I’m converting to Islam

[muwahhid]

There's no ad hominems if I'm not ignoring the argument, the argument is different and the insults are diff.

You're so retarded that you don't even know what the literal definition of an ad hominem is JFL.

"Nothing concrete" if only you could read the text.

"Allah has a hand that cannot be likened to anything so it being metaphorical meant that we cannot say what attributes it has but WE CAN SAY WHAT IT DOESNT HAVE, meaning we can say about the hand that it cannot be something which Allah depends upon, it cannot be a part of him, to do a specific action - Allah does not need it."



Im convinced that you're a retarded schizophrenic idioto thinks he's smart

Tfytb nigga u made a whole buncha metaphorical conclusions in the original post i pinged

 

[muwahhid]

U absolute shame of a man, read the text first and then bark.

Muh metaphorical interpretations of attributes, just kill yourself

retard everyone would want death if it meant guaranteed Jannah but if someone was born with the same IQ as you, they'd have probably suicided by now because you're mentally retarded, Allah will probably forgive you since your mind doesnt work properly.

Dnr like half of that cause ik ur just larping but anyways tell me what i misread here bumass nigga

"‎The terms used, "Loin cloth" (izar) and "cloak" (rida’) are metaphorical.
‎In Arab culture, garments like these symbolized one’s dignity or authority.
‎The hadith has said that glory and pride belong solely to Allah, and humans who adopt arrogance or compete in these traits will be punished."

This is a fucking metaphorical larp interpretation u imbecile,
"Allah has upper and lower garments. His clothes are real. The knowledge of how he wears them is with Allah."
- Ibn Uthaymeen رَحِمَهُ ٱللَّٰهُ

 

[muwahhid]

U absolute shame of a man, read the text first and then bark.

Muh metaphorical interpretations of attributes, just kill yourself

retard everyone would want death if it meant guaranteed Jannah but if someone was born with the same IQ as you, they'd have probably suicided by now because you're mentally retarded, Allah will probably forgive you since your mind doesnt work properly.

Keep telling niggas to commit a major sin online retarded ass nigga, JahannamAkhlaq maxxing

 

[Ogionth]

Tfytb nigga u made a whole buncha metaphorical conclusions in the original post i pinged

I already explained what "metaphorical" in all those comments meant, I'm not gonna bother anymore because you're retarded.

 

[muwahhid]

Just cope and ignore my clear quotation and refutation of you lmfao

I already explained what "metaphorical" in all those comments meant, I'm not gonna bother anymore because you're retarded.

 

[Ogionth]

Dnr like half of that cause ik ur just larping but anyways tell me what i misread here bumass nigga

"‎The terms used, "Loin cloth" (izar) and "cloak" (rida’) are metaphorical.
‎In Arab culture, garments like these symbolized one’s dignity or authority.
‎The hadith has said that glory and pride belong solely to Allah, and humans who adopt arrogance or compete in these traits will be punished."

This is a fucking metaphorical larp interpretation u imbecile,
"Allah has upper and lower garments. His clothes are real. The knowledge of how he wears them is with Allah."
- Ibn Uthaymeen رَحِمَهُ ٱللَّٰهُ

I agree that I made a mistake there in the clothe part, but that's not my view and I was mistaken during writing it.

I agree that it doesn't refer to glory and pride.

Me calling it metaphorical in all those comments meant "Cannot be likened to anything but it's negative definition can be explained".


And I explained this in the very comment you took the quotation from.

Moreover, I'm man enough to admit that I had written it mistakenly but what about you strawmanning my arguments a thousand times and associated random views with then when your retarded ass got caught you went silent.

 

[muwahhid]

Dnr like half of that cause ik ur just larping but anyways tell me what i misread here bumass nigga

"‎The terms used, "Loin cloth" (izar) and "cloak" (rida’) are metaphorical.
‎In Arab culture, garments like these symbolized one’s dignity or authority.
‎The hadith has said that glory and pride belong solely to Allah, and humans who adopt arrogance or compete in these traits will be punished."

This is a fucking metaphorical larp interpretation u imbecile,
"Allah has upper and lower garments. His clothes are real. The knowledge of how he wears them is with Allah."
- Ibn Uthaymeen رَحِمَهُ ٱللَّٰهُ

Bump

 

[muwahhid]

I agree that I made a mistake there in the clothe part, but that's not my view and I was mistaken during writing it.

I agree that it doesn't refer to glory and pride.

Me calling it metaphorical in all those comments meant "Cannot be likened to anything but it's negative definition can be explained".


