If you are thinking about roiding read this thread.

[SlayerJonas]

honestly roids won't magically add 2 psl points like some people think but you can definitely use them to your advantage.

Roids can't change your facial structure that's genetic, but what roids can do in my opinion is amplify your structure and features, so I wouldn't really recommend someone with a bad starting point hop on roids right away before addressing basic stuff and trying basic softmaxx.

> Says roids don't change your facial structure
> Proceeds to say the opposite

Someone having a good bone structure in the first place doesn't indicate he will be able to amplify it with androgens, you could say the exact same about people with bad bone structures.

Your argument is flawed fundamentally.

How do you know if you are

Most people aren't, hyperresponders make up a really small fraction of the population.

Most "hyperresponders" are blessed with myostatin deficiencies during prenatal development causing excess muscle hyperplasia to begin with, you would notice if you had that.

what about peptides?

Peptides are a big category, obviously there are good and bad ones.

Roiding should only be done for the body halo.

 

[amir_syr]

> Says roids don't change your facial structure
> Proceeds to say the opposite

Someone having a good bone structure in the first place doesn't indicate he will be able to amplify it with androgens, you could say the exact same about people with bad bone structures.

Your argument is flawed fundamentally.

Most people aren't, hyperresponders make up a really small fraction of the population.

Most "hyperresponders" are blessed with myostatin deficiencies during prenatal development causing excess muscle hyperplasia to begin with, you would notice if you had that.

Peptides are a big category, obviously there are good and bad ones.

Roiding should only be done for the body halo.

I meant amplify as in grow the natural base structure but I do get what you mean, I think at least a trt dose would be good for people instead of having unstable natty test levels.

But wouldn't a person with an already good facial structure respond better? Correct me if I'm wrong but if he already has pretty good growth from his natural hormonal profile I'm pretty sure a boost would amplify (even at a very low extent) his facial Bone growth if he has any left? Not tryna argue just learn

 

[zenox]

Idk it

> Says roids don't change your facial structure
> Proceeds to say the opposite

Someone having a good bone structure in the first place doesn't indicate he will be able to amplify it with androgens, you could say the exact same about people with bad bone structures.

Your argument is flawed fundamentally.

Most people aren't, hyperresponders make up a really small fraction of the population.

Most "hyperresponders" are blessed with myostatin deficiencies during prenatal development causing excess muscle hyperplasia to begin with, you would notice if you had that.

Peptides are a big category, obviously there are good and bad ones.

Roiding should only be done for the body halo.

Idk it’s just that like I feel like I can gain and lose weight really easily and then shit in my body changes really quick I can’t explain it

 

[incliner]

okay but do

> Says roids don't change your facial structure
> Proceeds to say the opposite

Someone having a good bone structure in the first place doesn't indicate he will be able to amplify it with androgens, you could say the exact same about people with bad bone structures.

Your argument is flawed fundamentally.

Most people aren't, hyperresponders make up a really small fraction of the population.

Most "hyperresponders" are blessed with myostatin deficiencies during prenatal development causing excess muscle hyperplasia to begin with, you would notice if you had that.

Peptides are a big category, obviously there are good and bad ones.

Roiding should only be done for the body halo.

okay but does your statement about only having a daughter involve taking peptides too OR NO?

 

[Deleted member 112562]

This is a continuation of my last thread regarding roids.

Bonesmashing doesn't work. Roiding doesn't change the facial structure.

Nobody had results with it, Loox doesn't count because he had other procedures done. Show me only one before and after of bonesmashing changing the face. I'm not saying it doesn't work because nobody had results with it, they don't work because the concept itself of "growing" the bone is flawed...

looksmax.org

Average thread nowadays:

View attachment 3658849

---

I'm seeing more and more users on here that want to roid for the purpose of enhancing their facial bones.

For most people that wouldn't even work, especially for the ones after 14/15.

The body has its own regulatory mechanisms that prevent any supraphysiological growth, even @Seth Walsh talked about that years ago. IGF-1's binding proteins prevent any excess growth for example.

There also isn't a single case where roiding really improved the facial bones, if IFBB pros that use grams of gear don't experience any facial bone growth do you think some beginner cycle could result in that?

Also no, it isn't worth a try. It is absolutely retarded to roid as you are exchanging your health, looks, money, time and effort for almost no ROI.

