If age to buy alcohol is higher than age of consent, why is the penalty for statutory rape harsher than the penalty for providing alcohol to minors?

[Deleted member 20890]

If the age to buy alcohol is higher, that clearly indicates that alcohol consumption is more dangerous than sexual activity. Therefore shouldn’t circumventing that law and exposing the underage person to the illicit substance (alcohol) carry a harsher penalty?

@Xtra @MoggerGaston @randomop @Copeful @FaceAboveAll

 

[Gonthar]

Just another cucked American thing, they can drive cars at 16 but can only drink at 21, lol...

 

[Deleted member 31971]

I’m not sure

I still think we should marry during teen years like 100 years ago as girls will likely less whore out

 

[Deleted member 48689]

If the age to buy alcohol is higher, that clearly indicates that alcohol consumption is more dangerous than sexual activity. Therefore shouldn’t circumventing that law and exposing the underage person to the illicit substance (alcohol) carry a harsher penalty?

@Xtra @MoggerGaston @randomop @Copeful @FaceAboveAll

Discrimination against jbmaxxers

 

[Deleted member 20890]

Just another cucked American thing, they can drive cars at 16 but can only drink at 21, lol...

this isn’t only an American thing. The age of consent is lower than drinking age in every country in the entire world. America just has higher ages for both (21 for drinking vs 16-18 for sex), while Europe is 18 for drinking and 14-16 for sex.

 

[Gonthar]

this isn’t only an American thing. The age of consent is lower than drinking age in every country in the entire world. America just has higher ages for both (21 for drinking vs 16-18 for sex), while Europe is 18 for drinking and 14-16 for sex.

You're supposed to become an adult at 18, you can't put the drinking age at a randomly higher age, it's just stupid!

 

[Deleted member 20890]

You're supposed to become an adult at 18, you can't put the drinking age at a randomly higher age, it's just stupid!

That’s besides the point.

My point is why is circumventing the laws about alcohol punished less harsh than the laws regarding sex if alcohol is more dangerous (at least according to the law.)

 

[john2]

well i agree with you

 

[Deleted member 20890]

What’s the penalty for statutory rape in the states?

What happens if a man in his 20s lets say bangs a 14 or 15 year old girl,

What’s the harshest sentence they can receive

Depends on the state but often several years.

@Xtra can u ask aladin to unignore me

I’m not ignoring u.

 

[Deleted member 54067]

If the age to buy alcohol is higher, that clearly indicates that alcohol consumption is more dangerous than sexual activity. Therefore shouldn’t circumventing that law and exposing the underage person to the illicit substance (alcohol) carry a harsher penalty?

@Xtra @MoggerGaston @randomop @Copeful @FaceAboveAll

it's another mean of silencing us and anyone with a brain knows that "statutory rape" is deceptive word games

 

[Deleted member 54067]

If the age to buy alcohol is higher, that clearly indicates that alcohol consumption is more dangerous than sexual activity. Therefore shouldn’t circumventing that law and exposing the underage person to the illicit substance (alcohol) carry a harsher penalty?

@Xtra @MoggerGaston @randomop @Copeful @FaceAboveAll

 

[Deleted member 54067]

@Xtra can u ask aladin to unignore me

done

 

[Deleted member 20890]

well i agree with you

Why do you think the laws are structured this way? It seems to me they just want to punish men for jbmaxxing.

 

[Matthias8272]

Could be because one is person on person and one is person on substance

 

[Deleted member 20890]

what does several years mean, 1-3? 10-20 ?

what steps can we take towards getting it lowered and why aren't the republicans trying to get it lowered, this should be 1# of their priorities list i thought they weren't cucked

Republicans are sadly cucked on age of consent for two reasons:

1. They support child marriage, but age of consent regards sex outside of marriage.
2. Americans are mega agecucks so arguing for lowering age of consent is “social suicide” or “political suicide” and is often avoided.

Could be because one is person on person and one is person on substance

fail to see how this matters.

 

[Deleted member 20890]

What’s the penalty for statutory rape in the states?

