Ideal Frontal Ratios (better than the BOTB thread)

[Volksstaffel]

The Ideal Frontal Ratios and how to measure them

These are all frontal ratios you need to know.
My ratios are from renowned raters like FaceIQ and more.

Keep in mind there's much more to ratings, like the weighting of the ratios, tiers outside of the ideal, dimorphism, angularity, ...
If you need help with those feel free to DM me

Table of contents:​

1. Measuring points you need to know ​

2. Ideal Frontal Ratios ​

3. How to measure your ratios​

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1. Measuring points you need to know:

Before we start with measuring, you should know these rather confusing terms

Feel free to Google them if you're still unsure

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2. Ideal Frontal Ratios:

Spoiler: Eyes

Name:	Description:	Example:	Ideal:
Eye Seperation Ratio	Width between Pupils ÷ Width between Zygos x 100		44.5 - 47.75
Canthal tilt	Angle between horizontal line and line between medial and lateral Canthus		5° - 8.5°
PFL to bizygo	Width between medial and lateral Canthus ÷ width between Zygos x 100		19.5 - 21.5
IAA	Angle between lateral Canthi and Alar base		85° - 95°
ICD (Distance between eyes)	Width between medial and lateral Canthus ÷ width between both medial Canthi		0.93 - 1.05
Eye aspect ratio	Width between medial and lateralCanthus ÷ width between upper and lower Eyelid		3 - 3.6
EME (Eye Mouth Angle)	Angle between Pupils and middle of the Mouth		45° - 49°

Spoiler: Jaw

Name:	Description:	Example:	Ideal:
Jaw Frontal Angle	angle between two lines along the Mandible		85° - 95°
Lower full face	Width between Nasion and Chin ÷ width between Hairline and Chin x 100		67 - 71
Jaw width	Width between Gonia ÷ width between Zygos		0.86 - 0.92

Spoiler: Face Shape

Name:	Description:	Example:	Ideal:
Facial thirds	Hairline, Glabella, Alar base, Chin		33 U, 31 M, 36 L
Facial fifths:	Ears, Lateral Canthus,Nose		equal
FWHR	Width between Zygos ÷ width between upper Lip and Glabella		1.9 - 2.05
TFWHR	Width between Hairline and Chin ÷ width between Zygos		1.33 - 1.38
IAA:JFA	IAA - JFA		0° - 3°
Midface ratio	Width between Pupils ÷ width between upper Lip and Glabella		0.96 - 1.02

Spoiler: Nose

Name:	Description:	Example:	Ideal:
Nose H:W	Width between Glabella and Alar Base ÷ Width between widest part of Nose		1.44 - 1.52
Nose to bizygo	Width between Zygos ÷ width between widest part of Nose		3.85 - 4.15

Spoiler: Mouth

Name:	Description:	Example:	Ideal:
Lower : Upper lip	Height of lower Lip ÷ height of upper Lip		1.4 - 2
Chin to philtrum	Width between Chin and bottom of lower Lip ÷ Width between Alar Base and top of upper Lip		2.1 - 2.75
Mouth to bigonial	Width between widest part of Lips ÷ width between Gonia x 100		40-48
Mouth to nose	Width between widest part of Lips ÷ width between widest part of Nose		1.45 - 1.83

Spoiler: Forehead

Name:	Description:	Example:	Ideal:
Bitemporal	Width between Temporal Ridge ÷ width between Zygos x 100		85 - 95
Forehead length	Width between Temporal Ridge ÷ width between Hairline and Glabella		0.45 - 0.52

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3. How to measure your ratios:

For those who of you who are still trying to figure out to accurately utilize these ratios, I'll give you a quick explanation


3.1 How to take a proper picture:

You might not believe it, but the picture you're using can completely mess up the analysis.

Spoiler: More information/proof

In Depth Explanation about how truly brutal Lens Distortion is.

TLDR: Lens Distortion is the devil. If your phone doesn't have a camera with at least a 50mm Focal Length Telephoto Lens. Don't ever take pictures basically. The distance between you and the camera means nothing if the camera doesn't have the focal length to match. Cut straight to the chase, I...

looksmax.org

Official guide to Lens Distortion and it's effects on the face

For a long time I was wondering why I looked so much better in the mirror than in selfies. I already that when I took pictures from back camera that I was because I wasn't used to seeing my face flipped. But, I soon also realized that I look equally bad in selfies with the front camera. How...

looksmax.org

That's why you should make sure to use a certain kind of portrait.
With lense distortion being the main culprit, do the following.

