IM ABOUT TO START HGH (DISCUSSION) (gtfih if you've used it before)

[confirmgy]

-- BEFORE YOU DNR --
red font = my own research
blue font = my plan (please answer if you've used hgh before)
green font = questions for experienced users (please answer if you've used hgh before)

I've already made a thread about this but it was kinda bad so making another.

I have done a fair bit of research into the effects, but I have never pinned before so I would love some anecdotes and advice from people who have pinned hgh.


What I think hgh improves if young enough:
- height (around 9cm for hgh deficient users on moderate dose (4ius/day for years))
- hand and foot size
- skull forward growth (maxilla)
- jaw (chin breadth, gonion width and mandibular projection)
- clavicle length
- recovery (less sleep to get the same amount of recovery and cognition abilities)
- muscle growth and muscle recovery

The potential risks:
- carpal tunnel syndrome (rare except in high doses (7+ius/day))
- joint pain (temporary and expected with skeletal growth)
- tumor growth acceleration (if you already have tumours then the rate of growth may be accelerated, however this means it will get spotted faster anyway and is extremely rare so not a concern of mine)

My hgh plan:
- On my 18th birthday in around 1 month, I am going to start an hgh cycle since I get access to a child trust fund with around £4200 or $5500 for American readers
- I will order the 720 iu box from QSC to my home in the UK
- I will pin 8ius / day for 90 days (this is subject to change if I think the dose should be lowered. I am unlikely to increase the dose without significant reason)
- I am considering adding an aromatase inhibitor to the stack, however the only compound I plan on injecting is hgh so it would just be for my natural estrogen production which may be slightly raised by hgh, to keep my growth plates open as long as possible if they still are.

What I'm hoping to get from the cycle:

Likely to get:
- improved sleep since I have exams within the 90 days
- muscle recovery
- slight growth of frame (via clavicles / scapular expanding since those plates usually don't fully ossify until around 25)

Unlikely to get:
- height growth. (since I will be turning 18 its unlikely my growth plates will still be open. However I have reason to believe they might be. I have definitely grown at least 2cm in the last 6 months and I am 5'10 with a 6'4 dad and 5'8 mum so genetically I should be 6'3-6'6).
- chin growth. (another indicator my plates aren't fully closed is my chin is narrow and recessed indicating deficiency and delayed ossification . I am hoping for a few mm in mandible, some breadth in chin and maybe some gonion projection)
- brow ridge growth
- neck growth (neck size is directly locked to the anatomy underneath it. I have put on as much muscle as possible on my neck already)
- maxilla growth and projection (extremely unlikely)

Questions for experienced users:
- Are the effects I detailed as likely as I suggest they are?
- Can you please give anecdotes of your usage? (How your skeletal structure changed, how old you were, what your stack consisted of)
- Did I miss out or get any effects wrong?
- What else could I add / subtract from the stack to get peak benefits?

My prioritisation of benefits:
1. height (even though I've given up on it pretty much)
2. jaw growth
3. frame
4. other facial structure changes
5. muscles etc


VERY HIGH EFFORT POST SO PLEASE REP / BUMP WHENEVER YOU CAN

 

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if any mods see this could you move to looksmaxxing section actually thanks rather than offtopic

 

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[Francisco_Bs]

-- BEFORE YOU DNR --
red font = my own research
blue font = my plan (please answer if you've used hgh before)
green font = questions for experienced users (please answer if you've used hgh before)

I've already made a thread about this but it was kinda bad so making another.

I have done a fair bit of research into the effects, but I have never pinned before so I would love some anecdotes and advice from people who have pinned hgh.


