I wish that there were more oldcels on this forum rather than edgy teenagers

[Deleted member 4310]

It's hard to have an enlightening discussion when 99% of the forum are edgy teenagers. This forum has so much potential to become a safe haven for "forbidden" topics that normies can't grasp but it's all squandered because of the juvenile userbase. Some good posters that I feel contribute to the mature and illuminating aspect of the site are @disillusioned @MaherGOAT @KingOfRome @LordNorwood @eduardkoopman @Lifewasted @oldcell @slime @WannaBeA6 and probably a few others.

I might leave for good soon just for this reason unless some oldcels join and make this place a bit more mature and alluring.

 

[Nosecel]

Yeah, I'm pretty young and I'm older than most of this forum jfl
Kindergarden.me

 

[Deleted member 6113]

 

[Deleted member 3328]

How old are you?

 

[stuckneworleans]

Ok boomer

 

[Deleted member 4310]

How old are you?

22

 

[Deleted member 26]

This forum has so much potential to become a safe haven for "forbidden" topics that normies can't grasp

Not with the moderation. There needs to be a TOR forum

 

[Deleted member 4044]

The young guys on this forum are self loathers

Old betabuxer like me can teach u some real ish, if you care to shut your mouth and listen

 

[Deleted member 6113]

The young guys on this forum are self loathers

Old betabuxer like me can teach u some real ish, if you care to shut your mouth and listen

You buy nudes. No one trying be like you.

 

[Deleted member 4044]

You buy nudes. No one trying be like you.

Better than buying and fapping to pictures of chad

 

[Deleted member 4310]

The young guys on this forum are self loathers

Old betabuxer like me can teach u some real ish, if you care to shut your mouth and listen

Wait, are you literally a betabux?

No offense but the whole point of the blackpill is to avoid becoming one

 

[eduardkoopman]

unless some oldcels join and make this place a bit more mature and alluring.

To add, time though. Youngsters have more free time usually, but with oldies that gotta work and stuff: Ain't nobody got time for that.

 

[Deleted member 4044]

Wait, are you literally a betabux?

No offense but the whole point of the blackpill is to avoid becoming one

Betabux is having more fun than you threatening to end ur life because God didnt give u some mm of bone

I have been both bux and fux. Fucked women in alleys outside nightclubs too

 

[eduardkoopman]

Better than buying and fapping to pictures of chad

You gotta admit to the mistake bro. Waisted money. Learn + move on,.

 

[Deleted member 6113]

I agree though. A lot of BS you have to sift through. But there is a tremendous amount of value in this forum.

 

[Deleted member 4044]

You gotta admit to the mistake bro. Waisted money. Learn + move on,.

When I have 30k in my account wasting 220 ain't nothing

 

[didntreadlol]

i'm too low IQ and autistic to have normal discussions

 

[Deleted member 4310]

To add, time though. Youngsters have more free time usually, but with oldies that gotta work and stuff: Ain't nobody got time for that.

Yes, Young people are also more susceptible to the blackpill thanks to tinder, tiktok etc. Most oldcels are already too far gone and even if they understood the blackpill they are too old to care and waste their time exploring it.

 

[eduardkoopman]

Wait, are you literally a betabux?

No offense but the whole point of the blackpill is to avoid becoming one

Betabux is having more fun than you threatening to end ur life because God didnt give u some mm of bone

I have been both bux and fux.

The sad part is though, that alot of men BetaBuxx for looksmatched women. Or unnattractive women. Like WTF?

I don't mind BetaBuxxing, when it's basically paying to date/LTR; ot of your looks league. You know what you are paying for, then

I wouldn't mind BetaBuxxing, like in this example situation for this.

When I have 30k in my account wasting 220 ain't nothing

Still though. You gotta consider also:
* this type of behavior of buying nudes, ramps up the price/costs for other dudes that need to BetaBuxx. So you are elevating women more; and aking it harder for normies dudes. Which is also a point to consider.
* Mental consequences. It's not good for your sense of self esteem, at least in most cases it wouldn't
* their are great charities that could use the 220 better then some fansonly woman.

 

[Deleted member 4044]

The sad part is though, that alot of men BetaBuxx for looksmatched women. Or unnattractive women. Like WTF?

