If you are thinking about roiding read this thread.

[TitusA]

That's you, you fucking retard. Most people would never be able to pull off those dosages.

Explain the logic behind that statement. You literally have 0 molecules of proof and pulled that idea out of your ass.

Just rape your body even earlier theory.

Says the one that rots here since 2020. I can imagine your subhuman roidcel face through the screen trying to argue with me.

Yes I rot here but I have half the number of posts you do despite being on here for 3 years longer.

Just chill bro before you have an aneurysm.

 

[TitusA]

I literally gave you advice retard. Nice edit right there, almost didn't see the message.

Post the dms of this advice lol. U messaged me first asking for discord. I don't give a fk about you and I don't need your advice on shit. wtf would i need advice on lol? Ive ran gear for 10 years and all im running is trt atm.

 

[Jonasㅤㅤ⠀]

Yes I rot here but I have half the number of posts you do despite being on here for 3 years longer.

Post-rep ratio speaks for itself.

Post the dms of this advice lol. U messaged me first asking for discord. I don't give a fk about you and I don't need your advice on shit.

Don't have the PMs saved.

Nigga asked about MK677 just a few months ago

 

[TitusA]

Post-rep ratio speaks for itself.

Don't have the PMs saved.

Nigga asked about MK677 just a few months ago
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I asked if your hair grew quicker because ive seen anecdotes on it but no data. Thats all lol. I dont need your advice on anything. Same way btw if somebody had use a steroid I haven't used I might ask how good the gains they got were.

That was also not in DM. You are now so upset that you are posting on my profile and scrolling looking for shit you can post.

The post-rep ratio doesnt mean shit. I dont post threads trying to farm rep like you do. IDGAF about rep on an internet forum. Just like I dont care about anybody on here. You care so much that you throw a shitfit about somebody disagreeing with you (because I guess you think it might harm your forum rep). Get a life bro.

 

[Jonasㅤㅤ⠀]

You are now so upset that you are posting on my profile and scrolling looking for shit you can post.

I just reposted your smart idea that it would be a good trade-off blasting 700mg of tren for "bone mass"

Looksmin.org, mirin how you try to decrease competition

You still didn't provide any images backing up your LARP.

You care so much that you throw a shitfit about somebody disagreeing with you (because I guess you think it might harm your forum rep). Get a life bro.

It's funny arguing with you because you subhuman reply to me like a cuck. You enjoy my attention don't you?

 

[TitusA]

I just reposted your smart idea that it would be a good trade-off blasting 700mg of tren for "bone mass"

You still didn't provide any images backing up your LARP.

It's funny arguing with you because you subhuman reply to me like a cuck. You enjoy my attention don't you?

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Never said it would be a smart idea and have never recommended it to anybody. Simply said my experience. You know being so upset about disagreements on an internet forum isn't normal right?

 

[realshit]

yea, u speaking my mind dude, I am tired of debating new cels, just like mewing, hoping on hgh and roids are the new meme lmao.

also mirin knowledge brother

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NO GREY REPLY familypill​

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[realshit]

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[HEADING=3]realshit​

NO GREY REPLY familypill​

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have you ever seen my threads, methods and theories? no? soo sybau

 

[veggiedietcell]

have you ever seen my threads, methods and theories? no? soo sybau

@Jonas2k7 can u review his shitty threads and theories?

 

[realshit]

@Jonas2k7 can u review his shitty threads and theories?

IMMAGE tag a dude Who said roid Is cope One of the worst user oat

 

[veggiedietcell]

IMMAGE tag a dude Who said roid Is cope One of the worst user oat

Its cope

 

[veggiedietcell]

IMMAGE tag a dude Who said roid Is cope One of the worst user oat

have you ever seen my threads, methods and theories? no? soo sybau

hight iq palate expansion for poorcel

1 USE YOUR STRONG THUMB CROSS YOUR SUTURE AS IF YOU HAD TO RUN A LANGUAGE ROAD, YOU MUST GO WITH MAXIMUM STRENGTH 2 LATERAL THUMBPULL FULL FORCE (THE ""JORDAN WOOD " THUMBPULL) 3 DO A CHIN TUCKS AND MEW AS HARD AS YOU CAN DO THIS 6+ TIME AT DAY , DO.IT FREQUENTLY IF THE SUTURES OPEN AND CLOSE...

looksmax.org

Muhh thumbpulling, nvm jfl @Jonas2k7

Tiktokcel at its peak

 