I'll explain each real risk below:

1. Health.​

Especially oral roids completely nuke your lipids and cardiovascular health, if you have any health condition you are fucked.

Also people on roids are only able to have daughters, give up your dream to raise a son already. You'll only have a daughter you'll feed and raise for 16 years, until she gets gangbanged by low iq subhumans.

There are tons of other side effects I won't even list, just look at the global causes of death and now multiply your chances of getting each single one of them by 100.

2. Looks.​

If you aren't using tons of ancillaries to prevent any side effects, which can also become costly fast, you fuck your looks too.

If you believe that hair is life, you should stay the fuck away from roids. No, if you are anything above NW1 Finasteride and Dutasteride won't be enough to save you afterwards. Roiding will accelerate your hair loss by a lot.

Not even speaking of the sides of inhibiting 5AR, your mental drive, penis development, erections and other physiological processes will be reduced or stunted. If you want to use 5ARIs later in life sure, but you really want to start using them that early?

3. Money.​

Most users don't have any money to spend in the first place, you'd need to invest atleast 200-300 bucks for a good cycle. Also coming off is pretty hard, you'd have to titrate dosages down for a few months depending on the compounds used, run a full PCT which has a lot of side effects too and pray your HPTA-Axis comes back to baseline.

Also the blood tests you have to do before, during and after a cycle can cost a lot too. Good luck financing that and explaining to your parents why you want to check your bloods every few months. The average cost of these blood tests can vary between 100-300$+ depending on what you want to check.

4. Time.​

Good luck trying to source everything in the first place and paying online with crypto, gymcelling 6+ times a week and researching the compounds you need to use. Spoiler: Most things you hear about roids are straight up wrong. If you aren't willing to research countless hours before injecting hormones into your body don't even think about starting.

Also better find a hiding spot for your roids, regarding the peptides you'd have to cool them in your fridge.

5. Effort.​

If you aren't planning to completely lock in with your diet and training don't go on this website at this point, most of these kids that want to start roids aren't even lean in the first place.

Good luck eating low calories sometimes, going to the gym 6 times a week even if you don't have the time, doing hard workouts and getting the work done for years. There is a reason why most gymcels on roids look like shit.

---

Now you maybe asking yourself "Then what should I do instead?"

Train natty for a year and you don't have to worry about all this shit. After that year of training and lean bulking, just shred down to 8-10% bodyfat and you are pretty much "looksmaxxed". If you don't even want to do that, seriously don't think about roids.

Stop overcomplicating things, literally just get lean. It's one of the only things that actually make a difference.

Regarding facial bones the answer is simple: Just get either implants or osteotomies depending on your case.

---

Spoiler: TL;DR

Read the thread faggot, you don't get high effort threads every day on here.
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@chadisbeingmade @wishIwasSalludon @JohnBaza @PsychoH @menas

I want to use HGH though.
I am currently 16 but I'd say my bones and shit are like if I'd be just 14.

I'm short and I want to use HGH to grow and get some forward growth aswell maybe.

Do you think it's worth it?

 

[realshit]

Also people on roids are only able to have daughters, give up your dream to raise a son already. You'll only have a daughter you'll feed and raise for 16 years, until she gets gangbanged by low iq subhumans.

nothing to prove it, you're just talking nonsense

 

[Polish Chincel]

Yeah he is gatekeeping

Roiding at puberty will make you a chad, it will
1. Masculinize you face (bigger chin, bigger cheekbones)
2. You brain will be masculinized (coinfidence boost, etc... FOREVER)
3. Body halo

holy cope I took hgh for a long time before even puberty and it didnt change much

 

[InanimatePragmatist]

This is a continuation of my last thread regarding roids.

Bonesmashing doesn't work. Roiding doesn't change the facial structure.

Nobody had results with it, Loox doesn't count because he had other procedures done. Show me only one before and after of bonesmashing changing the face. I'm not saying it doesn't work because nobody had results with it, they don't work because the concept itself of "growing" the bone is flawed...

looksmax.org

Average thread nowadays:

View attachment 3658849

---

I'm seeing more and more users on here that want to roid for the purpose of enhancing their facial bones.

For most people that wouldn't even work, especially for the ones after 14/15.

