I respect atheists, but i don't get it

[volgograd009]

You cannot explain that big bang happened by itself, energy does not come out of nowhere. You cannot explain that humans were originally monkeys, why did the other monkeys didn't evolve, the laws of evolution works just on certain monkeys? It just doesn't make sense

 

[Hollywood]

Are you religious ?

 

[volgograd009]

Are you religious ?

I am

 

[Azi.org]

Nothing can be explained

 

[Trenscension]

You cannot explain that big bang happened by itself, energy does not come out of nowhere. You cannot explain that humans were originally monkeys, why did the other monkeys didn't evolve, the laws of evolution works just on certain monkeys? It just doesn't make sense

and can you explain how an unproven entity created reality from nothing? the burden of proof goes both ways

 

[Hollywood]

I am

What religion ?

 

[rollthefuckingdice]

You cannot explain that big bang happened by itself, energy does not come out of nowhere. You cannot explain that humans were originally monkeys, why did the other monkeys didn't evolve, the laws of evolution works just on certain monkeys? It just doesn't make sense

im an atheist
look those types of atheist are just mental retards trying to shove there shit into others
what i believe in as an athiest is that i myself should not focus on where i came from who created me or where ill go when i die those things will remain unknown
i believe that i should live for myself and focus on living my life and enjoying it to the fullest

 

[ToDelirium]

Its pretty simple to understand even if ur not one

 

[volgograd009]

and can you explain how an unproven entity created reality from nothing? the burden of proof goes both ways

We do not have any information of what the all powerful entity was doing before

 

[volgograd009]

What religion ?

Islam

 

[ShamelessClubSlut]

and can you explain how an unproven entity created reality from nothing? the burden of proof goes both ways

“He always existed” is the usual response I hear from this, which is funny for the obvious reasons

 

[Azi.org]

Atheists who believe in big bang are stupid its another theory based religion you can not prove agnostic atheists on the other hand are sophisticated

 

[Tenres]

and can you explain how an unproven entity created reality from nothing? the burden of proof goes both ways

Yeah just a quick list of commitments that most theists will be / are committed to:

There are material and immaterial things
Material and immaterial things interact
Their interactions are extremely precise and accurate
There are things that are completely non spatiotemporal
That non spatiotemporal being causes time and space to exist
Timeless causation is real
That completely non spatiotemporal entity is minded

 

[rollthefuckingdice]

Atheists who believe in big bang are stupid its another theory based religion you can not prove agnostic atheists on the other hand are sophisticated

truth nuke

 

[volgograd009]

im an atheist
look those types of atheist are just mental retards trying to shove there shit into others
what i believe in as an athiest is that i myself should not focus on where i came from who created me or where ill go when i die those things will remain unknown
i believe that i should live for myself and focus on living my life and enjoying it to the fullest

Do you not think that you can enjoy your life while also pleasing God?

 

[Trenscension]

We do not have any information of what the all powerful entity was doing before

exactly my point. like @Azi.org said, nothing can really be proven with certainty when it comes to events that happened billions of years ago

 

[volgograd009]

Atheists who believe in big bang are stupid its another theory based religion you can not prove agnostic atheists on the other hand are sophisticated

I believe in big bang also

 

[Azi.org]

“He always existed” is the usual response I hear from this, which is funny for the obvious reasons

a common arguement against god always existed is that the universe always existed but if the universe always existed than you fall into the time paradox if the universe has existed for infinte time that means there is infinte past an infinte past cant reach a point in the future as it goes infintetly back saying the universe is infinte is as absurd as saying an entity is infinte

 

[Azi.org]

I believe in big bang also

Its seems plausible but i dont believe humans know the truth i believe we dont know

 

[rollthefuckingdice]

Do you not think that you can enjoy your life while also pleasing God?

i simply do not care maybe call me agnostic i guess
i feel that stressing over the presence of a creature that will punish me simply for creating me will lower the quality of my life so i try to ignore it

 

[Anamnesis]

bro just watch digital circus on repeat all day

our intelligence does not allow us to know the truth

 

[Hollywood]

Islam

So you "get" islam but you don't "get" atheism ?

 

[them streets b cold]

normie religious people are better people overall but that doesn't make religions legitimate

 

[volgograd009]

Its seems plausible but i dont believe humans know the truth i believe we dont know

Yeah i think that God is the one that gave that energy for the big bang to happen and let the universe form itself

 

[volgograd009]

So you "get" islam but you don't "get" atheism ?

What is wrong with islam?

 

[ＥＳＲ]

You cannot explain that big bang happened by itself, energy does not come out of nowhere. You cannot explain that humans were originally monkeys, why did the other monkeys didn't evolve, the laws of evolution works just on certain monkeys? It just doesn't make sense

We weren’t monkeys
Jst read the introduction of evolution theory
And u will know that u saying bs

 

[Ozchyn]

energy does not come out of nowhere.

but god does?

You cannot explain that humans were originally monkeys, why did the other monkeys didn't evolve, the laws of evolution works just on certain monkeys? It just doesn't make sense

could lowkey probably be the most answered question by evolutionists

 

[rollthefuckingdice]

Yeah i think that God is the one that gave that energy for the big bang to happen and let the universe form itself

i see what your doing mixing science with religion i do not encourage that in my opinion

 

[Azi.org]

Yeah i think that God is the one that gave that energy for the big bang to happen and let the universe form itself

Yes thats a strong point becuase the main flaw with atheism is existence itself because if there never could be nothing as if there simply was nothing nothing would ever exist but if they say there was always something that means that something has existed for infinty but if it has then how are we here now as it would be infinte time past however with a cause that point no longer becomes a flaw as with god you have a cause

 

[Ozchyn]

We weren’t monkeys
Jst read the introduction of evolution theory
And u will know that u saying bs

literally. we are a different kind... jesus... just because we look alike doesn't mean we were monkeys

 

[Tenres]

You cannot explain that big bang happened by itself, energy does not come out of nowhere. You cannot explain that humans were originally monkeys, why did the other monkeys didn't evolve, the laws of evolution works just on certain monkeys? It just doesn't make sense

Also modern science is NOT committed to any of this. No one says the Big bang "happened by itself," theories of quantum mechanics and relativity just break down. They don't try to map that space of reality and we don't have any theories that confirmably do.