And I explained this in the very comment you took the quotation from.

Moreover, I'm man enough to admit that I had written it mistakenly but what about you strawmanning my arguments a thousand times and associated random views with then when your retarded ass got caught you went silent.

Then simply correct urself after i point out a mistake so u dont misguide ppl and make them ashari instead of telling a muslim to kill himself, 0 akhlaq lmfao. May Allah forgive u.

 

[Ogionth]

Keep telling niggas to commit a major sin online retarded ass nigga, JahannamAkhlaq maxxing

Just call me a Kafir, an Ashari, tell me that i say Allah exists without a place, also misconceptualize philosophy and logicality, lack basic English comprehension, dont read full comments, be retarded low IQ and say that we don't need to use logicality to argue

ALSO argue that Allah can have human like hands that he depends upon and try to fabricate more false attributes about him.

go on, keep doing it, atleast the loin part wouldn't be fabricating a lie about his existence in itself like you did, even if i were mistaken.

 

[Ogionth]

Then simply correct urself after i point out a mistake so u dont misguide ppl and make them ashari instead of telling a muslim to kill himself, 0 akhlaq lmfao. May Allah forgive u.

You fucing retard

I explained the metaphorical part in the very comment and that was the only thing where I didn't explain it for some reason, it was from a hadith so I wasn't familiar with it as much

AND I DIDNT TELL U TO KILL U BCZ OF THIS BUT BECAUSE OF THE 10 OTHER FALLACIES YOU MADE, WHY DONT U REPLY TO THEMYOU FUCKING FAGGOT?

 

[muwahhid]

Just call me a Kafir, an Ashari, tell me that i say Allah exists without a place, also misconceptualize philosophy and logicality, lack basic English comprehension, dont read full comments, be retarded low IQ and say that we don't need to use logicality to argue

ALSO argue that Allah can have human like hands that he depends upon and try to fabricate more false attributes about him.

go on, keep doing it, atleast the loin part wouldn't be fabricating a lie about his existence in itself like you did, even if i were mistaken.

1. Never takfired u.
2. Saying that was my mistake. Misinterpreted smth u said cause it sounded very similar to what asharis say, so i apologise
3. The salaf recognised the idea of 'philosophy' as something inherently deviant, and aql isnt above daleel
4. U can use aql to argue if its a vantage point from daleel
5. Never said that.

 

[muwahhid]

You fucing retard

I explained the metaphorical part in the very comment and that was the only thing where I didn't explain it for some reason, it was from a hadith so I wasn't familiar with it as much

AND I DIDNT TELL U TO KILL U BCZ OF THIS BUT BECAUSE OF THE 10 OTHER FALLACIES YOU MADE, WHY DONT U REPLY TO THEMYOU FUCKING FAGGOT?

1. Ur still committing a major sin without a valid reason, doesnt matter reason why
2. I apologise if my akhlaq was trash and i was swearing too much, got too used to orgcel's manners
3. What fallacies are we talking about, I was mostly talking ab how u were quoting metaphorical interpretations which cause deviance

 

[Ogionth]

1. Never takfired u.

"Borderline Kafir" that requires an apology, there is no such thing as Borderline Kafir, either u are a Muslim or a Kafir.

2. Saying that was my mistake. Misinterpreted smth u said cause it sounded very similar to what asharis say, so i apologise

3. The salaf recognised the idea of 'philosophy' as something inherently deviant, and aql isnt above daleel

Do you realize that aql can be used to derive daleel?

moreover I HAVE MENTIONED 1000 FUCKING TIMES THAT PHILOSOPHY AND LOGICALITY AREN'T THE SAME AND YOU KEE REPLYING THIS AND THEN U WONDER WHY IM TELLING YOU TO KILL URSELF.

YOU LITERALLY ARE MENTALLY RETARDED

 

[Ogionth]

1. Ur still committing a major sin without a valid reason, doesnt matter reason why

It was only in the instance of loin that I forgot to mention the meaning of metaphorical and I already admitted that I was mistaken, are you retarded? why are you bringing this up again

3. What fallacies are we talking about, I was mostly talking ab how u were quoting metaphorical interpretations which cause deviance

Muhz you literally are the lowest IQ person I've ever spoken to, you literally fucking assumed 10 views about me that I don't hold which are "strawmanns" and thus fallacies.