The body has its own regulatory mechanisms that prevent any supraphysiological growth, even @Seth Walsh talked about that years ago. IGF-1's binding proteins prevent any excess growth for example.

There also isn't a single case where roiding really improved the facial bones, if IFBB pros that use grams of gear don't experience any facial bone growth do you think some beginner cycle could result in that?

Also no, it isn't worth a try. It is absolutely retarded to roid as you are exchanging your health, looks, money, time and effort for almost no ROI.

I'll explain each real risk below:

1. Health.​

Especially oral roids completely nuke your lipids and cardiovascular health, if you have any health condition you are fucked.

Also people on roids are only able to have daughters, give up your dream to raise a son already. You'll only have a daughter you'll feed and raise for 16 years, until she gets gangbanged by low iq subhumans.

There are tons of other side effects I won't even list, just look at the global causes of death and now multiply your chances of getting each single one of them by 100.

2. Looks.​

If you aren't using tons of ancillaries to prevent any side effects, which can also become costly fast, you fuck your looks too.

If you believe that hair is life, you should stay the fuck away from roids. No, if you are anything above NW1 Finasteride and Dutasteride won't be enough to save you afterwards. Roiding will accelerate your hair loss by a lot.

Not even speaking of the sides of inhibiting 5AR, your mental drive, penis development, erections and other physiological processes will be reduced or stunted. If you want to use 5ARIs later in life sure, but you really want to start using them that early?

3. Money.​

Most users don't have any money to spend in the first place, you'd need to invest atleast 200-300 bucks for a good cycle. Also coming off is pretty hard, you'd have to titrate dosages down for a few months depending on the compounds used, run a full PCT which has a lot of side effects too and pray your HPTA-Axis comes back to baseline.

Also the blood tests you have to do before, during and after a cycle can cost a lot too. Good luck financing that and explaining to your parents why you want to check your bloods every few months. The average cost of these blood tests can vary between 100-300$+ depending on what you want to check.

4. Time.​

Good luck trying to source everything in the first place and paying online with crypto, gymcelling 6+ times a week and researching the compounds you need to use. Spoiler: Most things you hear about roids are straight up wrong. If you aren't willing to research countless hours before injecting hormones into your body don't even think about starting.

Also better find a hiding spot for your roids, regarding the peptides you'd have to cool them in your fridge.

5. Effort.​

If you aren't planning to completely lock in with your diet and training don't go on this website at this point, most of these kids that want to start roids aren't even lean in the first place.

Good luck eating low calories sometimes, going to the gym 6 times a week even if you don't have the time, doing hard workouts and getting the work done for years. There is a reason why most gymcels on roids look like shit.

---

Now you maybe asking yourself "Then what should I do instead?"

Train natty for a year and you don't have to worry about all this shit. After that year of training and lean bulking, just shred down to 8-10% bodyfat and you are pretty much "looksmaxxed". If you don't even want to do that, seriously don't think about roids.

Stop overcomplicating things, literally just get lean. It's one of the only things that actually make a difference.

Regarding facial bones the answer is simple: Just get either implants or osteotomies depending on your case.

---

Spoiler: TL;DR

Read the thread faggot, you don't get high effort threads every day on here.
View attachment 3658968

@chadisbeingmade @wishIwasSalludon @JohnBaza @PsychoH @menas

Let the Humanimals argue amongst themselves. It is just natural selection if someone decides to roid up.

 

[InanimatePragmatist]

holy cope I took hgh for a long time before even puberty and it didnt change much

I have known people who had hormonal issues and had to take extra test growing up. They are far from chads.

 

[SlayerJonas]

Let the Humanimals argue amongst themselves. It is just natural selection if someone decides to roid up.

I'm contra-roiding for the general population since most will do more harm than good. There are so many variables and obstacles you have to keep in mind.

The kids on here project all their wishes regarding looks to be fullfilled with exogenous hormones, which isn't possible speaking of facial bones and height.

Roiding in the first place should only be done for the body halo if in full control, it boosts the SMV undeniably but it won't just ascend someone one full looks category.

 

[InanimatePragmatist]

I'm contra-roiding for the general population since most will do more harm than good. There are so many variables and obstacles you have to keep in mind.

The kids on here project all their wishes regarding looks to be fullfilled with exogenous hormones, which isn't possible speaking of facial bones and height.