Energy thing is the same, yes it's drastically unlikely you would have extremely low entropy at the Big bang according to our best theories, but our best theories again break down (signs like getting infinitely high or infinitely low values) so that's just as much evidence that the theories are simply wrong in that respect. So if some theory tell us that something we know happened had a 1/10^120 chance of happening, then it could be evidence for a miracle but also that the theory is simply bad at explaining the phenomenon.

And no one thinks monkeys became humans, they had children who through millions of years through random mutation and selection had generations of offspring, some of who's distant relatives are homosapiens. (Or something like that)

 

[volgograd009]

literally. we are a different kind... jesus... just because we look alike doesn't mean we were monkeys

Yes but still we were all primates why didn't they evolve too?

 

[Hypergam0us]

You cannot explain that big bang happened by itself, energy does not come out of nowhere. You cannot explain that humans were originally monkeys, why did the other monkeys didn't evolve, the laws of evolution works just on certain monkeys? It just doesn't make sense

do your research and use critical thinking skills and if it gets through your normie brain then it will make sense

 

[iblamejordan1]

You cannot explain that big bang happened by itself, energy does not come out of nowhere. You cannot explain that humans were originally monkeys, why did the other monkeys didn't evolve, the laws of evolution works just on certain monkeys? It just doesn't make sense

le dork squad

 

[volgograd009]

i see what your doing mixing science with religion i do not encourage that in my opinion

This is what God would want us to do i think

 

[Hollywood]

What is wrong with islam?

Where did I say there is anything WRONG with Islam?

Classic, going on the offence to make others feel uncomfortable about criticising a POV ..

I just fundamentally don't understand how you can worship a God and be invested in an ideology that you have no proof of, but will on the other hand say you don't "get" atheism ??

It's pretty much the exact same principle mate ..

 

[Ozchyn]

Yes but still we were all primates why didn't they evolve too?

their environment didn't push them too

 

[0runz.]

yes yes i believe in god in 2026

 

[rollthefuckingdice]

Yes thats a strong point becuase the main flaw with atheism is existence itself because if there never could be nothing as if there simply was nothing nothing would ever exist but if they say there was always something that means that something has existed for infinty but if it has then how are we here now as it would be infinte time past however with a cause that point no longer becomes a flaw as with god you have a cause

i believe that if you consider pleasing god the only casue in your life that your not truly living it do you really have motives in life please rethi9nk what you typed there

 

[Azi.org]

i believe that if you consider pleasing god the only casue in your life that your not truly living it do you really have motives in life please rethi9nk what you typed there

Replied to wrong person?

 

[rollthefuckingdice]

This is what God would want us to do i think

if thats what you believe that s you man im not here to push any ideas on you

 

[volgograd009]

Where did I say there is anything WRONG with Islam?

Classic, going on the offence to make others feel uncomfortable about criticising a POV ..

I just fundamentally don't understand how you can worship a God and be invested in an ideology that you have no proof of, but will on the other hand say you don't "get" atheism ??

It's pretty much the exact same principle mate ..

Oh my God bro i didn't go on offence or anything ffs. But yeah a middle aged salesman bedouin arab who is illiterate and has all that information of tribes that died centuries before is pretty convincing to me

 

[rollthefuckingdice]

Replied to wrong person?

no im speaking for what you said there the whole issue with existence and having no cause in life simply bc you dont believe in a mythological creature

 

[Tenres]

i see what your doing mixing science with religion i do not encourage that in my opinion

WLC and Sean Carroll talked about this in their debate and I think they were correct to say that religious people SHOULD be engaging with science in regards to what they believe and the arguments they make. Fine tuning for example is a 'genuine' attempt at giving a hypothesis that explains the data with a higher probability than the null.

 

[Azi.org]

no im speaking for what you said there the whole issue with existence and having no cause in life simply bc you dont believe in a mythological creature

I didnt mean cause as in reason for life i meant what caused the universe what started all life not in the way you interpreted mb if i was not clear

 

[rollthefuckingdice]

WLC and Sean Carroll talked about this in their debate and I think they were correct to say that religious people SHOULD be engaging with science in regards to what they believe and the arguments they make. Fine tuning for example is a 'genuine' attempt at giving a hypothesis that explains the data with a higher probability than the null.

i agree but not in islam trust me its a whole different planet

 

[rollthefuckingdice]

I didnt mean cause as in reason for life i meant what caused the universe what started all life not in the way you interpreted mb if i was not clear

i see i apologies as well

 

[Azi.org]

i see i apologies as well

Np

 

[thickbitch]

Islam

Makes sense why your arguments are so ass

 

[Tenres]

Yes thats a strong point becuase the main flaw with atheism is existence itself because if there never could be nothing as if there simply was nothing nothing would ever exist but if they say there was always something that means that something has existed for infinty but if it has then how are we here now as it would be infinte time past however with a cause that point no longer becomes a flaw as with god you have a cause

There's at least 3 good responses to the non existence point