What I think hgh improves if young enough:
- height (around 9cm for hgh deficient users on moderate dose (4ius/day for years))
- hand and foot size
- skull forward growth (maxilla)
- jaw (chin breadth, gonion width and mandibular projection)
- clavicle length
- recovery (less sleep to get the same amount of recovery and cognition abilities)
- muscle growth and muscle recovery

The potential risks:
- carpal tunnel syndrome (rare except in high doses (7+ius/day))
- joint pain (temporary and expected with skeletal growth)
- tumor growth acceleration (if you already have tumours then the rate of growth may be accelerated, however this means it will get spotted faster anyway and is extremely rare so not a concern of mine)

My hgh plan:
- On my 18th birthday in around 1 month, I am going to start an hgh cycle since I get access to a child trust fund with around £4200 or $5500 for American readers
- I will order the 720 iu box from QSC to my home in the UK
- I will pin 8ius / day for 90 days (this is subject to change if I think the dose should be lowered. I am unlikely to increase the dose without significant reason)
- I am considering adding an aromatase inhibitor to the stack, however the only compound I plan on injecting is hgh so it would just be for my natural estrogen production which may be slightly raised by hgh, to keep my growth plates open as long as possible if they still are.

What I'm hoping to get from the cycle:

Likely to get:
- improved sleep since I have exams within the 90 days
- muscle recovery
- slight growth of frame (via clavicles / scapular expanding since those plates usually don't fully ossify until around 25)

Unlikely to get:
- height growth. (since I will be turning 18 its unlikely my growth plates will still be open. However I have reason to believe they might be. I have definitely grown at least 2cm in the last 6 months and I am 5'10 with a 6'4 dad and 5'8 mum so genetically I should be 6'3-6'6).
- chin growth. (another indicator my plates aren't fully closed is my chin is narrow and recessed indicating deficiency and delayed ossification . I am hoping for a few mm in mandible, some breadth in chin and maybe some gonion projection)
- brow ridge growth
- neck growth (neck size is directly locked to the anatomy underneath it. I have put on as much muscle as possible on my neck already)
- maxilla growth and projection (extremely unlikely)

Questions for experienced users:
- Are the effects I detailed as likely as I suggest they are?
- Can you please give anecdotes of your usage? (How your skeletal structure changed, how old you were, what your stack consisted of)
- Did I miss out or get any effects wrong?
- What else could I add / subtract from the stack to get peak benefits?

My prioritisation of benefits:
1. height (even though I've given up on it pretty much)
2. jaw growth
3. frame
4. other facial structure changes
5. muscles etc


VERY HIGH EFFORT POST SO PLEASE REP / BUMP WHENEVER YOU CAN

Ur not getting more chin and maxilla projection from hgh

 

[confirmgy]

Ur not getting more chin and maxilla projection from hgh

have you used hgh before? the jaw is nearly the most sensitive region to hgh, every study and source says hgh has huge impacts on the jaw. even google.

 

[Francisco_Bs]

have you used hgh before? the jaw is nearly the most sensitive region to hgh, every study and source says hgh has huge impacts on the jaw. even google.

Im hopping on soon, im doing mk677 first. But i dont think it gives u more chin projection or maxilla unless u have the genes buddy boyo

 

[confirmgy]

Im hopping on soon, im doing mk677 first. But i dont think it gives u more chin projection or maxilla unless u have the genes buddy boyo

mk677 = dnr also nah look it up bro im pretty sure your wrong. i probably wont see effects myself tbf since im too old

 

[Leo]

Im hopping on soon, im doing mk677 first. But i dont think it gives u more chin projection or maxilla unless u have the genes buddy boyo

mk677 u joking right

 

[Francisco_Bs]

nah look it up bro im pretty sure your wrong. i probably wont see effects myself tbf since im too old

@Orka

 

[Francisco_Bs]

mk677 u joking right

I have never been on hgh, mk is less stronger but it gives u gh anyway

 

[PsychoDsk]

im doing mk677 first.

Yea quit talking now

 

[Francisco_Bs]

Yea quit talking now

Why is that

 

[PsychoDsk]

Sides none
Pros fuller, better looking, accelerated growth if susceptible

Don’t start at 8 iu’s tho
Start at 2, up to 4 for 2 weeks and then start running 8

 

[Leo]

I have never been on hgh, mk is less stronger but it gives u gh anyway

Yea quit talking now

^

 

[PsychoDsk]

Why is that

Because it’s the biggest joke out there
The second someone mentions mk677 u just know they haven’t got a clue

It’s only good to increase hunger, even then still shit compared to anything else

 

[Francisco_Bs]

^

Anything saying what is wrong with mk

 

[Francisco_Bs]

Because it’s the biggest joke out there
The second someone mentions mk677 u just know they haven’t got a clue

It’s only good to increase hunger, even then still shit compared to anything else

Have u ever been on mk

 

[confirmgy]

Sides none
Pros fuller, better looking, accelerated growth if susceptible

Don’t start at 8 iu’s tho
Start at 2, up to 4 for 2 weeks and then start running 8

thanks <3. when you say accelerated growth what areas might grow? jaw, height, clavicles?

