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If you're depressed because of your looks, this is for you. :) All praise be to Allah.


Introduction: Looks isn't everything in life.

This isn't a post meant to cope or whatever. The :blackpill: is true, only in the sense that people will generally perceive you better or worse on a surface, immediate level depending on your looks. This post is simply to show you that looks isn't as important as you've been brainwashed to believe it is.

If you genuinely believe you're ugly, then it's probably true that you're not the best looking in terms of attraction. But is it actually that bad?
Everyone is given a different test from Allah in the form of beauty and ugliness, health, wealth and poverty, and success and failure in the Dunya. You potentially being unattractive is just one of them.

No one is denying that a woman will be more likely to love you if you're more objectively attractive. Tall, better frame, better face or whatnot. Does that mean you should obsess over what you can't control? No.

Allah says (what means):

“15. And as for man, when his Lord tries him and [thus] is generous to him and favors him, he says, "My Lord has honored me."

16. But when He tries him and restricts his provision, he says, "My Lord has humiliated me."


- Surah al Fajr, 15-16

The ill would say: why have You made me ill and saved the people? The poor would say: Why have you made me poor and made others wealthy? Those being tried would say: Why are you trying me and left others in a good state?

The believer is to be pleased, observe patience and anticipate reward while others become annoyed with and complain about their Lord.

Do you not realize that you have two eyes with which you can see while millions cannot even see??

Do you not see that you are able to walk on your own two feet, you go and come wherever you wish while an infinite number of people are paralyzed and disabled??

Let’s say you lost all that; do you not realize Allah’s favour of Islam upon you, and that He chose you for this great favour (which all the pleasures of the earth cannot equal) over most of the creation who do not believe in Allah. On the Day of Resurrection, eternal paradise is yours, In sha Allah.

Even if you didn't get married in the Dunya, a minimum of two wives better than anything you know await you in Jannah, according to the most correct opinion.


What to do if you're genetically ugly in the Dunya.

Assuming you've done everything possible to Softmaxx (since Hardmaxxing is generally forbidden without a valid health or extreme visual defect reason), let's talk about marriage. Firstly, just as a side note, you should be completely lowering your gaze from women, and fasting to prevent lust if you're not already married.
Now, to start off with, the Blackpillers will show you videos of men getting rejected or fawned over based on varying looks and characteristics, or statistics from modernised societies or full on dating sites. Is any of that stuff, the free mixing, dating, or looking with desire before marriage, halal to begin with? No. These are the things the KUFFAR seek.

Sure, a kaafir girl who free mixes 24/7 and never lowers her gaze and looks at men with lust will care mostly about your physical looks over anything. Her love will depend on it, and she won't truly care about you if you're ugly if that's what her values are.

Is that the kind of partner a pious, religious man or woman wants though? No.

Al-Bukhari (4802) and Muslim (1466) from Abu Hurayrah (may Allah be pleased with him) from the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) who said: “A woman may be married for four things : her wealth, her lineage, her beauty and her religious commitment. Seek the one who is religiously committed, may your hands be rubbed with dust (i.e., may you prosper).”

As much as people here might cope and cry because of their experiences with the Kuffar, Wallahi, with a truly pious woman and ideal Believing spouse, your personality and religion is more important than your looks. I say this as someone who's not really objectively attractive on the Blackpill scale, and it's okay. FYI I'm bengali too, which they probably call "currycel" or something here. I'm doing just fine in life with a beautiful, beautiful wife (a "Giga Stacy" in brainrot terms), who lowers her gaze, has been wearing a niqab and gloves covering virtually every single inch of her body since 12, etc. FYI, we both grew up in the west as well. I'm completely average, and we have a very intimate relationship, and we plan to have like 20 children. I'm 16 by the way. How is that possible !?

If a woman genuinely cares about your looks that much, she isn't worried about the future and a realistic marriage. That is a red flag anyway, and only a pious woman will actually make you happy. Don't marry them for their looks, unless you want to be eventually depressed. Look for an obedient spouse who fears Allah.

To enhance this point further and show that it's possible for ANYONE no matter how "chopped" you are, think about the story of Julaybib. He was known to be a very short and physically ugly man, and no one from the Ansar accepted him. Everyone bullied him and he didn't even have respect from the men. This was until the prophet, upon him be peace, found out about him and suggested a woman from the city to marry him. Matter of fact, this woman was known to be one of, if not, the most beautiful in the city. She was incredibly pious and religiously virtuous, and said yes to marrying him, due to Julaybib's piety. She didn't worry about his looks. This was even after her own mother vouched against Julaybib and was repelled about the idea - the woman could have said no and used her parents as an excuse if she wanted to, but she chose the pious man at the end. Julaybib, may he rest with Allah, later died a shaheed after taking down 7 of the kuffar with him.

