If you are thinking about roiding read this thread.

[MyDreamIsToBe183CM]

Brutal tag him tbh

Nigga got cuckpilled by someone on here

I dont remember it was when I was a lowly greycel it was a long time ago

Blackpill got to me

 

[Jonasㅤㅤ⠀]

Your watching span or whatever it’s called won’t let you jfl. You simply wont make it to season 3. It’s boring asf without knowing the characters

Attention span I guess. But I also watch boring shows tbh, I dont mind

It's like I want to complete the show to 100%

 

[Zagro]

Attention span I guess. But I also watch boring shows tbh, I dont mind

It's like I want to complete the show to 100%

It’s really boring tho i couldn’t watch it

 

[Jonasㅤㅤ⠀]

I dont remember it was when I was a lowly greycel it was a long time ago

Blackpill got to me

Yeah I remember that time. How times changed innit

 

[Jonasㅤㅤ⠀]

It’s really boring tho i couldn’t watch it

You ever watched anime? I even watched those naruto filler episodes lol

 

[MyDreamIsToBe183CM]

I

Yeah I remember that time. How times changed innit

I remember I was a lowly bluecel asking you retarded lipolab questions and you crashed out on me

 

[Zagro]

You ever watched anime? I even watched those naruto filler episodes lol

Yeah i did watch naruto but not bcs bro that shit felt really boring when i could have watched other good shows.

 

[copercel123]

Attention span I guess. But I also watch boring shows tbh, I dont mind

It's like I want to complete the show to 100%

Yes but it’s still better to watch breaking bad before since after you watch it and then you watch better call Saul there are some egg easters and moments when your like “wow no way he’s acting like that he acted so different in breaking bad” you know

 

[Jonasㅤㅤ⠀]

I

I remember I was a lowly bluecel asking you retarded lipolab questions and you crashed out on me

I thought you were from some scandinavian country during that time lmao

 

[Jonasㅤㅤ⠀]

Yes but it’s still better to watch breaking bad before since after you watch it and then you watch better call Saul there are some egg easters and moments when your like “wow no way he’s acting like that he acted so different in breaking bad” you know

I get what you mean. I think better call saul was produced afterwards right? so makes sense

 

[Jonasㅤㅤ⠀]

I

I remember I was a lowly bluecel asking you retarded lipolab questions and you crashed out on me

Yeah i did watch naruto but not bcs bro that shit felt really boring when i could have watched other good shows.

Yes but it’s still better to watch breaking bad before since after you watch it and then you watch better call Saul there are some egg easters and moments when your like “wow no way he’s acting like that he acted so different in breaking bad” you know

Niggas

 

[copercel123]

I get what you mean. I think better call saul was produced afterwards right? so makes sense

Yes it was produced after wards but in the series it’s a few years back (before breaking bad)

 

[copercel123]

Niggas

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What does it mean sorry for the ignorance

 

[Jonasㅤㅤ⠀]

Yes it was produced after wards but in the series it’s a few years back (before breaking bad)

I got spoilered so often I fucking hate spoilers. On tiktok, in school, everywhere

I cant enjoy a show when I know what happens

 

[Jonasㅤㅤ⠀]

What does it mean sorry for the ignorance

Master viewed this thread. usually he doesn't even go on org and just looks at forum list.

 

[copercel123]

I got spoilered so often I fucking hate spoilers. On tiktok, in school, everywhere

I cant enjoy a show when I know what happens

FUCKING EXACTLY im 1000% agree with you bro. I think if I didn’t know what was going to happen In breaking bad I would’ve enjoyed it 10 times more

 

[copercel123]

Master viewed this thread. usually he doesn't even go on org and just looks at forum list.

Jfl

 

[Jonasㅤㅤ⠀]

FUCKING EXACTLY im 1000% agree with you bro. I think if I didn’t know what was going to happen In breaking bad I would’ve enjoyed it 10 times more

Finally someone that agrees. Most people dont care about spoilers and even want to get spoilered lol. Never understood that

 

[Zagro]

Finally someone that agrees. Most people dont care about spoilers and even want to get spoilered lol. Never understood that

Have you watched “you”?

