT SHOULD HELP A BIT. ILL TAKE FUROSEMIDE TO HELP AGAINST THE BLOAT ILL GET TOMORROW. FUARK I...

looksmax.org

Well, I was perfectly fine. No bloat the next day, no issues or whatsoever!


Yes, sometimes I did get bloated because of my high sodium intake on some days (more food --> more sodium) but I had my furosemide (80mg) on-hand to counter it and reset back to debloated hollow cheeks.

Also, I think I've found a hack to having hollow cheeks all year round, regardless of calorie, carb and sodium intakes. No fake prescriptions needed this time either!
But that's for my next thread...

HERE ARE MY RESULTS:

Spoiler: After

"Muh not that impressive"
Well yeah no shit dawg. I started at 60kg. I was severely underweight and had little to no muscle.
I'll hop on another cycle in a few months and get some real definition this time.


Anyway, I hope you learned something and that you are now about to hop on your first RAD-140 cycle.
If you don't have a girlfriend (ie no need to have a functioning dick for a few weeks) then you have absolutely no reason to not go for it.
Of course, do some more research before considering it.

My last tip is to ONLY buy from reputable sellers. Don't try to save a few bucks by getting your RAD-140 from some unknown vendor. There are a lot of fakes on the market that could really fuck your health up. Spend the extra money, for your safety. This stuff is dangerous!


Ask the all the questions you need. I'll answer what I can.


I wish you the best boys!



-pneumo

im 16 would there any be bad severe side affects of using RAD 140?

 

[yadih]

im 16 would there any be bad severe side affects of using RAD 140?

nah bro it's completely safe it's 13+ so ur all good

 

[Deleted member 110192]

I PUT ON 12KG OF MUSCLE IN A MONTH AND A HALF

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These were not newbie gains; I had started training 3 months prior and I only put on 2kg of muscle. Pathetic.
I was eating just above maintenance most weeks and cutting back to 1600kcals/day sometimes to debloat because "muh jb appeal".

I was 181.5cm/5'11 60kg/132lbs before I started my cycle. I puked my guts out on New Year's and was sick so I went from 64kg to 60kg in a week.

This is what I looked like before:

Spoiler: Before

A skinny twig.
Don't get me wrong, I still had good appeal to foids my age and younger (<=19). I had never been rejected by a foid in the club since uni started in September.

But let's be honest, who was I gonna fuck with that frame?
Do you think girls looked at me and craved sex with me?

If I've learned one thing over the past few months of having a GF (and a few side hoes ) and from reading the literature, is that
Women want to be DOMINATED in bed.

Who was I going to dominate looking like that? JFL.
I never was able to give my girl an orgasm. We had been having sex for 2 months, so I was getting kinda worried.

I then imagined her getting pounded by a 6'4 gymmaxxed chad and started to get insecure.
Who would she rather get fucked by? Well that tall jacked dude of course.

Any guy or girl who tells you the contrary is DELUSIONAL.


So I took action. I had been making no progress in so long so I looked at Performance-Enhancing Drugs (PEDs).
As any logical person, I wanted the most results with the least side effects.
And for that reason, steroids were off the table.

I researched Selective Androgen Receptor Modulators (SARMs) and in particular RAD-140, as it is often referred to as the most powerful SARM.

Source: naspcenter.org

I took into account the advantages and the drawbacks of RAD-140:

ADVANTAGES​	DRAWBACKS​
Increased muscle growth​	Suppresses natural Testosterone production​
Faster muscle repair​	Little knowledge on long-term side-effects​
Increased metabolic rate -> burns fat like crazy​	Illegal. Not FDA approved. Still a research chemical. Sold as "not for human consumption" to circumvent laws.​
No water retention unlike most other SARMS. Possible to keep hollow cheeks on cycle​	Reports of hair loss. Does not grow back for a number of people (reddit)​
Cheap. £86 for enough RAD-140 and Enclomiphene Citrate for an 8-week cycle​	Acne​
Increased endurance​	Increased aggressiveness and irritability​
	Risk of shutting down natural T production if Post-Cycle Treatment (PCT) is not taken seriously​
	Liver and other organ damage​

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The advantages were enough to convince me.

However, could I fight back against the side-effects?
The only thing I could do was keep applying Benzoyl Peroxide (massive cope ) to keep the acne under control.
I also planned on taking a Selective Estrogen Receptor Modulator (SERM) throughout my cycle to keep a Test base and fight against the suppression.
The SERM I took was Enclomiphene Citrate (enclo).
I also had Dandelion Root supplements for liver health. Most people recommend NAC though.

How did the cycle go?
I started my cycle on Jan 17th. I started by taking 10mg every day, as that's what most people recommend.
I drastically changed my diet too. I started eating 3500kcal a day with approx 230g of protein and 400g of carbs.

Spoiler: What would be recommended for you?

