If you are thinking about roiding read this thread.

[NVM_Ignacio]

Should be fixed? Wait I'll try

Idk if ur trying to pm me or allowing me to pm you but its not working

 

[NVM_Ignacio]

DNR
JUST READ DONT BONEMASHING AND STOP
NEWGEN AHHHHH

Werent u in love with zeta

 

[realshit]

Werent u in love with zeta

yea( btw I want to be like him )

 

[enchanted_elixir]

If you care about skin or hair, stay away from androgenic steroids.

 

[veggiedietcell]

This is a continuation of my last thread regarding roids.

Bonesmashing doesn't work. Roiding doesn't change the facial structure.

Nobody had results with it, Loox doesn't count because he had other procedures done. Show me only one before and after of bonesmashing changing the face. I'm not saying it doesn't work because nobody had results with it, they don't work because the concept itself of "growing" the bone is flawed...

looksmax.org

Average thread nowadays:

View attachment 3658849

---

I'm seeing more and more users on here that want to roid for the purpose of enhancing their facial bones.

For most people that wouldn't even work, especially for the ones after 14/15.

The body has its own regulatory mechanisms that prevent any supraphysiological growth, even @Seth Walsh talked about that years ago. IGF-1's binding proteins prevent any excess growth for example.

There also isn't a single case where roiding really improved the facial bones, if IFBB pros that use grams of gear don't experience any facial bone growth do you think some beginner cycle could result in that?

Also no, it isn't worth a try. It is absolutely retarded to roid as you are exchanging your health, looks, money, time and effort for almost no ROI.

I'll explain each real risk below:

1. Health.​

Especially oral roids completely nuke your lipids and cardiovascular health, if you have any health condition you are fucked.

Also people on roids are only able to have daughters, give up your dream to raise a son already. You'll only have a daughter you'll feed and raise for 16 years, until she gets gangbanged by low iq subhumans.

There are tons of other side effects I won't even list, just look at the global causes of death and now multiply your chances of getting each single one of them by 100.

2. Looks.​

If you aren't using tons of ancillaries to prevent any side effects, which can also become costly fast, you fuck your looks too.

If you believe that hair is life, you should stay the fuck away from roids. No, if you are anything above NW1 Finasteride and Dutasteride won't be enough to save you afterwards. Roiding will accelerate your hair loss by a lot.

Not even speaking of the sides of inhibiting 5AR, your mental drive, penis development, erections and other physiological processes will be reduced or stunted. If you want to use 5ARIs later in life sure, but you really want to start using them that early?

3. Money.​

Most users don't have any money to spend in the first place, you'd need to invest atleast 200-300 bucks for a good cycle. Also coming off is pretty hard, you'd have to titrate dosages down for a few months depending on the compounds used, run a full PCT which has a lot of side effects too and pray your HPTA-Axis comes back to baseline.

Also the blood tests you have to do before, during and after a cycle can cost a lot too. Good luck financing that and explaining to your parents why you want to check your bloods every few months. The average cost of these blood tests can vary between 100-300$+ depending on what you want to check.

4. Time.​

Good luck trying to source everything in the first place and paying online with crypto, gymcelling 6+ times a week and researching the compounds you need to use. Spoiler: Most things you hear about roids are straight up wrong. If you aren't willing to research countless hours before injecting hormones into your body don't even think about starting.

Also better find a hiding spot for your roids, regarding the peptides you'd have to cool them in your fridge.

5. Effort.​

If you aren't planning to completely lock in with your diet and training don't go on this website at this point, most of these kids that want to start roids aren't even lean in the first place.

Good luck eating low calories sometimes, going to the gym 6 times a week even if you don't have the time, doing hard workouts and getting the work done for years. There is a reason why most gymcels on roids look like shit.

---

Now you maybe asking yourself "Then what should I do instead?"

Train natty for a year and you don't have to worry about all this shit. After that year of training and lean bulking, just shred down to 8-10% bodyfat and you are pretty much "looksmaxxed". If you don't even want to do that, seriously don't think about roids.

Stop overcomplicating things, literally just get lean. It's one of the only things that actually make a difference.

Regarding facial bones the answer is simple: Just get either implants or osteotomies depending on your case.

---

Spoiler: TL;DR

Read the thread faggot, you don't get high effort threads every day on here.
View attachment 3658968

@chadisbeingmade @wishIwasSalludon @JohnBaza @PsychoH @menas

yea, u speaking my mind dude, I am tired of debating new cels, just like mewing, hoping on hgh and roids are the new meme lmao.

also mirin knowledge brother

 

[Tenzen Thenziro]

niggas think that running test will change their subhuman bones

Did for one month while turning 21 and literally saw bone growth, being using fin since 19, had braces on, took it off and hopped on the small cycle.

 

[MelaninMogg]

This is a continuation of my last thread regarding roids.

Bonesmashing doesn't work. Roiding doesn't change the facial structure.

Nobody had results with it, Loox doesn't count because he had other procedures done. Show me only one before and after of bonesmashing changing the face. I'm not saying it doesn't work because nobody had results with it, they don't work because the concept itself of "growing" the bone is flawed...

looksmax.org

Average thread nowadays:

View attachment 3658849

---

I'm seeing more and more users on here that want to roid for the purpose of enhancing their facial bones.

For most people that wouldn't even work, especially for the ones after 14/15.

The body has its own regulatory mechanisms that prevent any supraphysiological growth, even @Seth Walsh talked about that years ago. IGF-1's binding proteins prevent any excess growth for example.