For ideal results, do this:

• Put camera on eye level
• Stand 6 feet away
• Use back camera with 2x/3x zoom

And there you have it. A proper portrait you can use.


3.2 How to measure:

For measuring, you'll need a tool that can count the pixels of your image.
Here are some examples for the device you're using.

If you're on PC, try:

• Gimp (free)
• Adobe Photoshop (popular)
• Image meter (cheap, simple)

If you're on mobile, try:

• https://eleif.net/photomeasure
• Image editor (depending on device)
• IbisPaint X

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This took like 8h to make , so I'd really appreciate a rep
Love y'all, have a lovely day

 

[FrancoAgain]

great thread!
better than the botb one agreed

 

[TheAncientMacedonia]

 

[Volksstaffel]

Fuck

 

[avenox]

ideal shit proportions and size

size: 6x4

proportions: 1:4 cervix of the shit to the tip ratio

10x7 if you want a shit so big it stimulates your prostate

 

[nestivv]

 

[TechnoBoss]

There you go. If you need me to make any more edits or restore anything else feel free to let me know

 

[iblamexyz]

Ideal Frontal Ratios
(better than the BOTB thread)

These are all frontal ratios you need to know. Ratios are from renowned raters, mostly FaceIQ.

Keep in mind there's much more to ratings, like the weighting of the ratios, tiers outside of the ideal, dimorphism, angularity, ...

If you need help with those feel free to DM me

---

Measuring points you need to know:

Before we start with measuring, you should know these rather confusing terms

View attachment 4637113
Feel free to Google them if you're still unsure

---

Ideal Frontal Ratios:

Spoiler: Eyes

Name:	Description:	Example:	Ideal:
Eye Seperation Ratio	Width between Pupils / Width between Zygos x 100	View attachment 4636054	44.5 - 47.75
Canthal tilt	Angle between horizontal line and line between medial and lateral Canthus	View attachment 4636058	5 - 8.5
IAA	Angle between		85 - 95
PFL to bizygo	Width between medial and lateral Canthus / width between Zygos x 100	View attachment 4636027	19.5 - 21.5
ICD (Distance between eyes)	Width between medial and lateral Canthus / width between both ledial Canthi	View attachment 4636043	0.93 - 1.05
Eye aspect ratio	Width between medial and lateral Canthus / width between upper and lower Eyelid	View attachment 4636053	3 - 3.6
EME (Eye Mouth Angle)	Angle between Pupils and middle of the Mouth	View attachment 4636055	45 - 49

Spoiler: Jaw

Name:	Description:	Example:	Ideal:
Jaw Frontal Angle	angle between two lines along the Mandible	View attachment 4636040	85 - 95
Lower full face	Width between Glabella and Chin / width between Hairline and Chin x 100	View attachment 4636039	67 - 71
Jaw width	Width between Gonia / width between Zygos	View attachment 4636041	0.86 - 0.92

Spoiler: Face Shape

Name:	Description:	Example:	Ideal:
Facial thirds	Hairline, Glabella, Alar base, Chin	View attachment 4636052	36, 31, 33
Facial fifths:	Ears, Lateral Canthus, Nose	View attachment 4636042	equal
FWHR	Width between Zygos / width between upper Lip and Glabella	View attachment 4636050	1.9 - 2.05
TFWHR	Width between Hairline and Chin / width between Zygos	View attachment 4636026	1.33 - 1.38
IAA:JFA	IAA - JFA	View attachment 4636045	0 - 3
Midface ratio	Width between Pupils / width between upper Lip and Glabella	View attachment 4636035	0.96 - 1.02

Spoiler: Nose

Name:	Description:	Example:	Ideal:
Nose H:W	Width between Glabella and Alar Base / Width between widest part of Nose	View attachment 4636031	1.44 - 1.52
Nose to bizygo	Width between Zygos / width between widest part of Nose	View attachment 4636029	3.85 - 4.15

