I’m Glad Looks Matter

[thecel]

Some of y'all think that the world would be a better place for incels if we were all judged by our virtue instead of the projections of our maxillas. It's understandably appealing: wouldn't it be great if the human brain just cared about things like wisdom, kindness, generosity, compassion, maturity, education, intelligence, conscientiousness, etc. and weren't influenced or biased by superficial bullshit like jawline length, penis size, and height? Sadly, the brutal (or perhaps lifefuel) truth is that such a world would be worse than the world we live in.

Long story short: physical appearance is very easy to change; an individual's character and mental traits are extremely hard to change.

If you're an ugly incel, you can get surgery to become a Chad. But what can a low-IQ, lazy, selfish asshole do to turn into a smart, hard-working, selfless person? Not much. You can't change your intelligence, likes, dislikes, desires, moral values, etc.

We all know you can't change your IQ, but if you believe that one can drastically change his or her personality, just think about this: if you don't want to donate to charity, can you choose to want to donate to charity? No, you can't. You can't choose what you want. A mean guy can't choose to want to be nice. If a mean guy actually did change himself and became nice, he must've had to want to be nice in the first place.

If the human mind were wired differently so as to have standards for mental traits in place of looks standards, the incel population would be MASSIVE. There are way more idiots and mean people on Earth than ugly people. Imagine what if all the racist, sexist, homophobic, selfish, arrogant, violent, etc. people were incels, and all the people with low IQs and all the drug users and uneducated lazy bums were incels too. There'd be billions of incels. Billions of incels! And ascension would be possible for NONE of them. On the contrary, in our current looks-centric world, any subhuman can just get Le Fort 3 and move on with their lives.

As much as we want to cope otherwise, a primarily looks-mattering world has a far greater capacity for upward mobility than a primarily character-mattering world.

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[Deleted member 6403]

True shit, just move ur bones theory

 

[Jason Voorhees]

No pics=dnt read

 

[6’2]

You underestimate the ability for people’s personality and/or mindset to change, just think back how you or someone else were a few years ago or even how you acted as a child. Hardly anyone also is born ’bad’ as you put it apart from the small percentage of psychopaths and sociopaths. According to epigenetics, this follows also, and people would likely be brought up better(and so be more useful members of society) if they were less discriminated for looks. Therefore a net positive in human behaviour. Mindset is much easier to change than bone.

Yes you may never have the personality of a movie star but neither will you look like Gandy.

 

[Patrick Baitman]

your lil gook brain thinks too much. I recommend drugs

 

[thecel]

You underestimate the ability for people’s personality and/or mindset to change, just think back how you or someone else were a few years ago or even how you acted as a child. Hardly anyone also is born ’bad’ as you put it apart from the small percentage of psychopaths and sociopaths. According to epigenetics, this follows also, and people would likely be brought up better(and so be more useful members of society) if they were less discriminated for looks. Therefore a net positive in human behaviour. Mindset is much easier to change than bone.

Yes you may never have the personality of a movie star but neither will you look like Gandy.

Looking like Gandy is literally easier to achieve than a personality change.

One way personalities change is through involuntary change. This type of change is what you referred to when you said "just think back how you or someone else were a few years ago or even how you acted as a child." Everyone naturally changes over time without having to do anything to change on purpose.

The other way is voluntary change, and this usually is impossible. To change your personality at will requires the desire to do so in the first place. If someone doesn't want to become a better person, they can't make themselves want to. It's impossible to choose what you want. I'd argue that a bad person who wants to change into a good person is already a good person because they want to be good. A truly bad person can't change into a good person.

Of course one could say "but you need to WANT to looksmax in order to get surgery." But EVERYONE wants to be attractive. Most people do not want to change their personalities.

Changing oneself voluntarily has big limitations too. For instance, changing your likes and dislikes is impossible to do voluntarily. Your likes and dislikes will change through your lifetime, but it's only involuntary.

 

[Deleted member 9670]

your lil gook brain thinks too much. I recommend drugs

 

[Deleted member 4430]

If you're an ugly incel, you can get surgery to become a Chad.

false, there are many things in the skull or on the body that cannot be changed yet, you know that. And if you have this flaws, you probably cant be truly GL.


no surgery for downturned medial canthus
no surgery for downward growth
no surgery for long midface
no surgery for cranial base or skull
no surgery for PFL
no surgery for colored eyes (yet)

and not very functional and perfect surgeries for IPD, forehead, balding.

