Ignoring the differences *between* "Europeans" whilst dismissing similarities between certain "Europeans" and certain "West Asians" and vice versa.

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Whenever people talk about facial structure, people ignorantly refer to a "European" skull as if there aren't any fine scale differences *between* "Europeans". The facial structure of a Frenchman is distinct from a Pole yet they're both lumped in the "European" category. A Frenchman may or may not have more affinity with that of a Turk in terms of facial structure and yet people on here would say how the structure of a Turk is "distinct".

Let's also get this out of the way now. Turks ARE European AND West Asian. These are NOT contradictory. Admixture is a fucking thing. The statement of Turks being "European" is a FACT.

The TRUTH is that Western Eurasians as a WHOLE have overlapping facial features with fine scale nuance between ALL groups. The idea that a Turk should be distinguished from a Southern Italian yet lumped in with Saudis makes no sense. Hell, even a GERMAN is genetically closer to a Turk than a Saudi is. Many NORTHERN Europeans are closer to Turks than Turks are to Saudis or other Arabian Peninsula Arabs and no, this ISN'T due to "Slavic ancestry" in Turks since Azeris who have less of that are ALSO closer to Germans than they are to Saudis.

One moron actually said that Greeks were closer to Germans than to Turks GENETICALLY using unverified information. Here's what the actual evidence shows.

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Though there are differences, Turks and Greeks CLEARLY overlap more than Greeks do with Germans.

We also have a study where FST values between 4 different Greek groups and Turks ranged from 0.002 (Macedonian) to 0.004 (Thessaly) with an average of 0.003 whereas between those four Germans and Greeks, it ranged from 0.004 (Peloponnese, Macedonians and Macedonians) to 0.005 (Central Greeks) with an average of 0.00425.



So no, Greeks aren't closer to Germans than to Turks. The opposite is in fact true.

The truth is that we need to talk about groups with nuance and not lump or distinguish without right just because of fake boundaries placed by racist morons from Northern Europe.
 
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As a turk my dna is split up into bulgarian, eastern european turk, anatolian, greek, italian

when i went to serbia everyone thought i was serbian

i think i look like a regural med/eastern european guy

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ive noticed that theres a massive racial difference between eastern turkey and western turkey. the place i come from people look like the same pheno as me however other parts of turkey are more ethnic
 
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its always balkans and slavs who try to separate themselves from turks, west asians and some central asians. They always claim to be like nordics despite looking palestinian. I think meds look good even if they look a bit arab so idk why theyre so insecure
 
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Whenever people talk about facial structure, people ignorantly refer to a "European" skull as if there aren't any fine scale differences *between* "Europeans". The facial structure of a Frenchman is distinct from a Pole yet they're both lumped in the "European" category. A Frenchman may or may not have more affinity with that of a Turk in terms of facial structure and yet people on here would say how the structure of a Turk is "distinct".

Let's also get this out of the way now. Turks ARE European AND West Asian. These are NOT contradictory. Admixture is a fucking thing. The statement of Turks being "European" is a FACT.

The TRUTH is that Western Eurasians as a WHOLE have overlapping facial features with fine scale nuance between ALL groups. The idea that a Turk should be distinguished from a Southern Italian yet lumped in with Saudis makes no sense. Hell, even a GERMAN is genetically closer to a Turk than a Saudi is. Many NORTHERN Europeans are closer to Turks than Turks are to Saudis or other Arabian Peninsula Arabs and no, this ISN'T due to "Slavic ancestry" in Turks since Azeris who have less of that are ALSO closer to Germans than they are to Saudis.

One moron actually said that Greeks were closer to Germans than to Turks GENETICALLY using unverified information. Here's what the actual evidence shows.

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Though there are differences, Turks and Greeks CLEARLY overlap more than Greeks do with Germans.

We also have a study where FST values between 4 different Greek groups and Turks ranged from 0.002 (Macedonian) to 0.004 (Thessaly) with an average of 0.003 whereas between those four Germans and Greeks, it ranged from 0.004 (Peloponnese, Macedonians and Macedonians) to 0.005 (Central Greeks) with an average of 0.00425.



So no, Greeks aren't closer to Germans than to Turks. The opposite is in fact true.

The truth is that we need to talk about groups with nuance and not lump or distinguish without right just because of fake boundaries placed by racist morons from Northern Europe.
Why do u always use the most biased examples,and no sardianians and southern italians are not white and neither are spaniards
Im Serbian and im closer to a german than any of the shitskins u mentioned
 
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Why do u always use the most biased examples,and no sardianians and southern italians are not white and neither are spaniards
Im Serbian and im closer to a german than any of the shitskins u mentioned
You are not close to a German at all, youre closer to a fucking sub Saharan negroid than the Germans on the border of austria
 
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Whenever people talk about facial structure, people ignorantly refer to a "European" skull as if there aren't any fine scale differences *between* "Europeans". The facial structure of a Frenchman is distinct from a Pole yet they're both lumped in the "European" category. A Frenchman may or may not have more affinity with that of a Turk in terms of facial structure and yet people on here would say how the structure of a Turk is "distinct".