There is hope for literally anyone. Worship your Lord, Softmaxx if you can, and just focus on other areas of life that you can control and that are actually important. In summary, be grateful for what you already have and focus on what you can control. Make lots of dua to Allah to raise your status in the Hereafter because that is more important, but also for Rizq (sustenance) and ease in the Dunya. Your attractiveness level is just a test from Allah if it's bad, but Wallahi there is hope anyway. Blackpill is based on kaafir women, and no one cares about westernised hoejabis.

May Allah bless you and guide you.

A final optional story to read to accommodate the virtue of a grateful Slave of Allah.

Al-Awza’i narrates from ‘Abdullah ibn Muhammad that he said:

I went out to the shore as a patrolman and our patrol at the time was in ‘Areesh Misr. When I arrived at the shore, I came upon an open area and there was tent on it. In the tent was a man who had no hands and legs and he was hard of hearing and sight. None of his limbs were of benefit to him but his tongue, and was saying: O Allah, grant me (the ability) to praise you a praise through which I can sufficiently thank You for the favours You have bestowed upon me and by which You have preferred me over many whom You have created a great preference.

Al-Awza’I said: ‘Abdulla said: By Allah, I will certainly go to this man and I shall certainly ask him about this speech. An understanding, or knowledge or inspiration which was inspired to him?

So I approached the man and greeted him and said to him: I heard you and you were saying: O Allah, grant me (the ability) to praise you a praise through which I can sufficiently thank You for the favours You have bestowed upon me and by which You have preferred me over many whom You have created a great preference.; so what favour from the favours of Allah upon you are you praising Him for? And in what way did He prefer you over others a great preference that you need to thank Him for it? He said: Don’t you see what my Lord has done? By Allah, if He sent the sky to me as a fire which burned me, or ordered the mountains to crush me, or the oceans to drown me, or the earth to swallow me up; it would only cause me to be more grateful to my Lord for the favour of this tongue He bestowed upon me.
 
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Why didn't your retarded ass god make you all chadlite? I thought he loved you and was all powerful, but he can't even do that what a fucking retard
 
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Bro trying to improve yourself facially is not against anything in islam
 
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Why didn't your retarded ass god make you all chadlite? I thought he loved you and was all powerful, but he can't even do that what a fucking retard
I can see that you didn't read, dumbass nigga.
 
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Bro trying to improve yourself facially is not against anything in islam
Literally never said this. I in fact encouraged it. Please read the post before commenting.
 
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I can see that you didn't read, dumbass nigga.
Yeah question still stands muzzie, why didn't your retard god make you chad? He doesn't love you obviously. Or he just doesn't exist
 
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Yeah question still stands muzzie, why didn't your retard god make you chad? He doesn't love you obviously. Or he just doesn't exist
Because the life is a test, everybody is not equal and they are testwd for what they have or what they lack.

A beautiful person who is arrogant of his beauty, is a test for him.

An ugly person who is not ungrateful, is a test for him.

Allah will deal with all of us justly compensating us for what we lacked in equity of the test, not equality.

The test of the poor, and the rich is not the same.

Neither is of the man and the woman.
 
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Because the life is a test
Yeah you say this all the time, sorry but your god is omniscient. He knows the result of the test before it happens. Try again dumbass
 
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Yeah question still stands muzzie, why didn't your retard god make you chad? He doesn't love you obviously. Or he just doesn't exist
Beauty is a test just like every other factor in life. It can even be a preventor of fornication before marriage. Maybe if you read, like, the first 5 sentences, you would see what I'm trying to say.
 
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Beauty is a test just like every other factor in life. It can even be a preventor of fornication before marriage. Maybe if you read, like, the first 5 sentences, you would see what I'm trying to say.
"Yeah you say this all the time, sorry but your god is omniscient. He knows the result of the test before it happens. Try again dumbass"
 
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Yeah you say this all the time, sorry but your god is omniscient. He knows the result of the test before it happens. Try again dumbass
He knows the result but the test has to happen for punishment and reward to be justified.


If I were put in hell, and the reason was "Because I know you'll fail the test" then I'd talk to Allah and ask, "This is not fair, if the test hasn't even happened yet".


If he is All-Just, then he cannot punish me without testing me.
 
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"Yeah you say this all the time, sorry but your god is omniscient. He knows the result of the test before it happens. Try again dumbass"
Predestination is based on a reflection of your own choices, smartass.
 