[alriodai]

could be one of the best reality checks threads i've read OP, if there was a repost button style wise like on tiktok for here would have reposted it 1000 times

it's just cagefuel seeing people under 18 wanting to do crazy roids when they're not even yet developping, do they think their life end at 20 or 21? wtf jfl

i was also victim of this when i was 15 and on this website, wanting to roid that early, i am so glad that i didn't have the money to go thru that early

most users here would literally have their "dream physique" or a "looksmaxxed physique" by 1 year going natty, and ACTUALLY BE CONSISTENT as in good sleep diet training, but you know what's funny when i tell them this? they tlel me "nooo bro i don't wnat my face to be puffy because of bulking so i'll do it" (fucking retards JFL)

the problem with these fellas that want to roid is just that they're just lazy asf and want an easy solution to not being consistent in something as important as the gym, it's cagefuel that their gains will all go away once they get off because they'ill stop going or stop being consistent

the thing you said on time and effort is the most spot on, niggas here will take months just to buy Retin-A and start a skincare after years of being on .org (i'm being dead ass serious) and daydream by making their future "plans" for roiding and stuff while they can't even be consistent in the gym for a few weeks, oh yeah, let me add on that they probably have extreme shit form in the gym most likely and their brain isn't used to the training part, nor the diet part most likely, and they wanna hop on, just cage


for the health and looks part of your thread, it's funny because all users here (and even i fall to it bc of human nature sometimes, but not as much as others since i became self aware of it) is that niggas here think they're super special and the expection, they tend to overestimate how "rare" they are and just assume
"yeah bro i won't bald anyway or have health issues i've seen others that didn't so i must be one of the good ones"
then we know how that ends

good thread and tldr for my post: listen to op, just natty lift, only do roiding after you're actually used to the gym, bulking, cutting, the actual basics, and after 18 (should be 20-21 imo)

it's like the equivalent of learning just how to throw a jab and u think u have what it got to fight with young mike tyson because ur "special"

 

[skullmog]

plenty of bodybuilders with sons
although its not as common

 

[Jonasㅤㅤ⠀]

could be one of the best reality checks threads i've read OP, if there was a repost button style wise like on tiktok for here would have reposted it 1000 times

it's just cagefuel seeing people under 18 wanting to do crazy roids when they're not even yet developping, do they think their life end at 20 or 21? wtf jfl

i was also victim of this when i was 15 and on this website, wanting to roid that early, i am so glad that i didn't have the money to go thru that early

most users here would literally have their "dream physique" or a "looksmaxxed physique" by 1 year going natty, and ACTUALLY BE CONSISTENT as in good sleep diet training, but you know what's funny when i tell them this? they tlel me "nooo bro i don't wnat my face to be puffy because of bulking so i'll do it" (fucking retards JFL)

the problem with these fellas that want to roid is just that they're just lazy asf and want an easy solution to not being consistent in something as important as the gym, it's cagefuel that their gains will all go away once they get off because they'ill stop going or stop being consistent

the thing you said on time and effort is the most spot on, niggas here will take months just to buy Retin-A and start a skincare after years of being on .org (i'm being dead ass serious) and daydream by making their future "plans" for roiding and stuff while they can't even be consistent in the gym for a few weeks, oh yeah, let me add on that they probably have extreme shit form in the gym most likely and their brain isn't used to the training part, nor the diet part most likely, and they wanna hop on, just cage


for the health and looks part of your thread, it's funny because all users here (and even i fall to it bc of human nature sometimes, but not as much as others since i became self aware of it) is that niggas here think they're super special and the expection, they tend to overestimate how "rare" they are and just assume
"yeah bro i won't bald anyway or have health issues i've seen others that didn't so i must be one of the good ones"
then we know how that ends

good thread and tldr for my post: listen to op, just natty lift, only do roiding after you're actually used to the gym, bulking, cutting, the actual basics, and after 18 (should be 20-21 imo)

it's like the equivalent of learning just how to throw a jab and u think u have what it got to fight with young mike tyson because ur "special"

I noticed most users on here fit into the following categories:

1. Lazy individuals that won't try in the first place
2. Also lazy people that will do anything, aslong as it doesn't require much effort long-term

People seriously think they are all above 50th percentile in terms of basically anything. I would argue most users on here are even below that, though that deviation got smaller with org becoming more mainstream.

Appreciate the comment.

@imontheloose let me know your thoughts.

 

[alriodai]

I noticed most users on here fit into the following categories:

1. Lazy individuals that won't try in the first place
2. Also lazy people that will do anything, aslong as it doesn't require much effort long-term

People seriously think they are all above 50th percentile in terms of basically anything. I would argue most users on here are even below that, though that deviation got smaller with org becoming more mainstream.

Appreciate the comment.