Moreover, you kept asserting that Allah could have a hand that he depends upon for his power WHICH IS KUFR of HIS ATTRIBUTES becausE WHY ELSE WOULD YOU EVEN TALK ABT THE HAND PART IF IN THE ORIGINAL COMMENT I NEVER SAID THAT IT WAS METAPHORICAL IN A WAY THAT THE HAND DIDN'T EXIST BUT THAT THE HAND CANNOT BE DEFINED EXACTLY.

are you gonna apologise for this too? along with the million other fallacies you've made

 

[muwahhid]

"Borderline Kafir" that requires an apology, there is no such thing as Borderline Kafir, either u are a Muslim or a Kafir.




Do you realize that aql can be used to derive daleel?

moreover I HAVE MENTIONED 1000 FUCKING TIMES THAT PHILOSOPHY AND LOGICALITY AREN'T THE SAME AND YOU KEE REPLYING THIS AND THEN U WONDER WHY IM TELLING YOU TO KILL URSELF.

YOU LITERALLY ARE MENTALLY RETARDED

1. The metaphorical interpretations were basically kufr. I said borderline kaafir because no one mass takfirs those beliefs if they were jahil, which is why I gave u that chance to correct urself and let u know what ur problem was.
2. No needa scream or lie and say "literally mentally retarded" which is a sin cause every lie is a sin apart from halal deception vro. doesnt make ur point stronger.
3. Dunno why ur on ab logicality, cause again, the reason i was calling it philosophy was because some of the shit you said was literally pure metaphorical interpretation philosophy. wtf do u not understand dawg, the label of what u believe in doesnt fucking change cause u think it should be called smth different

 

[muwahhid]

Either way aql can be used if its reasonable. There was nothing remotely reasonable there.

"Borderline Kafir" that requires an apology, there is no such thing as Borderline Kafir, either u are a Muslim or a Kafir.




Do you realize that aql can be used to derive daleel?

moreover I HAVE MENTIONED 1000 FUCKING TIMES THAT PHILOSOPHY AND LOGICALITY AREN'T THE SAME AND YOU KEE REPLYING THIS AND THEN U WONDER WHY IM TELLING YOU TO KILL URSELF.

YOU LITERALLY ARE MENTALLY RETARDED

 

[Ogionth]

1. The metaphorical interpretations were basically kufr. I said borderline kaafir because no one mass takfirs those beliefs if they were jahil, which is why I gave u that chance to correct urself and let u know what ur problem was.

No, once again, i only made mistake in the part where it was from a Hadith and then I owned it, so since I was wrong, 1 hadith wouldn't make me a Kafir (especially since Allah's Loin is not an attribute of his existence but rather something that he has created) and the one from Quran, I didn't make any mistake so it wasn't Kufr.


where is your apology? im still waiting.

2. No needa scream or lie and say "literally mentally retarded" which is a sin cause every lie is a sin apart from halal deception vro. doesnt make ur point stronger.

So you can bark all you want but the second I mention one of your properties like mental retardation, I'm at the wrong alright.

and i never used it to make my point stronger, you literally didn't even know the definition of an ad hominem .

3. Dunno why ur on ab logicality, cause again, the reason i was calling it philosophy was because some of the shit you said was literally pure metaphorical interpretation philosophy.

wtf do u not understand dawg, the label of what u believe in doesnt fucking change cause u think it should be called smth different

Retard, you don't even know what logicality means and you call it philosophy.

The loin interpretation wasn't even fucking philosophy about the hadith, and again I accepted that I were wronged but you SAID THAT philosopy part abt the hand of Allah so where's the apology for that, retard.

 

[Ogionth]

Either way aql can be used if its reasonable. There was nothing remotely reasonable there.

i already fucking told you how aql was used there, it was used to explain "negative definitions"

are you like mentally okay? you literally forgot everything that was previously said. It's unbelievable how dumb you are

 

[muwahhid]

It was only in the instance of loin that I forgot to mention the meaning of metaphorical and I already admitted that I was mistaken, are you retarded? why are you bringing this up again

Muhz you literally are the lowest IQ person I've ever spoken to, you literally fucking assumed 10 views about me that I don't hold which are "strawmanns" and thus fallacies.

Moreover, you kept asserting that Allah could have a hand that he depends upon for his power WHICH IS KUFR of HIS ATTRIBUTES becausE WHY ELSE WOULD YOU EVEN TALK ABT THE HAND PART IF IN THE ORIGINAL COMMENT I NEVER SAID THAT IT WAS METAPHORICAL IN A WAY THAT THE HAND DIDN'T EXIST BUT THAT THE HAND CANNOT BE DEFINED EXACTLY.

are you gonna apologise for this too? along with the million other fallacies you've made

Never confirmed any kufr ideas ab attributes, maybe you misunderstood.