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Not a Muzzie, but seems like a quality post. Will bookmark for later
 
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If I were put in hell, and the reason was "Because I know you'll fail the test" then I'd talk to Allah and ask, "This is not fair, if the test hasn't even happened yet".
Yeah ik you always say the same exact things jfl. No because he's all powerful, so he could grant you that knowledge to know 100% you would have failed the test. Also you think regular people going to hell are saying "Oh ok that's perfectly fair allah, yeah send me to eternal suffering" No you fucking dumbass. EVERYONE would say it's not fair if they go to hell. Try again
 
Predestination is based on a reflection of your own choices, smartass.
Do you understand what the fuck omniscient means? He knows literally everything so he already knows exactly what you'll choose and your predestination. Or are you taking the position that allah is not omniscient? Because in that case, you're probably gonna get beheaded by traditional muzzies
 
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Yeah ik you always say the same exact things jfl. No because he's all powerful, so he could grant you that knowledge to know 100% you would have failed the test.
If he granted me knowledge to know 100% I'd have failed the test without even going through the test then, there would be no free will and I'd not be deserving of the punishment.

Even If I currently knew that I'd fail it but if i weren't granted even the PROBABILITY to pass it in the first place, then how would it be fair?
Also you think regular people going to hell are saying "Oh ok that's perfectly fair allah, yeah send me to eternal suffering" No you fucking dumbass. EVERYONE would say it's not fair if they go to hell. Try again
I didn't say that regular ppl will go to hell, but those that are deserving of it, strawmanning seems to be a habit of ppl here huh.


Try again.
 
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there would be no free will and I'd not be deserving of the punishment.
No there "would" have been free will if he god had let you be tested, but he didn't have to because the result would have been the same. You "would" still have gone through the test and done things deserving of punishment. God is actually being more merciful and loving here, because he spares others and yourself from going through a test meaning less suffering overall.
Even If I currently knew that I'd fail it but if i weren't granted even the PROBABILITY to pass it in the first place, then how would it be fair?
Because determinism is true and the probability to pass doesn't exist when Allah says it, your god is still omniscient retard. There is no probably, you'd just fail it 100% and the outcome of you going to hell would be the same. Only god spared you and others from suffering
I didn't say that regular ppl will go to hell, but those that are deserving of it, strawmanning seems to be a habit of ppl here huh.
Yeah so all kaffirs? You don't think average americans and europeans are just regular people?
 
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No there "would" have been free will if he god had let you be tested, but he didn't have to because the result would have been the same. You "would" still have gone through the test and done things deserving of punishment. God is actually being more merciful and loving here, because he spares others and yourself from going through a test meaning less suffering overall.
There "would" have been free will doesn't mean "there is".

It's not merciful if I'm being punished for something that is CERTAINLY destined to happen but has not happened yet.

If it has never happened but there is only knowledge of it and the punishment has been provided according to a scenario WHERE there SHOULD have been free will but has not occured yet, then there is no free will.
Because determinism is true
Said who and on what basis? you're a complete idiotic subhuman to me, I don't consider all your statements true.
and the probability to pass doesn't exist when Allah says it, your god is still omniscient retard. There is no probably, you'd just fail it 100% and the outcome of you going to hell would be the same. Only god spared you and others from suffering
but "if i weren't granted" even the ability to pass it in the first place.

whether the outcome is the same or not, does not affect the fact that one must be free willed for the outcome to be executed.

Your pseudo-intellectualism isn't gonna work here, retard.

Yeah so all kaffirs? You don't think average americans and europeans are just regular people?
Avg americans and Europeans are not necessarily Kafirs.

In Islam, you cannot explicitly say about anyone currently that he will NECESSARILY ho to hell or heaven unless they die upon it, i believe by regular ppl you're not talking about ppl who will die in the next milliseconds right? so no, I can't talk about their destination.
 
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No there "would" have been free will if he god had let you be tested, but he didn't have to because the result would have been the same. You "would" still have gone through the test and done things deserving of punishment. God is actually being more merciful and loving here, because he spares others and yourself from going through a test meaning less suffering overall.

Because determinism is true and the probability to pass doesn't exist when Allah says it, your god is still omniscient retard. There is no probably, you'd just fail it 100% and the outcome of you going to hell would be the same. Only god spared you and others from suffering

Yeah so all kaffirs? You don't think average americans and europeans are just regular people?
Your whole argument has a hidden presupposition that "Determinism" is true and that free will doesn't exist.


Which I don't believe in, and neither does any other Muslim so your argument renders useless.
 
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If it has never happened but there is only knowledge of it and the punishment has been provided according to a scenario WHERE there SHOULD have been free will but has not occured yet, then there is no free will.
Why does there need to be free will and why does it have to have temporally happened in order to be fair? I think it's totally fair that allah punishes you for something you 100% are going to do
Said who and on what basis? you're a complete idiotic subhuman to me, I don't consider all your statements true.
Most philosophers, based on logic. All of your choices happen due to neurochemical processes, therefore your "free will" is in fact physical. If it's physical, that means it follows a temporal chain. If it follows a temporal chain, that means we can trace it back to basically the big bang, that's determining the initial choice. Basically, you have the illusion of free will, but you're still choosing based on external factors
whether the outcome is the same or not, does not affect the fact that one must be free willed for the outcome to be executed.
Yeah and why does that need to happen? I don't see how it follows
Avg americans and Europeans are not necessarily Kafirs.
Alright sure but let's use fucking logic and basic rationalism instead of being ignorant and skeptic.
A majority of people are in fact not muslim. They will also die not muslim majorly. Now explain to me how all of those people wouldn't cry to god saying it's unfair
 
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Yeah ik you always say the same exact things jfl.