 

[PsychoDsk]

Have u ever been on mk

No, no one should be on it ever

 

[Francisco_Bs]

No, no one should be on it ever

Then u dont have experience from it and cant just say something about it

 

[PsychoDsk]

thanks <3. when you say accelerated growth what areas might grow? jaw, height, clavicles?

Clavicles, frame in general. Height debatable, facial changes very much so.

It changes ur fat distribution aswell, u just look better on it and increased igf-1 is directly linked to better symmetry

Sleep is also just wonderful on it, although can make it hard to wake up in the morning in my experience.

 

[Francisco_Bs]

Clavicles, frame in general. Height debatable, facial changes very much so.

It changes ur fat distribution aswell, u just look better on it and increased igf-1 is directly linked to better symmetry

Sleep is also just wonderful on it, although can make it hard to wake up in the morning in my experience.

Since u have been on hgh, does it change your bones like crazy?

 

[PsychoDsk]

Then u dont have experience from it and cant just say something about it

There’s 0 experience to be had
Studies exist, anecdotes aswell. Ur lucky if it increases hunger, ur braindead if u think it increases igf-1 to any significant degree

It’s a cope supplement, not even worth being called a sarm

 

[confirmgy]

Clavicles, frame in general. Height debatable, facial changes very much so.

It changes ur fat distribution aswell, u just look better on it and increased igf-1 is directly linked to better symmetry

Sleep is also just wonderful on it, although can make it hard to wake up in the morning in my experience.

thats really great to hear that you've pinned before and think i will have benefits like these. thanks for the response thats acc lifefuel and im looking forward to hgh dreams

 

[PsychoDsk]

Since u have been on hgh, does it change your bones like crazy?

Not really
Just minor changes
Some slight dimorphism and fat pads around my eyes have been very very mogger

If u have no bones before, u’ll have none during and after. It just helps

 

[PsychoDsk]

thats really great to hear that you've pinned before and think i will have benefits like these. thanks for the response thats acc lifefuel and im looking forward to hgh dreams

Don’t expect a new face tho, it’s not a superman liquid

 

[Francisco_Bs]

Not really
Just minor changes
Some slight dimorphism and fat pads around my eyes have been very very mogger

If u have no bones before, u’ll have none during and after. It just helps

Yeah its only hope for me left ig i’ll hop on hgh instead of mk, thanks!

 

[confirmgy]

Don’t expect a new face tho, it’s not a superman liquid

yes ofc, i remember someone larping to me a while ago that the "grew a chin" and gained a whole cm of mandible within a month jfl

 

[PsychoDsk]

yes ofc, i remember someone larping to me a while ago that the "grew a chin" and gained a whole cm of mandible within a month jfl

There’s prob people out there that do respond like that but it’s not the norm ifykwim

Even so, sleep, fullness and fat distribution is worth every penny

 

[confirmgy]

There’s prob people out there that do respond like that but it’s not the norm ifykwim

Even so, sleep, fullness and fat distribution is worth every penny

indeed, we can only hope. I'm gonna document it daily on org anyway with pics

 

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[ltnburger]

in my own experience, hgh is just more material for growth, not a main driver (kinda). you should use compounds that amplify igf1 and drive growth more where its needed (tren)

 

[growth_forward7777]

in my own experience, hgh is just more material for growth, not a main driver (kinda). you should use compounds that amplify igf1 and drive growth more where its needed (tren)

how many iu did you take

 

[UrFavNarcis]

Sides none
Pros fuller, better looking, accelerated growth if susceptible

Don’t start at 8 iu’s tho
Start at 2, up to 4 for 2 weeks and then start running 8