I don't mind BetaBuxxing, when it's basically paying to date/LTR; ot of your looks league. You know what you are paying for, then

I wouldn't mind BetaBuxxing, like in this example situation for this.



Still though. You gotta consider also:
* this type of behavior of buying nudes, ramps up the price/costs for other dudes that need to BetaBuxx. So you are elevating women more; and aking it harder for normies dudes. Which is also a point to consider.
* Mental consequences. It's not good for your sense of self esteem, at least in most cases it wouldn't
* their are great charities that could use the 220 better then some fansonly woman.

Women I got pix from are 6-7/10 blondies

I like to see then playing with their pussy like a baboon for my amusement.. all for some measly $ that is nothing to me

 

[Deleted member 3881]

We are in very interesting times. Imagine if there were no language barriers, that would make the forum more intellectual. A lot of posters here are afraid to engage in deep discussion because of their English proficiency.

 

[eduardkoopman]

Bitches I got pix from are 6-7/10 blondies

I like to see then playing with their pussy like a baboon for my amusement.. all for some measly $ that is nothing to me

I see no point in BetaBuxxing, when there is no sex involved

 

[Deleted member 4310]

I see no point in BetaBuxxing, when there is no sex involved

I see no point in it anyways, why not just go see a hooker? at least it's an honest exchange.

Don't you live in the Netherlands where it's legal? I'd do it every weekend if there was brothels in my city tbh.

 

[Chad69]

Sometimes those ,,edgy teenagers’’ like me have more knowledge about looksmaxing stuff then oldcels

 

[Deleted member 4310]

Sometimes those ,,edgy teenagers’’ like me have more knowledge about looksmaxing stuff then oldcels

Yes but I meant the existential and psychological aspects of the blackpill

 

[Gosick]

21 and yea, too many youngcels under 18 here.

I wish this forum was for ppl who know its over and that looksmaxxing is a pipedream unless your white

 

[eduardkoopman]

I see no point in it anyways, why not just go see a hooker? at least it's an honest exchange.

That's a legit cope also. With BetaBuxxing, it's kinda a honest exchange also imo, it's only blue pilled guys whom can't see it.

When just for sex, BetaBuxxing makes no sense. Could just better buy a hooker.
But some/plenty dudes also want the following, and that you can only get from BetaBuxxing in most cases:
1. Status, of haveing ahot woman by your side. You can't imagine the extra status and etter treatment you get, when you have a woman next to you that moggs you in attractiveness. Status from both men and women. I experienced the difference 1st hand. I got treated plenty better, when I was in my LTR BetaBuxxing type of thing then after that ended and being single for some time. From being looked up to, te being looked down onto. It's hard to be immune to that. For rich people that BertaBuxx for a Stacy, the woman is also a status symbol.
2. Children. Some dudes wanna have kids. By BetaBuxxing they can cheat the "looks-league" system, and breed above their own looks level. Which gives higher chance of him having beautifull kids, grandkids, and so on. Aka, mixing with superior genes from her.

Like in this example case. it makes sense. I assume the dude wants kids, and status of a hot wife. Imagine if this dude didn't BetaBuxx, the type of genes/landwhale he has to breed with then.

Don't you live in the Netherlands where it's legal? I'd do it every weekend if there was brothels in my city tbh.

Yes, it's legal here. I never did this. Not even in my incel period that lasted intill I was 26. Didn't want my 1st to be with a payed hooker. Still afterwards, t doesn't appeal to me much. Sexually I can manage in other ways, and the validation part of sex is a big factor for me I guess also. It's hot for me, when a woman bangs me while she has the option to say no. This way I can think or fool msyelf, that she thinks I'm hot/sexy and she in to mood for a piece of me. Don't get that with hooker.
Hey woman, Do you want a piece of me!

 

[Deleted member 4991]

24 year old, oldcel reporting in.