Roiding in the first place should only be done for the body halo if in full control, it boosts the SMV undeniably but it won't just ascend someone one full looks category.

I will take your word on this. You seem more credible than the rest of the roid users here.

 

[realguyJay]

True what? That we are killing babies for no reason? No we aren’t. Unlike hamas we are giving Gaza a warning to evacuate before we’re launching missles to destroy HAMAS not THE INNOCENT PEOPLE IN GAZA BUT THE HAMAS. And he didn’t mentioned Hamas exploiting us beacuse we are kind hearted and caring people so Hamas is taking advantage of that and running there bunkers under hospitals so we won’t bomb it. Wow I can keep all day

Kill yourself ngl

 

[Deleted member 110192]

Kill yourself ngl

Why exactly?

 

[realguyJay]

Shit thread, total fucking dogshit

And also IGFBP are a good thing and it what makes the IGF-1 have an extended half-life, circulate, and affect bone and muscle.

Also people on roids are not cursed to have daughters for the rest of their life idk where you got this from, why is this shit low iq monkey thread fucking pinned, what soy fucktard cuck fucking pinned this shit

sHBG + inflamed all the time from roids kills male sperm and female sperm survive better in this environment

 

[Newday*V3]

sHBG + inflamed all the time from roids kills male sperm and female sperm survive better in this environment

"male sperm" "female sperm"

 

[realguyJay]

"male sperm" "female sperm"

Put it like that since you sounded retarded so i made it easier for you to understand

 

[Gafix]

View attachment 3659041

labubu

 

[RealFunkyFlamingo]

This is a continuation of my last thread regarding roids.

Bonesmashing doesn't work. Roiding doesn't change the facial structure.

Nobody had results with it, Loox doesn't count because he had other procedures done. Show me only one before and after of bonesmashing changing the face. I'm not saying it doesn't work because nobody had results with it, they don't work because the concept itself of "growing" the bone is flawed...

looksmax.org

Average thread nowadays:

View attachment 3658849

---

I'm seeing more and more users on here that want to roid for the purpose of enhancing their facial bones.

For most people that wouldn't even work, especially for the ones after 14/15.

The body has its own regulatory mechanisms that prevent any supraphysiological growth, even @Seth Walsh talked about that years ago. IGF-1's binding proteins prevent any excess growth for example.

There also isn't a single case where roiding really improved the facial bones, if IFBB pros that use grams of gear don't experience any facial bone growth do you think some beginner cycle could result in that?

Also no, it isn't worth a try. It is absolutely retarded to roid as you are exchanging your health, looks, money, time and effort for almost no ROI.

I'll explain each real risk below:

1. Health.​

Especially oral roids completely nuke your lipids and cardiovascular health, if you have any health condition you are fucked.

Also people on roids are only able to have daughters, give up your dream to raise a son already. You'll only have a daughter you'll feed and raise for 16 years, until she gets gangbanged by low iq subhumans.

There are tons of other side effects I won't even list, just look at the global causes of death and now multiply your chances of getting each single one of them by 100.

2. Looks.​

If you aren't using tons of ancillaries to prevent any side effects, which can also become costly fast, you fuck your looks too.

If you believe that hair is life, you should stay the fuck away from roids. No, if you are anything above NW1 Finasteride and Dutasteride won't be enough to save you afterwards. Roiding will accelerate your hair loss by a lot.

Not even speaking of the sides of inhibiting 5AR, your mental drive, penis development, erections and other physiological processes will be reduced or stunted. If you want to use 5ARIs later in life sure, but you really want to start using them that early?

3. Money.​

Most users don't have any money to spend in the first place, you'd need to invest atleast 200-300 bucks for a good cycle. Also coming off is pretty hard, you'd have to titrate dosages down for a few months depending on the compounds used, run a full PCT which has a lot of side effects too and pray your HPTA-Axis comes back to baseline.

Also the blood tests you have to do before, during and after a cycle can cost a lot too. Good luck financing that and explaining to your parents why you want to check your bloods every few months. The average cost of these blood tests can vary between 100-300$+ depending on what you want to check.

4. Time.​

Good luck trying to source everything in the first place and paying online with crypto, gymcelling 6+ times a week and researching the compounds you need to use. Spoiler: Most things you hear about roids are straight up wrong. If you aren't willing to research countless hours before injecting hormones into your body don't even think about starting.

