
TheStonerOne
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Whenever people talk about facial structure, people ignorantly refer to a "European" skull as if there aren't any fine scale differences *between* "Europeans". The facial structure of a Frenchman is distinct from a Pole yet they're both lumped in the "European" category. A Frenchman may or may not have more affinity with that of a Turk in terms of facial structure and yet people on here would say how the structure of a Turk is "distinct".
Let's also get this out of the way now. Turks ARE European AND West Asian. These are NOT contradictory. Admixture is a fucking thing. The statement of Turks being "European" is a FACT.
The TRUTH is that Western Eurasians as a WHOLE have overlapping facial features with fine scale nuance between ALL groups. The idea that a Turk should be distinguished from a Southern Italian yet lumped in with Saudis makes no sense. Hell, even a GERMAN is genetically closer to a Turk than a Saudi is. Many NORTHERN Europeans are closer to Turks than Turks are to Saudis or other Arabian Peninsula Arabs and no, this ISN'T due to "Slavic ancestry" in Turks since Azeris who have less of that are ALSO closer to Germans than they are to Saudis.
One moron actually said that Greeks were closer to Germans than to Turks GENETICALLY using unverified information. Here's what the actual evidence shows.
Though there are differences, Turks and Greeks CLEARLY overlap more than Greeks do with Germans.
We also have a study where FST values between 4 different Greek groups and Turks ranged from 0.002 (Macedonian) to 0.004 (Thessaly) with an average of 0.003 whereas between those four Germans and Greeks, it ranged from 0.004 (Peloponnese, Macedonians and Macedonians) to 0.005 (Central Greeks) with an average of 0.00425.
www.nature.com
So no, Greeks aren't closer to Germans than to Turks. The opposite is in fact true.
The truth is that we need to talk about groups with nuance and not lump or distinguish without right just because of fake boundaries placed by racist morons from Northern Europe.
Let's also get this out of the way now. Turks ARE European AND West Asian. These are NOT contradictory. Admixture is a fucking thing. The statement of Turks being "European" is a FACT.
The TRUTH is that Western Eurasians as a WHOLE have overlapping facial features with fine scale nuance between ALL groups. The idea that a Turk should be distinguished from a Southern Italian yet lumped in with Saudis makes no sense. Hell, even a GERMAN is genetically closer to a Turk than a Saudi is. Many NORTHERN Europeans are closer to Turks than Turks are to Saudis or other Arabian Peninsula Arabs and no, this ISN'T due to "Slavic ancestry" in Turks since Azeris who have less of that are ALSO closer to Germans than they are to Saudis.
One moron actually said that Greeks were closer to Germans than to Turks GENETICALLY using unverified information. Here's what the actual evidence shows.

Though there are differences, Turks and Greeks CLEARLY overlap more than Greeks do with Germans.
We also have a study where FST values between 4 different Greek groups and Turks ranged from 0.002 (Macedonian) to 0.004 (Thessaly) with an average of 0.003 whereas between those four Germans and Greeks, it ranged from 0.004 (Peloponnese, Macedonians and Macedonians) to 0.005 (Central Greeks) with an average of 0.00425.

Genome-wide analysis of Corsican population reveals a close affinity with Northern and Central Italy - Scientific Reports
Despite being the fourth largest island in the Mediterranean basin, the genetic variation of Corsica has not been explored as exhaustively as Sardinia, which is situated only 11 km South. However, it is likely that the populations of the two islands shared, at least in part, similar demographic...

So no, Greeks aren't closer to Germans than to Turks. The opposite is in fact true.
The truth is that we need to talk about groups with nuance and not lump or distinguish without right just because of fake boundaries placed by racist morons from Northern Europe.
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