Even LL (surgery, which has the greatest possible effect of all) demands a high sacrifice that most people would not be able to undergo.

 

[Chadeep]

Surgery is cope you have higher chances of getting botched than ascending just look at zac Efron.

 

[Deleted member 9670]

Surgery is cope you have higher chances of getting botched than ascending just look at zac Efron.

 

[Jason Voorhees]

false, there are many things in the skull or on the body that cannot be changed yet, you know that. And if you have this flaws, you probably cant be truly GL.


no surgery for downturned medial canthus

Epicathoplasty from dr e.

no surgery for downward growth

Mlf3,High cut leforts and midface implants

no surgery for long midface

Depends on which part of the midface ur referring to but there are a few ways of getting around it

no surgery for cranial base or skull

Cranial base is just hinge and controls the rest of ur facial bones.Even if there was a surgery for it it wouldnt change shit.Skull implants

no surgery for PFL

There are a few workarounds actually. Infact surgeymaxx is offering pfl widening in the future soon

no surgery for colored eyes (yet)

Stroma and there's also a clinic in Mexico that does iris implants

and not very functional and perfect surgeries for IPD, forehead, balding.

Ipd box osteotomies.Forehead implants and HT/Hair systems

Even LL (surgery, which has the greatest possible effect of all) demands a high sacrifice that most people would not be able to undergo.

U can get it for 20K in india

 

[Deleted member 5521]

I would say improving looks is about the same difficulty as improving "personality". The problem is that looks is a PHYSICAL struggle, while personality is a MENTAL struggle.

People on this forum give you all kinds of tips on how to improve your skin, face, body and those tips will work for almost everyone.

However for personality it isnt something you can substantially improve by reading any guide, because it is your own personal battle that you must do by yourself to truly change becuz everyone has their own problems and 95% of people dont understand that.

 

[Deleted member 2403]

false, there are many things in the skull or on the body that cannot be changed yet, you know that. And if you have this flaws, you probably cant be truly GL.


no surgery for downturned medial canthus
no surgery for downward growth
no surgery for long midface
no surgery for cranial base or skull
no surgery for PFL
no surgery for colored eyes (yet)

and not very functional and perfect surgeries for IPD, forehead, balding.

Even LL (surgery, which has the greatest possible effect of all) demands a high sacrifice that most people would not be able to undergo.

or asymmetry

 

[Deleted member 9670]

or asymmetry

makinithappenmaxx

 

[thecel]

no surgery for downward growth
no surgery for long midface

no surgery for cranial base or skull

 

[thecel]

or asymmetry

 

[Deleted member 2403]

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first girl had hazel eyes so stacy in before

 

[Deleted member 9670]

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you don't even mew this is all rotter cope you'll never get any of these surgeries

 

[Deleted member 4430]

Epicathoplasty from dr z.

Mlf3,High cut leforts and midface implants

that doesnt solve the whole wrong direction of growth, just recession.

Depends On which part of midface ur referring to but there are a few ways of getting around it

if your nose is vertically long as my avi, then there is no way around it.

There are a workarounds actually. Infact surgeymaxx is offering pfl widening in the future soon

pipedream

Stroma and there's also a clinic in Mexico that does iris implants

STROMA may come out, but ok. not that their results, what they shows meant that you could go from dark deathnic eyes to light blue ones.

Ipd box osteotomies.Forehead implants and HT/Hair systems

that's why I wrote that these are not perfect surgeries, really OBO is the most providable, but do you really want to have silicone on your forehead?

Transplantation usually looks like shit and you will never have the right density and quality of hair like a normal person. The hair system is ok, but its the same type of fraud as lifts.

U can get it for 20K in india

I'm not talking about the price, but about the fact that recovery after surgery takes a lot of time, efford, even mentally and in the meantime you may never do some sports again.

 

[thecel]

you don't even mew this is all rotter cope you'll never get any of these surgeries

I learned to never ask this forum for help with my real problems. My wisdom teeth asymmetry thread got ZERO reacts, but shitposts get like 50 reacts.

