IF YOU ARE UNDER 5'9 THERE IS NO HOPE

[ferfdd]

If you are under 5'9 there is simply no point in looksmaxxing. Chances are, if you hardmax to your maximum potential you can end up to be a mtn to htn facially. And that is best case. However, unless you have 100k to spend to LL and unless you wanna have difficulty walking for the rest of your life you cannot increase you height. That means you will always be mogged by a 6ft2+ mtn+. Any foid at a club or a bar will notice the 6ft2 guy before you. You are simply less imposing and less attractive because of your height. coupled with the fact that your frame will be smaller since frame is proportional to height. If you are under 5'9 it is simply over, you will never be chad and never have girls get wet at the thought of getting dicked down by you, instead they will be thinking about 6ft5 chad with wide as fuck shoulders.

You will literally never have the respect and aura that you would get as a tall man. People will take you less seriously and believe you are a less of man. Life is so cruel towards short men, it is basically treated as a disability.

I'm 4 11 at 15

 

[Chadethnic101]

I’m 5ft8 and dated a 5ft10 girl for a year now lol
Yeah facially I am Chadlite but I’m manlet so it’s over apparently

 

[Deleted member 46108]

Just accept the fucking fact that you will never be desireable to any attractive women because all they want to think about is getting bent over and passionately fucked slowly and deeply by the hard throbbing cock of a 6ft4 man

I'm 6'6 but height doesnt do shit for me cus im subhuman, ik height definately helps but face matters more in my opinion

 

[GRINCHN’4$URGERY]

Just accept the fucking fact that you will never be desireable to any attractive women because all they want to think about is getting bent over and passionately fucked slowly and deeply by the hard throbbing cock of a 6ft4 male

my 5’10 buddy was just sexually harassed by a female and i had another try to eat my face off at a bar the other day at just under 5’11. i think maybe you need to go outside more?

 

[GRINCHN’4$URGERY]

I never grouped 5 ft 7. I said 5 ft 9 to 6 ft 2. Ideal is 5 ft 10 to 6 ft 1, both 6 ft 2 and 5 ft 9 are stretching it. I'm just saying 6 ft 3+ is not as good as people.here portray it to be. It's only slightly better than 5 ft 8.

if have to agree because i truly haven’t seen any IRL empirical evidence (club bar etc) to refute you. the only thing that comes to mind is the 7 foot antifa dude who had the foids going crazy in yt comments

 

[FosterCerrano]

unless you have 100k to spend to LL and unless you wanna have difficulty walking for the rest of your life you cannot increase you height.

It is possible to regain complete leg functionality after leg lengthening surgery, if one does their PT correctly.

 

[coke]

Uh, you realise male runway models have to be 6'+ foot by default? Doesn't seem to limit agencies in their selection.

Also, the guys this forum fellates:
David Gandy 6'2-6'3.
Francisco Lachowski 6'3.
Henry Cavill 6'1.
Sean O'Pry 6'1.
Jordan Barett 6'2.
Jon Kortajarena 6'2.

Lots of exceptions, aren't there?

I don't debate face > height, but I heavily doubt there's negative correlation between these two. There might even be a positive one up to a certain point (like 6'4).

I think a lot of you don't understand how truly rare it is to be tall as-well. Most of these models are actually around 5'11 - 6'0, the claims of 6'1+ tend to be them in cuban heels/shoe lifts. I'm a photographer and have worked with a few agencies now, one of the 6'1 guys I photographed was my height (5'10).

Here is Jordan Barrett with 6'0 celebheights listed Sean O'Pry.

My older brother is a legit barefoot 6'4 and he looks like an absolute freak of nature, I've never photographed a model taller than him, people guess he's around 6'7. The amount of 6'0 guys he's met claiming 6'4 is incredible, then when he says ''I'm 6'4'' they are like ''No! You're like 6'8'' he's about a head bigger than them too whilst they are closer to my height (Again, I'm 5'10).

Only 1.1% of men are 6′4″ or taller in the US.
If you are 6'2, you are taller than 94% of men in the world

so obviously yes, it's a halo to be like 6'2+, but most people aren't that so these claims of 6'2+ guys in the club, it's super unlikely. If you're 5'11, you're taller than 75% of men in America,

If you're 5'9-5'11, you'll look a natural height, you won't appear short in a club, you'll be taller than some males, shorter than others, but not drastically taller or drastically shorter.