There also isn't a single case where roiding really improved the facial bones, if IFBB pros that use grams of gear don't experience any facial bone growth do you think some beginner cycle could result in that?

Also no, it isn't worth a try. It is absolutely retarded to roid as you are exchanging your health, looks, money, time and effort for almost no ROI.

I'll explain each real risk below:

1. Health.​

Especially oral roids completely nuke your lipids and cardiovascular health, if you have any health condition you are fucked.

Also people on roids are only able to have daughters, give up your dream to raise a son already. You'll only have a daughter you'll feed and raise for 16 years, until she gets gangbanged by low iq subhumans.

There are tons of other side effects I won't even list, just look at the global causes of death and now multiply your chances of getting each single one of them by 100.

2. Looks.​

If you aren't using tons of ancillaries to prevent any side effects, which can also become costly fast, you fuck your looks too.

If you believe that hair is life, you should stay the fuck away from roids. No, if you are anything above NW1 Finasteride and Dutasteride won't be enough to save you afterwards. Roiding will accelerate your hair loss by a lot.

Not even speaking of the sides of inhibiting 5AR, your mental drive, penis development, erections and other physiological processes will be reduced or stunted. If you want to use 5ARIs later in life sure, but you really want to start using them that early?

3. Money.​

Most users don't have any money to spend in the first place, you'd need to invest atleast 200-300 bucks for a good cycle. Also coming off is pretty hard, you'd have to titrate dosages down for a few months depending on the compounds used, run a full PCT which has a lot of side effects too and pray your HPTA-Axis comes back to baseline.

Also the blood tests you have to do before, during and after a cycle can cost a lot too. Good luck financing that and explaining to your parents why you want to check your bloods every few months. The average cost of these blood tests can vary between 100-300$+ depending on what you want to check.

4. Time.​

Good luck trying to source everything in the first place and paying online with crypto, gymcelling 6+ times a week and researching the compounds you need to use. Spoiler: Most things you hear about roids are straight up wrong. If you aren't willing to research countless hours before injecting hormones into your body don't even think about starting.

Also better find a hiding spot for your roids, regarding the peptides you'd have to cool them in your fridge.

5. Effort.​

If you aren't planning to completely lock in with your diet and training don't go on this website at this point, most of these kids that want to start roids aren't even lean in the first place.

Good luck eating low calories sometimes, going to the gym 6 times a week even if you don't have the time, doing hard workouts and getting the work done for years. There is a reason why most gymcels on roids look like shit.

---

Now you maybe asking yourself "Then what should I do instead?"

Train natty for a year and you don't have to worry about all this shit. After that year of training and lean bulking, just shred down to 8-10% bodyfat and you are pretty much "looksmaxxed". If you don't even want to do that, seriously don't think about roids.

Stop overcomplicating things, literally just get lean. It's one of the only things that actually make a difference.

Regarding facial bones the answer is simple: Just get either implants or osteotomies depending on your case.

---

Spoiler: TL;DR

Read the thread faggot, you don't get high effort threads every day on here.
View attachment 3658968

@chadisbeingmade @wishIwasSalludon @JohnBaza @PsychoH [US

 

[Tenzen Thenziro]

yea, u speaking my mind dude, I am tired of debating new cels, just like mewing, hoping on hgh and roids are the new meme lmao.

also mirin knowledge brother

Kinda old tho, seeing this for six months already, about mewing, it saved my jaw from being more recessed;
Braces and mewing at 13

 

[veggiedietcell]

Kinda old tho, seeing this for six months already, about mewing, it saved my jaw from being more recessed;
Braces and mewing at 13

Yea true though

 

[jeff1234]

I know bro? Isn’t something new. If your high iq go look at Jewish accomplishments they are countless.

Nigger we literally built the best missles defense in the world and we’re helping USA in the army so much (our army train there army jfl)

i love your high iq takes so much

 

[jeff1234]

And still he’s not saying they are dumb.
He’s literally pointing out we’re smart jfl.

“They control the United States” who else can do this? Only the superior Jews people

i hate jews but you have apoint

 

[Jonas2k7]

yea, u speaking my mind dude, I am tired of debating new cels, just like mewing, hoping on hgh and roids are the new meme lmao.

also mirin knowledge brother

Thanks bro, appreciate that.

Did for one month while turning 21 and literally saw bone growth, being using fin since 19, had braces on, took it off and hopped on the small cycle.

Look at this grey ass reply, most people like to claim "muh I saw bone growth" even people in the mewing subreddit LOL. Without proof it's just a baseless claim.

Kinda old tho, seeing this for six months already, about mewing, it saved my jaw from being more recessed;
Braces and mewing at 13

No wonder the same dude claims mewing ascended him.

 

[dawooddX]

yea, u speaking my mind dude, I am tired of debating new cels, just like mewing, hoping on hgh and roids are the new meme lmao.

also mirin knowledge brother

why wldnt roids increase facial dimorphism during puberty arnd 15-17??

 

[Jonas2k7]

why wldnt roids increase facial dimorphism during puberty arnd 15-17??

Read the fucking thread you stupid retard.

@veggiedietcell these greys...

 

[dawooddX]

Read the fucking thread you stupid retard.

@veggiedietcell these greys...

okay but that didnt mean shit ngl u never gave a proper debunk
gh+roids at puberty increases it
theres also been people making threads and showing results when hopping on roids
at 16-18 and they have a good noticable change

 

[chadisbeingmade]

theres also been people making threads and showing results when hopping on roids

please show 1.