 

[Jonasㅤㅤ⠀]

Have you watched “you”?

Havent heard of it. Is it new? I didnt watch anything for a year now, also mostly no games etc

 

[Zagro]

Havent heard of it. Is it new? I didnt watch anything for a year now, also mostly no games etc

I don’t think its that new. I just stopped playing games but i really like watching series and movies.

 

[Jonasㅤㅤ⠀]

I don’t think its that new. I just stopped playing games but i really like watching series and movies.

I only watched vampire diaries with a girl lol

Always seeing Damon / Ian Somerhalder is cool

 

[Zagro]

I only watched vampire diaries with a girl lol

Always seeing Damon / Ian Somerhalder is cool

I have a photo with ian

 

[Jonasㅤㅤ⠀]

I have a photo with ian

He's a far relative personally so I have multiple pictures with my boyo Ian

 

[Zagro]

He's a far relative personally so I have multiple pictures with my boyo Ian

I will meet lee priest, ronnie and samson soon There was some ifbb con or sum shit in Germany too. Have you ever been to shit like that?

 

[Jonasㅤㅤ⠀]

I will meet lee priest, ronnie and samson soon There was some ifbb con or sum shit in Germany too. Have you ever been to shit like that?

I wouldn't go tbh, too brutal physiquemog. Would only go with 10cm lifts and shoulder pads at this point.

@itzyaboyJJ reference

 

[Zagro]

I wouldn't go tbh, too brutal physiquemog. Would only go with 10cm lifts and shoulder pads at this point.

@itzyaboyJJ reference

Actually great idea might do that, not 10cm tho but you get it. The average person who goes is a bald roided man or some guy who occasionally goes to the gym.

Do you use lifts normally tho?

 

[Jonasㅤㅤ⠀]

Actually great idea might do that, not 10cm tho but you get it. The average person who goes is a bald roided man or some guy who occasionally goes to the gym.

Do you use lifts normally tho?

Nigga this convo is actually refreshing ngl. Yeah I've started using lifts one year ago, 2.5cm in reality most likely like 1.5cm due to compression. In combination with big shoes so like Nike TN or Airforce.

I try to be a really social person so I get invited to house parties every week, where I have to take my shoes off.. That's really shit because everyone notices that height fluctuation so started not wearing them, had been even wearing them to the gym atp lol

@tit height frauder gtfih

 

[wishIwasSalludon]

Hi bro

Tell me something about you

@wishIwasSalludon come in

Hello

 

[Zagro]

Hello

hi

 

[Jonasㅤㅤ⠀]

Hello

hi

hi

 

[org3cel.RR]

This is a continuation of my last thread regarding roids.

Bonesmashing doesn't work. Roiding doesn't change the facial structure.

Nobody had results with it, Loox doesn't count because he had other procedures done. Show me only one before and after of bonesmashing changing the face. I'm not saying it doesn't work because nobody had results with it, they don't work because the concept itself of "growing" the bone is flawed...

looksmax.org

Average thread nowadays:

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I'm seeing more and more users on here that want to roid for the purpose of enhancing their facial bones.

For most people that wouldn't even work, especially for the ones after 14/15.

The body has its own regulatory mechanisms that prevent any supraphysiological growth, even @Seth Walsh talked about that years ago. IGF-1's binding proteins prevent any excess growth for example.

There also isn't a single case where roiding really improved the facial bones, if IFBB pros that use grams of gear don't experience any facial bone growth do you think some beginner cycle could result in that?

Also no, it isn't worth a try. It is absolutely retarded to roid as you are exchanging your health, looks, money, time and effort for almost no ROI.

I'll explain each real risk below:

1. Health.​

Especially oral roids completely nuke your lipids and cardiovascular health, if you have any health condition you are fucked.

Also people on roids are only able to have daughters, give up your dream to raise a son already. You'll only have a daughter you'll feed and raise for 16 years, until she gets gangbanged by low iq subhumans.