Spoiler: Mouth

Name:	Description:	Example:	Ideal:
Lower : Upper lip	Height of lower Lip / height of upper Lip	View attachment 4636037	1.4 - 2
Chin to philtrum	Width between Chin and bottom of lower Lip / Width between Alar Base and top of upper Lip	View attachment 4636057	2.1 - 2.75
Mouth to bigonial	Width between widest part of Lips / width between Gonia x 100	View attachment 4636034	40-48
Mouth to nose	Width between widest part of Lips / width between widest part of Nose	View attachment 4636032	1.38 - 1.53

Spoiler: Forehead

Name:	Description:	Example:	Ideal:
Bitemporal	Width between Temporal Ridge / width between Zygos x 100	View attachment 4636059	85 - 95
Forehead length	Width between Temporal Ridge / width between Hairline and Glabella		0.45 - 0.52

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This took like 8h to make trepidation, so I'd really appreciate a rep
Love y'all, have a lovely day

Mirin

@Sink

 

[ascendtocl122]

thank you autist king I too hope to contribute something one day to this community

 

[getratioedbozo]

great thread!
better than the botb one agreed

"Ideal ratio" and just fucking millimeters.
Looks aint THAT serious

 

[Anamnesis]

damn i cant see the pics

 

[ascendtocl122]

"Ideal ratio" and just fucking millimeters.
Looks aint THAT serious

joins incel looksmaxing thread

looks are too serious

i find you and botch you in your sleep

 

[getratioedbozo]

looks are too serious

But not to that extent

 

[Volksstaffel]

There you go. If you need me to make any more edits or restore anything else feel free to let me know

Tysm

 

[Volksstaffel]

damn i cant see the pics

Fixed now

 

[whorehater]

yup I'm deformed as shit

 

[PharmaPhaggot]

Mirin the effort dude, dont wanna be that guy but from what studies or databases did you get this from?

 

[SomaliSub5]

shouldnt ipsilateral alar angle be on the lateral canthus not on the pupils?

 

[Volksstaffel]

Ideal Frontal Ratios
(better than the BOTB thread)

These are all frontal ratios you need to know. Ratios are from renowned raters, mostly FaceIQ.

Keep in mind there's much more to ratings, like the weighting of the ratios, tiers outside of the ideal, dimorphism, angularity, ...

If you need help with those feel free to DM me

---

Measuring points you need to know:

Before we start with measuring, you should know these rather confusing terms

View attachment 4637351
Feel free to Google them if you're still unsure

---

Ideal Frontal Ratios:

Spoiler: Eyes

Name:	Description:	Example:	Ideal:
Eye Seperation Ratio	Width between Pupils / Width between Zygos x 100	View attachment 4637307	44.5 - 47.75
Canthal tilt	Angle between horizontal line and line between medial and lateral Canthus	View attachment 4637300	5 - 8.5
IAA	Angle between Pupils and Alar Base	View attachment 4637320	85 - 95
PFL to bizygo	Width between medial and lateral Canthus / width between Zygos x 100	View attachment 4637348	19.5 - 21.5
ICD (Distance between eyes)	Width between medial and lateral Canthus / width between both ledial Canthi	View attachment 4637321	0.93 - 1.05
Eye aspect ratio	Width between medial and lateral Canthus / width between upper and lower Eyelid	View attachment 4637311	3 - 3.6
EME (Eye Mouth Angle)	Angle between Pupils and middle of the Mouth	View attachment 4637305	45 - 49

Spoiler: Jaw

Name:	Description:	Example:	Ideal:
Jaw Frontal Angle	angle between two lines along the Mandible	View attachment 4637327	85 - 95
Lower full face	Width between Glabella and Chin / width between Hairline and Chin x 100	View attachment 4637329	67 - 71
Jaw width	Width between Gonia / width between Zygos	View attachment 4637322	0.86 - 0.92

Spoiler: Face Shape

Name:	Description:	Example:	Ideal:
Facial thirds	Hairline, Glabella, Alar base, Chin	View attachment 4637313	36, 31, 33
Facial fifths:	Ears, Lateral Canthus, Nose	View attachment 4637312	equal
FWHR	Width between Zygos / width between upper Lip and Glabella	View attachment 4637316	1.9 - 2.05
TFWHR	Width between Hairline and Chin / width between Zygos	View attachment 4637347	1.33 - 1.38
IAA:JFA	IAA - JFA	View attachment 4637318	0 - 3
Midface ratio	Width between Pupils / width between upper Lip and Glabella	View attachment 4637331	0.96 - 1.02

