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smv wise probably 6 foot 7 imo
 
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doesnt matter past 6'2 anyways
 
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If you could snap your fingers and be any height you wanted, it would depend on what you want in life. For SMV 6'4, 6'5 if in the Netherlands. For classic roided bodybuilding 6'0 max. To have the perfect gymbro body like Thurston etc. max 6'1. If you wanna be a model 6'2. If you wanna mog as many men as possible without having too many health or practical problems, 6'8. And so on. Personally my ideal height for the aesthetics and look I'd want to have is 6'3, I want to be noticeably and firmly tall and mog most men but still be capable of blending with a crowd and not be a giant who people point to when outside, like the male equivalent of a woman with enormous boobs. Plus proportions start to look bad after 6'3 according to modeling agencies and I agree. Anything close to the average NBA height (6'6) is too much for me.
If it wasn't for retarded female standards and the Netherlands 6'2 would be the best tradeoff between SMV and aesthetics/proportions.
 
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If you could snap your fingers and be any height you wanted, it would depend on what you want in life. For SMV 6'4, 6'5 if in the Netherlands. For classic roided bodybuilding 6'0 max. To have the perfect gymbro body like Thurston etc. 6'1. If you wanna be a model 6'2, etc. If you wanna mog as many men as possible without caring about potential health or practical problems, 6'8.
Why 6’8 and not 7’8
 
6'2.5, maybe 6'2.75, in most likelyhood
 
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smv scales pretty linearly up until at-least 6 foot 3. after 6 foot 4 it start to drop of, but still increases.
6'2 6'3 same thing im going to stuff you in a locker curry
 
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im 6'4'' in the netherlands and i get mogged very rarely
sounds about right, you're taller than 96% of the male population and the heights it takes to mog you are 0th percentile.
 
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Anything above 190 is freak territory and below 190 is manlet
coping 195 is ubermensch territory and obviously more attractive to women with the added effect of dominating other men
 
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6'3 is ideal. More than 6'5 is not cool, convenient or attractive. Incels often hypercompensate be it jaw or height
 
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if you are not at least 7 foot you will be mogged on a daily basis

HEIGHTmaxx ASAP
 
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If you could snap your fingers and be any height you wanted, it would depend on what you want in life. For SMV 6'4, 6'5 if in the Netherlands. For classic roided bodybuilding 6'0 max. To have the perfect gymbro body like Thurston etc. max 6'1. If you wanna be a model 6'2. If you wanna mog as many men as possible without having too many health or practical problems, 6'8. And so on. Personally my ideal height for the aesthetics and look I'd want to have is 6'3, I want to be noticeably and firmly tall and mog most men but still be capable of blending with a crowd and not be a giant who people point to when outside, like the male equivalent of a woman with enormous boobs. Plus proportions start to look bad after 6'3 according to modeling agencies and I agree. Anything close to the average NBA height (6'6) is too much for me.
If it wasn't for retarded female standards and the Netherlands 6'2 would be the best tradeoff between SMV and aesthetics/proportions.
such a great answer man

and definitely agreed on the 6'2 or 6'3 being the best height ofc not considering the "mog" effect
 
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if you are not at least 7 foot you will be mogged on a daily basis

HEIGHTmaxx ASAP
Bluepilled cope, there is a 0.0001% chance that you could meet Sultan Kösen, the tallest man in the world who's 8'3, Yao Ming (7'6), Shaquile O'Neal wearing lifts (he has to cause he's only 7'1, so he'd be 7'3 to you) or other super tall NBA players and get mogged to oblivion and cucked by your gf as a result. You'd have to be at least 8'5 so that even Kösen theoretically wearing lifts couldn't mog you.
 
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such a great answer man

and definitely agreed on the 6'2 or 6'3 being the best height ofc not considering the "mog" effect
yeah there's a reason why you almost never see handsome Hollywood stars or models above 6'2-6'3. Even 6'3 is considered too tall by modeling agencies, they only make exceptions for top-tier guys like Chico.
 
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I'd say 188-190 is perfect. you are tall everywhere. you can gymmax and fit in any car
 
smv wise probably 6 foot 7 imo
It's my height 6'5

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6'3 is ideal. More than 6'5 is not cool, convenient or attractive. Incels often hypercompensate be it jaw or height
This study agrees, SMV declines a lot after 6'4, at least in the US. Though tbf guys who place so much emphasis on height are probably thinking more in terms of mogging men rather than SMV specifically.
 

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did that study just ask what height theyd find tolerable? that suggests women to take into account factors other than raw attraction
They looked at the number of women who gave a "yes" answer to the men when it came to accepting them as potential partners, their heights, and compiled them into that table. There's a lot of other more complex statistical stuff and analysis they did with the data but that table's results are the key part for me.
 