@imontheloose let me know your thoughts.

yup, just facts, being a lurker for 6 years and user as 5 years, and i self admit that as a teenager, i used to be heavy guilty of this behavior
most users here are ADHDmaxxed brainrotted people, that LARP ABOUT THE MOST BASIC STUFF, not even talking about the main character syndrome we talked about

if (ofc, pre this blackpill shit got viral) you got into this website in the first place it means you're below average in terms of life quality (average user) and you can't do shit or is stunted as fuck in one area of life

i don't even think niggas here wanna roid, they just want to get quickest ascension asap possible, and in reality, they won't do shit in any sapect of their life, because they'ill just stay forever lazy

if they just lifted natty for 3-6 months consintently and saw the good results they would stop thinking about roids asap

 

[realshit]

hight iq palate expansion for poorcel

1 USE YOUR STRONG THUMB CROSS YOUR SUTURE AS IF YOU HAD TO RUN A LANGUAGE ROAD, YOU MUST GO WITH MAXIMUM STRENGTH 2 LATERAL THUMBPULL FULL FORCE (THE ""JORDAN WOOD " THUMBPULL) 3 DO A CHIN TUCKS AND MEW AS HARD AS YOU CAN DO THIS 6+ TIME AT DAY , DO.IT FREQUENTLY IF THE SUTURES OPEN AND CLOSE...

looksmax.org

Muhh thumbpulling, nvm jfl @Jonas2k7

Tiktokcel at its peak

https://web.archive.org/web/2016070...ooksmax-Belt-facepulling?pid=952783#pid952783

I THUMPULLED FOR 6 MONTHS AND HERE ARE MY RESULTS.....

Before: (Apologies for the shitty lighting) After: Age: 19 Routine: I thumb pulled every hour for 5 minutes. 12 sessions minimum a day. Takes alot of dedication may not be for everyone. Benefits: -Jaw came forward significantly.(combined with chin tucking.) -wider midface/cheekbones...

looksmax.org

yea Bro tikok cel

 

[Jonasㅤㅤ⠀]

@alriodai @chadisbeingmade

 

[chadisbeingmade]

@alriodai @chadisbeingmade
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genetics

 

[copercel123]

This is a continuation of my last thread regarding roids.

Bonesmashing doesn't work. Roiding doesn't change the facial structure.

Nobody had results with it, Loox doesn't count because he had other procedures done. Show me only one before and after of bonesmashing changing the face. I'm not saying it doesn't work because nobody had results with it, they don't work because the concept itself of "growing" the bone is flawed...

looksmax.org

Average thread nowadays:

View attachment 3658849

---

I'm seeing more and more users on here that want to roid for the purpose of enhancing their facial bones.

For most people that wouldn't even work, especially for the ones after 14/15.

The body has its own regulatory mechanisms that prevent any supraphysiological growth, even @Seth Walsh talked about that years ago. IGF-1's binding proteins prevent any excess growth for example.

There also isn't a single case where roiding really improved the facial bones, if IFBB pros that use grams of gear don't experience any facial bone growth do you think some beginner cycle could result in that?

Also no, it isn't worth a try. It is absolutely retarded to roid as you are exchanging your health, looks, money, time and effort for almost no ROI.

I'll explain each real risk below:

1. Health.​

Especially oral roids completely nuke your lipids and cardiovascular health, if you have any health condition you are fucked.

Also people on roids are only able to have daughters, give up your dream to raise a son already. You'll only have a daughter you'll feed and raise for 16 years, until she gets gangbanged by low iq subhumans.

There are tons of other side effects I won't even list, just look at the global causes of death and now multiply your chances of getting each single one of them by 100.

2. Looks.​

If you aren't using tons of ancillaries to prevent any side effects, which can also become costly fast, you fuck your looks too.

If you believe that hair is life, you should stay the fuck away from roids. No, if you are anything above NW1 Finasteride and Dutasteride won't be enough to save you afterwards. Roiding will accelerate your hair loss by a lot.

Not even speaking of the sides of inhibiting 5AR, your mental drive, penis development, erections and other physiological processes will be reduced or stunted. If you want to use 5ARIs later in life sure, but you really want to start using them that early?

3. Money.​

Most users don't have any money to spend in the first place, you'd need to invest atleast 200-300 bucks for a good cycle. Also coming off is pretty hard, you'd have to titrate dosages down for a few months depending on the compounds used, run a full PCT which has a lot of side effects too and pray your HPTA-Axis comes back to baseline.

Also the blood tests you have to do before, during and after a cycle can cost a lot too. Good luck financing that and explaining to your parents why you want to check your bloods every few months. The average cost of these blood tests can vary between 100-300$+ depending on what you want to check.

4. Time.​

Good luck trying to source everything in the first place and paying online with crypto, gymcelling 6+ times a week and researching the compounds you need to use. Spoiler: Most things you hear about roids are straight up wrong. If you aren't willing to research countless hours before injecting hormones into your body don't even think about starting.

Also better find a hiding spot for your roids, regarding the peptides you'd have to cool them in your fridge.