Spoiler: Nose

Name:	Description:	Example:	Ideal:
Nose H:W	Width between Glabella and Alar Base / Width between widest part of Nose	View attachment 4637339	1.44 - 1.52
Nose to bizygo	Width between Zygos / width between widest part of Nose	View attachment 4637343	3.85 - 4.15

Spoiler: Mouth

Name:	Description:	Example:	Ideal:
Lower : Upper lip	Height of lower Lip / height of upper Lip	View attachment 4637330	1.4 - 2
Chin to philtrum	Width between Chin and bottom of lower Lip / Width between Alar Base and top of upper Lip	View attachment 4637303	2.1 - 2.75
Mouth to bigonial	Width between widest part of Lips / width between Gonia x 100	View attachment 4637333	40-48
Mouth to nose	Width between widest part of Lips / width between widest part of Nose	View attachment 4637336	1.38 - 1.53

Spoiler: Forehead

Name:	Description:	Example:	Ideal:
Bitemporal	Width between Temporal Ridge / width between Zygos x 100	View attachment 4637299	85 - 95
Forehead length	Width between Temporal Ridge / width between Hairline and Glabella	View attachment 4637317	0.45 - 0.52

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This took like 8h to make , so I'd really appreciate a rep
Love y'all, have a lovely day

@Chad @SlayerJonas cmon this is much better than the BOTB one
What's the policy on replacing threads there?

 

[Deleted member 240873]

Ideal Frontal Ratios
(better than the BOTB thread)

These are all frontal ratios you need to know. Ratios are from renowned raters, mostly FaceIQ.

Keep in mind there's much more to ratings, like the weighting of the ratios, tiers outside of the ideal, dimorphism, angularity, ...

If you need help with those feel free to DM me

---

Measuring points you need to know:

Before we start with measuring, you should know these rather confusing terms

View attachment 4637351
Feel free to Google them if you're still unsure

---

Ideal Frontal Ratios:

Spoiler: Eyes

Name:	Description:	Example:	Ideal:
Eye Seperation Ratio	Width between Pupils / Width between Zygos x 100	View attachment 4637307	44.5 - 47.75
Canthal tilt	Angle between horizontal line and line between medial and lateral Canthus	View attachment 4637300	5 - 8.5
PFL to bizygo	Width between medial and lateral Canthus / width between Zygos x 100	View attachment 4637348	19.5 - 21.5
ICD (Distance between eyes)	Width between medial and lateral Canthus / width between both ledial Canthi	View attachment 4637321	0.93 - 1.05
Eye aspect ratio	Width between medial and lateral Canthus / width between upper and lower Eyelid	View attachment 4637311	3 - 3.6
EME (Eye Mouth Angle)	Angle between Pupils and middle of the Mouth	View attachment 4637305	45 - 49

Spoiler: Jaw

Name:	Description:	Example:	Ideal:
Jaw Frontal Angle	angle between two lines along the Mandible	View attachment 4637327	85 - 95
Lower full face	Width between Glabella and Chin / width between Hairline and Chin x 100	View attachment 4637329	67 - 71
Jaw width	Width between Gonia / width between Zygos	View attachment 4637322	0.86 - 0.92

Spoiler: Face Shape

Name:	Description:	Example:	Ideal:
Facial thirds	Hairline, Glabella, Alar base, Chin	View attachment 4637313	36, 31, 33
Facial fifths:	Ears, Lateral Canthus, Nose	View attachment 4637312	equal
FWHR	Width between Zygos / width between upper Lip and Glabella	View attachment 4637316	1.9 - 2.05
TFWHR	Width between Hairline and Chin / width between Zygos	View attachment 4637347	1.33 - 1.38
IAA:JFA	IAA - JFA	View attachment 4637318	0 - 3
Midface ratio	Width between Pupils / width between upper Lip and Glabella	View attachment 4637331	0.96 - 1.02

Spoiler: Nose

Name:	Description:	Example:	Ideal:
Nose H:W	Width between Glabella and Alar Base / Width between widest part of Nose	View attachment 4637339	1.44 - 1.52
Nose to bizygo	Width between Zygos / width between widest part of Nose	View attachment 4637343	3.85 - 4.15