It was only in the instance of loin that I forgot to mention the meaning of metaphorical and I already admitted that I was mistaken, are you retarded? why are you bringing this up again

Muhz you literally are the lowest IQ person I've ever spoken to, you literally fucking assumed 10 views about me that I don't hold which are "strawmanns" and thus fallacies.

Moreover, you kept asserting that Allah could have a hand that he depends upon for his power WHICH IS KUFR of HIS ATTRIBUTES becausE WHY ELSE WOULD YOU EVEN TALK ABT THE HAND PART IF IN THE ORIGINAL COMMENT I NEVER SAID THAT IT WAS METAPHORICAL IN A WAY THAT THE HAND DIDN'T EXIST BUT THAT THE HAND CANNOT BE DEFINED EXACTLY.

are you gonna apologise for this too? along with the million other fallacies you've made

U made numerous mistakes it wasnt just the loin shit, that was an example. Allah literally has a face, 2 feet, 2 right hands, etc. U were coping and saying half of it is metaphorical and shit, thats literally the deviant belief Im talking about. All u need to know is that he literally has them all but its not alike to the creation and u dont delve into it anymore khalas. Also, metaphorical basically means "not literally", so its a strange term to use when we know very well its all literal. I get that ur saying "metaphorical in the sense that" or whatnot but thats the exact word non atharis use lmao.

 

[muwahhid]

No, once again, i only made mistake in the part where it was from a Hadith and then I owned it, so since I was wrong, 1 hadith wouldn't make me a Kafir (especially since Allah's Loin is not an attribute of his existence but rather something that he has created) and the one from Quran, I didn't make any mistake so it wasn't Kufr.


where is your apology? im still waiting.

So you can bark all you want but the second I mention one of your properties like mental retardation, I'm at the wrong alright.

and i never used it to make my point stronger, you literally didn't even know the definition of an ad hominem .


Retard, you don't even know what logicality means and you call it philosophy.

The loin interpretation wasn't even fucking philosophy about the hadith, and again I accepted that I were wronged but you SAID THAT philosopy part abt the hand of Allah so where's the apology for that, retard.

1. Loin wasnt the only thing. An example
2. Dont post things for dawah if ur not even sure ab it.
3. Very good akhlaq right there vro. Its still a lie if you dont know if im literally retarded or not. And it would still be haram since ur making fun of something I cant control, if I was retarded
4. By ad hominem I meant u kept spamming insults without understanding the point i was making
5. I was referring to your CLEAR philosophical statements as fucking philosophy smartass
5. Kinda forgot what ur talking ab cause i aint scrolling allat, but IF I wronged you, forgive me. Im not infallible

 

[Ogionth]

Never confirmed any kufr ideas ab attributes, maybe you misunderstood.

I explained how you did in the hand part.

You see how arrogant you are despite being blatantly wrong, inshallah we will see on the day of Judgement, you will admit it there, don't worry.

U made numerous mistakes it wasnt just the loin shit, that was an example. Allah literally has a face, 2 feet, 2 right hands, etc. U were coping and saying half of it is metaphorical and shit, thats literally the deviant belief Im talking about.

I explained in the very text what metaphorical meant and I SAID THIS ABOUT 10 TIMES NOW, ARE YOU FUCKING BLIND?

All u need to know is that he literally has them all but its not alike to the creation and u dont delve into it anymore khalas. Also, metaphorical basically means "not literally", so its a strange term to use when we know very well its all literal.

do you realise that i used the word metaphorically because "literally" would indicate that the literal definition of a "hand" would be assumed if i didn't use the word? not that the text itself is metaphorical.

I get that ur saying "metaphorical in the sense that" or whatnot but thats the exact word non atharis use lmao.

So if you're ignorant to the exact definition in a specific context, you're just gonna assume random shit without reading the text properly? I literally explained it in the text too

 

[muwahhid]

i already fucking told you how aql was used there, it was used to explain "negative definitions"

are you like mentally okay? you literally forgot everything that was previously said. It's unbelievable how dumb you are

U needa akhlaqmaxx vro And I wasnt referring to ur flipping negative definitions or wtv when i called u a philosopher, and I quoted a bit ago the stuff i WAS talking ab

 

[muwahhid]

I explained how you did in the hand part.

You see how arrogant you are despite being blatantly wrong, inshallah we will see on the day of Judgement, you will admit it there, don't worry.