5. Effort.​

If you aren't planning to completely lock in with your diet and training don't go on this website at this point, most of these kids that want to start roids aren't even lean in the first place.

Good luck eating low calories sometimes, going to the gym 6 times a week even if you don't have the time, doing hard workouts and getting the work done for years. There is a reason why most gymcels on roids look like shit.

---

Now you maybe asking yourself "Then what should I do instead?"

Train natty for a year and you don't have to worry about all this shit. After that year of training and lean bulking, just shred down to 8-10% bodyfat and you are pretty much "looksmaxxed". If you don't even want to do that, seriously don't think about roids.

Stop overcomplicating things, literally just get lean. It's one of the only things that actually make a difference.

Regarding facial bones the answer is simple: Just get either implants or osteotomies depending on your case.

---

Spoiler: TL;DR

Read the thread faggot, you don't get high effort threads every day on here.
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@chadisbeingmade @wishIwasSalludon @JohnBaza @PsychoH @menas

Bump

 

[Jonasㅤㅤ⠀]

Bump

Thanks

 

[cosmo]

Roiding made Orc turn into a fucking faggot

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Don’t know why I’m replying to this comment but would test improve dimorphism, don’t care about face bones mine are pretty decent, just need dimorphism if you see my posts

 

[imontheloose]

I noticed most users on here fit into the following categories:

1. Lazy individuals that won't try in the first place
2. Also lazy people that will do anything, aslong as it doesn't require much effort long-term

People seriously think they are all above 50th percentile in terms of basically anything. I would argue most users on here are even below that, though that deviation got smaller with org becoming more mainstream.

Appreciate the comment.

@imontheloose let me know your thoughts.

yup, just facts, being a lurker for 6 years and user as 5 years, and i self admit that as a teenager, i used to be heavy guilty of this behavior
most users here are ADHDmaxxed brainrotted people, that LARP ABOUT THE MOST BASIC STUFF, not even talking about the main character syndrome we talked about

if (ofc, pre this blackpill shit got viral) you got into this website in the first place it means you're below average in terms of life quality (average user) and you can't do shit or is stunted as fuck in one area of life

i don't even think niggas here wanna roid, they just want to get quickest ascension asap possible, and in reality, they won't do shit in any sapect of their life, because they'ill just stay forever lazy

if they just lifted natty for 3-6 months consintently and saw the good results they would stop thinking about roids asap

I do think this is true, but that was more so when I first joined in 2020. The character dynamics were so funny and it felt so much closer of a circle. I remember in 2022 seeing 1000 bluepillers and being shocked by it.

Nowadays, there are too many people to fit them into binary. Many come for a rating then fuck off. Others are just autists who are seeking a new identity granted they are unable to fit in socially. I would still agree for them two categories if you sorted the users into users who actually utilise the site, however.

The truth is, most people never get better on here. And laziness or dooming is the overall cause. It was both in my case for years.

 

[kwjqxlw99]

There also isn't a single case where roiding really improved the facial bones, if IFBB pros that use grams of gear don't experience any facial bone growth do you think some beginner cycle could result in that?

 

[charliewillascend]

This is a continuation of my last thread regarding roids.

Bonesmashing doesn't work. Roiding doesn't change the facial structure.

Nobody had results with it, Loox doesn't count because he had other procedures done. Show me only one before and after of bonesmashing changing the face. I'm not saying it doesn't work because nobody had results with it, they don't work because the concept itself of "growing" the bone is flawed...

looksmax.org

Average thread nowadays:

View attachment 3658849

---

I'm seeing more and more users on here that want to roid for the purpose of enhancing their facial bones.

For most people that wouldn't even work, especially for the ones after 14/15.

The body has its own regulatory mechanisms that prevent any supraphysiological growth, even @Seth Walsh talked about that years ago. IGF-1's binding proteins prevent any excess growth for example.

There also isn't a single case where roiding really improved the facial bones, if IFBB pros that use grams of gear don't experience any facial bone growth do you think some beginner cycle could result in that?

Also no, it isn't worth a try. It is absolutely retarded to roid as you are exchanging your health, looks, money, time and effort for almost no ROI.

I'll explain each real risk below:

1. Health.​

Especially oral roids completely nuke your lipids and cardiovascular health, if you have any health condition you are fucked.

Also people on roids are only able to have daughters, give up your dream to raise a son already. You'll only have a daughter you'll feed and raise for 16 years, until she gets gangbanged by low iq subhumans.

There are tons of other side effects I won't even list, just look at the global causes of death and now multiply your chances of getting each single one of them by 100.

2. Looks.​

If you aren't using tons of ancillaries to prevent any side effects, which can also become costly fast, you fuck your looks too.