What happens if a man in his 20s lets say bangs a 14 or 15 year old girl,

What’s the harshest sentence they can receive

 

[Matthias8272]

Republicans are sadly cucked on age of consent for two reasons:

1. They support child marriage, but age of consent regards sex outside of marriage.
2. Americans are mega agecucks so arguing for lowering age of consent is “social suicide” or “political suicide” and is often avoided.

fail to see how this matters.

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[Deleted member 20890]

Because generally you're punished worse if you inflict something negative onto others compared to yourself

Providing alcohol to minors is inflicting something negative on someone else.

 

[Matthias8272]

Disregard I thought the thread was just consuming alcohol not providing. But I also think that giving alcohol is still considered more ethical than sex with someone people consider underage. Since it's something normal and more culturally accepted

 

[Deleted member 20890]

Disregard I thought the thread was just consuming alcohol not providing. But I also think that giving alcohol is still considered more ethical than sex with someone people consider underage. Since it's something normal and more culturally accepted

But why is that though? The law clearly suggests that alcohol is more dangerous.

 

[Matthias8272]

But why is that though? The law clearly suggests that alcohol is more dangerous.

Well I guess ethical relativism just comes about for different places. But in regards to an actual reason I would guess it's considered non consensual as they believe the girls brain isn't fully developed enough to consent, and that's worse than giving alcohol to someone which again is more culturally accepted. Also probably less damaging with average consumption or even above average, compared to the girls experience regardless of how she viewed it since by law she doesn't have the ability to consent and was being taken advantage of

 

[Deleted member 62931]

weird thread

 

[Deleted member 62931]

Well I guess ethical relativism just comes about for different places. But in regards to an actual reason I would guess it's considered non consensual as they believe the girls brain isn't fully developed enough to consent, and that's worse than giving alcohol to someone which again is more culturally accepted. Also probably less damaging with average consumption or even above average, compared to the girls experience regardless of how she viewed it since by law she doesn't have the ability to consent and was being taken advantage of

high iq

 

[Deleted member 20890]

Also probably less damaging with average consumption or even above average, compared to the girls experience regardless of how she viewed it since by law she doesn't have the ability to consent and was being taken advantage of

I said nothing about the younger person being a girl. Furthermore how exactly is it more damaging? Alcohol is a drug that can potentially cause addiction and also other negative effects on the body, where as sex that someone engages in willingly does not.

 

[Matthias8272]

I said nothing about the younger person being a girl. Furthermore how exactly is it more damaging? Alcohol is a drug that can potentially cause addiction and also other negative effects on the body, where as sex that someone engages in willingly does not.

Girls account for 80+ percent of statutory rape victims hence mentioning girls. And it's damaging because people perceive it as them being taken advantage of sexually without them knowing. Alcohol can cause those things however it's just a probability someone would become addicted, whereas there's a 100% probability the person has been taken advantage of sexually (as they view them as incapable of giving consent).

To clarify I don't hold these views I'm just trying to think from their perspective

 

[Deleted member 20890]

You're supposed to become an adult at 18, you can't put the drinking age at a randomly higher age, it's just stupid!

Girls account for 80+ percent of statutory rape victims hence mentioning girls. And it's damaging because people perceive it as them being taken advantage of sexually without them knowing. Alcohol can cause those things however it's just a probability someone would become addicted, whereas there's a 100% probability the person has been taken advantage of sexually (as they view them as incapable of giving consent).

To clarify I don't hold these views I'm just trying to think from their perspective

I think people underestimate the problems with drinking alcohol at a young age.

Europe has lower drinking ages than the US — and worse teen drinking problems

The data tells the story.

www.vox.com

The problem, though, is that from a lawmakers perspective, they should be aware that drinking alcohol is more dangerous.

 

[john2]

Why do you think the laws are structured this way? It seems to me they just want to punish men for jbmaxxing.

i think so too

 

[klip11]

That’s besides the point.

My point is why is circumventing the laws about alcohol punished less harsh than the laws regarding sex if alcohol is more dangerous (at least according to the law.)

Because old roasties want to gate keep younger women from older men. Average 30 year old woman thinks it should be illegal for a man her age to even talk to a girl more than 3 years younger than him.