There are tons of other side effects I won't even list, just look at the global causes of death and now multiply your chances of getting each single one of them by 100.

2. Looks.​

If you aren't using tons of ancillaries to prevent any side effects, which can also become costly fast, you fuck your looks too.

If you believe that hair is life, you should stay the fuck away from roids. No, if you are anything above NW1 Finasteride and Dutasteride won't be enough to save you afterwards. Roiding will accelerate your hair loss by a lot.

Not even speaking of the sides of inhibiting 5AR, your mental drive, penis development, erections and other physiological processes will be reduced or stunted. If you want to use 5ARIs later in life sure, but you really want to start using them that early?

3. Money.​

Most users don't have any money to spend in the first place, you'd need to invest atleast 200-300 bucks for a good cycle. Also coming off is pretty hard, you'd have to titrate dosages down for a few months depending on the compounds used, run a full PCT which has a lot of side effects too and pray your HPTA-Axis comes back to baseline.

Also the blood tests you have to do before, during and after a cycle can cost a lot too. Good luck financing that and explaining to your parents why you want to check your bloods every few months. The average cost of these blood tests can vary between 100-300$+ depending on what you want to check.

4. Time.​

Good luck trying to source everything in the first place and paying online with crypto, gymcelling 6+ times a week and researching the compounds you need to use. Spoiler: Most things you hear about roids are straight up wrong. If you aren't willing to research countless hours before injecting hormones into your body don't even think about starting.

Also better find a hiding spot for your roids, regarding the peptides you'd have to cool them in your fridge.

5. Effort.​

If you aren't planning to completely lock in with your diet and training don't go on this website at this point, most of these kids that want to start roids aren't even lean in the first place.

Good luck eating low calories sometimes, going to the gym 6 times a week even if you don't have the time, doing hard workouts and getting the work done for years. There is a reason why most gymcels on roids look like shit.

---

Now you maybe asking yourself "Then what should I do instead?"

Train natty for a year and you don't have to worry about all this shit. After that year of training and lean bulking, just shred down to 8-10% bodyfat and you are pretty much "looksmaxxed". If you don't even want to do that, seriously don't think about roids.

Stop overcomplicating things, literally just get lean. It's one of the only things that actually make a difference.

Regarding facial bones the answer is simple: Just get either implants or osteotomies depending on your case.

---

Spoiler: TL;DR

Read the thread faggot, you don't get high effort threads every day on here.
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@chadisbeingmade @wishIwasSalludon @JohnBaza @PsychoH @menas

Funny how all your threads get insanely famous because of the polemic ideas

 

[Jonasㅤㅤ⠀]

Funny how all your threads get insanely famous because of the polemic ideas

Because I'm fucking high iq. It's in my nature at this point

 

[org3cel.RR]

Because I'm fucking high iq. It's in my nature at this point

True, people cant accept reality, the cold truth isnt for everyone
Why did u delete our pms

 

[Jonasㅤㅤ⠀]

True, people cant accept reality, the cold truth isnt for everyone
Why did u delete our pms

I always nuke them to maintain a small inbox. Feel free to create a new convo when you want to talk or hit me up on Discord.

 

[flambria]

Rep me please btw

Not a very good response lol. Roids do not stay within your body for your entire life. I am not aware of the mechanism by which steroids prevent you from having sons while on cyle, but it should not extend to when you get off.

That shouldn't affect his ability to have sons if he can have daughters lol
I would research this but I am not planning to ever roid so there will 0 ROI for me

Eh fair.

Okay did a real deep dive on this, I will correct my assumption and mistakes here.

I will now go in depth on why there is no biological basis of roids flipping the sexes of of babies.

Ronnie Coleman is a professional bodybuilder, it is believed his steroid cycle ran from 1990 - until his retirement in 2007. During this time he fathered his first daughter, in year of 2007. He then proceeded to have a daughter in 2010, then had twin boys in 2012 (prob crazy father genetics ). Anabolic steroids clear form the body within a matter of weeks, and sex of the baby is determined form the sperm's X or Y chromosome, not the presence of anabolic.