 

[Deleted member 2403]

I’m an old man too and seeing these kids talk about youth makes me sad

 

[oldcell]

Total incels cannto give advice or discuss relevant topics
I am one of most blackpilled persons at universe , because i went throught 3 phases
1. Decent to good looking at my early 20
2. Below average , sub 4 PSL at my mid to late 20 ( balding hard and overweight)
3. Current phase at my late 30 but i wont describe it here

I experienced totally different approach from people towards me at those phases and it awaken me

 

[eduardkoopman]

Total incels cannto give advice or discuss relevant topics
I am one of most blackpilled persons at universe , because i went throught 3 phases
1. Decent to good looking at my early 20
2. Below average , sub 4 PSL at my mid to late 20 ( balding hard and overweight)
3. Current phase at my late 30 but i wont describe it here

I experienced totally different approach from people towards me at those phases and it awaken me

This.
That's the value oldcells bring.
Likewise me, I can compare and share my experience with different life phases, so far being:
1. incel untill mid 20's
2. getting some lays with a high rejection rate (1%) (mid - late 20's)
3. LTR life with a woman at or little above my looks level (late 20's to mid 30's)
4. Now, trying/aiming to get better looking and seeing how life is then affected by that. If I can "glow up" to a higher looks level, I can then also compare that aspect. Gives a wide view.

 

[Deleted member 2403]

This.
That's the value oldcells bring.
Likewise me, I can compare and share my experience with different life phases, so far being:
1. incel untill mid 20's
2. getting some lays with a high rejection rate (1%) (mid - late 20's)
3. LTR life with a woman at or little above my looks level (late 20's to mid 30's)
4. Now, trying/aiming to get better looking and seeing how life is then affected by that. If I can "glow up" to a higher looks level, I can then also compare that aspect. Gives a wide view.

That’s depressing not helpful

 

[eduardkoopman]

That’s depressing, not helpful

Depends on the person.
For you it may lead to depression.
For others it may lead to getting fired up.
And everything in between.

 

[jackthenerd]

The sad part is though, that alot of men BetaBuxx for looksmatched women. Or unnattractive women. Like WTF?

I don't mind BetaBuxxing, when it's basically paying to date/LTR; ot of your looks league. You know what you are paying for, then

Speaking about betabuxxing. So the one thing I don't really like about more traditional women (the ones you find and LTR in South America, SEA, Africa etc) is that they want kids. I don't lol. That complicates things a lot. Ideally I betabuxx a hot Latina that provides me with daily sex multiple times a day.

I actually kinda like the provider role and tradtional women in that sense (excluding the kids part). But it would be quite awesome to just have her cooking, cleaning, etc (I can afford living for 2 people by my own salary). But that's gonna be really complicated and she'll get bored out of her mind if there's no kids involved. So that kinda ruins that plan.

One thing I don't get is though. Do these women you get from foreign wife game unironically get kids with guys, thinking they're gonna break up? Thinking that it's not gonna last? Are they really that cruel? So you bring her to the US or whatever, then have kids with you, thinking in the back of her mind that she's gonna break up?

Which western country is the #1 country to be in (for men) when it comes to divorce laws, kids, child support. I don't mind having kids with a girl. But only if I don't EVER have to see those kids again if we break up. And that I don't get fucked financially.

 

[Deleted member 2403]

Depends on the person.
For you it may lead to depression.
For others it may lead to getting fired up.
And everything in between.

You really are an oldcel

 

[eduardkoopman]

Speaking about betabuxxing. So the one thing I don't really like about more traditional women (the ones you find and LTR in South America, SEA, Africa etc) is that they want kids. I don't lol. That complicates things a lot. Ideally I betabuxx a hot Latina that provides me with daily sex multiple times a day.

I actually kinda like the provider role and tradtional women in that sense (excluding the kids part). But it would be quite awesome to just have her cooking, cleaning, etc (I can afford living for 2 people by my own salary). But that's gonna be really complicated and she'll get bored out of her mind if there's no kids involved. So that kinda ruins that plan.

99% want kids, IF they don't have kids yet. And alot still want extra kids, if they do have kid/kids already. So, that's the harder part.

One thing I don't get is though. Do these women you get from foreign wife game unironically get kids with guys, thinking they're gonna break up? Thinking that it's not gonna last? Are they really that cruel? So you bring her to the US or whatever, then have kids with you, thinking in the back of her mind that she's gonna break up?

It's in most places in the West world (and beyond) now, that life long pair bounding is not the norm anymore. It has more become, x amount of years runs. If it's a 10 year run, you mogg most people already by alot of years.
So, I would treat it also in that way, as a max. 10 year run. Everything extra, is bonus. It's the new reality of relationships, in my observation.

Which western country is the #1 country to be in (for men) when it comes to divorce laws, kids, child support. I don't mind having kids with a girl. But only if I don't EVER have to see those kids again if we break up. And that I don't get fucked financially.