Spoiler: Mouth

Name:	Description:	Example:	Ideal:
Lower : Upper lip	Height of lower Lip / height of upper Lip	View attachment 4637330	1.4 - 2
Chin to philtrum	Width between Chin and bottom of lower Lip / Width between Alar Base and top of upper Lip	View attachment 4637303	2.1 - 2.75
Mouth to bigonial	Width between widest part of Lips / width between Gonia x 100	View attachment 4637333	40-48
Mouth to nose	Width between widest part of Lips / width between widest part of Nose	View attachment 4637336	1.38 - 1.53

Spoiler: Forehead

Name:	Description:	Example:	Ideal:
Bitemporal	Width between Temporal Ridge / width between Zygos x 100	View attachment 4637299	85 - 95
Forehead length	Width between Temporal Ridge / width between Hairline and Glabella	View attachment 4637317	0.45 - 0.52

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This took like 8h to make , so I'd really appreciate a rep
Love y'all, have a lovely day

You forgot some but covered most
I like that you included the measurements on a pic
Anything to get into botb and the contributor badge tho

 

[accutanefuckedme]

Good thread

Bump

 

[Volksstaffel]

You forgot some but covered most

Yeah I gotta gatekeep some

I like that you included the measurements on a pic

My main selling point yeah

Anything to get into botb and the contributor badge tho

 

[Volksstaffel]

Mirin the effort dude, dont wanna be that guy but from what studies or databases did you get this from?

I collected ratios from raters like FaceIQ and sone others and compared them

 

[Volksstaffel]

@Aryan Incel @Sadist @Menas contributor grind
Those who remember realitypill

 

[Fridx]

Nice thread
But it prob wont make it to botb since its about a topic thats already in botb

 

[Volksstaffel]

Nice thread
But it prob wont make it to botb since its about a topic thats already in botb

maybe, would be stupid tho cus why would you keep the worse thread just because its older

 

[Fridx]

It was all going good till i saw this

.
My ratios are from renowned raters like FaceLowIQ.

 

[Volksstaffel]

@Sink @Galvatron @imontheloose @HighLtn @NVM_Ignacio

 

[Volksstaffel]

It was all going good till i saw this

hate on him all you want (I do too), he knows his stuff when it comes to ratios

 

[FrancoAgain]

"Ideal ratio" and just fucking millimeters.
Looks aint THAT serious

why did you quote me
also taking ratios is nothing serious i did it once

 

[enlightful]

Inb4 this thread gets put in botb

 

[Deleted member 330603]

Good thread. Bookmarked

 

[ltnbrownacnecel]

I knew that botb thread was wrong.

 

[soapbubble]

best offtopic thread of all time

 

[mohito]

Any esr below 0.46 is seen as closely spaced eyes and any mouth/nose less than 0.5 is seen as a narrow mouth

 

[hiruma]

Very high IQ thread

 

[Galvatron]

Le high iq thread my bro

 

[EthiopianMaxxer]

good thread, i've never seen the pfl bizygomatic ratio before

 

[Seven]

good

 

[Dophinic]

Can you message me I can’t message you cause my posts are too low

 

[speed_95]

MIRIN

 

[Wuzzdio]

More ratios and include tiers

 

[niggero0]

The Ideal Frontal Ratios and how to measure them

These are all frontal ratios you need to know.
My ratios are from renowned raters like FaceIQ and more.

Keep in mind there's much more to ratings, like the weighting of the ratios, tiers outside of the ideal, dimorphism, angularity, ...
If you need help with those feel free to DM me

---

Measuring points you need to know:

Before we start with measuring, you should know these rather confusing terms

View attachment 4637351
Feel free to Google them if you're still unsure

---

Ideal Frontal Ratios:

Spoiler: Eyes

Name:	Description:	Example:	Ideal:
Eye Seperation Ratio	Width between Pupils ÷ Width between Zygos x 100	View attachment 4637307	44.5 - 47.75
Canthal tilt	Angle between horizontal line and line between medial and lateral Canthus	View attachment 4637300	5° - 8.5°
PFL to bizygo	Width between medial and lateral Canthus ÷ width between Zygos x 100	View attachment 4637348	19.5 - 21.5
ICD (Distance between eyes)	Width between medial and lateral Canthus ÷ width between both medial Canthi	View attachment 4637321	0.93 - 1.05
Eye aspect ratio	Width between medial and lateral Canthus ÷ width between upper and lower Eyelid	View attachment 4637311	3 - 3.6
EME (Eye Mouth Angle)	Angle between Pupils and middle of the Mouth	View attachment 4637305	45° - 49°