I explained in the very text what metaphorical meant and I SAID THIS ABOUT 10 TIMES NOW, ARE YOU FUCKING BLIND?

do you realise that i used the word metaphorically because "literally" would indicate that the literal definition of a "hand" would be assumed if i didn't use the word? not that the text itself is metaphorical.

So if you're ignorant to the exact definition in a specific context, you're just gonna assume random shit without reading the text properly? I literally explained it in the text too

1. Ok, if I made a mistake and misphrased my idea, then may Allah forgive me and I apologise for saying whatever mistakeful stuff I said. Dont call me arrogant when u call ppl literally mentally retarded and tell them to kts tho
2. Im talking about the inherent idea of what "metaphorical" is and why its weird that ur using it even if u meant it in a "normal" way. Its a term that completely contradicts the term "literally" which is what ahlus sunnnah affirms.
3. Just elaborate that u dont delve into modality. u SHOULD say that its literal, cause it is.

 

[Ogionth]

1. Loin wasnt the only thing. An example

Yes it was, all the other things I explained that they were metaphorical (and explained what metaphorical here means NOT WHAT YOU THINK IT MEANS, FAGGOT)

2. Dont post things for dawah if ur not even sure ab it.

I was sure, just the loin part I believe was something that I typed mistakenly not that I believe it and if i were to come across it again, I would correct it


BTW YOU SHOULD BE THE LAST PERSON TO TELL ME NOT TO "DAWAH" SINCE YOU LITERALLY COMMITTED KUFR REGARDING THE ATTRIBUTE OF HAND, MOREOVER YOU LITERALLY STAWMANNWD 10 OF MY ARGUMENTS JUST TO FIND 1 FAULT, YOU ALSO DIDN'T N
KNOW THE DEFINTION OF AN AD HOMINEM.

YOU LITERALLY ARE MENTALLY RETARDED, you should refrain from advising someone to "stop doing dawah".

3. Very good akhlaq right there vro. Its still a lie if you dont know if im literally retarded or not. And it would still be haram since ur making fun of something I cant control, if I was retarded

Im sure you're retarded don't worry

It's not haram, you insulted me and I'm insulting you back, an eye for an eye.

4. By ad hominem I meant u kept spamming insults without understanding the point i was making

Faggot you cant make your own definitions for ad hominem, I wasn't using the insults as argument they were separate and the argument were separate

5. I was referring to your CLEAR philosophical statements as fucking philosophy smartass

retard, thére were no strictly philosophical statements that couldn't be backed with aql and daleel (except the loin part which i admitted that i mistakenly wrote it and thats not my view but AGAIN IT WASN'T KUFR since it's a hadith abt clothes not allah's wxistence itself) thats the point .

5. Kinda forgot what ur talking ab cause i aint scrolling allat, but IF I wronged you, forgive me. Im not infallible

 

[Ogionth]

U needa akhlaqmaxx vro And I wasnt referring to ur flipping negative definitions or wtv when i called u a philosopher, and I quoted a bit ago the stuff i WAS talking ab

That wasn't in response to philosophy, you asked how aql was used (actually you made a claim that aql wasn't used) and the negative definitions came from aql and not textual evidence.

Are you gonna apologise for this now?

 

[Acri]

dont you dare bomb me

 

[muwahhid]

Yes it was, all the other things I explained that they were metaphorical (and explained what metaphorical here means NOT WHAT YOU THINK IT MEANS, FAGGOT)


I was sure, just the loin part I believe was something that I typed mistakenly not that I believe it and if i were to come across it again, I would correct it


BTW YOU SHOULD BE THE LAST PERSON TO TELL ME NOT TO "DAWAH" SINCE YOU LITERALLY COMMITTED KUFR REGARDING THE ATTRIBUTE OF HAND, MOREOVER YOU LITERALLY STAWMANNWD 10 OF MY ARGUMENTS JUST TO FIND 1 FAULT, YOU ALSO DIDN'T N
KNOW THE DEFINTION OF AN AD HOMINEM.

YOU LITERALLY ARE MENTALLY RETARDED, you should refrain from advising someone to "stop doing dawah".

Im sure you're retarded don't worry

It's not haram, you insulted me and I'm insulting you back, an eye for an eye.


Faggot you cant make your own definitions for ad hominem, I wasn't using the insults as argument they were separate and the argument were separate

retard, thére were no strictly philosophical statements that couldn't be backed with aql and daleel (except the loin part which i admitted that i mistakenly wrote it and thats not my view but AGAIN IT WASN'T KUFR since it's a hadith abt clothes not allah's wxistence itself) thats the point .