If you believe that hair is life, you should stay the fuck away from roids. No, if you are anything above NW1 Finasteride and Dutasteride won't be enough to save you afterwards. Roiding will accelerate your hair loss by a lot.

Not even speaking of the sides of inhibiting 5AR, your mental drive, penis development, erections and other physiological processes will be reduced or stunted. If you want to use 5ARIs later in life sure, but you really want to start using them that early?

3. Money.​

Most users don't have any money to spend in the first place, you'd need to invest atleast 200-300 bucks for a good cycle. Also coming off is pretty hard, you'd have to titrate dosages down for a few months depending on the compounds used, run a full PCT which has a lot of side effects too and pray your HPTA-Axis comes back to baseline.

Also the blood tests you have to do before, during and after a cycle can cost a lot too. Good luck financing that and explaining to your parents why you want to check your bloods every few months. The average cost of these blood tests can vary between 100-300$+ depending on what you want to check.

4. Time.​

Good luck trying to source everything in the first place and paying online with crypto, gymcelling 6+ times a week and researching the compounds you need to use. Spoiler: Most things you hear about roids are straight up wrong. If you aren't willing to research countless hours before injecting hormones into your body don't even think about starting.

Also better find a hiding spot for your roids, regarding the peptides you'd have to cool them in your fridge.

5. Effort.​

If you aren't planning to completely lock in with your diet and training don't go on this website at this point, most of these kids that want to start roids aren't even lean in the first place.

Good luck eating low calories sometimes, going to the gym 6 times a week even if you don't have the time, doing hard workouts and getting the work done for years. There is a reason why most gymcels on roids look like shit.

---

Now you maybe asking yourself "Then what should I do instead?"

Train natty for a year and you don't have to worry about all this shit. After that year of training and lean bulking, just shred down to 8-10% bodyfat and you are pretty much "looksmaxxed". If you don't even want to do that, seriously don't think about roids.

Stop overcomplicating things, literally just get lean. It's one of the only things that actually make a difference.

Regarding facial bones the answer is simple: Just get either implants or osteotomies depending on your case.

---

Spoiler: TL;DR

Read the thread faggot, you don't get high effort threads every day on here.
View attachment 3658968

@chadisbeingmade @wishIwasSalludon @JohnBaza @PsychoH @menas

How wouldn’t steroids grow the facial bones ??? Especially if you’re under 25 and are taking a cycle like HGH and aromasin.

 

[Jonasㅤㅤ⠀]

Don’t know why I’m replying to this comment but would test improve dimorphism, don’t care about face bones mine are pretty decent, just need dimorphism if you see my posts

> Improve dimorphism
> Doesn't need facial bones

And to your question, no roids won't grow your fucking facial bones.

Dimorphim just refers to bones, height and anything associated with being a male.

I do think this is true, but that was more so when I first joined in 2020. The character dynamics were so funny and it felt so much closer of a circle. I remember in 2022 seeing 1000 bluepillers and being shocked by it.

Nowadays, there are too many people to fit them into binary. Many come for a rating then fuck off. Others are just autists who are seeking a new identity granted they are unable to fit in socially. I would still agree for them two categories if you sorted the users into users who actually utilise the site, however.

The truth is, most people never get better on here. And laziness or dooming is the overall cause. It was both in my case for years.

I agree. Most people will never ascend due to laziness or bad brain structure.

That is da true Blackpill.

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View attachment 3732466

Another retard.

That "change" is caused by enlarged masseters and temporalis.

How wouldn’t steroids grow the facial bones ??? Especially if you’re under 25 and are taking a cycle like HGH and aromasin.

Because it simply doesn't work like that normie.

You associate "heh testosterone " and "uh growth hormone " with anything manly.

@loyolaxavvierretard @Zagro

 

[charliewillascend]

> Improve dimorphism
> Doesn't need facial bones

And to your question, no roids won't grow your fucking facial bones.

Dimorphim just refers to bones, height and anything associated with being a male.

I agree. Most people will never ascend due to laziness or bad brain structure.

That is da true Blackpill.

Another retard.

That "change" is caused by enlarged masseters and temporalis.

View attachment 3737414View attachment 3737418


Because it simply doesn't work like that normie.

You associate "heh testosterone " and "uh growth hormone " with anything manly.

@loyolaxavvierretard @Zagro

Well how do you think anything ever happens in the body retard, something has to signal for bones to grow etc, and what is that normie?
HORMONES.

 

[Jonasㅤㅤ⠀]

Well how do you think anything ever happens in the body retard, something has to signal for bones to grow etc, and what is that normie?
HORMONES.

There are other pathways apart from AR and HGH/IGF-1 like anything in the TGF superfamily, ß-catenin and BMP.