Ronni Coleman's Off Cycle Timeline
His career came to an halt once he announced his retirement in 2007 September, and this is when it is assumed his heavy use of anabolic stopped.

According to Ronnie Own Site, he states the timeline of his children

- Jamilleah (daughter) 2007, the same year he married Rouaida Achkar.
- Valencia (2nd daughter) 2010
- Ronnie Jr. & Royce (twin sons) born after 5 years after heavy abuse of anabolic.

Here is the pressing question ...
Why did I conclude that steroids can't change gender of the user's children?

1. Fast Clearance: Test esters typically last 4.5 - 5 days, this basically means they are completely erased in your systems after 3-4 weeks max.

2. Genetics of Sexes: Human embryos become females, but this only happens in the presence of a absence of a Y‑linked SRY gene, the creation of a male baby requires a Y-chromosome from the sperm.

3. Hormonal effects: Once you are off the roids, your endocrine system will default to normal within months. Also there is no known mechanism, in which steroid use can influence the the sexes of the surviving sperm.

The conclusion is that what I said is a massive blunder , and that you were correct , also that Ronnie having daughter on cycle is pure coincidence. I did some some ai for this, put it's a tool to help us in the end of the day.

Sources:

Ronnie Coleman. (n.d.). Ronnie Coleman Family. Retrieved May 5, 2025, from https://ronnicoleman.com/ronnie-coleman-family/

Wikipedia contributors. (n.d.). 2007 Mr. Olympia. Wikipedia. Retrieved May 5, 2025, from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_Mr._Olympia

Mental Health Daily. (2015, November 27). How Long Does Testosterone Stay In Your System? Retrieved May 5, 2025, from https://mentalhealthdaily.com/2015/11/27/how-long-does-testosterone-stay-in-your-system/
CDXAAS. (n.d.). Understanding Testosterone Enanthate Half-Life. Retrieved May 5, 2025, from https://www.cdxaas.com/testosterone-enanthate-half-life/

Embryo Project Encyclopedia. (2013, December 31). Sex-determining Region Y in Mammals. Retrieved May 5, 2025, from https://embryo.asu.edu/pages/sex-determining-region-y-mammals

MedlinePlus. (n.d.). SRY gene. Retrieved May 5, 2025, from https://medlineplus.gov/genetics/gene/sry/

 

[mandiblade]

Anabolic steroids clear form the body within a matter of weeks

Side note: this is not related to the half-life of drugs. Metabolites are what take weeks to years(for specific roids) to be cleared. But this is correct anyways.

Anabolic steroids clear form the body within a matter of weeks, and sex of the baby is determined form the sperm's X or Y chromosome, not the presence of anabolic

The idea would then be that steroids modify the concentration of X/Y-chromosome carrying sperms.

His career came to an halt

Sounds like gpt but whatever

- Jamilleah (daughter) 2007, the same year he married Rouaida Achkar.
- Valencia (2nd daughter) 2010
- Ronnie Jr. & Royce (twin sons) born after 5 years after heavy abuse of anabolic.

Huh? According to this site, he had 8 daughters and 2 sons

“Never Gonna Have a Son”: Father of 8 Daughters, Ronnie Coleman Made a Shocking Confession About His Personal Life (2022) - EssentiallySports

the greatest bodybuilders of all time, Ronnie Coleman reveals about his family planning and about his 8 daughters in particular.

www.essentiallysports.com

Test esters typically last 4.5 - 5 days

The theory(AFAIK...Im not a gymcel) is that the stress from steroids modifies your concentration X/Y-chromosome carrying sperms, for some evolutionary benefit? Idk not a gymcel like I said.
Doesn't really have anything to do with the actual compounds.

The conclusion is that what I said is a massive blunder , and that you were correct , also that Ronnie having daughter on cycle is pure coincidence. I did some some ai for this, put it's a tool to help us in the end of the day.