 

[dawooddX]

please show 1.

this guy is 17 he hopped on anavar and test and this was 4 months
only one i got it saved but i was browsing ppls results months ago and there were ppl actually benefiting from this in terms of bone growth

especially in reddit aswell ppl arnd 18-19 on test getting more masculine features

im not even denying that it wont work i js wanna know why esp when its proven alrdy?

 

[chadisbeingmade]

View attachment 3661747View attachment 3661748 this guy is 17 he hopped on anavar and test and this was 4 months
only one i got it saved but i was browsing ppls results months ago and there were ppl actually benefiting from this in terms of bone growth

especially in reddit aswell ppl arnd 18-19 on test getting more masculine features

im not even denying that it wont work i js wanna know why esp when its proven alrdy?

He got leaner and his masseter muscles grew.
Not even jay cutlers face changed after years of roids, all that grew was his nose from GH and masseters

 

[Jonas2k7]

He got leaner and his masseter muscles grew.
Not even jay cutlers face changed after years of roids, all that grew was his nose from GH and masseters

Exactly, people need to realize that not even IFBB Pros and Mr. Olympias experience any facial changes.

 

[Newday*V3]

Shit thread, total fucking dogshit

And also IGFBP are a good thing and it what makes the IGF-1 have an extended half-life, circulate, and affect bone and muscle.

Also people on roids are not cursed to have daughters for the rest of their life idk where you got this from, why is this shit low iq monkey thread fucking pinned, what soy fucktard cuck fucking pinned this shit

 

[Zagro]

Also people on roids are not cursed to have daughters for the rest of their life idk where you got this from

Pretty sure it’s a myth

 

[Newday*V3]

Pretty sure it’s a myth

AND THE THREAD IS FUCKING PINNED, WHO IN TF IS PINNING THIS

 

[choro]

This is a continuation of my last thread regarding roids.

Bonesmashing doesn't work. Roiding doesn't change the facial structure.

Nobody had results with it, Loox doesn't count because he had other procedures done. Show me only one before and after of bonesmashing changing the face. I'm not saying it doesn't work because nobody had results with it, they don't work because the concept itself of "growing" the bone is flawed...

looksmax.org

Average thread nowadays:

View attachment 3658849

---

I'm seeing more and more users on here that want to roid for the purpose of enhancing their facial bones.

For most people that wouldn't even work, especially for the ones after 14/15.

The body has its own regulatory mechanisms that prevent any supraphysiological growth, even @Seth Walsh talked about that years ago. IGF-1's binding proteins prevent any excess growth for example.

There also isn't a single case where roiding really improved the facial bones, if IFBB pros that use grams of gear don't experience any facial bone growth do you think some beginner cycle could result in that?

Also no, it isn't worth a try. It is absolutely retarded to roid as you are exchanging your health, looks, money, time and effort for almost no ROI.

I'll explain each real risk below:

1. Health.​

Especially oral roids completely nuke your lipids and cardiovascular health, if you have any health condition you are fucked.

Also people on roids are only able to have daughters, give up your dream to raise a son already. You'll only have a daughter you'll feed and raise for 16 years, until she gets gangbanged by low iq subhumans.

There are tons of other side effects I won't even list, just look at the global causes of death and now multiply your chances of getting each single one of them by 100.

2. Looks.​

If you aren't using tons of ancillaries to prevent any side effects, which can also become costly fast, you fuck your looks too.

If you believe that hair is life, you should stay the fuck away from roids. No, if you are anything above NW1 Finasteride and Dutasteride won't be enough to save you afterwards. Roiding will accelerate your hair loss by a lot.

Not even speaking of the sides of inhibiting 5AR, your mental drive, penis development, erections and other physiological processes will be reduced or stunted. If you want to use 5ARIs later in life sure, but you really want to start using them that early?

3. Money.​

Most users don't have any money to spend in the first place, you'd need to invest atleast 200-300 bucks for a good cycle. Also coming off is pretty hard, you'd have to titrate dosages down for a few months depending on the compounds used, run a full PCT which has a lot of side effects too and pray your HPTA-Axis comes back to baseline.

Also the blood tests you have to do before, during and after a cycle can cost a lot too. Good luck financing that and explaining to your parents why you want to check your bloods every few months. The average cost of these blood tests can vary between 100-300$+ depending on what you want to check.

4. Time.​

Good luck trying to source everything in the first place and paying online with crypto, gymcelling 6+ times a week and researching the compounds you need to use. Spoiler: Most things you hear about roids are straight up wrong. If you aren't willing to research countless hours before injecting hormones into your body don't even think about starting.

Also better find a hiding spot for your roids, regarding the peptides you'd have to cool them in your fridge.

5. Effort.​

If you aren't planning to completely lock in with your diet and training don't go on this website at this point, most of these kids that want to start roids aren't even lean in the first place.

Good luck eating low calories sometimes, going to the gym 6 times a week even if you don't have the time, doing hard workouts and getting the work done for years. There is a reason why most gymcels on roids look like shit.

---

Now you maybe asking yourself "Then what should I do instead?"

Train natty for a year and you don't have to worry about all this shit. After that year of training and lean bulking, just shred down to 8-10% bodyfat and you are pretty much "looksmaxxed". If you don't even want to do that, seriously don't think about roids.

Stop overcomplicating things, literally just get lean. It's one of the only things that actually make a difference.

Regarding facial bones the answer is simple: Just get either implants or osteotomies depending on your case.