After puberty I simply wouldn't count on pharmacological intervention to change the facial structure.

You are better off just getting the osteotomies and implants you need for predictable and assured results.

 

[slaters]

plenty of bodybuilders with sons
although its not as common

> Improve dimorphism
> Doesn't need facial bones

And to your question, no roids won't grow your fucking facial bones.

Dimorphim just refers to bones, height and anything associated with being a male.

I agree. Most people will never ascend due to laziness or bad brain structure.

That is da true Blackpill.

Another retard.

That "change" is caused by enlarged masseters and temporalis.

View attachment 3737414View attachment 3737418


Because it simply doesn't work like that normie.

You associate "heh testosterone " and "uh growth hormone " with anything manly.

@loyolaxavvierretard @Zagro

Neck
Eyebrows
Height
Frame
Wide mouth
80% of dimorphism

 

[charliewillascend]

There are other pathways apart from AR and HGH/IGF-1 like anything in the TGF superfamily, ß-catenin and BMP.

After puberty I simply wouldn't count on pharmacological intervention to change the facial structure.

You are better off just getting the osteotomies and implants you need for predictable and assured results.

well yes,
Surgery will always come out on top as you can actually predict and control what changes, and results will be very limited from roiding after your 20s or so,
But results during puberty from what I’ve seen are amazing.

sorry I called you retard you are a good user.

 

[cosmo]

> Improve dimorphism
> Doesn't need facial bones

And to your question, no roids won't grow your fucking facial bones.

Dimorphim just refers to bones, height and anything associated with being a male.


Sorry I must have been misunderstanding dimorphism, I thought facial hair and just looking older in general would fall under dimorphism, what I’m trying to say is my fave bones are fine, my height is fine, I was just wondering if test or proviron would make me look more like a man face wise.

 

[kwjqxlw99]

> Improve dimorphism
> Doesn't need facial bones

And to your question, no roids won't grow your fucking facial bones.

Dimorphim just refers to bones, height and anything associated with being a male.

I agree. Most people will never ascend due to laziness or bad brain structure.

That is da true Blackpill.

Another retard.

That "change" is caused by enlarged masseters and temporalis.

View attachment 3737414View attachment 3737418


Because it simply doesn't work like that normie.

You associate "heh testosterone " and "uh growth hormone " with anything manly.

@loyolaxavvierretard @Zagro

You are an idiot if you think that is only just muscle. Look at the size of his head now and when he was in his mid 20s

It wasnt worth it, my lipids are crashed and I have to go to the doctor monthly know to check my bloods, some relatives had heart disease anyway and I catalysed everything faster

also my roids were counterfeit and had some awkward components, made my hairline recess even though I'm nuking DHT

also atherosclerosis speeded up, I got plaque build up now

thats it, do whatever the fuck you want I'm just telling you I wont run another cycle

So you took counterfeit garbage, responded horribly to it and this is how you cope now? It's funny how you are here pretending to be an expert on the topic when you are a child who took counterfeit shit

 

[mattmogstomumbai]

U

There are other pathways apart from AR and HGH/IGF-1 like anything in the TGF superfamily, ß-catenin and BMP.

After puberty I simply wouldn't count on pharmacological intervention to change the facial structure.

You are better off just getting the osteotomies and implants you need for predictable and assured results.

Ur a true retard
Tren doubles igf_1 sens

So taking test and tren and something like lantus 30iu
Would get u at 600igf_1 for most ppl + the tren igf_1 so ur sitting at Abt 950_1200ng igf_1

Keep gatekeeping Jewish fuck
And also yes after puberty ur bones won't change prob we are talking abt anything less than Abt 20y/o for good results
Aren't u also on roids and mad that u didn't get much


Tren stimulates these pathways faggot imma give u a study but I doubt u can read it (ik it's not on humans bc u will point that and give me some good cope)

I can literally give u 20 ppl whose face has completely changed from roiding

 

[Jonasㅤㅤ⠀]

Tren doubles igf_1 sens

No shit you utter subhuman moroccan faggot.

Also nice how you have an alt and claim to be the same person on both of your accounts.

And with your alt roider72.

Bones don't only fucking grow through the IGF-1 and WNT pathway fucking retard.

So taking test and tren and something like lantus 30iu
Would get u at 600igf_1 for most ppl + the tren igf_1 so ur sitting at Abt 950_1200ng igf_1

Is this 20/04/2008 (retarded IQcel) or why does he vent about insulin

Most likely considering the way he types.

I can literally give u 20 ppl whose face has completely changed from roiding

Yes saar please name all the course sellers for me!

@chadisbeingmade 20/04/2008 alts @Zagro @loyolaxavvierretard @menas @itzyaboyJJ

 

[mattmogstomumbai]

No shit you utter subhuman moroccan faggot.