They looked at the number of women who gave a "yes" answer to the men when it came to accepting them as potential partners, their heights, and compiled them into that table. There's a lot of other more complex statistical stuff and analysis they did with the data but that table's results are the key part for me.
i feel like that takes into consideration factors other than pure attraction e.g., having to bend your neck while kissing, and other things. pure attraction minus downsides of being taller would imply a most attractive height a little higher than is said there.

also: they asked women, thats an absurd methodology for measuring attraction, which would be better measured graphically using pictures or even irl(not feasible i know)

i think you would if conducted in a similar fashion- find that women value personality, virtues and other such stuff much higher than looks- if you were to just ask them instead of verifying in some empirically useful way.

ideal height is probably 95-99th percentile in a given population, so it would probably still be worth it for me to wear insoles at 6'4'' in the netherlands.

the power of nichemaxxing is also understated. imagine how much more attractive a 6 foot 6 guy is among women that are also very tall, thats a valid strategy for some men.
 
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seems consistent with the other one, SMV benefit declines after 6'4
in a us population though

western european equivalent is 6'5''. dutch equivalent 6'6'' might be higher still if you look at ethnically dutch in northern provinces.

would you recommend frauding from 193.5 cm to 195 cm using insoles? i have these very comfortable ones that are unnoticable
 
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i feel like that takes into consideration factors other than pure attraction e.g., having to bend your neck while kissing, and other things. pure attraction minus downsides of being taller would imply a most attractive height a little higher than is said there.

also: they asked women, thats an absurd methodology for measuring attraction, which would be better measured graphically using pictures or even irl(not feasible i know)

i think you would if conducted in a similar fashion- find that women value personality, virtues and other such stuff much higher than looks- if you were to just ask them instead of verifying in some empirically useful way.

ideal height is probably 95-99th percentile in a given population, so it would probably still be worth it for me to wear insoles at 6'4'' in the netherlands.

the power of nichemaxxing is also understated. imagine how much more attractive a 6 foot 6 guy is among women that are also very tall, thats a valid strategy for some men.
6'4 is 95th percentile in the Netherlands so I think you're good, actually you're right at the beginning of heights where you don't need lifts for the NL. I mean, you're 4 inches above the average Dutch male zoomer height, I think you're well past the point where height could negatively affect your SMV.
As for me, while the NL definitely has a very high average male height, I think women do care about proportions and overall aesthetics in addition to height. A 6'8 man, unless he has top genetics, is in all likelihood a hunching lanklet, it's just not an aesthetic or proportional height. I think 6'3 would still be seen as tall and attractive cause 6'3 proportions are 6'3 proportions no matter where you are. But dunno, hopefully I'll never have to find out by going there.
 
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6'4 is 95th percentile in the Netherlands so I think you're good, actually you're right at the beginning of heights where you don't need lifts for the NL. I mean, you're 4 inches above the average Dutch male zoomer height, I think you're well past the point where height could negatively affect your SMV.
As for me, while the NL definitely has a very high average male height, I think women do care about proportions and overall aesthetics in addition to height. A 6'8 man, unless he has top genetics, is in all likelihood a hunching lanklet, it's just not an aesthetic or proportional height. I think 6'3 would still be seen as tall and attractive cause 6'3 proportions are 6'3 proportions no matter where you are. But dunno, hopefully I'll never have to find out by going there.
i have pretty good proportions.

im sort of on the fence about it. i just like min-maxxing every aspect of my looksmaxxing so i might try it out next time i go out.
 
in a us population though

western european equivalent is 6'5''. dutch equivalent 6'6'' might be higher still if you look at ethnically dutch in northern provinces.

would you recommend frauding from 193.5 cm to 195 cm using insoles? i have these very comfortable ones that are unnoticable
I don't think there's a place in the world where 193.5 cm wouldn't be seen as a tall attractive height, in the Netherlands it's 12.5 cm above average male height, statistically equivalent to 188.5 cm in the US, 0.5 cm above what is considered the ideal male height there. That said 1.5 cm insoles are practically nothing, my limit for when they stop being comfortable/discreet is 4 cm, so sure you have nothing to lose.

But like I said, personally I care about proportions and practical considerations and I think women do to. 6'6-6'8 may be as statistically normal in the Netherlands as 6'3-6'5 are in the US, but they're just not good heights for the average man regardless of height averages. I don't know if the average Dutch woman really expects:

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just because statistically it's more normal there than it is in the US. Keep in mind the Netherlands is a very small country heavily influenced by American culture, celebs, models etc. like everyone else. But I digress.
 
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yeah there's a reason why you almost never see handsome Hollywood stars or models above 6'2-6'3. Even 6'3 is considered too tall by modeling agencies, they only make exceptions for top-tier guys like Chico.
and prob for Maher isn't he like 6'4 or 6'5
 

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