Spoiler: Jaw

Name:	Description:	Example:	Ideal:
Jaw Frontal Angle	angle between two lines along the Mandible	View attachment 4637327	85° - 95°
Lower full face	Width between Glabella and Chin ÷ width between Hairline and Chin x 100	View attachment 4637329	67 - 71
Jaw width	Width between Gonia ÷ width between Zygos	View attachment 4637322	0.86 - 0.92

Spoiler: Face Shape

Name:	Description:	Example:	Ideal:
Facial thirds	Hairline, Glabella, Alar base, Chin	View attachment 4637313	36, 31, 33
Facial fifths:	Ears, Lateral Canthus, Nose	View attachment 4637312	equal
FWHR	Width between Zygos ÷ width between upper Lip and Glabella	View attachment 4637316	1.9 - 2.05
TFWHR	Width between Hairline and Chin ÷ width between Zygos	View attachment 4637347	1.33 - 1.38
IAA:JFA	IAA - JFA	View attachment 4637318	0° - 3°
Midface ratio	Width between Pupils ÷ width between upper Lip and Glabella	View attachment 4637331	0.96 - 1.02

Spoiler: Nose

Name:	Description:	Example:	Ideal:
Nose H:W	Width between Glabella and Alar Base ÷ Width between widest part of Nose	View attachment 4637339	1.44 - 1.52
Nose to bizygo	Width between Zygos ÷ width between widest part of Nose	View attachment 4637343	3.85 - 4.15

Spoiler: Mouth

Name:	Description:	Example:	Ideal:
Lower : Upper lip	Height of lower Lip ÷ height of upper Lip	View attachment 4637330	1.4 - 2
Chin to philtrum	Width between Chin and bottom of lower Lip ÷ Width between Alar Base and top of upper Lip	View attachment 4637303	2.1 - 2.75
Mouth to bigonial	Width between widest part of Lips ÷ width between Gonia x 100	View attachment 4637333	40-48
Mouth to nose	Width between widest part of Lips ÷ width between widest part of Nose	View attachment 4637336	1.38 - 1.53

Spoiler: Forehead

Name:	Description:	Example:	Ideal:
Bitemporal	Width between Temporal Ridge ÷ width between Zygos x 100	View attachment 4637299	85 - 95
Forehead length	Width between Temporal Ridge ÷ width between Hairline and Glabella	View attachment 4637317	0.45 - 0.52

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This took like 8h to make , so I'd really appreciate a rep
Love y'all, have a lovely day

I can't believe it's coming from you but mirin thread better than botb indeed botb thread got even the basic chin to philtrum ratio wrong absolute dog shit

 

[Volksstaffel]

Any esr below 0.46 is seen as closely spaced

that’s what I said, no?

any mouth/nose less than 0.5 is seen as a narrow mouth

on white men? hell no

 

[mohito]

that’s what I said, no?

on white men? hell no

You listed 0.445 as the lower end of the ideal range for esr, but even 0.45 might look noticeably closely spaced

This is what a 1.47 mouth/nose looks like on vito basso, higher than 1.45 but still noticeably narrow (i meant 1.5 on my first reply, not 0.5)

 

[Volksstaffel]

You listed 0.445 as the lower end of the ideal range for esr, but even 0.45 might look noticeably closely spaced
View attachment 4638267

this is not closely spaced, lower end of the ideal

This is what a 1.47 mouth/nose looks like on vito basso, higher than 1.45 but still noticeably narrow (i meant 1.5 on my first reply, not 0.5)
View attachment 4638271

that’s by no means a narrow mouth, it looks only a bit weird because of height to width of the mouth, so the falio is the height, not the width

 

[Volksstaffel]

I knew that botb thread was wrong.

not necessarily wrong. Even if you aren’t in the ideal, you might be tier 2 which is still good. In the end the ratios are subjective when it cones to slight differences

 

[random subhuman]

The Ideal Frontal Ratios and how to measure them

These are all frontal ratios you need to know.
My ratios are from renowned raters like FaceIQ and more.