Also nice how you have an alt and claim to be the same person on both of your accounts.

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And with your alt roider72.

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Bones don't only fucking grow through the IGF-1 and WNT pathway fucking retard.

Is this 20/04/2008 (retarded IQcel) or why does he vent about insulin

Most likely considering the way he types.

Yes saar please name all the course sellers for me!

@chadisbeingmade 20/04/2008 alts @Zagro @loyolaxavvierretard @menas @itzyaboyJJ

Diff person retard roider is not me fuck urself
Show ur giga ltn self plz

 

[mattmogstomumbai]

No shit you utter subhuman moroccan faggot.

Also nice how you have an alt and claim to be the same person on both of your accounts.

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And with your alt roider72.

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Bones don't only fucking grow through the IGF-1 and WNT pathway fucking retard.

Is this 20/04/2008 (retarded IQcel) or why does he vent about insulin

Most likely considering the way he types.

Yes saar please name all the course sellers for me!

@chadisbeingmade 20/04/2008 alts @Zagro @loyolaxavvierretard @menas @itzyaboyJJ

Nah gymcells retard not course seller iam not as stupid as u


Can't u talk with some science Instead of having no life and going into my acc every sec

Yes iam roider 72 and 20/04/2008 alt
Go fuck urself ur stupid asf
U can't reply to the study,can u?

 

[mattmogstomumbai]

No shit you utter subhuman moroccan faggot.

Also nice how you have an alt and claim to be the same person on both of your accounts.

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And with your alt roider72.

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Bones don't only fucking grow through the IGF-1 and WNT pathway fucking retard.

Is this 20/04/2008 (retarded IQcel) or why does he vent about insulin

Most likely considering the way he types.

Yes saar please name all the course sellers for me!

@chadisbeingmade 20/04/2008 alts @Zagro @loyolaxavvierretard @menas @itzyaboyJJ

Iam not on roids yet ur stupid asf fr
Roider posted his front we are clearly diff persons
Ur retarded to a point u can't see the difference between ppl
That's why u say that roids doesn't change ur face
U think it has to make a mtn be a chad
To be working

I am not even Moroccan but wtv

 

[Jonasㅤㅤ⠀]

Iam not on roids yet ur stupid asf fr

Yet you talk so proudly about your stack all the time

Roider posted his front we are clearly diff persons

Can't differentiate between desert monkeys

Both subhuman

I am not even Moroccan but wtv

Yeah right you just both type in arabic

@chadisbeingmade @truthhurts @Bitterschön @org3cel.RR @MyDreamIsToBe183CM gtfih cagefuel

 

[mightbeover]

Health

many people on this website dont wanna live long so instead of roping immediately atleast they are huge

 

[TitusA]

could be one of the best reality checks threads i've read OP, if there was a repost button style wise like on tiktok for here would have reposted it 1000 times

it's just cagefuel seeing people under 18 wanting to do crazy roids when they're not even yet developping, do they think their life end at 20 or 21? wtf jfl

i was also victim of this when i was 15 and on this website, wanting to roid that early, i am so glad that i didn't have the money to go thru that early

most users here would literally have their "dream physique" or a "looksmaxxed physique" by 1 year going natty, and ACTUALLY BE CONSISTENT as in good sleep diet training, but you know what's funny when i tell them this? they tlel me "nooo bro i don't wnat my face to be puffy because of bulking so i'll do it" (fucking retards JFL)

the problem with these fellas that want to roid is just that they're just lazy asf and want an easy solution to not being consistent in something as important as the gym, it's cagefuel that their gains will all go away once they get off because they'ill stop going or stop being consistent

the thing you said on time and effort is the most spot on, niggas here will take months just to buy Retin-A and start a skincare after years of being on .org (i'm being dead ass serious) and daydream by making their future "plans" for roiding and stuff while they can't even be consistent in the gym for a few weeks, oh yeah, let me add on that they probably have extreme shit form in the gym most likely and their brain isn't used to the training part, nor the diet part most likely, and they wanna hop on, just cage


for the health and looks part of your thread, it's funny because all users here (and even i fall to it bc of human nature sometimes, but not as much as others since i became self aware of it) is that niggas here think they're super special and the expection, they tend to overestimate how "rare" they are and just assume
"yeah bro i won't bald anyway or have health issues i've seen others that didn't so i must be one of the good ones"
then we know how that ends

good thread and tldr for my post: listen to op, just natty lift, only do roiding after you're actually used to the gym, bulking, cutting, the actual basics, and after 18 (should be 20-21 imo)

it's like the equivalent of learning just how to throw a jab and u think u have what it got to fight with young mike tyson because ur "special"

I started gym at 14 for rugby and started roids at 20 fyi. Also dont recommend anybody starts roids at 14.