I only used chatgpt 3 times and I could tell that this was AI. Lol we all know

Ronnie Coleman. (n.d.). Ronnie Coleman Family. Retrieved May 5, 2025, from https://ronnicoleman.com/ronnie-coleman-family/

Hmm? He claims to have 4 daughters here?



I asked perplexity for its opinion on this, and it said that this is just anecdotal broscience and no one knows the mechanism of action behind it . However, there are no contradictory anecdotes, so steroids might in fact prevent you from having sons while on cycle. It's not very smart to roid anyway

 

[flambria]

Side note: this is not related to the half-life of drugs. Metabolites are what take weeks to years(for specific roids) to be cleared. But this is correct anyways.

The idea would then be that steroids modify the concentration of X/Y-chromosome carrying sperms.

Sounds like gpt but whatever

Huh? According to this site, he had 8 daughters and 2 sons

“Never Gonna Have a Son”: Father of 8 Daughters, Ronnie Coleman Made a Shocking Confession About His Personal Life (2022) - EssentiallySports

the greatest bodybuilders of all time, Ronnie Coleman reveals about his family planning and about his 8 daughters in particular.

www.essentiallysports.com

The theory(AFAIK...Im not a gymcel) is that the stress from steroids modifies your concentration X/Y-chromosome carrying sperms, for some evolutionary benefit? Idk not a gymcel like I said.
Doesn't really have anything to do with the actual compounds.

I only used chatgpt 3 times and I could tell that this was AI. Lol we all know

Hmm? He claims to have 4 daughters here?



I asked perplexity for its opinion on this, and it said that this is just anecdotal broscience and no one knows the mechanism of action behind it . However, there are no contradictory anecdotes, so steroids might in fact prevent you from having sons while on cycle. It's not very smart to roid anyway

Yeah there is not pointing evidence that supports, or denies, just rather not risk it,
I dunno where GPT is pulling it's info from, heard it's Bing and not Google, so it might be really outdated info

 

[Calx]

Yo am 15 since ur saying it still could work reccomend me some thing I was thinking to use test 500mg this summer and maybe tren

 

[TitusA]

Feel free to try to disprove any points I made you fucking cuck, or should I call you turkish Tom? (turkish because of 1453)

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@Zagro @chadisbeingmade @wishIwasSalludon @rrm_ss2 @Balkanmogger1446 @kazama never enough, more and more bumps

I got bone growth for sure lol. I thought I already told you this tbh. Also you have women bodybuilders who get face changes in their 20s aswell so the idea that blasting big amounts of extremely strong androgens could cause facial thickening/structure growth is perfectly believable (ik I havent posted pics with my twin bro so you wont believe my anecdotal evidence).

We dont even look like twins at this point. My mother makes a point of saying using roids caused my face to change. Do I think a cycle of 500mg test would do it though? no. But using 300mg test for years with 700mg tren and anadrol thrown in so you are constantly exposed to way higher levels of androgens than normal can change your face in your 20s for sure.

Also most 18 year olds do not look like fully grown men in the face.

 

[Jonasㅤㅤ⠀]

I got bone growth for sure lol. I thought I already told you this tbh. Also you have women bodybuilders who get face changes in their 20s aswell so the idea that blasting big amounts of extremely strong androgens could cause facial thickening/structure growth is perfectly believable (ik I havent posted pics with my twin bro so you wont believe my anecdotal evidence).

"Yeah bro my facial bones grew"

Even greycels claim their "heh bone mass increased" after putting the fork down for a few weeks. You are delusional.

Also how often do you want to mention your twin brother? Nigga mentioned him over countless posts already.

But using 300mg test for years with 700mg tren and anadrol thrown in so you are constantly exposed to way higher levels of androgens than normal can change your face in your 20s for sure.

So you think it's rational recommending extreme AAS use like you described "700mg tren and anadrol" to retards on here?

Just for the slight chance that it might grow their facial bones?

Bud really recommended tren (rapes your skin, hair and organs no matter what ancillaries you use) at FUCKING 700MG.