Asks twice : Are you a boy?

"yes", "absolutely".


> You always say the exact same things, absolute retard
 
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Your whole argument has a hidden presupposition that "Determinism" is true and that free will doesn't exist.


Which I don't believe in, and neither does any other Muslim so your argument renders useless.
No yeah i know that's because you're all low iq and retarded. You literally cannot disprove determinism. Are your choices temporally linked to external factors or not? If so, free will doesn't exist. This is not rocket science dude
 
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Asks twice : Are you a boy?

"yes", "absolutely".


> You always say the exact same things, absolute retard
Terrible analogy, because i can refute what you say in 2 seconds, i can't refute you being a boy
 
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Good thread
The last person in the story was Abu Qilabah a companion of Ibn Abbas
 
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Why does there need to be free will and why does it have to have temporally happened in order to be fair?

Because something that hasn't happened but is destined to happen would not satisfy the souls that are being punished with the fact that they deserve what they are going through.

Free will is for the justification of what you're receiving.


I think it's totally fair that allah punishes you for something you 100% are going to do
"I think -" Just because you think so, doesn't mean it's the truth and you have failed to provide an argument as to why you think so.


Most philosophers, based on logic.

You've spoken a statement of ignorance, "many" yes, but "most", no.

There are also many that don't believe in determinism so what about them?

Looks like we're now gonna start fabricating evidence for arguments huh?

I could expect it from someone who is as dumb as you, retarded imbecile.
All of your choices happen due to neurochemical processes, therefore your "free will" is in fact physical. If it's physical, that means it follows a temporal chain. If it follows a temporal chain, that means we can trace it back to basically the big bang, that's determining the initial choice. Basically, you have the illusion of free will, but you're still choosing based on external factors
There's a hidden materialistic presupposition in this argument which is that everything that exists is physical, which is an assumption and is not a proven fact but rather a philosophical position.

Unless you can prove that, then your argument is useless.

Yeah and why does that need to happen? I don't see how it follows
How does it follow that in the case of all knowledgeability, free will's death and punishement is justifiable even when the action hasn't occurred?

Retard.
Alright sure but let's use fucking logic and basic rationalism instead of being ignorant and skeptic.
A majority of people are in fact not muslim. They will also die not muslim majorly. Now explain to me how all of those people wouldn't cry to god saying it's unfair
In Islam, it is not allowed to assume that.

We cannot say that the majority will die upon disbelief.


But let's just assume they will, if they do, it wouldn't be unfair because

1. You had free will to choose between sin and good.

2. Islam reached you and you rejected it.

[ If islam hadn't reached him then he will have a separate test in the afterlife ].


Why would a killer cry about it being unfair if he has fucking killed lol? He would cry but in his heart, he knows he is guilty.
 
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Terrible analogy, because i can refute what you say in 2 seconds, i can't refute you being a boy
in 2 seconds, yet the only arguments you provided were those which had implicit presuppositions without which, there wouldn't hold any argument

try again retard
 
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No yeah i know that's because you're all low iq and retarded. You literally cannot disprove determinism. Are your choices temporally linked to external factors or not? If so, free will doesn't exist. This is not rocket science dude
not all choices are temporally dependent on "external factors", some are internally originated, even if they occur in time.

There lies a cup on the ground,

It is completely in an empty ground and you come across it.

Now you have let's say a few choices, two of them are.

1. you pick it up
2. you dont pick it up.


Can you prove that there is a NECESSITY tht you must PICK IT UP, OR MUST NOT.


Prove it?
 
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not all choices are temporally dependent on "external factors", some are internally originated, even if they occur in time.

There lies a cup on the ground,

It is completely in an empty ground and you come across it.

Now you have let's say a few choices, two of them are.

1. you pick it up
2. you dont pick it up.


Can you prove that there is a NECESSITY tht you must PICK IT UP, OR MUST NOT.


Prove it?

Logically, a necessity means only one outcome is possible.

But in this case, two outcomes were mentioned, and are logically possible picking it up or not so there is no logical necessity for either.


As you had claimed "muh logic" let's see you speak now you absolute retard
 
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Logically, a necessity means only one outcome is possible.

But in this case, two outcomes were mentioned, and are logically possible picking it up or not so there is no logical necessity for either.


As you had claimed "muh logic" let's see you speak now you absolute retard
Muh "most" philosophers :soy:

Just say that you're retarded and your arguments would fall apart if you didn't fabricate lies for its evidence.