---

Spoiler: TL;DR

Read the thread faggot, you don't get high effort threads every day on here.
View attachment 3658968

@chadisbeingmade @wishIwasSalludon @JohnBaza @PsychoH @menas

Why I can't get boy If I use steeoid

 

[Jonas2k7]

Shit thread, total fucking dogshit

Okay then try to debunk all points I made fucking retard or fuck off

And also IGFBP are a good thing and it what makes the IGF-1 have an extended half-life, circulate, and affect bone and muscle.

You fucking room temperature iq monkey, according to your logic high SHBG is also good or what

It's about IGFBP preventing any IGF-1 from exerting its effects in the desired tissue

Also people on roids are not cursed to have daughters for the rest of their life idk where you got this from, why is this shit low iq monkey thread fucking pinned, what soy fucktard cuck fucking pinned this shit

Watch MPMD or LeoLongevity.

AND THE THREAD IS FUCKING PINNED, WHO IN TF IS PINNING THIS

Fuck off my thread you utter subhuman or you'll land on ignore.

@chadisbeingmade

 

[Eren]

Thanks bro, appreciate that.

Look at this grey ass reply, most people like to claim "muh I saw bone growth" even people in the mewing subreddit LOL. Without proof it's just a baseless claim.

No wonder the same dude claims mewing ascended him.

Mewing works ( i have the appliance from Mike Mew)
But for it to work you have to get the appliance to have constant minimal pressure

 

[Newday*V3]

Okay then try to debunk all points I made fucking retard or fuck off

You fucking room temperature iq monkey, according to your logic high SHBG is also good or what

It's about IGFBP preventing any IGF-1 from exerting its effects in the desired tissue

YOU FUCKING IDIOT, SHBGs BIND and DEACTIVATE the fucking test, IGFBPs AMPLIFY the fucking IGF-1 and DO NOT DEACTIVATE IT, they ALLOW IT TO AFFECT BONES

THIS IS WHY IGF-1 LR3 IS SHIT BECAUSE IT DOESN’T HAVE IGFBPs, MAKING IT ONLY AFFECT MUSCLES.

mfer

This is a continuation of my last thread regarding roids.

Bonesmashing doesn't work. Roiding doesn't change the facial structure.

Nobody had results with it, Loox doesn't count because he had other procedures done. Show me only one before and after of bonesmashing changing the face. I'm not saying it doesn't work because nobody had results with it, they don't work because the concept itself of "growing" the bone is flawed...

looksmax.org

Average thread nowadays:

View attachment 3658849

---

I'm seeing more and more users on here that want to roid for the purpose of enhancing their facial bones.

For most people that wouldn't even work, especially for the ones after 14/15.

False, craniofacial structure immensely changes for men past these ages, this is with their natural hormones btw. Just bro science

There also isn't a single case where roiding really improved the facial bones, if IFBB pros that use grams of gear don't experience any facial bone growth do you think some beginner cycle could result in that?

They don’t do any mechanical stimulation, they only have biological stimulation.

Anyway Sam Sulek’s jaw became giga

How about Loox then? Or nockent?

Especially oral roids completely nuke your lipids and cardiovascular health, if you have any health condition you are fucked.

True

Also people on roids are only able to have daughters, give up your dream to raise a son already. You'll only have a daughter you'll feed and raise for 16 years, until she gets gangbanged by low iq subhumans.

Ramblings

If you believe that hair is life, you should stay the fuck away from roids.

Dutasteride

No, if you are anything above NW1 Finasteride and Dutasteride won't be enough to save you afterwards. Roiding will accelerate your hair loss by a lot.

If you use compounds like test paired with dut to inhibit 5ar you will experience virtually 0 balding, you can also use GH, and use a high anabolic to low androgenic compound with ur test

Stop being low IQ there are many ways to go about this

Not even speaking of the sides of inhibiting 5AR, your mental drive,

You get more free testosterone.

penis development,

The AR receptors for this finalises at like 16-18, if you are older than this then the DHT won’t make your dick bigger

erections and other physiological processes will be reduced or stunted. If you want to use 5ARIs later in life sure, but you really want to start using them that early?

Not everyone has this problem, just count urself unlucky

3. Money.​

Most users don't have any money to spend in the first place,

How is this a reason NOT to use roids, money? really?

“Don’t do surgeries they are too expensive”
“Don’t go on vacation they are expensive”

So if you can afford it it’s fine right?

Also coming off is pretty hard, you'd have to titrate dosages down for a few months depending on the compounds used,

Just use your harshest compounds at the start then run a trt dose close to when you want to PCT, not rocket science

run a full PCT which has a lot of side effects too

Depending on the compounds you take, seriously doubt you will have special problems with HCG + Enclo

and pray your HPTA-Axis comes back to baseline.

It will, since you used the harshest compounds at the start, negating the suppressive effects near the end of the cycle. Not rocket science dude

Also the blood tests you have to do before, during and after a cycle can cost a lot too. Good luck financing that and explaining to your parents why you want to check your bloods every few months. The average cost of these blood tests can vary between 100-300$+ depending on what you want to check.

Who in tf is srsly doing blood tests lmao

4. Time.​

Good luck trying to source everything in the first place and paying online with crypto,

Omg, bro? it’s really NOT THAT HARD, sooo many sourcessss it goess on forever

and JFL with the crypto part, if you can’t

Buy the select amount of bitcoin

Copy and paste the address wallet you want to send it to

Then send the select amount then you are a subspecies of human

gymcelling 6+ times a week

Not necessary

and researching the compounds you need to use.