Keep in mind there's much more to ratings, like the weighting of the ratios, tiers outside of the ideal, dimorphism, angularity, ...
If you need help with those feel free to DM me

---

Measuring points you need to know:

Before we start with measuring, you should know these rather confusing terms

View attachment 4637351
Feel free to Google them if you're still unsure

---

Ideal Frontal Ratios:

Spoiler: Eyes

Name:	Description:	Example:	Ideal:
Eye Seperation Ratio	Width between Pupils ÷ Width between Zygos x 100	View attachment 4637307	44.5 - 47.75
Canthal tilt	Angle between horizontal line and line between medial and lateral Canthus	View attachment 4637300	5° - 8.5°
PFL to bizygo	Width between medial and lateral Canthus ÷ width between Zygos x 100	View attachment 4637348	19.5 - 21.5
ICD (Distance between eyes)	Width between medial and lateral Canthus ÷ width between both medial Canthi	View attachment 4637321	0.93 - 1.05
Eye aspect ratio	Width between medial and lateral Canthus ÷ width between upper and lower Eyelid	View attachment 4637311	3 - 3.6
EME (Eye Mouth Angle)	Angle between Pupils and middle of the Mouth	View attachment 4637305	45° - 49°

Spoiler: Jaw

Name:	Description:	Example:	Ideal:
Jaw Frontal Angle	angle between two lines along the Mandible	View attachment 4637327	85° - 95°
Lower full face	Width between Glabella and Chin ÷ width between Hairline and Chin x 100	View attachment 4637329	67 - 71
Jaw width	Width between Gonia ÷ width between Zygos	View attachment 4637322	0.86 - 0.92

Spoiler: Face Shape

Name:	Description:	Example:	Ideal:
Facial thirds	Hairline, Glabella, Alar base, Chin	View attachment 4637313	36, 31, 33
Facial fifths:	Ears, Lateral Canthus, Nose	View attachment 4637312	equal
FWHR	Width between Zygos ÷ width between upper Lip and Glabella	View attachment 4637316	1.9 - 2.05
TFWHR	Width between Hairline and Chin ÷ width between Zygos	View attachment 4637347	1.33 - 1.38
IAA:JFA	IAA - JFA	View attachment 4637318	0° - 3°
Midface ratio	Width between Pupils ÷ width between upper Lip and Glabella	View attachment 4637331	0.96 - 1.02

Spoiler: Nose

Name:	Description:	Example:	Ideal:
Nose H:W	Width between Glabella and Alar Base ÷ Width between widest part of Nose	View attachment 4637339	1.44 - 1.52
Nose to bizygo	Width between Zygos ÷ width between widest part of Nose	View attachment 4637343	3.85 - 4.15

Spoiler: Mouth

Name:	Description:	Example:	Ideal:
Lower : Upper lip	Height of lower Lip ÷ height of upper Lip	View attachment 4637330	1.4 - 2
Chin to philtrum	Width between Chin and bottom of lower Lip ÷ Width between Alar Base and top of upper Lip	View attachment 4637303	2.1 - 2.75
Mouth to bigonial	Width between widest part of Lips ÷ width between Gonia x 100	View attachment 4637333	40-48
Mouth to nose	Width between widest part of Lips ÷ width between widest part of Nose	View attachment 4637336	1.45 - 1.83

Spoiler: Forehead

Name:	Description:	Example:	Ideal:
Bitemporal	Width between Temporal Ridge ÷ width between Zygos x 100	View attachment 4637299	85 - 95
Forehead length	Width between Temporal Ridge ÷ width between Hairline and Glabella	View attachment 4637317	0.45 - 0.52

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[mohito]

this is not closely spaced, lower end of the ideal

It looks slightly too close together, which
not ideal

that’s by no means a narrow mouth, it looks only a bit weird because of height to width of the mouth, so the falio is the height, not the width

Basso's chin/philtrum height ratio is 2.13:1 which is absolutely ideal, so its not the height

 

[Volksstaffel]

It looks slightly too close together, which
not ideal

Dragos PFL i s simply low. That’s why you use different ratios to determine close/far eyes

Basso's chin/philtrum height ratio is 2.13:1 which is absolutely ideal, so its not the height
View attachment 4638303

chin/philtrum doesn’t include mouth height, wdym?