No Western nation I know of, has good divorce laws for men. Only poor nations, have better laws, or you can just bribe your way out or just leave or whatever.

 

[stuckneworleans]

Not with the moderation. There needs to be a TOR forum

There is. If you want I can PM you it.

 

[Deleted member 3573]

That's why the ratings are a joke lol

 

[6ft8InTheNetherlands]

Oldcels like me lose the motivation to post or browse sites like this.

What's the point of endlessly working hard, improving yourself and competing with millions of men in your area for a 10 second orgasm with a disgusting and unworthy whore from tinder or the club who has unlimited options, lives in a world that's tailored to women and who has an onlyfans account earning 50k+ per month just for uploading pics of her used hole and feet?

 

[NorwoodMilitant]

The sad part is though, that alot of men BetaBuxx for looksmatched women. Or unnattractive women. Like WTF?

I don't mind BetaBuxxing, when it's basically paying to date/LTR; ot of your looks league. You know what you are paying for, then

I wouldn't mind BetaBuxxing, like in this example situation for this.



Still though. You gotta consider also:
* this type of behavior of buying nudes, ramps up the price/costs for other dudes that need to BetaBuxx. So you are elevating women more; and aking it harder for normies dudes. Which is also a point to consider.
* Mental consequences. It's not good for your sense of self esteem, at least in most cases it wouldn't
* their are great charities that could use the 220 better then some fansonly woman.

That guy is living a good life, don’t care what anyone says. So what she is only there for his money/security? It’s a fair exchange, she gets money/visa and he he is smashing prime pussy every day

 

[eduardkoopman]

So what she is only there for his money/security? It’s a fair exchange, she gets money/visa and he he is smashing prime pussy every day

Yes.
How else, is he ever going to get model tier looking, prime women?
He can't looksmaxx his way to a Chad. He'll likely always look in the normie range, also with looksmaxxing. So without BetaBuxxing, this man could get normie tier women in the age group of mid-30's or above (plus likely with alot of bad baggage (kids, debts, fat, hitting the wall hard, etc..)). So I can totally understand his BetaBuxxing.

 

[NorwoodMilitant]

Yes.
How else, is he ever going to get model tier looking, prime women?
He can't looksmaxx his way to a Chad. He'll likely always look in the normie range, also with looksmaxxing. So without BetaBuxxing, this man could get normie tier women in the age group of mid-30's or above (plus likely with alot of bad baggage (kids, debts, fat, hitting the wall hard, etc..)). So I can totally understand his BetaBuxxing.

Yeah I’m on a path to decent wealth and if I wasn’t happy at that age you bet I’ll be doing the same shit lol

 

[eduardkoopman]

Yeah I’m on a path to decent wealth and if I wasn’t happy at that age you bet I’ll be doing the same shit lol

I agree. There is no harm much, to haveing decent money. ALso when not willing to BetaBuxx.

I feel. It's more rewarding, or fun, to be chosen because of my looks. Aka, she finds me hot.
But at 2nd place comes BetaBuxxing out of your league, if the 1st is not an option.

 

[NorwoodMilitant]

I agree. There is no harm much, to haveing decent money. ALso when not willing to BetaBuxx.

I feel. It's more rewarding, or fun, to be chosen because of my looks. Aka, she finds me hot.
But at 2nd place comes BetaBuxxing out of your league, if the 1st is not an option.

Yeah 100% looksmaxxing is ideal

 

[Ritalincel]

 

[oldcell]

I agree. There is no harm much, to haveing decent money. ALso when not willing to BetaBuxx.

I feel. It's more rewarding, or fun, to be chosen because of my looks. Aka, she finds me hot.
But at 2nd place comes BetaBuxxing out of your league, if the 1st is not an option.

betabuxing should nto even be at debate here
We all just want females who like us for our genetics , not money or so
I wuld rather be alone than betabuxing now, but i guess at 50+ i would be willing to betabux for some young females for sure

 

[Deleted member 2597]

betabuxing should nto even be at debate here
We all just want females who like us for our genetics , not money or so
I wuld rather be alone than betabuxing now, but i guess at 50+ i would be willing to betabux for some young females for sure

Cope acquiring wealth indicates genetic value

 

[majorcope]

How old are you?

 

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