Also better find a hiding spot for your roids, regarding the peptides you'd have to cool them in your fridge.

5. Effort.​

If you aren't planning to completely lock in with your diet and training don't go on this website at this point, most of these kids that want to start roids aren't even lean in the first place.

Good luck eating low calories sometimes, going to the gym 6 times a week even if you don't have the time, doing hard workouts and getting the work done for years. There is a reason why most gymcels on roids look like shit.

---

Now you maybe asking yourself "Then what should I do instead?"

Train natty for a year and you don't have to worry about all this shit. After that year of training and lean bulking, just shred down to 8-10% bodyfat and you are pretty much "looksmaxxed". If you don't even want to do that, seriously don't think about roids.

Stop overcomplicating things, literally just get lean. It's one of the only things that actually make a difference.

Regarding facial bones the answer is simple: Just get either implants or osteotomies depending on your case.

---

Spoiler: TL;DR

Read the thread faggot, you don't get high effort threads every day on here.
View attachment 3658968

@chadisbeingmade @wishIwasSalludon @JohnBaza @PsychoH @menas

Bookmarked

 

[heterochromia]

who cares about being tall anymore, im saying facewise, his eyebrows got mega low set and big ass jaw

can you tag me in the thread vro

 

[Aurelius74]

Why are @SlayerJonas & @chadisbeingmade against roids ?... Yeah roids are cope if you are doing it for bone growth but if someone is doing it to get descent frame & keep some muscle mass at low body fat percentage, than is it still a cope ?...
Kindly answer bhai @Aryan Incel

 

[Aryan Incel]

Why are @SlayerJonas & @chadisbeingmade against roids ?... Yeah roids are cope if you are doing it for bone growth but if someone is doing it to get descent frame & keep some muscle mass at low body fat percentage, than is it still a cope ?...
Kindly answer bhai @Aryan Incel

Body halo

 

[manuel355335]

For most people that wouldn't even work, especially for the ones after 14/15.

So it works at that age??

 

[Eren]

Why are @SlayerJonas & @chadisbeingmade against roids ?... Yeah roids are cope if you are doing it for bone growth but if someone is doing it to get descent frame & keep some muscle mass at low body fat percentage, than is it still a cope ?...
Kindly answer bhai @Aryan Incel

gatekeeping that's all

if you ever went to a gym you would isntantly see that you can't compete with anyone taking roids unless they are the subhumanest of subhumans
you will never be big and lean natty
you will always look like shit unless you are htn (10% of the population btw), 6ft+ with god frame
you will have to force feed yourself and pray you can gain 500g of muscle
you will never have JBs flocking around you at the gym each time you go in
you will never have people mirin you as soon as you enter in the gym

maybe you will get a sastisfying physique in 15 years at 35 if you never have a cheat meal ever again, only carrot cake like jeff cavaliere (who is probably on something too)

the only guy that looks very good natty is chris heria , good luck training 6 hours a day with a fucjing job in between + he still looks dyel in clothes

 

[pleas let me in]

This is a continuation of my last thread regarding roids.

Bonesmashing doesn't work. Roiding doesn't change the facial structure.

Nobody had results with it, Loox doesn't count because he had other procedures done. Show me only one before and after of bonesmashing changing the face. I'm not saying it doesn't work because nobody had results with it, they don't work because the concept itself of "growing" the bone is flawed...

looksmax.org

Average thread nowadays:

View attachment 3658849

---

I'm seeing more and more users on here that want to roid for the purpose of enhancing their facial bones.

For most people that wouldn't even work, especially for the ones after 14/15.

The body has its own regulatory mechanisms that prevent any supraphysiological growth, even @Seth Walsh talked about that years ago. IGF-1's binding proteins prevent any excess growth for example.

There also isn't a single case where roiding really improved the facial bones, if IFBB pros that use grams of gear don't experience any facial bone growth do you think some beginner cycle could result in that?

Also no, it isn't worth a try. It is absolutely retarded to roid as you are exchanging your health, looks, money, time and effort for almost no ROI.

I'll explain each real risk below:

1. Health.​

Especially oral roids completely nuke your lipids and cardiovascular health, if you have any health condition you are fucked.