Also tell me that you've no idea what philosophy is, since when is it a principle to believe in determinism if you wanna be a philosopher 😂😂😂..

For thousands of years, nobody in the philosophical world has been able to prove Determinism with CERTAINTY but now some random retard thinks otherwise, fucking subhuman.

Retard
 
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If you believe in the afterlife, then being incel isn’t that bad, because you know you can get compensation for this humiliation in the afterlife if you are a good muslim or christian or whatever one believes in. But most here are atheists, even the muslims are atheists and don’t really believe in paradise or hell, including me. In fact, most people don’t believe that, they just pretend to believe, so they don’t get wiped out of their religous parents or grandparents testament
 
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Al-Bukhari (4802) and Muslim (1466) from Abu Hurayrah (may Allah be pleased with him) from the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) who said: “A woman may be married for four things : her wealth, her lineage, her beauty and her religious commitment. Seek the one who is religiously committed, may your hands be rubbed with dust (i.e., may you prosper).”
You were based until you mentioned a statement of random arabs thats falsely associated with Allah’s level of divinity.
 
Because something that hasn't happened but is destined to happen would not satisfy the souls that are being punished with the fact that they deserve what they are going through.
Dude what? Again, name me anyone that would go to hell and just be like "Uh ok yeah fine allah, i guess i was a piece of shit make me suffer eternally"
"I think -" Just because you think so, doesn't mean it's the truth and you have failed to provide an argument as to why you think so.
I just made a moral statement jfl i don't believe in objective morality obviously. You're burden shifting here and misunderstanding what i said. "doesn't mean it's the truth" Implies i gave a truth claim, but i really didn't. I pretty clearly said i thought it was fair, that's it. Of course i actually don't think anything about hell is fair at all, but regardless
You've spoken a statement of ignorance, "many" yes, but "most", no.

There are also many that don't believe in determinism so what about them?

Looks like we're now gonna start fabricating evidence for arguments huh?
Alright fine i'll say most because it definitely is most. And those that don't "believe" in determinism are just retarded or compatibilists. Usually philosophers take either determinism or compatibilism to be true. Both of those mean the moral weight of free will is an illusion
There's a hidden materialistic presupposition in this argument which is that everything that exists is physical, which is an assumption and is not a proven fact but rather a philosophical position.

Unless you can prove that, then your argument is useless.
Great so then our argument ends because you can't prove otherwise either. It was absolutely an assumption, didn't think i would have to defend it but here we are. Yes everything that we can empirically observe is physical and material. We cannot verify anything metaphysical so we cannot presuppose the existence of it. We must presuppose materialism based on empiricism
How does it follow that in the case of all knowledgeability, free will's death and punishement is justifiable even when the action hasn't occurred?
Because what's the difference, you were going to commit those actions anyway.
But let's just assume they will, if they do, it wouldn't be unfair because

1. You had free will to choose between sin and good.

2. Islam reached you and you rejected it.

[ If islam hadn't reached him then he will have a separate test in the afterlife ].
Yeah so you're completely misunderstanding what i'm saying to you here. I'm saying THEY will interpret it as unfair, i don't care what god thinks. What god thinks is irrelevant, which is literally the position you took before when you require justification to be physically shown, instead of god just telling you "yeah youre a dickhead".
I know god thinks all people going to hell is fair, that's pretty basic logic. I was arguing that most of those people, will feel unfairly treated. Most of those people will say "bro what the fuck let me in".
 
Dude what? Again, name me anyone that would go to hell and just be like "Uh ok yeah fine allah, i guess i was a piece of shit make me suffer eternally"
That's not what I said, you're clearly retarded.

Your "heart" being satisfied with a punishment vs you actually wanting to be punished are two different things.

As I clearly said before in the analogy of a criminal, he does not WANT to be punished but he knows that he is GUILTY.


your pseudointellectualism has been made evident because all your arguments are presuppositions and strawmans, i wonder how dumb you actually are because this is basically just English grammar and analogies that you have failed to comprehend.1
I just made a moral statement jfl i don't believe in objective morality obviously. You're burden shifting here and misunderstanding what i said. "doesn't mean it's the truth" Implies i gave a truth claim, but i really didn't. I pretty clearly said i thought it was fair, that's it. Of course i actually don't think anything about hell is fair at all, but regardless
If you think that and also don't believe in objective morality, then don't talk about it.

If you think that it isn't the truth, then shut the fuck up retard why are you arguing?
Alright fine i'll say most because it definitely is most.
😂 bro thought i wouldnt catch it, absolute subhuman IQ.
And those that don't "believe" in determinism are just retarded or compatibilists.
Says who?

Who are you to decide? You literally fabricated lies, strawmanned arguments and lack basic comprehension.

