If my bf% is 20-25, can I maintain calories and build muscle while losing fat?

[Mezo103]

Or do I have to bulk then cut?

 

[Deleted member 28927]

just twinkmaxx like idid

 

[m0ss26]

To build muscle and lose fat at the same time is a very slow process and usually cannot work unless you are relatively new to gym or are taking PEDs. Otherwise best thing to do while cutting is just preserve as much muscle mass as possible

 

[Mezo103]

To build muscle and lose fat at the same time is a very slow process and usually cannot work unless you are relatively new to gym or are taking PEDs. Otherwise best thing to do while cutting is just preserve as much muscle mass as possible

What should be the upper limit of my calorie deficit to not lose muscle mass?

 

[Deleted member 1901]

Fat

 

[m0ss26]

What should be the upper limit of my calorie deficit to not lose muscle mass?

Are u new to the gym? How in check is ur nutrition, training, and sleep quality? I’d recommend 0.5-1 pound a week lost so like subtract 400 from ur maintenance. Take it slow, do everything right, get ur protein in and be patient so you can minimize amount of muscle loss. If you’re new to gym you can probably put on a little muscle while cutting too

 

[Mezo103]

Are u new to the gym? How in check is ur nutrition, training, and sleep quality? I’d recommend 0.5-1 pound a week lost so like subtract 400 from ur maintenance. Take it slow, do everything right, get ur protein in and be patient so you can minimize amount of muscle loss. If you’re new to gym you can probably put on a little muscle while cutting too

Only took it seriously for like 2 months and I did add a good amount of muscle cuz I went on a dirty bulk. But also got so fat cuz of it and now I lost like half of the weight I added but I realized the weight I lost included some muscle mass since my strength did go down by like 25%

 

[m0ss26]

Only took it seriously for like 2 months and I did add a good amount of muscle cuz I went on a dirty bulk. But also got so fat cuz of it and now I lost like half of the weight I added but I realized the weight I lost included some muscle mass since my strength did go down by like 25%

yah bro cut to like 14% bf relatively slow, you still will get noobie gains so chances are u can put on some muscle while cutting if you do it all right. When ur done cutting go on a slow bulk and stop at around 20%

 

[Gus17]

Or do I have to bulk then cut?

Don’t bulk just cut and build muscle. I gained a great amount of muscle while cutting by 400 cal. Depends partly on genetics but newbie gains should outweigh the deficit.

 

[inwardgonionscel]

Don’t bulk just cut and build muscle. I gained a great amount of muscle while cutting by 400 cal. Depends partly on genetics but newbie gains should outweigh the deficit.

Bro stop coping and get on sarms and i'm not a dumb sarm goblin

 

[Gus17]

Bro stop coping and get on sarms and i'm not a dumb sarm goblin

Taking steroids is literally so low iq you’re destroying your body long term for temporary gains. If you got decent genetics all you need is to lift, be lean, and eat a good amount of protein. Your physique should fill out from that no need to get body builder levels when woman don’t even like that.

 

[inwardgonionscel]

Taking steroids is literally so low iq you’re destroying your body long term for temporary gains. If you got decent genetics all you need is to lift, be lean, and eat a good amount of protein. Your physique should fill out from that no need to get body builder levels when woman don’t even like that.

Are you aware of wimp genetics ? Some people take so much fucking time losing weight and gaining muscle why not throw some shit in there to make it easier and quicker ? And if smart you can choose the right compounds right ancilliaries right period of time and shit and take advantage of it without getting acne norwooding..

 

[Gus17]

Are you aware of wimp genetics ? Some people take so much fucking time losing weight and gaining muscle

The average person doesn’t need a body builder level to get the body halo. They just need to lift for like 1-2 years consistently with enough protein.

why not throw some shit in there to make it easier and quicker ? And if smart you can choose the right compounds right ancilliaries right period of time and shit and take advantage of it without getting acne norwooding..

Steroid will destroy your body and you won’t be able to maintain the physique without continuing to take them.

 

[5OuttaTen]

What should be the upper limit of my calorie deficit to not lose muscle mass?

400 maybe

 

[inwardgonionscel]

The average person doesn’t need a body builder level to get the body halo. They just need to lift for like 1-2 years consistently with enough protein.

Steroid will destroy your body and you won’t be able to maintain the physique without continuing to take them.

I didn't even talk about sarms but whatever, like i said if you do it well it won't fuck your health collagen and stuff. Once again sarms for example makes shit easier and quicker with a better final result. And if you're even more smart and know what you're doing you actually will keep almost all muscle you gained during your cycle but it won't happen to u cuz u seem to be low iq + autistic ngl

 

[inwardgonionscel]

The average person doesn’t need a body builder level to get the body halo. They just need to lift for like 1-2 years consistently with enough protein.

Steroid will destroy your body and you won’t be able to maintain the physique without continuing to take them.

I didn't talk about steroids*

 

[Gus17]

I didn't even talk about sarms but whatever, like i said if you do it well it won't fuck your health collagen and stuff. Once again sarms for example makes shit easier and quicker with a better final result. And if you're even more smart and know what you're doing you actually will keep almost all muscle you gained during your cycle but it won't happen to u cuz u seem to be low iq + autistic ngl

Enjoy destroying your test level and shrinking your balls. Every drug user loves to talk about how safe they are.

 

[inwardgonionscel]

Enjoy destroying your test level and shrinking your balls. Every drug user loves to talk about how safe they are.

Yup i knew you were fucking dumb, well nigger because i know what i'm doing i'm using enclomophine wich shoots m'y natural test even higher than before being on cycle balls heavy asf high libido and just have more fucking semen i can feel it. So i'm actually doing more good than harm in my case cuz i'm not a dumb sarm goblin

 

[Mezo103]

I didn't even talk about sarms but whatever, like i said if you do it well it won't fuck your health collagen and stuff. Once again sarms for example makes shit easier and quicker with a better final result. And if you're even more smart and know what you're doing you actually will keep almost all muscle you gained during your cycle but it won't happen to u cuz u seem to be low iq + autistic ngl

SARMS are not steriods??

 

[inwardgonionscel]

SARMS are not steriods??

No they're not, except Yk-11 wich is a steroidal Sarm due to it's molecular structure but whatever. Ostarine for example burns some fat and build some muscle with really fucking no side effects or really small ones you just have to use nac or tufca to keep your liver healthy