 

[Deleted member 9670]

I learned to never ask this forum for help with my real problems. My wisdom teeth asymmetry thread got ZERO reacts, but shitposts get like 50 reacts.

no one gets reacts asking for help, ur a react whore

 

[thecel]

I'm not talking about the price, but about the fact that recovery after surgery takes a lot of time, efford, even mentally and in the meantime you may never do some sports again.

And who cares? Some users admitted they'd rather be a wheelchair-bound, paralyzed Chad than a fully-abled incel. Us looksmaxxers are willing to sacrifice everything to be Chad.

 

[thecel]

no one gets reacts asking for help,

Sad state of the forum. We reward shitposting not looksmaxxing effort (unless someone self-installs MSE or some shit).

Why do threads in which users whine about being subhumans get more views, replies, and reacts than threads in which users seek out knowledge to help them looksmax for real?

 

[Deleted member 4430]

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bruh really? you're greycel that you think Lefort I impaction, can get you from this to that

 

[Deleted member 9670]

Sad state of the forum. We reward shitposting not looksmaxxing effort (unless someone self-installs MSE or some shit).

looksmaxxing effort does get reacts just not questions

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1) Gained 8 kgs - Visited a dietologist because was underweight. (8% body fat is a meme in the first photo i was actually 8% bf ) 2) Minoxidil on hairs and eyebrows ( still looking to obtain Finasteride) 3) Sleep max 4) Anti delressant and Benzodiazepines 5) Black Dye 6) Dandelion Root to...

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[thecel]

bruh really? you're greycel that you think Lefort I impaction, can get you from this to that

Le Fort 1 Impaction is for midfaces that're long/tall in height (downward-grown and downswung aren't the same). Bimax CCW is for recessed and downswung midfaces.

Bimax CCW

 

[thecel]

looksmaxxing effort does get reacts just not questions

6 months looksmax progress | Looksmax.org - Men's Self-Improvement & Aesthetics

1) Gained 8 kgs - Visited a dietologist because was underweight. (8% body fat is a meme in the first photo i was actually 8% bf ) 2) Minoxidil on hairs and eyebrows ( still looking to obtain Finasteride) 3) Sleep max 4) Anti delressant and Benzodiazepines 5) Black Dye 6) Dandelion Root to...

looksmax.org

That's looksmaxxing RESULTS. Looksmaxxing effort by itself doesn't get reacts.

We should be more like Stack Exchange and encourage upvoting good questions.

 

[Deleted member 4430]

Le Fort 1 Impaction is for long midfaces (downward-grown and downswung aren't the same). Bimax CCW is for recessed and downswung midfaces.

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Bimax CCW

yes, but you show that in your post, what i reply to.
You cant rotate maxilla / cranial base like this with any fucking lefort

 

[6’2]

Looking like Gandy is literally easier to achieve than a personality change.

JFL if you think you can go from

to

simply not possible.

Whereas you can inject T or another exogenous mood altering substance and either accentuate existing personality character or change them, or simply a change of mindset/setting. While I do believe a significant genetic component dictates personality, epigenetics says that the environment (upbringing) has significant element as well, which means change is possible as the brain is highly malleable. I would further argue most people are born neither ‘good’ or ‘bad’, these largely depend on values taught.

 

[thecel]

JFL if you think you can go from

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to

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simply not possible.

Whereas you can inject T or another exogenous mood altering substance and either accentuate existing personality character or change them, or simply a change of mindset/setting. While I do believe a significant genetic component dictates personality, epigenetics says that the environment (upbringing) has significant element as well, which means change is possible as the brain is highly malleable. I would further argue most people are born neither ‘good’ or ‘bad’, these largely depend on values taught.

Maybe that's not possible yet, but going from me to this—

—is possible.

 

[6’2]

Maybe that isn't possible yet, but going from me to this—

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—is possible.

Then do it. Just break every bone in your skull theory. Even if you attempted such an impossible feat you will unlikely even be able to function afterward with current technology due to nerve connections and open space remaining.

 

[thecel]

in our current looks-centric world, any subhuman can just get Le Fort 3 and move on with their lives

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[Tallooksmaxxer]

Le Fort 1 Impaction is for midfaces that're long/tall in height (downward-grown and downswung aren't the same). Bimax CCW is for recessed and downswung midfaces.

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Bimax CCW

so what should i get for a long midface?

i am recessed, so do you think i am likely to be downswung?

 

[Birdcell]

I will become Chad Insha'allah