You should be the last one to call someone retarded since you are borderline subhuman in terms of intelligence.
Usually philosophers take either determinism or compatibilism to be true. Both of those mean the moral weight of free will is an illusion
How is this relevant to the argument?

Keep running away from the actual topic.
Great so then our argument ends because you can't prove otherwise either. It was absolutely an assumption, didn't think i would have to defend it but here we are.
I can actually prove otherwise.

Since you talked about philosophy, let's see if you actually know anything.

Have you read the argument from contingency? The necessary being is not physical as a conclusion from that.

Unless you are able to disprove that the necessary being somehow doesn't exist, or is physical, which no philosopher has been able to do up until now.

And I assume you also are atheist? if yes, then prove to me how does something come from nothing

If no, then God cannot be contingent and thus cannot be physical and thus my point is proved that everyting that exists does not NECESSARILY need to be physical.
Yes everything that we can empirically observe is physical and material.
"Empirically observe is physical" assumes that everything that exists must be empirically observable.

Again, a presupposition that you've not backed.

Are you actually retarded or are you like ragebaiting?
Because what's the difference, you were going to commit those actions anyway.
Said who? what's the basis here?

It's "you" who said it without any argument to back it, so keep quiet because "you" are subhuman to me as I've previously said.

Just because you think so, doesn't make it true (Cry again by asserting that you didnt mean to claim truth so I can win the argument because if you aren't claiming the truth then why are you arguing)
Yeah so you're completely misunderstanding what i'm saying to you here. I'm saying THEY will interpret it as unfair, i don't care what god thinks. What god thinks is irrelevant, which is literally the position you took before when you require justification to be physically shown, instead of god just telling you "yeah youre a dickhead".
They won't think it is "unfair" but that it would be feel better if they weren't punished.

*Insert the analogy of the criminal*

Once again, since you lack basic comprehension.
I know god thinks all people going to hell is fair, that's pretty basic logic.
Said who?
"All ppl going to hell" Prove it

Or KEEP YOUR IGNORANCE ASIDE.
 
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That's not what I said, you're clearly retarded.

Your "heart" being satisfied with a punishment vs you actually wanting to be punished are two different things.

As I clearly said before in the analogy of a criminal, he does not WANT to be punished but he knows that he is GUILTY.


your pseudointellectualism has been made evident because all your arguments are presuppositions and strawmans, i wonder how dumb you actually are because this is basically just English grammar and analogies that you have failed to comprehend.1

If you think that and also don't believe in objective morality, then don't talk about it.

If you think that it isn't the truth, then shut the fuck up retard why are you arguing?

😂 bro thought i wouldnt catch it, absolute subhuman IQ.

Says who?

Who are you to decide? You literally fabricated lies, strawmanned arguments and lack basic comprehension.

You should be the last one to call someone retarded since you are borderline subhuman in terms of intelligence.

How is this relevant to the argument?

Keep running away from the actual topic.

I can actually prove otherwise.

Since you talked about philosophy, let's see if you actually know anything.

Have you read the argument from contingency? The necessary being is not physical as a conclusion from that.

Unless you are able to disprove that the necessary being somehow doesn't exist, or is physical, which no philosopher has been able to do up until now.

And I assume you also are atheist? if yes, then prove to me how does something come from nothing

If no, then God cannot be contingent and thus cannot be physical and thus my point is proved that everyting that exists does not NECESSARILY need to be physical.

"Empirically observe is physical" assumes that everything that exists must be empirically observable.

Again, a presupposition that you've not backed.

Are you actually retarded or are you like ragebaiting?

Said who? what's the basis here?

It's "you" who said it without any argument to back it, so keep quiet because "you" are subhuman to me as I've previously said.

Just because you think so, doesn't make it true (Cry again by asserting that you didnt mean to claim truth so I can win the argument because if you aren't claiming the truth then why are you arguing)

They won't think it is "unfair" but that it would be feel better if they weren't punished.

*Insert the analogy of the criminal*

Once again, since you lack basic comprehension.

Said who?
"All ppl going to hell" Prove it

Or KEEP YOUR IGNORANCE ASIDE.
It's surprising how you thought we would not argue the materialistic assumption SINCE IT LITERALLY IS THE BASIS OF DETERMINISM.

It makes you look like a pseudo intellectual who uses words that he doesn't know the meaning of.
 
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not all choices are temporally dependent on "external factors", some are internally originated, even if they occur in time.

There lies a cup on the ground,

It is completely in an empty ground and you come across it.

Now you have let's say a few choices, two of them are.

1. you pick it up
2. you dont pick it up.


Can you prove that there is a NECESSITY tht you must PICK IT UP, OR MUST NOT.


Prove it?
Reply to this as well btw, stop ignoring your kryptonites.
 