Also people on roids are only able to have daughters, give up your dream to raise a son already. You'll only have a daughter you'll feed and raise for 16 years, until she gets gangbanged by low iq subhumans.

There are tons of other side effects I won't even list, just look at the global causes of death and now multiply your chances of getting each single one of them by 100.

2. Looks.​

If you aren't using tons of ancillaries to prevent any side effects, which can also become costly fast, you fuck your looks too.

If you believe that hair is life, you should stay the fuck away from roids. No, if you are anything above NW1 Finasteride and Dutasteride won't be enough to save you afterwards. Roiding will accelerate your hair loss by a lot.

Not even speaking of the sides of inhibiting 5AR, your mental drive, penis development, erections and other physiological processes will be reduced or stunted. If you want to use 5ARIs later in life sure, but you really want to start using them that early?

3. Money.​

Most users don't have any money to spend in the first place, you'd need to invest atleast 200-300 bucks for a good cycle. Also coming off is pretty hard, you'd have to titrate dosages down for a few months depending on the compounds used, run a full PCT which has a lot of side effects too and pray your HPTA-Axis comes back to baseline.

Also the blood tests you have to do before, during and after a cycle can cost a lot too. Good luck financing that and explaining to your parents why you want to check your bloods every few months. The average cost of these blood tests can vary between 100-300$+ depending on what you want to check.

4. Time.​

Good luck trying to source everything in the first place and paying online with crypto, gymcelling 6+ times a week and researching the compounds you need to use. Spoiler: Most things you hear about roids are straight up wrong. If you aren't willing to research countless hours before injecting hormones into your body don't even think about starting.

Also better find a hiding spot for your roids, regarding the peptides you'd have to cool them in your fridge.

5. Effort.​

If you aren't planning to completely lock in with your diet and training don't go on this website at this point, most of these kids that want to start roids aren't even lean in the first place.

Good luck eating low calories sometimes, going to the gym 6 times a week even if you don't have the time, doing hard workouts and getting the work done for years. There is a reason why most gymcels on roids look like shit.

---

Now you maybe asking yourself "Then what should I do instead?"

Train natty for a year and you don't have to worry about all this shit. After that year of training and lean bulking, just shred down to 8-10% bodyfat and you are pretty much "looksmaxxed". If you don't even want to do that, seriously don't think about roids.

Stop overcomplicating things, literally just get lean. It's one of the only things that actually make a difference.

Regarding facial bones the answer is simple: Just get either implants or osteotomies depending on your case.

---

Spoiler: TL;DR

Read the thread faggot, you don't get high effort threads every day on here.
View attachment 3658968

@chadisbeingmade @wishIwasSalludon @JohnBaza @PsychoH @menas

i going to stop roid now thanks for the advice

 

[fataholic]

There also isn't a single case where roiding really improved the facial bones, if IFBB pros that use grams of gear don't experience any facial bone growth do you think some beginner cycle could result in that?

Orbitalgrowth on tiktok experienced facial growth from test + tren (and does bonesrr just not exist or wtf)

Lower lip to chin 13x33 pixels=35.5 pixel hypotenuse/distance
Upper lip to lower lip 10x21 pixels=23.2 pixel hypotenuse/distance
23.2:35.5 = 1.53 chin:lip ratio

Lower lip to chin 13x37 pixels=39.2 pixel hypotenuse/distance
Lip to chin 6x22 pixels=22.8 pixel hypotenuse/distance
22.8:39.2 = 1.71 chin:lip ratio

growth happens you fucking retard and he already went from 1.4 to 1.5 (1.4 not shown here) by using peptides bone growth happens nigger

 

[Aryan Incel]

Orbitalgrowth on tiktok experienced facial growth from test + tren (and does bonesrr just not exist or wtf)

Lower lip to chin 13x33 pixels=35.5 pixel hypotenuse/distance
Upper lip to lower lip 10x21 pixels=23.2 pixel hypotenuse/distance
23.2:35.5 = 1.53 chin:lip ratio
View attachment 4895167
Lower lip to chin 13x37 pixels=39.2 pixel hypotenuse/distance
Lip to chin 6x22 pixels=22.8 pixel hypotenuse/distance
22.8:39.2 = 1.71 chin:lip ratio
View attachment 4895168

growth happens you fucking retard and he already went from 1.4 to 1.5 (1.4 not shown here) by using peptides bone growth happens nigger

You realize the pics provided are at different angles + lens distortion you literally have a sub three digit iq if you actually believe roids will do anything for your bones

 

[EternalGreydom]

This is a continuation of my last thread regarding roids.