Looksmin.org

@chadisbeingmade @Bitterschön @Zagro @menas @copercel123

 

[copercel123]

"Yeah bro my facial bones grew"

Even greycels claim their "heh bone mass increased" after putting the fork down for a few weeks. You are delusional.

Also how often do you want to mention your twin brother? Nigga mentioned him over countless posts already.

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So you think it's rational recommending extreme AAS use like you described "700mg tren and anadrol" to retards on here?

Just for the slight chance that it might grow their facial bones?

Bud really recommended tren (rapes your skin, hair and organs no matter what ancillaries you use) at FUCKING 700MG.

Looksmin.org

@chadisbeingmade @Bitterschön @Zagro @menas @copercel123

I’m not updated but I will rep you anyway

 

[Jonasㅤㅤ⠀]

I’m not updated but I will rep you anyway

He recommends people using 700mg of tren combined with other AAS just for the slight chance that it might grow their facial bones. No context needed. Straight up retarded.

 

[copercel123]

He recommends people using 700mg of tren combined with other AAS just for the slight chance that it might grow their facial bones. No context needed. Straight up retarded.

Bruh wtf

 

[TitusA]

"Yeah bro my facial bones grew"

Even greycels claim their "heh bone mass increased" after putting the fork down for a few weeks. You are delusional.

Also how often do you want to mention your twin brother? Nigga mentioned him over countless posts already.

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So you think it's rational recommending extreme AAS use like you described "700mg tren and anadrol" to retards on here?

Just for the slight chance that it might grow their facial bones?

Bud really recommended tren (rapes your skin, hair and organs no matter what ancillaries you use) at FUCKING 700MG.

Looksmin.org

@chadisbeingmade @Bitterschön @Zagro @menas @copercel123

I mention him because we are identical twins duh. We should look the same. I never recommended tren at 700mg simply said what I did. Literally ask people who have dmd me for advice I have never once advised those doses

Still got perfect skin, perfect thick wavy medium length hair, look great, maintain all my gains on just trt with intermittent blasts and I seriously doubt my organs are that damaged from 16 weeks of tren at the age of 23. I have a perfect calcium score lol and liver enzymes in the low end of the reference range.

You realise you should be blasting when younger right? Better then running mini cycles into your 30s when the organs are way more susceptible to damage and your blood vessels are less elastic.

You get way too bitchy over somebody disagreeing with you. No wonder you're an incel I can smell your mangina through my screen.

 

[TitusA]

He recommends people using 700mg of tren combined with other AAS just for the slight chance that it might grow their facial bones. No context needed. Straight up retarded.

@Zagro Have I ever recommended you taking anything near 700mg of tren when you asked me for advice>

Also @Jonas2k7 why tf were you pestering me in my dms a week ago lol? I clearly am clueless (according to you) so tf did message me that bshit for.

 

[mbi876]

This is a continuation of my last thread regarding roids.

Bonesmashing doesn't work. Roiding doesn't change the facial structure.

Nobody had results with it, Loox doesn't count because he had other procedures done. Show me only one before and after of bonesmashing changing the face. I'm not saying it doesn't work because nobody had results with it, they don't work because the concept itself of "growing" the bone is flawed...

looksmax.org

Average thread nowadays:

View attachment 3658849

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I'm seeing more and more users on here that want to roid for the purpose of enhancing their facial bones.

For most people that wouldn't even work, especially for the ones after 14/15.

The body has its own regulatory mechanisms that prevent any supraphysiological growth, even @Seth Walsh talked about that years ago. IGF-1's binding proteins prevent any excess growth for example.

There also isn't a single case where roiding really improved the facial bones, if IFBB pros that use grams of gear don't experience any facial bone growth do you think some beginner cycle could result in that?

Also no, it isn't worth a try. It is absolutely retarded to roid as you are exchanging your health, looks, money, time and effort for almost no ROI.

I'll explain each real risk below:

1. Health.​

Especially oral roids completely nuke your lipids and cardiovascular health, if you have any health condition you are fucked.