Let's also get this out of the way now. Turks ARE European AND West Asian. These are NOT contradictory. Admixture is a fucking thing. The statement of Turks being "European" is a FACT.

The TRUTH is that Western Eurasians as a WHOLE have overlapping facial features with fine scale nuance between ALL groups. The idea that a Turk should be distinguished from a Southern Italian yet lumped in with Saudis makes no sense. Hell, even a GERMAN is genetically closer to a Turk than a Saudi is. Many NORTHERN Europeans are closer to Turks than Turks are to Saudis or other Arabian Peninsula Arabs and no, this ISN'T due to "Slavic ancestry" in Turks since Azeris who have less of that are ALSO closer to Germans than they are to Saudis.

One moron actually said that Greeks were closer to Germans than to Turks GENETICALLY using unverified information. Here's what the actual evidence shows.

View attachment 4055267

Though there are differences, Turks and Greeks CLEARLY overlap more than Greeks do with Germans.

We also have a study where FST values between 4 different Greek groups and Turks ranged from 0.002 (Macedonian) to 0.004 (Thessaly) with an average of 0.003 whereas between those four Germans and Greeks, it ranged from 0.004 (Peloponnese, Macedonians and Macedonians) to 0.005 (Central Greeks) with an average of 0.00425.



So no, Greeks aren't closer to Germans than to Turks. The opposite is in fact true.

The truth is that we need to talk about groups with nuance and not lump or distinguish without right just because of fake boundaries placed by racist morons from Northern Europe.
im not knowledgable on dna or this type of shit
could you in the future make a thread on afghans
or just tell me where i can look for this type of data
thanls
 
Why do u always use the most biased examples,and no sardianians and southern italians are not white and neither are spaniards
Im Serbian and im closer to a german than any of the shitskins u mentioned
Yes, you are correct. Serbians are closer to Germans than these groups. That's because Serbians are shifted towards Northern Europe. In terms of looks? That depends. Serbians are definitely lighter than Southern Europeans, but I DOUBT they could pass for German or even Western Slavic. Not even Djokovic.
 
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Yes, you are correct. Serbians are closer to Germans than these groups. That's because Serbians are shifted towards Northern Europe. In terms of looks? That depends. Serbians are definitely lighter than Southern Europeans, but I DOUBT they could pass for German or even Western Slavic. Not even Djokovic.
Yes because we mixed with the natives which were WHITE
 
As a turk my dna is split up into bulgarian, eastern european turk, anatolian, greek, italian

when i went to serbia everyone thought i was serbian

i think i look like a regural med/eastern european guy

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ive noticed that theres a massive racial difference between eastern turkey and western turkey. the place i come from people look like the same pheno as me however other parts of turkey are more ethnic
Easy pass in balkans and even south germany.

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I may have exaggerated a little bit but yes, turanid and pontid phenotypes are found in balkans, ukraine, russia and even central europe. It's not the norm though.
 
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Whenever people talk about facial structure, people ignorantly refer to a "European" skull as if there aren't any fine scale differences *between* "Europeans". The facial structure of a Frenchman is distinct from a Pole yet they're both lumped in the "European" category. A Frenchman may or may not have more affinity with that of a Turk in terms of facial structure and yet people on here would say how the structure of a Turk is "distinct".

Let's also get this out of the way now. Turks ARE European AND West Asian. These are NOT contradictory. Admixture is a fucking thing. The statement of Turks being "European" is a FACT.

The TRUTH is that Western Eurasians as a WHOLE have overlapping facial features with fine scale nuance between ALL groups. The idea that a Turk should be distinguished from a Southern Italian yet lumped in with Saudis makes no sense. Hell, even a GERMAN is genetically closer to a Turk than a Saudi is. Many NORTHERN Europeans are closer to Turks than Turks are to Saudis or other Arabian Peninsula Arabs and no, this ISN'T due to "Slavic ancestry" in Turks since Azeris who have less of that are ALSO closer to Germans than they are to Saudis.

One moron actually said that Greeks were closer to Germans than to Turks GENETICALLY using unverified information. Here's what the actual evidence shows.

View attachment 4055267

Though there are differences, Turks and Greeks CLEARLY overlap more than Greeks do with Germans.

