If God exists, he must love some more than others

[trvegoy]

I'm a skeptical Christian, but I feel like with how much your genetic makeup and place of birth predetermine your love life, religion (and thereby afterlife according to religious people), social capital, monetary success etc., God couldn't possibly make everyone "equal in his image". How is it fair that some people are western, nt, wealthy chads and stacies without working for it while others starve to death post-partum.

 

[greylurker]

I'm a skeptical Christian, but I feel like with how much your genetic makeup and place of birth predetermine your love life, religion (and thereby afterlife according to religious people), social capital, monetary success etc., God couldn't possibly make everyone "equal in his image". How is it fair that some people are western, nt, wealthy chads and stacies without working for it while others starve to death post-partum.

yes this is a constantly brought up arguement to disprove the existence of god, suffering is a massive paradox where it is completely disprpoportional, e.g. income, looks. we are not equal as much as we try to deny it, and an omnibenelovent god wouldnt favourite certain people

 

[trvegoy]

yes this is a constantly brought up arguement to disprove the existence of god, suffering is a massive paradox where it is completely disprpoportional, e.g. income, looks. we are not equal as much as we try to deny it, and an omnibenelovent god wouldnt favourite certain people

Exactly, especially since this favoritism isn't based on past experiences or anything, it's completely unjust, as much as us on the forum may complain about being genetically fucked, globally we are probably like 50-60th percentile

 

[accinr]

god doesnt exist
this is it

 

[trvegoy]

god doesnt exist
this is it

What's your argument?

 

[accinr]

What's your argument?

like you said unjustified suffering
no proof of his existence either

 

[trvegoy]

like you said unjustified suffering
no proof of his existence either

Fair enough

 

[n1ks09]

Sb can't be bp'd and christian
Think also that if a god needs a hell he isn't all loving cuz the world that he created isn't perfect anyway
That means that bad ppl and sin shouln't have even existed if god was all loving

 

[supersaiyancarp27]

just er

 

[supersaiyancarp27]

Sb can't be bp'd and christian
Think also that if a god needs a hell he isn't all loving cuz the world that he created isn't perfect anyway
That means that bad ppl and sin shouln't have even existed if god was all loving

who’s ur god if you’re blackpilled

 

[n1ks09]

who’s ur god if you’re blackpilled

no one
I just said christian cuz most of believers are christians mb

 

[trvegoy]

Sb can't be bp'd and christian
Think also that if a god needs a hell he isn't all loving cuz the world that he created isn't perfect anyway
That means that bad ppl and sin shouln't have even existed if god was all loving

Yeah exactly

 

[trvegoy]

who’s ur god if you’re blackpilled

Buddha or some shit idk

 

[supersaiyancarp27]

Buddha or some shit idk

i am my own god

 

[AutistKhan]

and then you realize we didnt let bad gens die out and we didnt massacare ugly people so we have to endure it

 

[supersaiyancarp27]

Buddha or some shit idk

some people have david gandy as their god but i don’t

 

[Morgan]

Sb can't be bp'd and christian
Think also that if a god needs a hell he isn't all loving cuz the world that he created isn't perfect anyway
That means that bad ppl and sin shouln't have even existed if god was all loving

u absolutely can. Only the worst of the worst go to hell most people go to purgatory and then to heaven. only ppl who commit acts like heresy go to hell. Sin can absolutely exsist no matter what because god gives us free will and does not stop us from sinning it is rather human nature that causes us to sin. u can not blame god for sin

 

[trvegoy]

and then you realize we didnt let bad gens die out and we didnt massacare ugly people so we have to endure it

Exactly, eugenics and transhumanism is the way forward

 

[trvegoy]

just er

DOR was such a letdown, he just shot randoms with no correlation and didn't plan out how he'd survive to day two, er shouldn't even be remembered tbh

 

[trvegoy]

u absolutely can. Only the worst of the worst go to hell most people go to purgatory and then to heaven. only ppl who commit acts like heresy go to hell. Sin can absolutely exsist no matter what because god gives us free will and does not stop us from sinning it is rather human nature that causes us to sin. u can not blame god for sin

How do you defend genetic favoritism then? If God crafted us in the womb, he meticulously made some people better off than others

 

[AutistKhan]

Exactly, eugenics and transhumanism is the way forward

nigga transhumanism is just putting an ai cheap in your brain so jews control you, eugenics is needed

 

[trvegoy]

nigga transhumanism is just putting an ai cheap in your brain so jews control you, eugenics is needed

Thats just the Jewish interpretation of transhumanism, but yeah its a last resort if natural eugenics doesnt work.

