im not knowledgeable/new on dosing for anabolic and peps, need help

[AtrophicPyra]

I asked chatgpt and this is what it gave me, i rechecked these and noticed some were off but i was wondering if you guys can lmk ur opinions on what doses are optimal and what doses aren't, im kind of new to the dosing part but ik what each one does.

 

[jailcel]

dont trust gpt
if u cant be bothered to do ur own research you dont deserve it nigga

 

[India lover 52]

I asked chatgpt and this is what it gave me, i rechecked these and noticed some were off but i was wondering if you guys can lmk ur opinions on what doses are optimal and what doses aren't, im kind of new to the dosing part but ik what each one does.

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nigga are you fucking running a hcg cycle

 

[AtrophicPyra]

dont trust gpt
if u cant be bothered to do ur own research you dont deserve it nigga

ik what each of them do and how they work i just dont know how much to take its a common question jfl

 

[AtrophicPyra]

nigga are you fucking running a hcg cycle

no i just want the dosing to everything i might take in the near future, im not taking cjc and hgh together

 

[jailcel]

ik what each of them do and how they work i just dont know how much to take its a common question jfl

ok well how old are you

 

[vi24v_]

I asked chatgpt and this is what it gave me, i rechecked these and noticed some were off but i was wondering if you guys can lmk ur opinions on what doses are optimal and what doses aren't, im kind of new to the dosing part but ik what each one does.

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GPT is gna give u low ass doses 1-2ius a day of hgh ain’t doing shit u need at least 7-8

 

[AtrophicPyra]

ok well how old are you

15-16 near birthday

 

[jailcel]

15-16 near birthday

bone age?

 

[AtrophicPyra]

not sure

 

[India lover 52]

no i just want the dosing to everything i might take in the near future, im not taking cjc and hgh together

forget all the gh secretegauges just run 8 ius of growth way cheaper and 10x more effective, dont run arimidex unless you get itchy nipples/gyno estrogen is anabolic and important for brain health/development.

swap clomid for enclomiphine more effective and less sides

dsip is just a waste of money run 100mg melatonin instead better for sleep and is an antioxidant

btw whats your actual cycle these are just the ancillaries

 

[AtrophicPyra]

forget all the gh secretegauges just run 8 ius of growth way cheaper and 10x more effective, dont run arimidex unless you get itchy nipples/gyno estrogen is anabolic and important for brain health/development.

swap clomid for enclomiphine more effective and less sides

dsip is just a waste of money run 100mg melatonin instead better for sleep and is an antioxidant

btw whats your actual cycle these are just the ancillaries

taking test testosterone enanthate or cypionate, and arimidex when you start seeing estrogenic side effects, then taking HCG during whole cycle and months after, then clomiphene or tamoxifenc as a pct just to be safe(for short period of time), i was going to take cjc and ipamorelin bec i dont wanna take hgh incase i get organ overgrowth but maybe ill change my mind, and btw im taking arimidex so all the estrogen from test doesnt stunt my growth and close my growth plates early, bpc157, and dsip bec your body can get dependent on melatonin

 

[India lover 52]

taking test testosterone enanthate or cypionate, and arimidex when you start seeing estrogenic side effects, then taking HCG during whole cycle and months after, then clomiphene or tamoxifenc as a pct just to be safe(for short period of time), i was going to take cjc and ipamorelin bec i dont wanna take hgh incase i get organ overgrowth but maybe ill change my mind, and btw im taking arimidex so all the estrogen from test doesnt stunt my growth and close my growth plates early, bpc157, and dsip bec your body can get dependent on melatonin

hgh doesn't grow your organs excessive organ growth has only been documented in bodybuilders running 10+ ius year round while abusing insulin, clomid is literally enclo plus zuclomiphene which activates your estrogen receptors and causes alot of sides and has a halflife of weeks and should never be used in males


idk how bpc relates to sleep but getting dependent on melatonin doesn't matter because you can just not take it for a couple nights and completly reset your dependency and it also doubles as an antioxidant which protects you from oxidative stress on cycle, if you really want to run dsip you can do both also melatonin powder is dirt cheap you can get multiple years worth for 20 dollars


also what dose of test are you gonna run?