Also people on roids are only able to have daughters, give up your dream to raise a son already. You'll only have a daughter you'll feed and raise for 16 years, until she gets gangbanged by low iq subhumans.

There are tons of other side effects I won't even list, just look at the global causes of death and now multiply your chances of getting each single one of them by 100.

2. Looks.​

If you aren't using tons of ancillaries to prevent any side effects, which can also become costly fast, you fuck your looks too.

If you believe that hair is life, you should stay the fuck away from roids. No, if you are anything above NW1 Finasteride and Dutasteride won't be enough to save you afterwards. Roiding will accelerate your hair loss by a lot.

Not even speaking of the sides of inhibiting 5AR, your mental drive, penis development, erections and other physiological processes will be reduced or stunted. If you want to use 5ARIs later in life sure, but you really want to start using them that early?

3. Money.​

Most users don't have any money to spend in the first place, you'd need to invest atleast 200-300 bucks for a good cycle. Also coming off is pretty hard, you'd have to titrate dosages down for a few months depending on the compounds used, run a full PCT which has a lot of side effects too and pray your HPTA-Axis comes back to baseline.

Also the blood tests you have to do before, during and after a cycle can cost a lot too. Good luck financing that and explaining to your parents why you want to check your bloods every few months. The average cost of these blood tests can vary between 100-300$+ depending on what you want to check.

4. Time.​

Good luck trying to source everything in the first place and paying online with crypto, gymcelling 6+ times a week and researching the compounds you need to use. Spoiler: Most things you hear about roids are straight up wrong. If you aren't willing to research countless hours before injecting hormones into your body don't even think about starting.

Also better find a hiding spot for your roids, regarding the peptides you'd have to cool them in your fridge.

5. Effort.​

If you aren't planning to completely lock in with your diet and training don't go on this website at this point, most of these kids that want to start roids aren't even lean in the first place.

Good luck eating low calories sometimes, going to the gym 6 times a week even if you don't have the time, doing hard workouts and getting the work done for years. There is a reason why most gymcels on roids look like shit.

---

Now you maybe asking yourself "Then what should I do instead?"

Train natty for a year and you don't have to worry about all this shit. After that year of training and lean bulking, just shred down to 8-10% bodyfat and you are pretty much "looksmaxxed". If you don't even want to do that, seriously don't think about roids.

Stop overcomplicating things, literally just get lean. It's one of the only things that actually make a difference.

Regarding facial bones the answer is simple: Just get either implants or osteotomies depending on your case.

---

Spoiler: TL;DR

Read the thread faggot, you don't get high effort threads every day on here.
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@chadisbeingmade @wishIwasSalludon @JohnBaza @PsychoH @menas

Great stuff

 

[Jonasㅤㅤ⠀]

Still got perfect skin, perfect thick wavy medium length hair, look great, maintain all my gains on just trt with intermittent blasts and I seriously doubt my organs are that damaged from 16 weeks of tren at the age of 23. I have a perfect calcium score lol and liver enzymes in the low end of the reference range.

That's you, you fucking retard. Most people would never be able to pull off those dosages.

You realise you should be blasting when younger right? Better then running mini cycles into your 30s when the organs are way more susceptible to damage and your blood vessels are less elastic.

Explain the logic behind that statement. You literally have 0 molecules of proof and pulled that idea out of your ass.

Just rape your body even earlier theory.

You get way too bitchy over somebody disagreeing with you. No wonder you're an incel I can smell your mangina through my screen.

Says the one that rots here since 2020. I can imagine your subhuman roidcel face through the screen trying to argue with me.

 

[Zagro]

@Zagro Have I ever recommended you taking anything near 700mg of tren when you asked me for advice>

No you recommended me not to take tren

 

[Jonasㅤㅤ⠀]

@Zagro Have I ever recommended you taking anything near 700mg of tren when you asked me for advice>

Also @Jonas2k7 why tf were you pestering me in my dms a week ago lol? I clearly am clueless (according to you) so tf did message me that bshit for.

I literally gave you advice retard. Nice edit right there, almost didn't see the message.