 

[AutistKhan]

How do you defend genetic favoritism then? If God crafted us in the womb, he meticulously made some people better off than others

its called uncanny valley, we biologicly hate ugly people like if humans never forced women to choose who to marry we all would be 7ft by now

 

[Morgan]

How do you defend genetic favoritism then? If God crafted us in the womb, he meticulously made some people better off than others

I never said God does not have favorites. The statement is God's love is universal meaning he loves everyone that does not mean he loves everyone equally God creates everyone for a purpose and for those purposes people will not always be chads. Think about God's love as the universe and all the stars and planets. Each person is a star or planet the bigger they r the more god loves them but they r still there hence god still loves them but not as much as others for a purpose and to show a certain idea through their life

 

[AutistKhan]

we only should let the top 10% gens to have kids , like if hes naturally hmtn but hes low iq asf hes not passing but if hes like hltn but high iq he is passing

 

[truefoidslayerpqoqo]

I'm a skeptical Christian, but I feel like with how much your genetic makeup and place of birth predetermine your love life, religion (and thereby afterlife according to religious people), social capital, monetary success etc., God couldn't possibly make everyone "equal in his image". How is it fair that some people are western, nt, wealthy chads and stacies without working for it while others starve to death post-partum.

If god exist he def not loves me

 

[hauntohalic]

I'm a skeptical Christian, but I feel like with how much your genetic makeup and place of birth predetermine your love life, religion (and thereby afterlife according to religious people), social capital, monetary success etc., God couldn't possibly make everyone "equal in his image". How is it fair that some people are western, nt, wealthy chads and stacies without working for it while others starve to death post-partum.

god doesnt decide ur genetics or what illnesses u get its fully randomized and he does not intervene in these things as it would not be true free will if he did

 

[AutistKhan]

the best example would be India, they had forced marrieges for 1000 of yeas and look at them now, compared to europe where forced marrieges were only for elites

 

[accinr]

u absolutely can. Only the worst of the worst go to hell most people go to purgatory and then to heaven. only ppl who commit acts like heresy go to hell. Sin can absolutely exsist no matter what because god gives us free will and does not stop us from sinning it is rather human nature that causes us to sin. u can not blame god for sin

fairytale

 

[trvegoy]

its called uncanny valley, we biologicly hate ugly people like if humans never forced women to choose who to marry we all would be 7ft by now

Shit thats lowkey a good ass point bro

 

[Morgan]

fairytale

'fairytale' has no counter arguement

 

[trvegoy]

god doesnt decide ur genetics or what illnesses u get its fully randomized and he does not intervene in these things as it would not be true free will if he did

Does it not say in the bible that God individually crafts us?

 

[trvegoy]

we only should let the top 10% gens to have kids , like if hes naturally hmtn but hes low iq asf hes not passing but if hes like hltn but high iq he is passing

Not 10%, maybe top 30%

 

[AutistKhan]

in todays society we are brainwashed by empathy , and we force a disabled person to live on this earth instead of killing him at birth, trust your biology bhaijans

 

[accinr]

'fairytale' has no counter arguement

all of this is just some book, provide evidence of said purgatory and hell
the burden of proof is on you in retrospect jfl dont muhh no counter argument me

 

[Morgan]

all of this is just some book, provide evidence of said purgatory and hell
the burden of proof is on you in retrospect jfl dont muhh no counter argument me

I will muhh no counter arguement u all I want

 

[accinr]

I will muhh no counter arguement u all I want

kill yourself

 

[iblamechico]

u absolutely can. Only the worst of the worst go to hell most people go to purgatory and then to heaven. only ppl who commit acts like heresy go to hell. Sin can absolutely exsist no matter what because god gives us free will and does not stop us from sinning it is rather human nature that causes us to sin. u can not blame god for sin

just typing shit

 

[Morgan]

just typing shit

ok

 

[hauntohalic]

Does it not say in the bible that God individually crafts us?

its more close to him viewing our creation but he doesnt directly decide every individual part of ur creation
eitherway suffering on this world is a result of eve deciding to consume the forbidden fruit and creating chaos within this world.
"i didnt consent to this suffering caused by eve why do i have to pay the price" adam and eve are the ultimate representation of humanity as they were created without the chaotic imperfections caused by the current world we live in, this makes them optimal when it comes to seeing what humanity as a whole would do

 

[Daddy's Home]

The Christian argument in this case is that anything related to poverty / disease is due to people and their free will decisions, and has no correlation with God

It's basically people's decision and free will to be poor / leave others poor, to breed and have children with people who have genetics that can lead to various unexpected diseases like autism etc.