 

[AtrophicPyra]

hgh doesn't grow your organs excessive organ growth has only been documented in bodybuilders running 10+ ius year round while abusing insulin, clomid is literally enclo plus zuclomiphene which activates your estrogen receptors and causes alot of sides and has a halflife of weeks and should never be used in males


idk how bpc relates to sleep but getting dependent on melatonin doesn't matter because you can just not take it for a couple nights and completly reset your dependency and it also doubles as an antioxidant which protects you from oxidative stress on cycle, if you really want to run dsip you can do both also melatonin powder is dirt cheap you can get multiple years worth for 20 dollars


also what dose of test are you gonna run?

is there a study for your first claim, also mb i just added bpc157 randomly next to dsip, i added bpc157 because of the healing and recovery affects. and for the melatonin, not taking it for multiple nights to reset dependency, that would be torture esp if u took 100mg your gonna practically not sleep for multiple nights in a row. i also looked into melatonin and there is a study showing it contributes to heart disease and failure so idk but for the pct's r there any that dont activate estrogen receptors in most tissue? im going to run 350mg of testosterone e

 

[India lover 52]

is there a study for your first claim, also mb i just added bpc157 randomly next to dsip, i added bpc157 because of the healing and recovery affects. and for the melatonin, not taking it for multiple nights to reset dependency, that would be torture esp if u took 100mg your gonna practically not sleep for multiple nights in a row. i also looked into melatonin and there is a study showing it contributes to heart disease and failure so idk but for the pct's r there any that dont activate estrogen receptors in most tissue? im going to run 350mg of testosterone e

Theres never been a study done on supraphysiologic HGH use but pretty much every single athlete in the world is on hgh and i know multiple people irl on 6+ ius who have had 0 organ growth.

For the melatonin dependency theres no need to ever go off it but if you want to for some reason you can just use dsip or any benzo/downer for a couple nights to sleep if you have trouble without melatonin

As i said enclomiphene is a better pct drug than clomid and most steroid sources have it but you can buy it from most research chem sites if your source doesn't have it

350 is a moderate to low dose you probably won't need an AI if your a low aromatizer but i would even add in some anavar or tbol the last 6 weeks or up the dose slightly depending on how you react to it

also melatonin lowers HR causes vasodilation and lowers blood pressure, if your not on cycle that could negatively contribute to heart health but steroids raise resting HR, constrict blood vessels and raise blood pressure which means melatonin is good for your heart on cycle

 

[AtrophicPyra]

Theres never been a study done on supraphysiologic HGH use but pretty much every single athlete in the world is on hgh and i know multiple people irl on 6+ ius who have had 0 organ growth.

For the melatonin dependency theres no need to ever go off it but if you want to for some reason you can just use dsip or any benzo/downer for a couple nights to sleep if you have trouble without melatonin

As i said enclomiphene is a better pct drug than clomid and most steroid sources have it but you can buy it from most research chem sites if your source doesn't have it

350 is a moderate to low dose you probably won't need an AI if your a low aromatizer but i would even add in some anavar or tbol the last 6 weeks or up the dose slightly depending on how you react to it

also melatonin lowers HR causes vasodilation and lowers blood pressure, if your not on cycle that could negatively contribute to heart health but steroids raise resting HR, constrict blood vessels and raise blood pressure which means melatonin is good for yo

ig ill get on hgh 5 ius maybe 6 but how does the dependency of melatonin kind of work? isn't it the more you take and the longer u take it the more dependent u get? i heard when u r dependent and stop taking it makes u basically not sleep at all. and what mechanism makes dsip benzo/downer and melatonin work differently? btw how do u know the people yk irl have no organ overgrowth do they test it?

 

[ilovearcherqueen]

I asked chatgpt and this is what it gave me, i rechecked these and noticed some were off but i was wondering if you guys can lmk ur opinions on what doses are optimal and what doses aren't, im kind of new to the dosing part but ik what each one does.

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Use the Gpt to know how shit works/what does it do and theoretically speaking what happens if you were to take it at a certain dose. I wouldnt use it to dose, i would just go on forums and see the normal dosage. use the lowest dose, then build my way up.

 

[India lover 52]

ig ill get on hgh 5 ius maybe 6 but how does the dependency of melatonin kind of work? isn't it the more you take and the longer u take it the more dependent u get? i heard when u r dependent and stop taking it makes u basically not sleep at all. and what mechanism makes dsip benzo/downer and melatonin work differently? btw how do u know the people yk irl have no organ overgrowth do they test it?

I mean their gut hasn't grown visibly im sure its possible their organs might have grown a couple grams but it doesn't get harmful unless your abusing gh for years or use it with insulin but thats the risk you take increasing your igf1 levels, secretagauges are not any safer they just increase igf1 less than real gh which is why they are marketed as safer but in reality its the same thing as gh just less effective and therefore less chance of sides

supplementing melatonin just downregulates your natural melatonin production like using hgh and testosterone does but it comes back after not using it for a couple days

DSIP appears to regulate the CNS but its not well researched and the exact mechanisms of action arn't completely known

benzos, alcohol and most downers activate the GABA receptor which also calms your cns which is also why benzos are the first line treatment for stimulant overdoses

aytypical downers have different mechanism like gabapentin and pregab that block calcium channel signaling and decrease excitatory neurotransmitters like adrenaline which also calms your cns

the reason theres no cross dependency is because downers calm your cns and melatonin just activates mt1 and mt2 receptors