You can check your Total Daily Energy Expenditure (TDEE) here, and find the best macros for your goals (cutting, maintaining, bulking):
https://tdeecalculator.net/

I also spent 2 hours in the gym, every day.
My split was Push-Pull. Yep. No legs (cope ), no rest days.
The fast muscle repair allowed me to maintain this split throughout my cycle.

Reminder of my day 1 stats:
5'11/181.5cm, 60kg/132lbs, approx 10-12% bf (assessed visually).

First week:

• +4kg. Likely water retention from all the carbs (350g+/day) I started eating.​
• crazy sex drive + a lot of cum​
• Feeling very aggressive​

Second week:

• +1kg. Comfortably sitting at 65kg.​
• Liquidy cum (meaning low sperm count)​
• Low energy​
• Low sex drive​
• Acne getting bad​

The second week is when suppression started to hit hard.
As I have a very horny girlfriend, I could not keep dealing with the sexual side effects.
I started taking enclo (6.25mg every day) on the first day of week 3.

Third week:

• +2kg​
• Cum still quite liquidy, yet less.​
• Cum tastes like "chemicals". Tastes like "it doesn't come from me". Source: my gf​
• Sex drive still not ideal. Erectile Dysfunction (ED) occurred twice this week.​
• Acne still bad, getting worse on forehead. Skin doesn't seem to heal.​
• Wanting to beat anyone up for the stupidest reasons​

By this time, I had ordered Melanotan II (MT2) for two reasons.
First, to get a tan in winter while all these cumskins are paler than my ass.
Second, to increase libido and get rock-solid erections. MT2 is used to produce erections in men with ED. Study: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9679884/

Fourth and fifth weeks:

• +5kg​
• Bumped RAD-140 up to 15mg a day​
• Bumped enclo up to 12.5mg a day on the first day of week 4​
• Acne stabilising. Having to deal with the acne scars from previous weeks.​
• Sex drive better. A few more occurences of ED.​
• Cum still tastes weird according to my gf​
• Spoiler

  even i found it to taste weird ngl
• More respect from dudes in clubs and the gym​
• Started beating my girlfriend ​

Sixth week:

• +2kg​
• Sex drive not good but better.​
• Acne stopped.​
• Still very irritable. My mum pointed it out on week 1 and she hadn't FaceTimed me since. Spoke again on day 5 of sixth week, and we argued jfl. she doesn't want to see or call me anymore ​
• My ED got really bad and girlfriend started to get embarassed and insecure.​
• I therefore decided to stop the cycle early and not go on for the full 8 weeks.​

For the next two weeks I kept taking 12.5mg enclo every day to get my hormones back to pre-cycle levels.
However I'll never know if they actually are because my broke-student ass is not paying £200 to get my bloods checked.

Also, keep in mind I was seeing my gf 3 days a week and having sex around 4 times every time we met up.
Of course my sex drive is altered by my heavy sexual activity.
But anyway, I doubt most of you reading this will have the same problem .

I'm grateful to not have experienced any hair loss.
Most people who experience hair loss from their RAD-140 cycles are either people who got scammed and bought pro-hormones instead of RAD-140, and/or people who were prone to Male Pattern Baldness (MPB) and suffered from it because the increased T from the enclo induced higher amounts of dihydrotestosterone (DHT) conversion.
It is common knowledge that DHT causes hair loss.

According to most experts (i.e. redditors), running a SARM + SERM cycle is the best way to go.

• It effectively fights suppression.​
• You don't run the (very slim) risk of getting shut down.​
• It prevents from losing gains post-cycle.​
• PCT is no longer necessary. No need to suffer the side effects from PCT.​
• You get a temporary (often 2-week) test boost after the cycle while you keep taking enclo.​

I agree.
The suppression did hit me quite hard, but running the enclo alongside my RAD-140 made it a lot less noticeable.
I am 20 days post cycle and I haven't noticed any muscle loss!

I now weigh 74kg/163lbs.
My bf% is still the approximately the same (assessed visually).
I can only assume that I put on 14kg/30lbs of pure muscle, but that would be crazy.
Usually people gain 4-9kg/9-20 lbs of muscle on a 8 week cycle of RAD-140 alone (some run it with MK-677 and get more gains, but they get water retention so no thanks).
I don't want to give false hopes so I'll stay on the safe side and say I gained 12kg/26lbs of muscle in 6 weeks.

Still, this is absolutely crazy.

I went from a pathetically skinny twig to a dude with a respectable physique.
I mainly focused on my shoulders, arms, upper pecs, and lats.
My pecs are still utter shit , but at least they bulge out now. I realised mid-cycle how shit my insertions and genetics were JFL.

Everyone, I mean everyone, has noticed the drastic change.
My mum cried when she saw me on FaceTime on week 6 because of how much I changed LOL.
Dudes have a lot more respect for me; I was clubbing with my girl last night, and while I went to the toilet, some htn tried getting close to her.
As soon as I got back and saw him trying to put his hand on my girl (who hadn't seen him because he was behind her), I started yelling:
"Get the fuck away! Get the FUCK away!"