Not complicated when you filter out the bs

Also better find a hiding spot for your roids, regarding the peptides you'd have to cool them in your fridge.

Not everyone buys peptides, and have you ever bought peptides or GH in ur life, you can hide the vial down your nostril it’s that small

5. Effort.​

If you aren't planning to completely lock in with your diet and training don't go on this website at this point, most of these kids that want to start roids aren't even lean in the first place.

The roids will give you the motivation to lock in, it doesn’t matter if you aren’t dialed in or not

The androgenics will force you to if you have the clear goal of wanting to dial in

Good luck eating low calories sometimes,

Ah yes this is specific to roiders

going to the gym 6 times a week even if you don't have the time,

not necessary, especially on roids

doing hard workouts and getting the work done for years.

When you are on steroids it won’t take years it will take MONTHS

There is a reason why most gymcels on roids look like shit.

They have shit frames

Now you maybe asking yourself "Then what should I do instead?"

Train natty for a year

Waste of time, more stressful on the body

and you are pretty much "looksmaxxed". If you don't even want to do that, seriously don't think about roids.

People want to SAVE TIME, training natty is WASTING TIME

Stop overcomplicating things

Shit thread

 

[Jonas2k7]

YOU FUCKING IDIOT, SHBGs BIND and DEACTIVATE the fucking test, IGFBPs AMPLIFY the fucking IGF-1 and DO NOT DEACTIVATE IT, they ALLOW IT TO AFFECT BONES

THIS IS WHY IGF-1 LR3 IS SHIT BECAUSE IT DOESN’T HAVE IGFBPs, MAKING IT ONLY AFFECT MUSCLES.

IGFBP3 is bad for igf-1, no supraphysiological growth.

False, craniofacial structure immensely changes for men past these ages, this is with their natural hormones btw. Just bro science

Show me one example where substantial differences happen?

They don’t do any mechanical stimulation, they only have biological stimulation.

Biological stimulation can result in mechanotransduction aka mechanical stimulation theoretically. The other way around too.

Anyway Sam Sulek’s jaw became giga

I wouldn't agree on that one, just masseters increased in size.

How about Loox then? Or nockent?

Fillers, Loox just had fillers and NockturnalKent too.

True

Ramblings

MPMD and LeoLongevity made a video on that.

Dutasteride

Most people shouldn't block their DHT when young.

If you use compounds like test paired with dut to inhibit 5ar you will experience virtually 0 balding, you can also use GH, and use a high anabolic to low androgenic compound with ur test

My point is that the younger you start with roids the more necessary an 5ARI becomes, I don't think most teenagers here want to start taking Fin or Dut daily or be dependant on it in the first place for the rest of their life. Agreed with the high anabolic compounds.

You get more free testosterone.

You don't actually, the "freed up" test from the lack of 5AR just goes to the same tissues. Now don't say "serum testosterone is higher" I know, but also serum DHT is reduced. I mean it's balanced if you understand what I mean.

The AR receptors for this finalises at like 16-18, if you are older than this then the DHT won’t make your dick bigger

AR's don't "finalise", a change in gene transcription happens after puberty.

Not everyone has this problem, just count urself unlucky

Everyone I know that actually uses a 5ARI documented about watery semen and worse erections. I wouldn't call this pseudoscience. You need ANDROGENIC signalling in your penile tissue and brain to have erections and mental drive.

How is this a reason NOT to use roids, money? really?

“Don’t do surgeries they are too expensive”
“Don’t go on vacation they are expensive”

It's not the same analogy, you could instead put the money from roids into surgery.

Who in tf is srsly doing blood tests lmao

Most should. Ask any advanced roider, blood tests are important.

Not everyone buys peptides, and have you ever bought peptides or GH in ur life, you can hide the vial down your nostril it’s that small

Agreed, still most will have a problem with that especially when buying larger quantities. I know you don't have to cool everything down at the same time.

The roids will give you the motivation to lock in, it doesn’t matter if you aren’t dialed in or not

Not everyone will, also that "lock in" can't be 100% good if most people here don't even know the basics about dieting and training.

They have shit frames

It's about the fact that most people think you will reach Markus Rühl level on musculature with just blasting roids, without the basics you will waste your time and all the resources you burn.

People want to SAVE TIME, training natty is WASTING TIME

People should train natty first, there is no reason to give yourself all types of stretch marks and skyrocket your injury potential.

 

[Jonas2k7]

i have the appliance from Mike Mew

@Newday*V3 @chadisbeingmade

 

[chadisbeingmade]

View attachment 3662107

@Newday*V3 @chadisbeingmade

$300 please.

 

[veggiedietcell]

Read the fucking thread you stupid retard.

@veggiedietcell these greys...

Man I debated many greys along with the one and only @Intel.Imperative, natural selection bud, let them all fuck up their body for ‘dimorphism’

 

[dawooddX]

Exactly, people need to realize that not even IFBB Pros and Mr. Olympias experience any facial changes.

View attachment 3661765

Exactly, people need to realize that not even IFBB Pros and Mr. Olympias experience any facial changes.

View attachment 3661765

their not in puberty lol no shit

 

[Jonas2k7]

their not in puberty lol no shit

Reply to @chadisbeingmade then.

Just his masseters became larger in size and he got leaner. That's it you fucking retard.

Also do you really think Anavar "masculinizes" you?