1. I explained why using the term "metaphorical" is weird
2. Ok ad hominem police Stay this strict ab the definition of metaphor asw. And I didn't commit kufr, maybe I misphrased myself. If I did, forgive me
3. Exaggerating and it wasnt based on "1 fault"
4. Ok cool
5. Youre right, I apologise. I was in the wrong for my initial akhlaq at the start of this and fairly long until now. May Allah forgive me for my mistakes and improve my ways of dealing with people online. I shouldn't have sweared or insulted at all, even if it was done to me first, and I shouldn't have jumped to conclusions here and there. I should have been more patient with you, thank you for reminding me. May Allah bless you, guide us all, and find it in your heart to forgive me for any insults or miscomprehensions I made

 

[Ogionth]

1. Ok, if I made a mistake and misphrased my idea, then may Allah forgive me and I apologise for saying whatever mistakeful stuff I said. Dont call me arrogant when u call ppl literally mentally retarded and tell them to kts tho
2. Im talking about the inherent idea of what "metaphorical" is and why its weird that ur using it even if u meant it in a "normal" way. Its a term that completely contradicts the term "literally" which is what ahlus sunnnah affirms.
3. Just elaborate that u dont delve into modality. u SHOULD say that its literal, cause it is.

Again this whole thing is because you didn't know what metaphorical meant from me in that context.

 

[muwahhid]

Yes. I apologise in general.

That wasn't in response to philosophy, you asked how aql was used (actually you made a claim that aql wasn't used) and the negative definitions came from aql and not textual evidence.

Are you gonna apologise for this now?

 

[muwahhid]

Again this whole thing is because you didn't know what metaphorical meant from me in that context.

U still made severe mistakes about certain attributes like hands though akhi. Allah literally has 2 right hands, 2 feet, and a face. Fullstop.

 

[Ogionth]

1. I explained why using the term "metaphorical" is weird

Weird ≠ wrong.

2. Ok ad hominem police Stay this strict ab the definition of metaphor asw. And I didn't commit kufr, maybe I misphrased myself. If I did, forgive me

Muh you brought ad hominem up now you're sad you couldn't back what you brought forth huh.

+ The definition of metaphor was strict, It referred to the idea of the hand, and not the text or the *existence of hand* which are both literal.

3. Exaggerating and it wasnt based on "1 fault"
4. Ok cool
5. Youre right, I apologise. I was in the wrong for my initial akhlaq at the start of this and fairly long until now. May Allah forgive me for my mistakes and improve my ways of dealing with people online. I shouldn't have sweared or insulted at all, even if it was done to me first, and I shouldn't have jumped to conclusions here and there. I should have been more patient with you, thank you for reminding me. May Allah bless you, guide us all, and find it in your heart to forgive me for any insults or miscomprehensions I made

ameen.

 

[Ogionth]

No

U still made severe mistakes about certain attributes like hands though akhi. Allah literally has 2 right hands, 2 feet, and a face. Fullstop.

I didn't make a mistake abt hands.

The original text said "Allah has hands but they are not like anything"

very clearly.

 

[muwahhid]

No

I didn't make a mistake abt hands.

The original text said "Allah has hands but they are not like anything"

very clearly.

you made a metaphorical conclusion about the second right hand not being literal, and (as of what i see) that the face isnt literal, and so on

 

[Ogionth]

you made a metaphorical conclusion about the second right hand not being literal, and (as of what i see) that the face isnt literal, and so on

Again, that's not what I meant by metaphor and I defined it in the very text, so if someone doesn't read it properly then only they'd conclude that the existence of the face is metaphorical, that's not what I conveyed, I conveyed that the IDEA is metaphorical and that these attributes are not "parts" of Allah himself as he cannot consist of parts as that would be opposing to his eternal nature.

But I apologize if it was written in a way that made you conclude that, and I'll write it in a better way next time, In'Sha'Allah

 

[muwahhid]

Again, that's not what I meant by metaphor and I defined it in the very text, so if someone doesn't read it properly then only they'd conclude that the existence of the face is metaphorical, that's not what I conveyed, I conveyed that the IDEA is metaphorical and that these attributes are not "parts" of Allah himself as he cannot consist of parts as that would be opposing to his eternal nature.

But I apologize if it was written in a way that made you conclude that, and I'll write it in a better way next time, In'Sha'Allah

Then just make it more clear next time akhi, its a bit misleading. Barakallahu feekum.