Ideal midface ratio is 0.95-1

[optimisticzoomer]

Obviously 1:1 is commonly seen as the ideal midface ratio, but often people say above 1 is ideal too

I have autistically analysed many faces of actors and other famous people at random and almost all of them have a midface ratio below 1. So for males, I believe above 1:1 to be Indian sfs cope

Also, examples of midface ratios of some actors which are below ideal (straight on, not smiling, varies slightly by pic):

Chris Hemsworth: 0.94
Liam Hemsworth: 0.91
Ian somerhalder: 0.87
Jake gyllenhaal: 0.86

All sub ideal but look fine

But I would say, generally, above 1:1 is not good (in B4 Barrett). Ideal is 0.95-1

 

[adam_ross2549]

slighly long mid face is high class af. short mid face is low trust af

 

[ElTruecel]

My midface Is 0.93

 

[appealmaxed]

find 4 gl people who dont have ideal midface theory

they are gl despite long midface not because of it

 

[optimisticzoomer]

My midface Is 0.93

Not too bad, contrary to what people here would say
But ideally would be higher

 

[optimisticzoomer]

find 4 gl people who dont have ideal midface theory

they are gl despite long midface not because of it

Try almost any actor, front facing pic, head straight, no smiling.
I tried with depp, Chris Evans, Jason Statham, Matthew mcconnaughy, Christian bale, and more

Most male actors are around 0.95

Point is that ideal is 0.95-1, not that the 4 i listed before have ideal midface

 

[esoterik]

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[appealmaxed]

Try almost any actor, front facing pic, head straight, no smiling.
I tried with depp, Chris Evans, Jason Statham, Matthew mcconnaughy, Christian bale, and more

Most male actors are around 0.95

Point is that ideal is 0.95-1, not that the 4 i listed before have ideal midface

1.05

 

[optimisticzoomer]

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1.05

You're measuring wrong jfl
I used 1:1 lock gridlines on edit, and his midface is below 1

For the others, I used software to get accurate number, but here you can see his ipd is too small relative to midface length

 

[Deleted member 40761]

0.95-1 is ideal for masculinity, 1.05 can still look good but its more prettyboy. 1.1+ is scrunch faced and bad. You can't just say anything above 1.0 is bad lol. It still looks good up until like 1.09+ when it starts looking scrunched

 

[blackckatt]

Compact midface is a memes, @HarrierDuBois

 

[mtcut3plush]

.93 to 1:1

 

[eduardkoopman]

But I would say, generally, above 1:1 is not good

cope 1.05 (or a bit up) is ideal.

 

[optimisticzoomer]

cope 1.05 (or a bit up) is ideal.

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I'm talking about men jfl
Women need at least 1:1 ideally

 

[appealmaxed]

i’m assuming u have mid face ratio of 0.95-1

 

[optimisticzoomer]

i’m assuming u have mid face ratio of 0.95-1

Nope, mine is lower. However, even on morphs of myself (wider ipd and lip lift) it looks retarded above 1

My point is backed up by the fact the majority of conventionally attractive men do not have a midface ratio above 1:1

 

[eduardkoopman]

Nope, mine is lower. However, even on morphs of myself (wider ipd and lip lift) it looks retarded above 1

My point is backed up by the fact the majority of conventionally attractive men do not have a midface ratio above 1:1

sean O'pry is above 1

 

[optimisticzoomer]

sean O'pry is above 1

Yes, and he looks good cos of high pfl and other great features. He would probably look better with slightly lower ratio.

It's like how Ian somerhalder looks good despite low mfr, same with opry but opposite

Most people will look like they have a stunted face with a mfr above 1

 

[Deleted member 46338]

cope 1.05 (or a bit up) is ideal.

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Only heterosexual user on the forum

 

[eduardkoopman]

Only heterosexual user on the forum

thanks, and, At your service

 

[bodydmorph2004]

Yea I was speaking abt this in a thread a little bit ago but got shit on cuz i’m a greycel. but I agree with what ur saying. anyone who says ideal midface is above 1 is retarded. Id say the ideal lies in .95-1.05. What matters more imo is proper forward growth in the midface. Take rodrigo guirao diaz, he has <.95 midface but super good forward growth so it doesn’t really come as a flaw.

 

[Oatriced]

Obviously 1:1 is commonly seen as the ideal midface ratio, but often people say above 1 is ideal too

I have autistically analysed many faces of actors and other famous people at random and almost all of them have a midface ratio below 1. So for males, I believe above 1:1 to be Indian sfs cope

Also, examples of midface ratios of some actors which are below ideal (straight on, not smiling, varies slightly by pic):

Chris Hemsworth: 0.94
Liam Hemsworth: 0.91
Ian somerhalder: 0.87
Jake gyllenhaal: 0.86

All sub ideal but look fine

But I would say, generally, above 1:1 is not good (in B4 Barrett). Ideal is 0.95-1

Do you think if you have other features like good eye area and a forward grown maxilla and generell good jaw nobody cares about midface.

 

[HarrierDuBois]

cope 1.05 (or a bit up) is ideal.

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In women yes. For men OP @optimisticzoomer is right, 0.95-1 is ideal.

sean O'pry is above 1

O'Pry has very wide set eyes which forces his midface ratio above 1, his actual midface is not particularly compact. He has a tall maxilla.

 

[Oatriced]

In women yes. For men OP @optimisticzoomer is right, 0.95-1 is ideal.

Yes of course but Ian Somerholder Jake Gylenhall have pretty faces even with an elongated ratio

 

[HarrierDuBois]

Yes of course but Ian Somerholder Jake Gylenhall have pretty faces even with an elongated ratio

They are outliers.

 

[Oatriced]

They are outliers.

Yes even though I think midface matters and is often underrated I think with a good hairstyle and other good features etc you can still be in chadlite to chad area.

 

[HarrierDuBois]

Yes even though I think midface matters and is often underrated I think with a good hairstyle and other good features etc you can still be in chadlite to chad area.

If you have a long midface, having a tall chin and horizontally wide thick eyebrows is what is going to save you every single time.

 

[Oatriced]

If you have a long midface, having a tall chin and horizontally wide thick eyebrows is what is going to save you every single time.

Yes I agree a broad chin is giving your more masculinity to your looks. And eyebrows ofc are important

 

[thecel]

yeah if you measure down to the middle of the lips

 

[hytt]

I'm talking about men jfl
Women need at least 1:1 ideally

What about pretty boys? If one is pretty boy maxing would 1:1 still be the ideal?