I have been running reta for 3 months and rn im at 3.5mg weekly. Today is my first day of hgh will it be a problem if i increase the total dose (in a few weeks) to a total 5mg weekly (reta)(i dont want diabetes)? Also about the hgh I have read and read and should i stay at 8 ius total? Will i get acromegally from 10 or more. If you could tell me if i need any supplements cuz i cant find shit even with the advanced search
Supplements prepared for hgh
p5p, creatine, zinc, omega 3, magnesium and vitamin d

 

[AverageCurryEnjoyer]

sleep is crazy good, its nice to run. titrate it up. use ai, but just hgh might work cause you have the genetics for it

 

[PsychoDsk]

I have been running reta for 3 months and rn im at 3.5mg weekly. Today is my first day of hgh will it be a problem if i increase the total dose (in a few weeks) to a total 5mg weekly (reta)(i dont want diabetes)? Also about the hgh I have read and read and should i stay at 8 ius total? Will i get acromegally from 10 or more. If you could tell me if i need any supplements cuz i cant find shit even with the advanced search
Supplements prepared for hgh
p5p, creatine, zinc, omega 3, magnesium and vitamin d

Ur looking too much into it
Reta works synergistically with GH which makes 8iu’s redundant. Max I’d go is 6.
U won’t get acromegaly nor have any sides or diabetes if ur not slopmaxxing candy 24/7.
GH is one of, if not the safest compound to run

Why p5p?
Those other supps are fine all the time but they’re not a necessity while on gh specifically

But up the dose gradually, don’t go all in on 6iu’s starting today
2iu for a week or 2 -> 4iu for a week -> 6

 

[UrFavNarcis]

Ur looking too much into it
Reta works synergistically with GH which makes 8iu’s redundant. Max I’d go is 6.
U won’t get acromegaly nor have any sides or diabetes if ur not slopmaxxing candy 24/7.
GH is one of, if not the safest compound to run

Why p5p?
Those other supps are fine all the time but they’re not a necessity while on gh specifically

But up the dose gradually, don’t go all in on 6iu’s starting today
2iu for a week or 2 -> 4iu for a week -> 6

When I asked about supplements someone told me about it and that I should take it (p5p). I have it just in case if I do need it.
So you mean that reta is like limiting the hgh ? I think i read from a member named zagro that I should be taking around 8 iu cuz that is equivalent to 6 if im buying from chinese (or something like this)

 

[UrFavNarcis]

Ur looking too much into it
Reta works synergistically with GH which makes 8iu’s redundant. Max I’d go is 6.
U won’t get acromegaly nor have any sides or diabetes if ur not slopmaxxing candy 24/7.
GH is one of, if not the safest compound to run

Why p5p?
Those other supps are fine all the time but they’re not a necessity while on gh specifically

But up the dose gradually, don’t go all in on 6iu’s starting today
2iu for a week or 2 -> 4iu for a week -> 6

Btw I have ghk and i read that it lowers/kills igf1 and if that is so i shouldnt take it with the hgh right? Cause hgh boosts it

 

[PsychoDsk]

When I asked about supplements someone told me about it and that I should take it (p5p). I have it just in case if I do need it.
So you mean that reta is like limiting the hgh ? I think i read from a member named zagro that I should be taking around 8 iu cuz that is equivalent to 6 if im buying from chinese (or something like this)

P5p is for prolactin related issues from androgens, not gh

Reta is optimizing the gh, it makes u more insulin sensitive so in simple terms, u respond better

Uhhh yea I mean depends on source, I always cop from the chinese aswell and it’s pure

Btw I have ghk and i read that it lowers/kills igf1 and if that is so i shouldnt take it with the hgh right? Cause hgh boosts it

I think u shouldn’t worry about that honestly
I’ve never heard of this phenomenon and I’ve been running ghk for close to a year and gh for a couple months, my igf-1 levels looks consistent with 4iu

 

[confirmgy]

sleep is crazy good, its nice to run. titrate it up. use ai, but just hgh might work cause you have the genetics for it

nice, I think im gonna chuck in AI too, probably aromamed if I can source it somewhere cheap enough. I am sooo looking forward to hgh sleep. also since my exams are close im gonna be well rested for those which is enough of a reason in itself to start hgh.

