I want u guys to read this comment very carefully because it sums up religious idiocy and cognitive dissonance perfectly

[vanillaicecream]

"I believe matter creating itself is illogical so what I'm going to do instead to solve that is believe in something infinitely more complicated than matter, that does create itself, because I don't understand how special pleading is a fallacy or the concept of multiplying entities"

See? See what I'm talking about here?

 

[T50frompitsofhell]

It's just a survival mechanism. You either believe in him or you don't based on your ancestors survival pressures. Logical arguments are post hoc

 

[vanillaicecream]

It's just a survival mechanism. You either believe in him or you don't based on your ancestors survival pressures. Logical arguments are post hoc

It's still crazy how they don't hear themselves at all. "I believe self-creating matter is illogical, which is why I believe in a self-creating complicated and multi-faceted entity that can read the minds of every person in the world at once"

 

[Deleted member 131140]

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"I believe matter creating itself is illogical so what I'm going to do instead to solve that is believe in something infinitely more complicated than matter, that does create itself, because I don't understand how special pleading is a fallacy or the concept of multiplies entities"

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See? See what I'm talking about here?

Jordan Peterson tier word salad. Fucking brutal the lengths they go to to justify this bullshit

 

[Deleted member 20890]

which is why I believe in a self-creating

Strawman.

 

[Deleted member 130748]

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"I believe matter creating itself is illogical so what I'm going to do instead to solve that is believe in something infinitely more complicated than matter, that does create itself, because I don't understand how special pleading is a fallacy or the concept of multiplying entities"

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See? See what I'm talking about here?

@PrinceLuenLeoncur can you debunk this?

 

[vanillaicecream]

Strawman.

That's literally what he said

 

[Deleted member 20890]

That's literally what he said

No, it’s not.

 

[Sonneillon]

Calls me retard while writing like one
Ragebaiting religiouscopers will never get boring

 

[vanillaicecream]

No, it’s not.

Yes, it is. Both matter "creating" itself or an "uncreated" god have no precursors and pop into existence out of nothing.

 

[Godera]

Are you atheist

 

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"I believe matter creating itself is illogical so what I'm going to do instead to solve that is believe in something infinitely more complicated than matter, that does create itself, because I don't understand how special pleading is a fallacy or the concept of multiplying entities"

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See? See what I'm talking about here?

Literally why do you care

 

[vanillaicecream]

Are you atheist

Buddhist

 

[Godera]

Buddhist

Why do you think we will be reincarnated

 

[Deleted member 20890]

Yes, it is. Both matter "creating" itself or an "uncreated" god have no precursors and pop into existence out of nothing.

No, the user is not saying God “popped into” existence.

 

[vanillaicecream]

Why do you think we will be reincarnated

I don't

No, the user is not saying God “popped into” existence.

You're right but the point still stands because a god that has always existed shouldn't be any more believable and plausible than self-creating matter

 

[Godera]

I don't


You're right but the point still stands because a god that has always existed shouldn't be any more believable and plausible than self-creating matter

Wtf is buddhism about then?

 

[Petsmart]

Wtf is buddhism about then?

It’s about taking the power of Buddha up your asshole

 

[Altruist]

It's just a survival mechanism. You either believe in him or you don't based on your ancestors survival pressures. Logical arguments are post hoc

 

[vanillaicecream]

Wtf is buddhism about then?

The main teachings of Buddhism revolve around understanding the nature of suffering, its causes, and how to overcome it. These teachings are encapsulated in the Four Noble Truths and the Eightfold Path:

1. The Four Noble Truths:​

1. The Truth of Suffering (Dukkha): Life involves suffering, which can take many forms—physical pain, emotional distress, and dissatisfaction. Even pleasure is temporary and ultimately unsatisfying.
2. The Truth of the Cause of Suffering (Samudaya): The cause of suffering is attachment (tanha) and craving, as well as ignorance (avidya) about the true nature of existence. Desire and attachment to things, people, or experiences lead to suffering.
3. The Truth of the End of Suffering (Nirodha): Suffering can be overcome by eliminating attachment and craving, which leads to the cessation of suffering. This state is called Nirvana, a state of liberation and peace.
4. The Truth of the Path Leading to the End of Suffering (Magga): There is a path to end suffering, known as the Eightfold Path, which is a guide for ethical conduct, mental discipline, and wisdom.