 

[veggiedietcell]

Reply to @chadisbeingmade then.

Just his masseters became larger in size and he got leaner. That's it you fucking retard.

Also do you really think Anavar "masculinizes" you?

Do u think it is worth roiding for muscle gains? Like don’t u need to sacrifice ur health?

 

[chadisbeingmade]

their not in puberty lol no shit

Enlighten me bud. What did I miss? Oh ok, I forgot to mention his hair grew out, but I didn’t think that was a result of Test and Var.

You people underestimate the difference leanmax does.

“No bro they didn’t leanmax they roided.”

pls stfu

 

[Jonas2k7]

Do u think it is worth roiding for muscle gains? Like don’t u need to sacrifice ur health?

It depends on your own goals bro, it can improve your SMV. The most important thing still remains your face and height.

I don't think it's worth it if you don't learn 24/7 about diet and training first, I mean you should atleast work out 1 year. Like I said in my previous reply, if you immediately start with roids your injury potential skyrockets, you will also get stretch marks easily.

TL;DR: Only roid if you went consistently to the gym for 1 year, learned about diet and training and know what you are doing and you are doing it solely to increase your muscle mass.
For most people it still isn't worth it.

If you invested all that time and effort into improving your face and getting lean you'd achieve much greater results tbh.

Infinite SMV, even with barely any muscle mass.

 

[dawooddX]

@Jonas2k7 @chadisbeingmade @veggiedietcell u guys are probably right(theres still a bit of hope in my head actually) i might js be coping hard cuz im a kid and i want a jaw but yh i was genuienly gonna buy roids ill rethink my decision if its worth it do more research find more results etc

but now my first priority is to buy ozempic

 

[chadisbeingmade]

@Jonas2k7 @chadisbeingmade @veggiedietcell u guys are probably right(theres still a bit of hope in my head actually) i might js be coping hard cuz im a kid and i want a jaw but yh i was genuienly gonna buy roids ill rethink my decision if its worth it do more research find more results etc

but now my first priority is to buy ozempic

Think long and hard bud. Long and hard.

 

[Bergo]

low iq thread. u will only lose hair if baldness runs in ur family. yes roids will bloat u but for only the first 5 weeks. i dont have hairloss. opposite my hair grows super fast

 

[6'2 MTN]

This is a continuation of my last thread regarding roids.

Bonesmashing doesn't work. Roiding doesn't change the facial structure.

Nobody had results with it, Loox doesn't count because he had other procedures done. Show me only one before and after of bonesmashing changing the face. I'm not saying it doesn't work because nobody had results with it, they don't work because the concept itself of "growing" the bone is flawed...

looksmax.org

Average thread nowadays:

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I'm seeing more and more users on here that want to roid for the purpose of enhancing their facial bones.

For most people that wouldn't even work, especially for the ones after 14/15.

The body has its own regulatory mechanisms that prevent any supraphysiological growth, even @Seth Walsh talked about that years ago. IGF-1's binding proteins prevent any excess growth for example.

There also isn't a single case where roiding really improved the facial bones, if IFBB pros that use grams of gear don't experience any facial bone growth do you think some beginner cycle could result in that?

Also no, it isn't worth a try. It is absolutely retarded to roid as you are exchanging your health, looks, money, time and effort for almost no ROI.

I'll explain each real risk below:

1. Health.​

Especially oral roids completely nuke your lipids and cardiovascular health, if you have any health condition you are fucked.

Also people on roids are only able to have daughters, give up your dream to raise a son already. You'll only have a daughter you'll feed and raise for 16 years, until she gets gangbanged by low iq subhumans.

There are tons of other side effects I won't even list, just look at the global causes of death and now multiply your chances of getting each single one of them by 100.

2. Looks.​

If you aren't using tons of ancillaries to prevent any side effects, which can also become costly fast, you fuck your looks too.

If you believe that hair is life, you should stay the fuck away from roids. No, if you are anything above NW1 Finasteride and Dutasteride won't be enough to save you afterwards. Roiding will accelerate your hair loss by a lot.

Not even speaking of the sides of inhibiting 5AR, your mental drive, penis development, erections and other physiological processes will be reduced or stunted. If you want to use 5ARIs later in life sure, but you really want to start using them that early?

3. Money.​

Most users don't have any money to spend in the first place, you'd need to invest atleast 200-300 bucks for a good cycle. Also coming off is pretty hard, you'd have to titrate dosages down for a few months depending on the compounds used, run a full PCT which has a lot of side effects too and pray your HPTA-Axis comes back to baseline.

Also the blood tests you have to do before, during and after a cycle can cost a lot too. Good luck financing that and explaining to your parents why you want to check your bloods every few months. The average cost of these blood tests can vary between 100-300$+ depending on what you want to check.

4. Time.​

Good luck trying to source everything in the first place and paying online with crypto, gymcelling 6+ times a week and researching the compounds you need to use. Spoiler: Most things you hear about roids are straight up wrong. If you aren't willing to research countless hours before injecting hormones into your body don't even think about starting.

Also better find a hiding spot for your roids, regarding the peptides you'd have to cool them in your fridge.

5. Effort.​

If you aren't planning to completely lock in with your diet and training don't go on this website at this point, most of these kids that want to start roids aren't even lean in the first place.

Good luck eating low calories sometimes, going to the gym 6 times a week even if you don't have the time, doing hard workouts and getting the work done for years. There is a reason why most gymcels on roids look like shit.

---

Now you maybe asking yourself "Then what should I do instead?"