 

[UrFavNarcis]

P5p is for prolactin related issues from androgens, not gh

Reta is optimizing the gh, it makes u more insulin sensitive so in simple terms, u respond better

Uhhh yea I mean depends on source, I always cop from the chinese aswell and it’s pure



I think u shouldn’t worry about that honestly
I’ve never heard of this phenomenon and I’ve been running ghk for close to a year and gh for a couple months, my igf-1 levels looks consistent with 4iu

Thank you for the help

 

[UrFavNarcis]

P5p is for prolactin related issues from androgens, not gh

Reta is optimizing the gh, it makes u more insulin sensitive so in simple terms, u respond better

Uhhh yea I mean depends on source, I always cop from the chinese aswell and it’s pure



I think u shouldn’t worry about that honestly
I’ve never heard of this phenomenon and I’ve been running ghk for close to a year and gh for a couple months, my igf-1 levels looks consistent with 4iu

I know its from other org members but they did show studies

 

[ihateevb]

-- BEFORE YOU DNR --
red font = my own research
blue font = my plan (please answer if you've used hgh before)
green font = questions for experienced users (please answer if you've used hgh before)

I've already made a thread about this but it was kinda bad so making another.

I have done a fair bit of research into the effects, but I have never pinned before so I would love some anecdotes and advice from people who have pinned hgh.


What I think hgh improves if young enough:
- height (around 9cm for hgh deficient users on moderate dose (4ius/day for years))
- hand and foot size
- skull forward growth (maxilla)
- jaw (chin breadth, gonion width and mandibular projection)
- clavicle length
- recovery (less sleep to get the same amount of recovery and cognition abilities)
- muscle growth and muscle recovery

The potential risks:
- carpal tunnel syndrome (rare except in high doses (7+ius/day))
- joint pain (temporary and expected with skeletal growth)
- tumor growth acceleration (if you already have tumours then the rate of growth may be accelerated, however this means it will get spotted faster anyway and is extremely rare so not a concern of mine)

My hgh plan:
- On my 18th birthday in around 1 month, I am going to start an hgh cycle since I get access to a child trust fund with around £4200 or $5500 for American readers
- I will order the 720 iu box from QSC to my home in the UK
- I will pin 8ius / day for 90 days (this is subject to change if I think the dose should be lowered. I am unlikely to increase the dose without significant reason)
- I am considering adding an aromatase inhibitor to the stack, however the only compound I plan on injecting is hgh so it would just be for my natural estrogen production which may be slightly raised by hgh, to keep my growth plates open as long as possible if they still are.

What I'm hoping to get from the cycle:

Likely to get:
- improved sleep since I have exams within the 90 days
- muscle recovery
- slight growth of frame (via clavicles / scapular expanding since those plates usually don't fully ossify until around 25)

Unlikely to get:
- height growth. (since I will be turning 18 its unlikely my growth plates will still be open. However I have reason to believe they might be. I have definitely grown at least 2cm in the last 6 months and I am 5'10 with a 6'4 dad and 5'8 mum so genetically I should be 6'3-6'6).
- chin growth. (another indicator my plates aren't fully closed is my chin is narrow and recessed indicating deficiency and delayed ossification . I am hoping for a few mm in mandible, some breadth in chin and maybe some gonion projection)
- brow ridge growth
- neck growth (neck size is directly locked to the anatomy underneath it. I have put on as much muscle as possible on my neck already)
- maxilla growth and projection (extremely unlikely)

Questions for experienced users:
- Are the effects I detailed as likely as I suggest they are?
- Can you please give anecdotes of your usage? (How your skeletal structure changed, how old you were, what your stack consisted of)
- Did I miss out or get any effects wrong?
- What else could I add / subtract from the stack to get peak benefits?

My prioritisation of benefits:
1. height (even though I've given up on it pretty much)
2. jaw growth
3. frame
4. other facial structure changes
5. muscles etc


VERY HIGH EFFORT POST SO PLEASE REP / BUMP WHENEVER YOU CAN

To get that bit of jaw projection you are going to need a shit ton more, almost double.

Beside idk how hgh only is bc i used it with test and ai.

During my depressions with the methyltren, hgh, test and ai i grew around 2cm and the rest of 8cm with hgh and test

 

[PsychoDsk]

I know its from other org members but they did show studies

Hmmm yea it’s logical and probably does to a certain degree.
GHK activates collagen remodeling through your FOXO and AMPK gene pathways which battles against your mTOR expression while GH and other androgens do the complete opposite.