I kept walking towards him and he had to walk backwards with his hands in front of his chest saying "sorry man. I'm sorry bro". The club was quite crowded so he stepped on people's shoes and they all got mad at him too JFL. I followed his ass for at least 4 meters across the club.
That dude was slightly taller than me so damn did it feel good to know that he feared me.
Anyway he could tell that I mogged him back to the ghettoes of Birmingham or whatever shithole his anglo-cumskin-ass comes from, so he just accepted the BRUTAL mog and chickened out.

People tend to downplay this a lot and shout "muh muscles are male gaze", but actually being respected by other men is arguably as important as appealing to women.
How is your girl supposed to feel safe with you when literally 9/10 dudes on the street could pin your skinny ass to the ground and beat the living shit out of you all while groping your girl with their other hand.

Keep your girls safe guys.
Some men out there are cruel and ruthless. You need to be able to fight back or even better, make them not want to fuck with you in the first place. That's what gymcelling should be for: commanding respect.
...Then you can also dominate your girl in the bedroom and make her know she is submitted to you. That's what they crave!
Even the most femenist-militant women you know go home every day and crave to be brutally fucked by chad.
They want to feel like objects!

Spoiler: PC remark

I say this with great respect to all the females out there. It is just logical from an evolutionarily standpoint for them to want a dominant partner.

Who would your oneitis rather get pounded by?

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A 6'2 world-famous supermodel and "PSL GOD"

OR

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A gymmaxxed normie
?

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Enough said.

Back to my journey.
If there's one thing that I enjoyed the most about my RAD-140 cycle, it's that I was able bulk all while keeping hollow cheeks!
The main reason I never really bulked or even lean bulked was because of the water retention caused by the ridiculously high amount of carbs needed.
On RAD-140, my muscles were consuming all those carbs like crazy, so I could be eating 3500kcal a day with 400g of carbs and still be debloated.

Also, I was allowed to have cheat days!!!
Remember this thread?

HELP!! I JUST BINGE ATE 10 COOKIES

THOSE SAINSBURY’S COOKIES! WHAT DO I DO BRO. I HADNT EATEN ANY IN MONTHS. I FUCKED MY DIET UP I FEEL LIKE DYING. I CANT EVEN DO CARDIO TOMORROW BECAUSE I TWISTED MY ANKLE. I’M TAKING RAD140 SO THAT SHOULD HELP A BIT. ILL TAKE FUROSEMIDE TO HELP AGAINST THE BLOAT ILL GET TOMORROW. FUARK I...

looksmax.org

Well, I was perfectly fine. No bloat the next day, no issues or whatsoever!


Yes, sometimes I did get bloated because of my high sodium intake on some days (more food --> more sodium) but I had my furosemide (80mg) on-hand to counter it and reset back to debloated hollow cheeks.

Also, I think I've found a hack to having hollow cheeks all year round, regardless of calorie, carb and sodium intakes. No fake prescriptions needed this time either!
But that's for my next thread...

HERE ARE MY RESULTS:

Spoiler: After

"Muh not that impressive"
Well yeah no shit dawg. I started at 60kg. I was severely underweight and had little to no muscle.
I'll hop on another cycle in a few months and get some real definition this time.


Anyway, I hope you learned something and that you are now about to hop on your first RAD-140 cycle.
If you don't have a girlfriend (ie no need to have a functioning dick for a few weeks) then you have absolutely no reason to not go for it.
Of course, do some more research before considering it.

My last tip is to ONLY buy from reputable sellers. Don't try to save a few bucks by getting your RAD-140 from some unknown vendor. There are a lot of fakes on the market that could really fuck your health up. Spend the extra money, for your safety. This stuff is dangerous!


Ask the all the questions you need. I'll answer what I can.


I wish you the best boys!



-pneumo

why is this in BOTB

 

[Sepsin]

why didn't he opt for LGD4003 instead?

much better gains:bloodwork ratio than rad140

 

[ZyzzReincarnate]

haha love to see the new generation doing what i did back in the day

 

[slaters]

haha love to see the new generation doing what i did back in the day

Can u start a dm w me js wanna show u smthn

 

[Brian Weber]

any height difference?

 

[Moggable]

haha love to see the new generation doing what i did back in the day

Jfl I had that post of yours as one of my earliest bookmarks but by the time I came across it you’d already deleted long ago.

Mirin ahead of the curveness

 

[ZyzzReincarnate]

Jfl I had that post of yours as one of my earliest bookmarks but by the time I came across it you’d already deleted long ago.

Mirin ahead of the curveness

Ahahaha i never got any thread of mine deleted im p sure my fren

 

[ssxjdgh]

why didn't he opt for LGD4003 instead?

much better gains:bloodwork ratio than rad140

Is LGD really better? How does it compare to 500mg test?

 

[tomahawk]

Dont take rad. Its not worth the liver damage

 

[Bajio]

pneumoooooo