2. The Eightfold Path:​

The Eightfold Path consists of eight interconnected practices or guidelines that lead to the cessation of suffering and the attainment of enlightenment:

1. Right Understanding (View): Understanding the Four Noble Truths and the nature of reality.
2. Right Intent (Thought): Cultivating positive intentions, such as compassion and non-violence.
3. Right Speech: Speaking truthfully, kindly, and avoiding harmful speech.
4. Right Action: Acting ethically, avoiding harm to others, and following moral precepts.
5. Right Livelihood: Earning a living in a way that does not cause harm to others.
6. Right Effort: Cultivating good qualities and abandoning harmful ones through diligent effort.
7. Right Mindfulness: Developing awareness of the present moment and understanding the nature of thoughts, feelings, and actions.
8. Right Concentration: Practicing meditation to develop mental clarity and focus, leading to wisdom.

Additional Key Teachings:​

• Impermanence (Anicca): All things are transient and constantly changing. Nothing is permanent.
• Non-Self (Anatta): There is no permanent, unchanging self or soul. The concept of "self" is a collection of changing physical and mental processes.
• Karma: Actions have consequences, and one's actions (intentions, speech, and behavior) create future experiences, either positive or negative.
• Compassion and Loving-kindness (Metta): Cultivating compassion for all beings and striving to alleviate suffering.

These teachings are meant to guide practitioners toward enlightenment (nirvana), the end of suffering, and liberation from the cycle of birth, death, and rebirth (samsara).

 

[vanillaicecream]

Also I meant to say I'm an atheist Buddhist

 

[Godera]

The main teachings of Buddhism revolve around understanding the nature of suffering, its causes, and how to overcome it. These teachings are encapsulated in the Four Noble Truths and the Eightfold Path:

1. The Four Noble Truths:​

1. The Truth of Suffering (Dukkha): Life involves suffering, which can take many forms—physical pain, emotional distress, and dissatisfaction. Even pleasure is temporary and ultimately unsatisfying.
2. The Truth of the Cause of Suffering (Samudaya): The cause of suffering is attachment (tanha) and craving, as well as ignorance (avidya) about the true nature of existence. Desire and attachment to things, people, or experiences lead to suffering.
3. The Truth of the End of Suffering (Nirodha): Suffering can be overcome by eliminating attachment and craving, which leads to the cessation of suffering. This state is called Nirvana, a state of liberation and peace.
4. The Truth of the Path Leading to the End of Suffering (Magga): There is a path to end suffering, known as the Eightfold Path, which is a guide for ethical conduct, mental discipline, and wisdom.

2. The Eightfold Path:​

The Eightfold Path consists of eight interconnected practices or guidelines that lead to the cessation of suffering and the attainment of enlightenment:

1. Right Understanding (View): Understanding the Four Noble Truths and the nature of reality.
2. Right Intent (Thought): Cultivating positive intentions, such as compassion and non-violence.
3. Right Speech: Speaking truthfully, kindly, and avoiding harmful speech.
4. Right Action: Acting ethically, avoiding harm to others, and following moral precepts.
5. Right Livelihood: Earning a living in a way that does not cause harm to others.
6. Right Effort: Cultivating good qualities and abandoning harmful ones through diligent effort.
7. Right Mindfulness: Developing awareness of the present moment and understanding the nature of thoughts, feelings, and actions.
8. Right Concentration: Practicing meditation to develop mental clarity and focus, leading to wisdom.

Additional Key Teachings:​

• Impermanence (Anicca): All things are transient and constantly changing. Nothing is permanent.
• Non-Self (Anatta): There is no permanent, unchanging self or soul. The concept of "self" is a collection of changing physical and mental processes.
• Karma: Actions have consequences, and one's actions (intentions, speech, and behavior) create future experiences, either positive or negative.
• Compassion and Loving-kindness (Metta): Cultivating compassion for all beings and striving to alleviate suffering.

These teachings are meant to guide practitioners toward enlightenment (nirvana), the end of suffering, and liberation from the cycle of birth, death, and rebirth (samsara).

Interesting, i'll look further into this. I want to accept my incel fate, but why do i gotta be kind to others and stuff?

 

[vanillaicecream]

Interesting, i'll look further into this. I want to accept my incel fate, but why do i gotta be kind to others and stuff?

You don't have to, I'm more interested in the philosophical teachings like anatta

 

[Deleted member 128803]

Also I meant to say I'm an atheist Buddhist

this was trendy like 20 years ago lol

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

@PrinceLuenLeoncur can you debunk this?

He’s on my ignore so no. I have beaten him In Debates before I’ve debated every good atheist on this site but vanilla the fsggot is on my ignore list and won’t come off

Proverbs 26:4 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you be like him yourself.

 

[JasGews69x]

Smartest Atheist