I think you underestimate how much damage is done with the high cocktail of high doses of roids + hgh + stimulants to burn fat + constant excessive food intake to support a 300 pound body in + 2 decades of thise abuse.

A couple of blasts in a persons early 20s wont do shit (always outliers like people who are prone to high cholesterol etc of course) especially when you compare it to the normie lifestyle of snorting coke on the weekend, eating garbage and drinking multiple times a week.

 

[itadakimas]

@Clavicular Humble him

 

[actualunderstander]

Well I completely agree nobody should roid unless they play a professional sport or are actors, and that its bad for you and i would never recommend it, I have personally seen peoples facial structure change from roids over a peroid of time, even if they are past the age of 14/15. Ive seen 19 year olds change their face. You can see it in actors who roid alot. All of a sudden they look like john cena.

 

[alriodai]

I started gym at 14 for rugby and started roids at 20 fyi. Also dont recommend anybody starts roids at 14.

I think you underestimate how much damage is done with the high cocktail of high doses of roids + hgh + stimulants to burn fat + constant excessive food intake to support a 300 pound body in + 2 decades of thise abuse.

A couple of blasts in a persons early 20s wont do shit (always outliers like people who are prone to high cholesterol etc of course) especially when you compare it to the normie lifestyle of snorting coke on the weekend, eating garbage and drinking multiple times a week.

Yeah bro but you're an outlier, considering you were active and an athlete in your teens and even early 20s
We're talking about people here who rarely trained, can't keep anything consistent, have other mental problems that won't let them focus on diet, several factors to put in place, you were already active, knew what to do and did it at a good age considering your past

 

[TitusA]

Yeah bro but you're an outlier, considering you were active and an athlete in your teens and even early 20s
We're talking about people here who rarely trained, can't keep anything consistent, have other mental problems that won't let them focus on diet, several factors to put in place, you were already active, knew what to do and did it at a good age considering your past

Well yh ofc if ur taking roids u need to live the required lifestyle with it. You also need some what of a base for them to even benefit u they wont turn some recessed, deformed incel into a slayer.

 

[alriodai]

Well yh ofc if ur taking roids u need to live the required lifestyle with it. You also need some what of a base for them to even benefit u they wont turn some recessed, deformed incel into a slayer.

Yeah and now imagine that most of the people that wanna roid here or roid don't even have the base
I mean for fuck's sake, there's a retard here that took a pro hormone (who he thought was a SARM) after like 2 weeks of gymcelling after "not seeing results", just for him to lose all his results on that after taking the prohormone because he stopped being consistent (imagine the shock)

 

[TitusA]

Well yh ofc if ur taking roids u need to live the required lifestyle with it. You also need some what of a base for them to even benefit u they wont turn some recessed, deformed incel into a slayer.

Well they are stupid. I read up on roids for probs 100 hours online before I took the plunge (not watching youtube bs actual reading). Now theirs more info on how to be healthy since they became more mainstream I would of read for longer thn that.

People just want an easy route and see them as one. They aren't and will backfire on allot of the the people using them wrong. Probs just leaving them bald, depressed and with health issues.

 

[Jonasㅤㅤ⠀]

Yeah and now imagine that most of the people that wanna roid here or roid don't even have the base
I mean for fuck's sake, there's a retard here that took a pro hormone (who he thought was a SARM) after like 2 weeks of gymcelling after "not seeing results", just for him to lose all his results on that after taking the prohormone because he stopped being consistent (imagine the shock)

Well they are stupid. I read up on roids for probs 100 hours online before I took the plunge (not watching youtube bs actual reading). Now theirs more info on how to be healthy since they became more mainstream I would of read for longer thn that.

People just want an easy route and see them as one. They aren't and will backfire on allot of the the people using them wrong. Probs just leaving them bald, depressed and with health issues.

Especially considering most people here don't even know how to roid correctly. It has always been the standard "500 test + AI", people aren't even considering checking for tolerability on a TRT dosage first.

Also anyone taking roids will have to use a 5ARI at one point, there is still a lot of people thinking DHT is beneficial.

@chadisbeingmade

 

[chadisbeingmade]

Also anyone taking roids will have to use a 5ARI at one point, there is still a lot of people thinking DHT is beneficial.

Anyone who roids without a 5ARi will only descend from roids, there will be no ascension.

 

[TitusA]

Especially considering most people here don't even know how to roid correctly. It has always been the standard "500 test + AI", people aren't even considering checking for tolerability on a TRT dosage first.

Also anyone taking roids will have to use a 5ARI at one point, there is still a lot of people thinking DHT is beneficial.

@chadisbeingmade

Anybody wanting to use roids should use one unless they wanna use tren or nandrolone which no need if not bber.