If you have wide jaw and zygos, you need to lose fat ASAP

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I’m at around 15-17% bf and I suffer from the brutality of the wide features making me look netonous asf from it

Lean is law, but it is especially if your midface is shorter and your jaw and zygomatic bones are wide.

If you’re not lean, you will look like a babycel
 
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over for brachycephal cels
 
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I’m at around 15-17% bf and I suffer from the brutality of the wide features making me look netonous asf from it

Lean is law, but it is especially if your midface is shorter and your jaw and zygomatic bones are wide.

If you’re not lean, you will look like a babycel
It was never Abt the bf brother. Cutting 20 pounds is still gonna leave your jaw and zygo region the exact same length unless your mordibdly obese
 
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over for brachycephal cels
My skull is legit tall but I have a short midface and wide jaw and zygos so I still suffer from the fallo jfl
 
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It was never Abt the bf brother. Cutting 20 pounds is still gonna leave your jaw and zygo region the exact same length unless your mordibdly obese
You will look like a round baby because of the cheek fat, thats the point

Netonouscel
 
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You will look like a round baby because of the cheek fat, thats the point

Netonouscel
I see well the "roundness" of the face comes from big massaters and inward gonions. It's not the fat unless your 20%+ bf
 
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I see well the "roundness" of the face comes from big massaters and inward gonions. It's not the fat unless your 20%+ bf
Inward gonions yeah I agree

I suffer from a small case of bruxism but still think that my masseters arent beyond fucked because I rarely have to compensate

Barrett for example when he looks fat, he REALLY looks fat
 
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Inward gonions yeah I agree

I suffer from a small case of bruxism but still think that my masseters arent beyond fucked because I rarely have to compensate

Barrett for example when he looks fat, he REALLY looks fat
Yeah I have the same issue my masseters are to big and my zygos are to wide. So when I go above 20% my face looks obese. I have to stay lean and tera delbloated. Its bc us ethnic have really wide faces @Klasik616
 
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Yeah I have the same issue my masseters are to big and my zygos are to wide. So when I go above 20% my face looks obese. I have to stay lean and tera delbloated. Its bc us ethnic have really wide faces @Klasik616
My issue is that my midface legit the biggest cucker for my harmony, I’d have such good harmony if my midface was even just a little taller jfl

I have tall skull but it appears short because of my midface (also kinda because I have fangs to hide forehead acne but that’s another story)
 
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My issue is that my midface legit the biggest cucker for my harmony, I’d have such good harmony if my midface was even just a little taller jfl

I have tall skull but it appears short because of my midface (also kinda because I have fangs to hide forehead acne but that’s another story)
I feel u its just your pheno. Is your midfacee problem due to your eye setness or lip setness?
 
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I’m at around 15-17% bf and I suffer from the brutality of the wide features making me look netonous asf from it

Lean is law, but it is especially if your midface is shorter and your jaw and zygomatic bones are wide.

If you’re not lean, you will look like a babycel
i dont have a wide jaw but mogger masseters and when i get high bf they just blend in with the fat making me look bloated i have to be lean to maintain the mogger look
 
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I feel u its just your pheno. Is your midfacee problem due to your eye setness or lip setness?
My philtrum is ideal length at 1.5 cm and my ipd is around 67mm (2mm from ideal but not bad tbh)

It’s likely the eye setness, my forehead appears big but it fits four fingers, wouldve benefited from a small forehead since I’m a fangs merchant jfl

The nasal base probably the issue too tbh
 
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My face is very wide
 
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i sadly don't
 
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My philtrum is ideal length at 1.5 cm and my ipd is around 67mm (2mm from ideal but not bad tbh)

It’s likely the eye setness, my forehead appears big but it fits four fingers, wouldve benefited from a small forehead since I’m a fangs merchant jfl

The nasal base probably the issue too tbh
I see, then yeah there's nothing u can really do Abt it then bro. What's your harmony score?
 