It's like shooting yourself or shooting someone else with a gun and complaining that God invented the gun

Like it's not God's problem that the ugly/sick keep breeding because they want to continue the cycle instead of leaving only the attractive and healthy to give life to future generations..

 

[supersaiyancarp27]

my own new empire

 

[trvegoy]

its more close to him viewing our creation but he doesnt directly decide every individual part of ur creation
eitherway suffering on this world is a result of eve deciding to consume the forbidden fruit and creating chaos within this world.
"i didnt consent to this suffering caused by eve why do i have to pay the price" adam and eve are the ultimate representation of humanity as they were created without the chaotic imperfections caused by the current world we live in, this makes them optimal when it comes to seeing what humanity as a whole would do

Fair enough, I've always heard pastors imply that we individually were sculpted in the womb out of possible genetic outcomes

 

[supersaiyancarp27]

i was never really that religious but mabye i should have

 

[Morgan]

The Christian argument in this case is that anything related to poverty / disease is due to people and their free will decisions, and has no correlation with God

It's basically people's decision and free will to be poor / leave others poor, to breed and have children with people who have genetics that can lead to various unexpected diseases like autism etc.

It's like shooting yourself or shooting someone else with a gun and complaining that God invented the gun

Like it's not God's problem that the ugly/sick keep breeding because they want to continue the cycle instead of leaving only the attractive and healthy to give life to future generations..

Correcto mundo

 

[shngstaaaa107]

You could argue that Adam and Eve is just a creation myth/tale that is meant to tell a lesson, as do most Christians, who believe the Earth in 6 days thing is a cautionary tale

Then you could reason genetic differences, evolution and such, are intended by God with the "first" humans being made in gods image or every person being made in his image, as in, a human where facial traits may be different

Still, the idea of genetic disease and parasites kind of defeats this whole this I wrote above

 

[trvegoy]

You could argue that Adam and Eve is just a creation myth/tale that is meant to tell a lesson, as do most Christians, who believe the Earth in 6 days thing is a cautionary tale

Then you could reason genetic differences, evolution and such, are intended by God with the "first" humans being made in gods image or every person being made in his image, as in, a human where facial traits may be different

Still, the idea of genetic disease and parasites kind of defeats this whole this I wrote above

Good point boyo

 

[iblamechico]

and then you realize we didnt let bad gens die out and we didnt massacare ugly people so we have to endure it

God prohibits murder dumb ass nigga

adam and eve are the ultimate representation of humanity as they were created without the chaotic imperfections caused by the current world we live in, this makes them optimal when it comes to seeing what humanity as a whole would do

So sinning is the optimal human decision? Why did god make them like that? Is he dumb?

The Christian argument in this case is that anything related to poverty / disease is due to people and their free will decisions, and has no correlation with God

It's basically people's decision and free will to be poor / leave others poor, to breed and have children with people who have genetics that can lead to various unexpected diseases like autism etc.

It's like shooting yourself or shooting someone else with a gun and complaining that God invented the gun

Like it's not God's problem that the ugly/sick keep breeding because they want to continue the cycle instead of leaving only the attractive and healthy to give life to future generations..

God said to populate the earth. God also said not to murder so we can't kill the ugly niggas. God also created humans to be naturally patriarchal which means ugly niggas will be able to procreate as long as they provide monetary value. God also put a forbidden fruit in the very same garden he put Adam and Eve. God created the snake thay tempted Adam and Eve. God also let Adam and eve ate the forbidden fruit for some reason. God cursed them for using their free will that he gave them.

 

[NorwegianMigrant]

I'm a skeptical Christian, but I feel like with how much your genetic makeup and place of birth predetermine your love life, religion (and thereby afterlife according to religious people), social capital, monetary success etc., God couldn't possibly make everyone "equal in his image". How is it fair that some people are western, nt, wealthy chads and stacies without working for it while others starve to death post-partum.

Is God cruel for creating some with "beauty" and some without or is man cruel for judging those without

 

[hauntohalic]

So sinning is the optimal human decision? Why did god make them like that? Is he dumb?

optimal accuracy as in what humanity would do and if u look around everyone is constantly sinning