Bonesmashing doesn't work. Roiding doesn't change the facial structure.

Nobody had results with it, Loox doesn't count because he had other procedures done. Show me only one before and after of bonesmashing changing the face. I'm not saying it doesn't work because nobody had results with it, they don't work because the concept itself of "growing" the bone is flawed...

looksmax.org

Average thread nowadays:

View attachment 3658849

---

I'm seeing more and more users on here that want to roid for the purpose of enhancing their facial bones.

For most people that wouldn't even work, especially for the ones after 14/15.

The body has its own regulatory mechanisms that prevent any supraphysiological growth, even @Seth Walsh talked about that years ago. IGF-1's binding proteins prevent any excess growth for example.

There also isn't a single case where roiding really improved the facial bones, if IFBB pros that use grams of gear don't experience any facial bone growth do you think some beginner cycle could result in that?

Also no, it isn't worth a try. It is absolutely retarded to roid as you are exchanging your health, looks, money, time and effort for almost no ROI.

I'll explain each real risk below:

1. Health.​

Especially oral roids completely nuke your lipids and cardiovascular health, if you have any health condition you are fucked.

Also people on roids are only able to have daughters, give up your dream to raise a son already. You'll only have a daughter you'll feed and raise for 16 years, until she gets gangbanged by low iq subhumans.

There are tons of other side effects I won't even list, just look at the global causes of death and now multiply your chances of getting each single one of them by 100.

2. Looks.​

If you aren't using tons of ancillaries to prevent any side effects, which can also become costly fast, you fuck your looks too.

If you believe that hair is life, you should stay the fuck away from roids. No, if you are anything above NW1 Finasteride and Dutasteride won't be enough to save you afterwards. Roiding will accelerate your hair loss by a lot.

Not even speaking of the sides of inhibiting 5AR, your mental drive, penis development, erections and other physiological processes will be reduced or stunted. If you want to use 5ARIs later in life sure, but you really want to start using them that early?

3. Money.​

Most users don't have any money to spend in the first place, you'd need to invest atleast 200-300 bucks for a good cycle. Also coming off is pretty hard, you'd have to titrate dosages down for a few months depending on the compounds used, run a full PCT which has a lot of side effects too and pray your HPTA-Axis comes back to baseline.

Also the blood tests you have to do before, during and after a cycle can cost a lot too. Good luck financing that and explaining to your parents why you want to check your bloods every few months. The average cost of these blood tests can vary between 100-300$+ depending on what you want to check.

4. Time.​

Good luck trying to source everything in the first place and paying online with crypto, gymcelling 6+ times a week and researching the compounds you need to use. Spoiler: Most things you hear about roids are straight up wrong. If you aren't willing to research countless hours before injecting hormones into your body don't even think about starting.

Also better find a hiding spot for your roids, regarding the peptides you'd have to cool them in your fridge.

5. Effort.​

If you aren't planning to completely lock in with your diet and training don't go on this website at this point, most of these kids that want to start roids aren't even lean in the first place.

Good luck eating low calories sometimes, going to the gym 6 times a week even if you don't have the time, doing hard workouts and getting the work done for years. There is a reason why most gymcels on roids look like shit.

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Now you maybe asking yourself "Then what should I do instead?"

Train natty for a year and you don't have to worry about all this shit. After that year of training and lean bulking, just shred down to 8-10% bodyfat and you are pretty much "looksmaxxed". If you don't even want to do that, seriously don't think about roids.

Stop overcomplicating things, literally just get lean. It's one of the only things that actually make a difference.

Regarding facial bones the answer is simple: Just get either implants or osteotomies depending on your case.

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Spoiler: TL;DR

Read the thread faggot, you don't get high effort threads every day on here.
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@chadisbeingmade @wishIwasSalludon @JohnBaza @PsychoH @menas

I wish people knew this dude, I swear every new post is sum stuff about roids when what they want is bones it makes no sense, its like they do zero research and just do what random strangers tell them

 

[fataholic]

so does bonesrr just not exist then

You realize the pics provided are at different angles + lens distortion you literally have a sub three digit iq if you actually believe roids will do anything for your bones

 

[BronzeageMaxxing]

This is a continuation of my last thread regarding roids.