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If this were real all Latinos would be htn
 
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I see, then yeah there's nothing u can really do Abt it then bro. What's your harmony score?
Don’t know how to score tbh, I only know how to measure jfl
 
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Don’t know how to score tbh, I only know how to measure jfl
U gotta add up all your ratios and then divide it by 33 (those are all the face ratios I think) then divide it by 3
 
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U gotta add up all your ratios and then divide it by 33 (those are all the face ratios I think) then divide it by 3
Don’t different ratios have different weights 🤔
 
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My side is good but my front is bad because my face looks too big
 
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Don’t different ratios have different weights 🤔
No it just depends on there level severity Wich will play in to one of your numbers
 
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My side is good but my front is bad because my face looks too big
Same except my side is ass. I have a dog face side bc my maxilla is projected but my chin is reccesed and I have a short ramus brutal
 
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No. I asked Pagnoni he told me I don't need bimax
It was never Abt the jaw its just how wide your face is I have somewhat of the same issues except my fwhr is normal
 
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It was never Abt the jaw its just how wide your face is I have somewhat of the same issues except my fwhr is normal
I have a wide face yes. But sfs is literally a syndrome.
 
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You most likely need bone shaving ngl
A gook clinic told me the same thing

 
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What defines sfs in your case
 
Idk girls says to me that i have to sharp face and i should gain weight while im 20% bf
 
What defines sfs for u
Short fwhr short tfhwr wich is what zeta has. That's why despite having masculine features he looks like a kid
 
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Idk girls says to me that i have to sharp face and i should gain weight while im 20% bf
You probably smile/smirk a lot

I look like a total skull mogger when I smirk for example
 
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depends on fat around orbitals
 
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depends on fat around orbitals
I have the worst orbital fat pads so I have no issue with that jfl (one day I vill fat graft 😻)

Also orbital fat is one of the last fat to be lost if you already have orbital fat
 
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Not neccesrly certain pheno types alr have sfs. Like zeta for example he has sfs
how much of a failo is a narrow jaw? like depoots,archie

like ik u mentioned solutions for inward gonions amd asseteer, but like if thats a later resort, what cna make up for that
 
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i have wide zygos but no jaw
 
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how much of a failo is a narrow jaw? like depoots,archie

like ik u mentioned solutions for inward gonions amd asseteer, but like if thats a later resort, what cna make up for that
It really depends on how narrow

You might either need bimax or simply jaw implants depending on how narrow

Dont Try masseter training btw, it will bloat your ass to sub humanity
 
how much of a failo is a narrow jaw? like depoots,archie

like ik u mentioned solutions for inward gonions amd asseteer, but like if thats a later resort, what cna make up for that
Its a really big falio. Can fuck your harmony by 10-20% depending on the severity and it also removes a lot of Dimo
 
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I have wide zygos and narrow jaw. When I'm low bf, I look like mongol with horse face. I would need 5kg of titanium implants to look decent, but no money for such shit.
 
I have wide zygos and narrow jaw. When I'm low bf, I look like mongol with horse face. I would need 5kg of titanium implants to look decent, but no money for such shit.
Moneymaxx big boy
 
I see well the "roundness" of the face comes from big massaters and inward gonions. It's not the fat unless your 20%+ bf
Finally someone understands what I’ve been saying all this time :love:

I’m tired of the “just lose fat to ascend” niggas
 
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Finally someone understands what I’ve been saying all this time :love:

I’m tired of the “just lose fat to ascend” niggas
Ain't no soul training masseters to fix their gonions to let the great bloat arrive

Would just wait for fillers ngl
 
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Ain't no soul training masseters to fix their gonions to let the great bloat arrive

Would just wait for fillers ngl
I am actually because I have small masseters and to some degree masseter growth is good, but I will stop and slow down soon
 
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I am actually because I have small masseters and to some degree masseter growth is good, but I will stop and slow down soon
My bigonial to bizygo is 0.86 so its already wide

I just dont necessarily have flared gonions,.I dont even try to train them tbh

Fillers or a simple ramus lengthening+gonial flaring implant would ascend
 
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