We also have a study where FST values between 4 different Greek groups and Turks ranged from 0.002 (Macedonian) to 0.004 (Thessaly) with an average of 0.003 whereas between those four Germans and Greeks, it ranged from 0.004 (Peloponnese, Macedonians and Macedonians) to 0.005 (Central Greeks) with an average of 0.00425.



So no, Greeks aren't closer to Germans than to Turks. The opposite is in fact true.

The truth is that we need to talk about groups with nuance and not lump or distinguish without right just because of fake boundaries placed by racist morons from Northern Europe.
Well obvs because people have to dumb it down or it’s gets too complicated

Africans are the most diverse race with literal caucasoids in our race FFS and yet we jsut lump them all as “black” why? Because it’s simpler this way


What your suffering from is called true sheer autism, sit down drink some tea and chill
 
You are not close to a German at all, youre closer to a fucking sub Saharan negroid than the Germans on the border of austria
As a BBC this comment made me laugh my mother fucking ass off holy shit goated comment 10/10
 
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I may have exaggerated a little bit but yes, turanid and pontid phenotypes are found in balkans, ukraine, russia and even central europe. It's not the norm though.
In which social classes? Rich or poor?
 
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European is an ethnicity not a race. Turkish are muslim
 
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LOL near the bulgarian border yeah
Not really, I’ve been to Bosnia (same people as Serbians) and they mostly looked like that. There are tons of Brits that look like that to, the most Common eye color throughout europe apart from the nordics is brown.
 
There are tons of Brits that look like that to
Really?
Duke archer said brits are A10 nordic looking people

Not really, I’ve been to Bosnia (same people as Serbians) and they mostly looked like that.
Thats is true alot of herzegovina serbs are tan asf
But western(near bosnia) and northern(belgrade) serbs tend to be more light and have blue eyes

the most Common eye color throughout europe apart from the nordics is brown.
What about russia?
 
Duke archer said brits are A10 nordic looking people
He’s a Brit himself so he’s trying to make them look whiter.

I live in the uk like 40% people have very dark blue eyes, 40-45% have brown or hazel eyes and only 5% of adults have blonde hair. Not Nordic at all, and the only Nordic genes in them are from rape by Vikings or if they’re upper class descendants of Norman rulers.

But western(near bosnia) and northern(belgrade) serbs tend to be more light and have blue eyes

Like 15% have blue eyes at most, same in fucking Syria. And even if they’re lighter skinned he still passes as the average Serb from the other regions.

What about russia?

Northern Russia it’s blue but throughout Russia including Siberia and the lower parts probably hazel
 
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i am 25% atleast balkan (grandma, and the rest most dutch, i heard family far far (in time) away was french/spanish also so..)

i will do a DNA test soon and make a thread
 
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But no one is really gonna notice that since it’s not extreme like bug eyes or monolids. He can easily pass as Serb I’ve met a few Brits that look like him.
 
I live in the uk like 40% people have very dark blue eyes
Ok i have to know
Do you think that whether its dark or light matters?

5% of adults have blonde hair
How is it so low

average Serb from the other regions.
From other regions yes but the other regions are where serbs mixed with bulgarians(they have tatar genes) or albanians(pretty much blacks)

Northern Russia
I heard they have asian genes
 
Do you think that whether its dark or light matters?
Light eyes are a halo, no one fucking cares if it’s dark since it’s not striking.
How is it so low
Idk I saw a couple stats for it but you won’t commonly see a natural blonde Brit (lots dye it but you can tell since the crown is dark) from my experience it’s probably 10% but it’s probably even lower as you reach mid 20s.

From other regions yes but the other regions are where serbs mixed with bulgarians(they have tatar genes) or albanians(pretty much blacks)
By other regions I meant most regions other than the very northern parts where they have slightly lighter skin

I heard they have asian genes
So do nordics, they still have blonde hair.
 
Light eyes are a halo, no one fucking cares if it’s dark since it’s not striking.
Yeah true but i would still choose dark blue over light brown

By other regions I meant most regions other than the very northern parts where they have slightly lighter skin
Yeah i dont really count south serbs as serbs

So do nordics, they still have blonde hair.
You mean finns?
I doubt swedes or norwegians have it
 
Yeah true but i would still choose dark blue over light brown
Light brown is more striking, women would prefer it over dark blue but sure.

You mean finns?
I doubt swedes or norwegians have it
Finns have lots of Asian dna, the rest are 13% on average. Not enough to make too much of a difference tho,
 
Light brown is more striking, women would prefer it over dark blue but sure.
Its way more striking and i agree they would prefer it but i just cant imagine waking up and seeing brown eye color

Finns have lots of Asian dna, the rest are 13% on average. Not enough to make too much of a difference tho,
No fucking way swedes have that much
 
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