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I am muslim, but cope, cuz how will u get that pious religious perfect wife if you arent attractive? do u think she says in her mind: i'm gonna fuck this guy because hes religious or stable af? stop the delusion, no one is coming to help you, even god didnt give u the genes, its OVER :feelswhy::feelswhy::feelswhy: ?
 
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If you're depressed because of your looks, this is for you. :) All praise be to Allah.


Introduction: Looks isn't everything in life.

This isn't a post meant to cope or whatever. The :blackpill: is true, only in the sense that people will generally perceive you better or worse on a surface, immediate level depending on your looks. This post is simply to show you that looks isn't as important as you've been brainwashed to believe it is.

If you genuinely believe you're ugly, then it's probably true that you're not the best looking in terms of attraction. But is it actually that bad?
Everyone is given a different test from Allah in the form of beauty and ugliness, health, wealth and poverty, and success and failure in the Dunya. You potentially being unattractive is just one of them.

No one is denying that a woman will be more likely to love you if you're more objectively attractive. Tall, better frame, better face or whatnot. Does that mean you should obsess over what you can't control? No.

Allah says (what means):

“15. And as for man, when his Lord tries him and [thus] is generous to him and favors him, he says, "My Lord has honored me."

16. But when He tries him and restricts his provision, he says, "My Lord has humiliated me."


- Surah al Fajr, 15-16

The ill would say: why have You made me ill and saved the people? The poor would say: Why have you made me poor and made others wealthy? Those being tried would say: Why are you trying me and left others in a good state?

The believer is to be pleased, observe patience and anticipate reward while others become annoyed with and complain about their Lord.

Do you not realize that you have two eyes with which you can see while millions cannot even see??

Do you not see that you are able to walk on your own two feet, you go and come wherever you wish while an infinite number of people are paralyzed and disabled??

Let’s say you lost all that; do you not realize Allah’s favour of Islam upon you, and that He chose you for this great favour (which all the pleasures of the earth cannot equal) over most of the creation who do not believe in Allah. On the Day of Resurrection, eternal paradise is yours, In sha Allah.

Even if you didn't get married in the Dunya, a minimum of two wives better than anything you know await you in Jannah, according to the most correct opinion.


What to do if you're genetically ugly in the Dunya.

Assuming you've done everything possible to Softmaxx (since Hardmaxxing is generally forbidden without a valid health or extreme visual defect reason), let's talk about marriage. Firstly, just as a side note, you should be completely lowering your gaze from women, and fasting to prevent lust if you're not already married.
Now, to start off with, the Blackpillers will show you videos of men getting rejected or fawned over based on varying looks and characteristics, or statistics from modernised societies or full on dating sites. Is any of that stuff, the free mixing, dating, or looking with desire before marriage, halal to begin with? No. These are the things the KUFFAR seek.

Sure, a kaafir girl who free mixes 24/7 and never lowers her gaze and looks at men with lust will care mostly about your physical looks over anything. Her love will depend on it, and she won't truly care about you if you're ugly if that's what her values are.

Is that the kind of partner a pious, religious man or woman wants though? No.

Al-Bukhari (4802) and Muslim (1466) from Abu Hurayrah (may Allah be pleased with him) from the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) who said: “A woman may be married for four things : her wealth, her lineage, her beauty and her religious commitment. Seek the one who is religiously committed, may your hands be rubbed with dust (i.e., may you prosper).”

As much as people here might cope and cry because of their experiences with the Kuffar, Wallahi, with a truly pious woman and ideal Believing spouse, your personality and religion is more important than your looks. I say this as someone who's not really objectively attractive on the Blackpill scale, and it's okay. FYI I'm bengali too, which they probably call "currycel" or something here. I'm doing just fine in life with a beautiful, beautiful wife (a "Giga Stacy" in brainrot terms), who lowers her gaze, has been wearing a niqab and gloves covering virtually every single inch of her body since 12, etc. FYI, we both grew up in the west as well. I'm completely average, and we have a very intimate relationship, and we plan to have like 20 children. I'm 16 by the way. How is that possible !?

If a woman genuinely cares about your looks that much, she isn't worried about the future and a realistic marriage. That is a red flag anyway, and only a pious woman will actually make you happy. Don't marry them for their looks, unless you want to be eventually depressed. Look for an obedient spouse who fears Allah.

To enhance this point further and show that it's possible for ANYONE no matter how "chopped" you are, think about the story of Julaybib. He was known to be a very short and physically ugly man, and no one from the Ansar accepted him. Everyone bullied him and he didn't even have respect from the men. This was until the prophet, upon him be peace, found out about him and suggested a woman from the city to marry him. Matter of fact, this woman was known to be one of, if not, the most beautiful in the city. She was incredibly pious and religiously virtuous, and said yes to marrying him, due to Julaybib's piety. She didn't worry about his looks. This was even after her own mother vouched against Julaybib and was repelled about the idea - the woman could have said no and used her parents as an excuse if she wanted to, but she chose the pious man at the end. Julaybib, may he rest with Allah, later died a shaheed after taking down 7 of the kuffar with him.