Train natty for a year and you don't have to worry about all this shit. After that year of training and lean bulking, just shred down to 8-10% bodyfat and you are pretty much "looksmaxxed". If you don't even want to do that, seriously don't think about roids.

Stop overcomplicating things, literally just get lean. It's one of the only things that actually make a difference.

Regarding facial bones the answer is simple: Just get either implants or osteotomies depending on your case.

---

Spoiler: TL;DR

Read the thread faggot, you don't get high effort threads every day on here.
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@chadisbeingmade @wishIwasSalludon @JohnBaza @PsychoH @menas

I reckon lifestyle changes or clomiphene to 1000+ natural test will mog and look much better than roids with side effects. I mean 1000 nd/dl natural testosterone is far better than synethic

 

[6'2 MTN]

low iq thread. u will only lose hair if baldness runs in ur family. yes roids will bloat u but for only the first 5 weeks. i dont have hairloss. opposite my hair grows super fast

What does your cycle look like? Just test

 

[Bergo]

What does your cycle look like? Just test

400 mg test. was planning on using anavar soon. no hairloss infact my hair grows back super fast. no side effects.

 

[6'2 MTN]

400 mg test. was planning on using anavar soon. no hairloss infact my hair grows back super fast. no side effects.

Wow Good for you, I must run enclomiphene this summer for 1000+ natural test

 

[DR. NICKGA]

low iq thread. u will only lose hair if baldness runs in ur family. yes roids will bloat u but for only the first 5 weeks. i dont have hairloss. opposite my hair grows super fast

Hair loss will only happen if you use a dht based steroid , otherwise not

 

[Eren]

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@Newday*V3 @chadisbeingmade

wtf is that shit

 

[Eren]

Enlighten me bud. What did I miss? Oh ok, I forgot to mention his hair grew out, but I didn’t think that was a result of Test and Var.

You people underestimate the difference leanmax does.

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“No bro they didn’t leanmax they roided.”

pls stfu

leanmax doesn't do shit if you are boneless

+ if you are on finasteride for example you will be perma bloated, at varying degrees, over time

 

[chadisbeingmade]

leanmax doesn't do shit if you are boneless

+ if you are on finasteride for example you will be perma bloated, at varying degrees, over time

Don’t be boneless theory. It’s over if you are.

Fin/dut isn’t bloating you unless your estrogen out of range.

 

[Va-qoh]

Not a dot

 

[whitemonster6]

This is a continuation of my last thread regarding roids.

Bonesmashing doesn't work. Roiding doesn't change the facial structure.

Nobody had results with it, Loox doesn't count because he had other procedures done. Show me only one before and after of bonesmashing changing the face. I'm not saying it doesn't work because nobody had results with it, they don't work because the concept itself of "growing" the bone is flawed...

looksmax.org

Average thread nowadays:

View attachment 3658849

---

I'm seeing more and more users on here that want to roid for the purpose of enhancing their facial bones.

For most people that wouldn't even work, especially for the ones after 14/15.

The body has its own regulatory mechanisms that prevent any supraphysiological growth, even @Seth Walsh talked about that years ago. IGF-1's binding proteins prevent any excess growth for example.

There also isn't a single case where roiding really improved the facial bones, if IFBB pros that use grams of gear don't experience any facial bone growth do you think some beginner cycle could result in that?

Also no, it isn't worth a try. It is absolutely retarded to roid as you are exchanging your health, looks, money, time and effort for almost no ROI.

I'll explain each real risk below:

1. Health.​

Especially oral roids completely nuke your lipids and cardiovascular health, if you have any health condition you are fucked.

Also people on roids are only able to have daughters, give up your dream to raise a son already. You'll only have a daughter you'll feed and raise for 16 years, until she gets gangbanged by low iq subhumans.

There are tons of other side effects I won't even list, just look at the global causes of death and now multiply your chances of getting each single one of them by 100.

2. Looks.​

If you aren't using tons of ancillaries to prevent any side effects, which can also become costly fast, you fuck your looks too.

If you believe that hair is life, you should stay the fuck away from roids. No, if you are anything above NW1 Finasteride and Dutasteride won't be enough to save you afterwards. Roiding will accelerate your hair loss by a lot.

Not even speaking of the sides of inhibiting 5AR, your mental drive, penis development, erections and other physiological processes will be reduced or stunted. If you want to use 5ARIs later in life sure, but you really want to start using them that early?

3. Money.​

Most users don't have any money to spend in the first place, you'd need to invest atleast 200-300 bucks for a good cycle. Also coming off is pretty hard, you'd have to titrate dosages down for a few months depending on the compounds used, run a full PCT which has a lot of side effects too and pray your HPTA-Axis comes back to baseline.

Also the blood tests you have to do before, during and after a cycle can cost a lot too. Good luck financing that and explaining to your parents why you want to check your bloods every few months. The average cost of these blood tests can vary between 100-300$+ depending on what you want to check.

4. Time.​

Good luck trying to source everything in the first place and paying online with crypto, gymcelling 6+ times a week and researching the compounds you need to use. Spoiler: Most things you hear about roids are straight up wrong. If you aren't willing to research countless hours before injecting hormones into your body don't even think about starting.

Also better find a hiding spot for your roids, regarding the peptides you'd have to cool them in your fridge.

5. Effort.​

If you aren't planning to completely lock in with your diet and training don't go on this website at this point, most of these kids that want to start roids aren't even lean in the first place.