Bonesmashing doesn't work. Roiding doesn't change the facial structure.

Nobody had results with it, Loox doesn't count because he had other procedures done. Show me only one before and after of bonesmashing changing the face. I'm not saying it doesn't work because nobody had results with it, they don't work because the concept itself of "growing" the bone is flawed...

looksmax.org

Average thread nowadays:

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I'm seeing more and more users on here that want to roid for the purpose of enhancing their facial bones.

For most people that wouldn't even work, especially for the ones after 14/15.

The body has its own regulatory mechanisms that prevent any supraphysiological growth, even @Seth Walsh talked about that years ago. IGF-1's binding proteins prevent any excess growth for example.

There also isn't a single case where roiding really improved the facial bones, if IFBB pros that use grams of gear don't experience any facial bone growth do you think some beginner cycle could result in that?

Also no, it isn't worth a try. It is absolutely retarded to roid as you are exchanging your health, looks, money, time and effort for almost no ROI.

I'll explain each real risk below:

1. Health.​

Especially oral roids completely nuke your lipids and cardiovascular health, if you have any health condition you are fucked.

Also people on roids are only able to have daughters, give up your dream to raise a son already. You'll only have a daughter you'll feed and raise for 16 years, until she gets gangbanged by low iq subhumans.

There are tons of other side effects I won't even list, just look at the global causes of death and now multiply your chances of getting each single one of them by 100.

2. Looks.​

If you aren't using tons of ancillaries to prevent any side effects, which can also become costly fast, you fuck your looks too.

If you believe that hair is life, you should stay the fuck away from roids. No, if you are anything above NW1 Finasteride and Dutasteride won't be enough to save you afterwards. Roiding will accelerate your hair loss by a lot.

Not even speaking of the sides of inhibiting 5AR, your mental drive, penis development, erections and other physiological processes will be reduced or stunted. If you want to use 5ARIs later in life sure, but you really want to start using them that early?

3. Money.​

Most users don't have any money to spend in the first place, you'd need to invest atleast 200-300 bucks for a good cycle. Also coming off is pretty hard, you'd have to titrate dosages down for a few months depending on the compounds used, run a full PCT which has a lot of side effects too and pray your HPTA-Axis comes back to baseline.

Also the blood tests you have to do before, during and after a cycle can cost a lot too. Good luck financing that and explaining to your parents why you want to check your bloods every few months. The average cost of these blood tests can vary between 100-300$+ depending on what you want to check.

4. Time.​

Good luck trying to source everything in the first place and paying online with crypto, gymcelling 6+ times a week and researching the compounds you need to use. Spoiler: Most things you hear about roids are straight up wrong. If you aren't willing to research countless hours before injecting hormones into your body don't even think about starting.

Also better find a hiding spot for your roids, regarding the peptides you'd have to cool them in your fridge.

5. Effort.​

If you aren't planning to completely lock in with your diet and training don't go on this website at this point, most of these kids that want to start roids aren't even lean in the first place.

Good luck eating low calories sometimes, going to the gym 6 times a week even if you don't have the time, doing hard workouts and getting the work done for years. There is a reason why most gymcels on roids look like shit.

---

Now you maybe asking yourself "Then what should I do instead?"

Train natty for a year and you don't have to worry about all this shit. After that year of training and lean bulking, just shred down to 8-10% bodyfat and you are pretty much "looksmaxxed". If you don't even want to do that, seriously don't think about roids.

Stop overcomplicating things, literally just get lean. It's one of the only things that actually make a difference.

Regarding facial bones the answer is simple: Just get either implants or osteotomies depending on your case.

---

Spoiler: TL;DR

Read the thread faggot, you don't get high effort threads every day on here.
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@chadisbeingmade @wishIwasSalludon @JohnBaza @PsychoH @menas

JFL roiding will improve tf outta ur facial muscles frauding facial change so there is a noticable change

 

[GeneticsIsEverythin]

I mean if I was gonna rope I would just take cycle some crazy shit instead