If you're 5'7 - 5'8, you'll look bang average, you won't look short, but won't have any height halo at all, some guys will be taller than you, most the same height, but very few shorter. You won't be height mogged though.

If you're 5'5 or less, you're going to be height mogged, because you're shorter than 92% of males in America. This is the only real height that genuinely has impactful issues for men.

Remember, most of the guys you meet claiming 5'9 are 5'7, most of the guys claiming 6'0 are 5'10, most of the guys claiming 6'4 are about 6'0 lol

 

[NattyMikeO]

These debates are so fucking garbage. I am 6f5 and 33 yr old, all my friends are ltn-htn and between 5'8 and 6'2. I have a lot of experience so let me tell you what I saw for me and my friends depending on our height/looks level.

Face is fucking king, being very tall is decent halo if you have a good frame and not subhuman in the face. Maybe go up a level like MTN to HTN but that's it. Significant failo under 5'8, or if not taller than the girl in heels. Death sentence if under 5'5 unless HTN face. And there's nothing else to it. Outliers exist, there will be exceptions ofc.

Only death sentence are the following:
-Below 5'5 with MTN or less face.
-micro dick
-severe mental illness
-subhuman face

Anything else is managable. But you need to stop being a chad worshipping cuck at some point and revise your standards..

 

[user123456]

6'5 looks fucking ugly lol. Ideal height for proportions is 5'10 ideal height for sex appeal is 6 foot

John zherka would be btohing without height and body

 

[johnrocksaints]

6'2 is below average

where do you live bro?

 

[Maalik]

These debates are so fucking garbage. I am 6f5 and 33 yr old, all my friends are ltn-htn and between 5'8 and 6'2. I have a lot of experience so let me tell you what I saw for me and my friends depending on our height/looks level.

Face is fucking king, being very tall is decent halo if you have a good frame and not subhuman in the face. Maybe go up a level like MTN to HTN but that's it. Significant failo under 5'8, or if not taller than the girl in heels. Death sentence if under 5'5 unless HTN face. And there's nothing else to it. Outliers exist, there will be exceptions ofc.

Only death sentence are the following:
-Below 5'5 with MTN or less face.
-micro dick
-severe mental illness
-subhuman face

Anything else is managable. But you need to stop being a chad worshipping cuck at some point and revise your standards..

The other death sentence is being 30+

 

[IAMNOTANINCEL]

Manlet cutoff is 5'7 that's average pretty much globally

 

[roping3264]

never ending face vs height debate

 

[roping3264]

These debates are so fucking garbage. I am 6f5 and 33 yr old, all my friends are ltn-htn and between 5'8 and 6'2. I have a lot of experience so let me tell you what I saw for me and my friends depending on our height/looks level.

Face is fucking king, being very tall is decent halo if you have a good frame and not subhuman in the face. Maybe go up a level like MTN to HTN but that's it. Significant failo under 5'8, or if not taller than the girl in heels. Death sentence if under 5'5 unless HTN face. And there's nothing else to it. Outliers exist, there will be exceptions ofc.

Only death sentence are the following:
-Below 5'5 with MTN or less face.
-micro dick
-severe mental illness
-subhuman face

Anything else is managable. But you need to stop being a chad worshipping cuck at some point and revise your standards..

nah this is bluepill cope nothing can save below 5'6 at west or burgerland

 

[NattyMikeO]

nah this is bluepill cope nothing can save below 5'6 at west or burgerland

Yeah yeah its fucking rough all around, you need a way above average face. I might have been a bit too generous, its just a point of saying it is possible, but I know its nightmare mode.

The other death sentence is being 30+

Yeah yeah no girl above 25 is worth having a relationship or even a ONS with. Sure bud.

 

[Maalik]

Yeah yeah its fucking rough all around, you need a way above average face. I might have been a bit too generous, its just a point of saying it is possible, but I know its nightmare mode.

Yeah yeah no girl above 25 is worth having a relationship or even a ONS with. Sure bud.

there was a user here at 5,3 (ai Impact) who would post daily slay stories Lol.

 

[Maalik]

never ending face vs height debate

Lol
Looksmaxxers who have Cody Winters face and a 5,5 height barking at each other about which is better will never not be funny