Good luck eating low calories sometimes, going to the gym 6 times a week even if you don't have the time, doing hard workouts and getting the work done for years. There is a reason why most gymcels on roids look like shit.

---

Now you maybe asking yourself "Then what should I do instead?"

Train natty for a year and you don't have to worry about all this shit. After that year of training and lean bulking, just shred down to 8-10% bodyfat and you are pretty much "looksmaxxed". If you don't even want to do that, seriously don't think about roids.

Stop overcomplicating things, literally just get lean. It's one of the only things that actually make a difference.

Regarding facial bones the answer is simple: Just get either implants or osteotomies depending on your case.

---

Spoiler: TL;DR

Read the thread faggot, you don't get high effort threads every day on here.
View attachment 3658968

@chadisbeingmade @wishIwasSalludon @JohnBaza @PsychoH @menas

yeah just sybau 0 research linked %100 normie knowledge

Imagine not roiding

What is your fucking excuse >muh gymcelling cope >muh aging GHK, tretinoin + cope >muh hariloss dutasteride + RU >muh fertility HMG and HCG >muh BP cardio and beta blockers >muh lipids SR9009, slashes lipids by 50% Cost isn't issue, I have an infinite supply of all the aforementioned products...

looksmax.org

 

[It'snotover]

This is a continuation of my last thread regarding roids.

Bonesmashing doesn't work. Roiding doesn't change the facial structure.

Nobody had results with it, Loox doesn't count because he had other procedures done. Show me only one before and after of bonesmashing changing the face. I'm not saying it doesn't work because nobody had results with it, they don't work because the concept itself of "growing" the bone is flawed...

looksmax.org

Average thread nowadays:

View attachment 3658849

---

I'm seeing more and more users on here that want to roid for the purpose of enhancing their facial bones.

For most people that wouldn't even work, especially for the ones after 14/15.

The body has its own regulatory mechanisms that prevent any supraphysiological growth, even @Seth Walsh talked about that years ago. IGF-1's binding proteins prevent any excess growth for example.

There also isn't a single case where roiding really improved the facial bones, if IFBB pros that use grams of gear don't experience any facial bone growth do you think some beginner cycle could result in that?

Also no, it isn't worth a try. It is absolutely retarded to roid as you are exchanging your health, looks, money, time and effort for almost no ROI.

I'll explain each real risk below:

1. Health.​

Especially oral roids completely nuke your lipids and cardiovascular health, if you have any health condition you are fucked.

Also people on roids are only able to have daughters, give up your dream to raise a son already. You'll only have a daughter you'll feed and raise for 16 years, until she gets gangbanged by low iq subhumans.

There are tons of other side effects I won't even list, just look at the global causes of death and now multiply your chances of getting each single one of them by 100.

2. Looks.​

If you aren't using tons of ancillaries to prevent any side effects, which can also become costly fast, you fuck your looks too.

If you believe that hair is life, you should stay the fuck away from roids. No, if you are anything above NW1 Finasteride and Dutasteride won't be enough to save you afterwards. Roiding will accelerate your hair loss by a lot.

Not even speaking of the sides of inhibiting 5AR, your mental drive, penis development, erections and other physiological processes will be reduced or stunted. If you want to use 5ARIs later in life sure, but you really want to start using them that early?

3. Money.​

Most users don't have any money to spend in the first place, you'd need to invest atleast 200-300 bucks for a good cycle. Also coming off is pretty hard, you'd have to titrate dosages down for a few months depending on the compounds used, run a full PCT which has a lot of side effects too and pray your HPTA-Axis comes back to baseline.

Also the blood tests you have to do before, during and after a cycle can cost a lot too. Good luck financing that and explaining to your parents why you want to check your bloods every few months. The average cost of these blood tests can vary between 100-300$+ depending on what you want to check.

4. Time.​

Good luck trying to source everything in the first place and paying online with crypto, gymcelling 6+ times a week and researching the compounds you need to use. Spoiler: Most things you hear about roids are straight up wrong. If you aren't willing to research countless hours before injecting hormones into your body don't even think about starting.

Also better find a hiding spot for your roids, regarding the peptides you'd have to cool them in your fridge.

5. Effort.​

If you aren't planning to completely lock in with your diet and training don't go on this website at this point, most of these kids that want to start roids aren't even lean in the first place.

Good luck eating low calories sometimes, going to the gym 6 times a week even if you don't have the time, doing hard workouts and getting the work done for years. There is a reason why most gymcels on roids look like shit.

---

Now you maybe asking yourself "Then what should I do instead?"

Train natty for a year and you don't have to worry about all this shit. After that year of training and lean bulking, just shred down to 8-10% bodyfat and you are pretty much "looksmaxxed". If you don't even want to do that, seriously don't think about roids.

Stop overcomplicating things, literally just get lean. It's one of the only things that actually make a difference.

Regarding facial bones the answer is simple: Just get either implants or osteotomies depending on your case.

---

Spoiler: TL;DR

Read the thread faggot, you don't get high effort threads every day on here.
View attachment 3658968

@chadisbeingmade @wishIwasSalludon @JohnBaza @PsychoH @menas

Good thread, most people won't see facial bones growth from them because genetically their bones aren't sensitive to androgens in the first place imo, and professional bodybuilders don't show much change after decades of blasting except looking bald oldcels, as always surgery is the besr way to fix bone structure. And most jaw gains are just masseter growth on cycle.

 

[Jihadist Euro]

Damn no Gh 5iu ed + ai for me any soon