There is hope for literally anyone. Worship your Lord, Softmaxx if you can, and just focus on other areas of life that you can control and that are actually important. In summary, be grateful for what you already have and focus on what you can control. Make lots of dua to Allah to raise your status in the Hereafter because that is more important, but also for Rizq (sustenance) and ease in the Dunya. Your attractiveness level is just a test from Allah if it's bad, but Wallahi there is hope anyway. Blackpill is based on kaafir women, and no one cares about westernised hoejabis.

May Allah bless you and guide you.

A final optional story to read to accommodate the virtue of a grateful Slave of Allah.

Al-Awza’i narrates from ‘Abdullah ibn Muhammad that he said:

I went out to the shore as a patrolman and our patrol at the time was in ‘Areesh Misr. When I arrived at the shore, I came upon an open area and there was tent on it. In the tent was a man who had no hands and legs and he was hard of hearing and sight. None of his limbs were of benefit to him but his tongue, and was saying: O Allah, grant me (the ability) to praise you a praise through which I can sufficiently thank You for the favours You have bestowed upon me and by which You have preferred me over many whom You have created a great preference.

Al-Awza’I said: ‘Abdulla said: By Allah, I will certainly go to this man and I shall certainly ask him about this speech. An understanding, or knowledge or inspiration which was inspired to him?

So I approached the man and greeted him and said to him: I heard you and you were saying: O Allah, grant me (the ability) to praise you a praise through which I can sufficiently thank You for the favours You have bestowed upon me and by which You have preferred me over many whom You have created a great preference.; so what favour from the favours of Allah upon you are you praising Him for? And in what way did He prefer you over others a great preference that you need to thank Him for it? He said: Don’t you see what my Lord has done? By Allah, if He sent the sky to me as a fire which burned me, or ordered the mountains to crush me, or the oceans to drown me, or the earth to swallow me up; it would only cause me to be more grateful to my Lord for the favour of this tongue He bestowed upon me.
average curry that thinks that every white women is a stacy :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
 
Yeah question still stands muzzie, why didn't your retard god make you chad? He doesn't love you obviously. Or he just doesn't exist
If you had read it, you wouldn't ask such stupid questions. Ignorant Kafir
 
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DNR, jfl on be blackpilled in 2025 :feelskek::feelskek::feelskek:
 
I am muslim, but cope, cuz how will u get that pious religious perfect wife if you arent attractive? do u think she says in her mind: i'm gonna fuck this guy because hes religious or stable af? stop the delusion, no one is coming to help you, even god didnt give u the genes, its OVER :feelswhy::feelswhy::feelswhy: ?
extremely incel take, comparing pious niqabis to avg kuffar or whitewashed hoejabis. if ur muslim then study ur deen lmao, we r told to not solely look at physical attractiveness. piety is more important. do you think a religious muslim thinks ab "fucking" this much? lmao, u dont needa be a 10/10 model to fulfil sexual intimacy within the bounds of a marriage. a pious couple whos never been with anyone else and lowers their gaze will naturally enjoy each other more. muhammad upon him be peace wouldnt tell one of the most beautiful women in the city to marry julaybib if ur BPwashed ideology was true
 
If you believe in the afterlife, then being incel isn’t that bad, because you know you can get compensation for this humiliation in the afterlife if you are a good muslim or christian or whatever one believes in. But most here are atheists, even the muslims are atheists and don’t really believe in paradise or hell, including me. In fact, most people don’t believe that, they just pretend to believe, so they don’t get wiped out of their religous parents or grandparents testament
no ones a muslim if they dont believe in an afterlife, and we dont regard any religion except islam as true (monotheism, submission to the One Creator), including christianity etc, religions with no logic, evidences or firm foundation. and in this post, i explained why even a "sub5" or wtv can get married well and all. ofc, women of jannah r way better, but muslims are heavily encouraged to marry as soon as possible. islam is the breaker of inceldom
 
extremely incel take, comparing pious niqabis to avg kuffar or whitewashed hoejabis. if ur muslim then study ur deen lmao, we r told to not solely look at physical attractiveness. piety is more important. do you think a religious muslim thinks ab "fucking" this much? lmao, u dont needa be a 10/10 model to fulfil sexual intimacy within the bounds of a marriage. a pious couple whos never been with anyone else and lowers their gaze will naturally enjoy each other more. muhammad upon him be peace wouldnt tell one of the most beautiful women in the city to marry julaybib if ur BPwashed ideology was true
but how will she marry u if youre ugly? unless youre an oofy doofy, or at least if u manage to marry her, attraction will die off so quickly if you re recessed or have a negative canthal tilt, or 5ft4 :ROFLMAO:
 

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