However I don’t think it’s that big of a deal, my igf was 3x out of range even on megadoses of ghk so it’s negligible.

If u were to pin ghk natty with no other method of boosting ur mTOR u might get a little cooked but ur artificially increasing both pathways so nothing to worry about imo

Megadose ghk first month and then move to a regular dose eod and no issues imo

 

[PsychoDsk]

To get that bit of jaw projection you are going to need a shit ton more, almost double.

Beside idk how hgh only is bc i used it with test and ai.

During my depressions with the methyltren, hgh, test and ai i grew around 2cm and the rest of 8cm with hgh and test

On my momma androgens do more for height than gh istg
All the actual real anecdotes I’ve read about documented height growth was while on supra doses of androgens and gh, none are from gh solo

Btw how was methyltren for you

 

[cometohaunted]

-- BEFORE YOU DNR --
red font = my own research
blue font = my plan (please answer if you've used hgh before)
green font = questions for experienced users (please answer if you've used hgh before)

I've already made a thread about this but it was kinda bad so making another.

I have done a fair bit of research into the effects, but I have never pinned before so I would love some anecdotes and advice from people who have pinned hgh.


What I think hgh improves if young enough:
- height (around 9cm for hgh deficient users on moderate dose (4ius/day for years))
- hand and foot size
- skull forward growth (maxilla)
- jaw (chin breadth, gonion width and mandibular projection)
- clavicle length
- recovery (less sleep to get the same amount of recovery and cognition abilities)
- muscle growth and muscle recovery

The potential risks:
- carpal tunnel syndrome (rare except in high doses (7+ius/day))
- joint pain (temporary and expected with skeletal growth)
- tumor growth acceleration (if you already have tumours then the rate of growth may be accelerated, however this means it will get spotted faster anyway and is extremely rare so not a concern of mine)

My hgh plan:
- On my 18th birthday in around 1 month, I am going to start an hgh cycle since I get access to a child trust fund with around £4200 or $5500 for American readers
- I will order the 720 iu box from QSC to my home in the UK
- I will pin 8ius / day for 90 days (this is subject to change if I think the dose should be lowered. I am unlikely to increase the dose without significant reason)
- I am considering adding an aromatase inhibitor to the stack, however the only compound I plan on injecting is hgh so it would just be for my natural estrogen production which may be slightly raised by hgh, to keep my growth plates open as long as possible if they still are.

What I'm hoping to get from the cycle:

Likely to get:
- improved sleep since I have exams within the 90 days
- muscle recovery
- slight growth of frame (via clavicles / scapular expanding since those plates usually don't fully ossify until around 25)

Unlikely to get:
- height growth. (since I will be turning 18 its unlikely my growth plates will still be open. However I have reason to believe they might be. I have definitely grown at least 2cm in the last 6 months and I am 5'10 with a 6'4 dad and 5'8 mum so genetically I should be 6'3-6'6).
- chin growth. (another indicator my plates aren't fully closed is my chin is narrow and recessed indicating deficiency and delayed ossification . I am hoping for a few mm in mandible, some breadth in chin and maybe some gonion projection)
- brow ridge growth
- neck growth (neck size is directly locked to the anatomy underneath it. I have put on as much muscle as possible on my neck already)
- maxilla growth and projection (extremely unlikely)

Questions for experienced users:
- Are the effects I detailed as likely as I suggest they are?
- Can you please give anecdotes of your usage? (How your skeletal structure changed, how old you were, what your stack consisted of)
- Did I miss out or get any effects wrong?
- What else could I add / subtract from the stack to get peak benefits?

My prioritisation of benefits:
1. height (even though I've given up on it pretty much)
2. jaw growth
3. frame
4. other facial structure changes
5. muscles etc


VERY HIGH EFFORT POST SO PLEASE REP / BUMP WHENEVER YOU CAN

Mirin tf out of the effort, Only really cared to read blue font but keep us updated on this journey. I'm 18 too and hoping to grow to 6'4

I've grown recently so they're not closed just dont know how close they are to closing. It'd be nice to see if you actually grow at 18 too