I'm probably one of the most knowledgeable members on steroids here. Ask Me Anything

I suggest you stop taking irrelevant drugs and ruining your health for no ZERO return
Why are you so against AI?
Im also taking it for the test boosting effects and having high estrogen is bad in general

The side effects your talking about and "ruined" endocrine system is only if you crash your estrogen levels. Im bringing mine down to 13-15 pg/ml which is normal levels for teenagers, and can still be used for other funcitons in the bodies
 
I suggest you stop taking irrelevant drugs and ruining your health for no ZERO return
Also fine ill stop talking about the heightmaxxing shit

Im considering taking DNP to cut down on face fat since I cant regularly just go on a calorie deficit because I will stunt my growth. Got any advice. Also dont talk about the health hazards and shit because im already studying it and all the proper precuautions to take to not shutdown my test
 
Why are you so against AI?
Im also taking it for the test boosting effects and having high estrogen is bad in general

The side effects your talking about and "ruined" endocrine system is only if you crash your estrogen levels. Im bringing mine down to 13-15 pg/ml which is normal levels for teenagers, and can still be used for other funcitons in the bodies
1) Where on Earty did you hear that Aromatase Inhibitors significantly boost test levels. It just barely does that, too little to be worth all the crazy side effects when there are other safer, effective and simpler methods, supplements and medicines available.

2) Do you have high estrogen? No. Did you get any blood tests? No. And honestly, having estrogen levels in the high end of the referance range is ideal. Espeacially for muscle gains.

3) If you take Letrozole at almost any dose you have crushed your estrogen. And how the flying fuck do you know how much you're bringing your estrogen?

You dont know what you are doing whatsoever. Put it this way, did you know smoking cigarettes increases testosterone (so much more than any AI could). (Nicotine inhibits cytochrome P450 Enzyme CYP3A4 for which testosterone is a substrate. Since CYP3A4 (which metabolises testosterone) is reduced, blood levels of testosterone rise.).

What you are basically doing is smoking 2 packets of cigarettes a day just to boost your testosterone production. Thats how retarded taking letrozole of all AIs for height gains.
 
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1) Where on Earty did you hear that Aromatase Inhibitors significantly boost test levels. It just barely does that, too little to be worth all the crazy side effects when there are other safer, effective and simpler methods, supplements and medicines available.

2) Do you have high estrogen? No. Did you get any blood tests? No. And honestly, having estrogen levels in the high end of the referance range is ideal. Espeacially for muscle gains.

3) If you take Letrozole at almost any dose you have crushed your estrogen. And how the flying fuck do you know how much you're bringing your estrogen?

You dont know what you are doing whatsoever. Put it this way, did you know smoking cigarettes increases testosterone (so much more than any AI could). (Nicotine inhibits cytochrome P450 Enzyme CYP3A4 for which testosterone is a substrate. Since CYP3A4 (which metabolises testosterone) is reduced, blood levels of testosterone rise.).

What you are basically doing is smoking 2 packets of cigarettes a day just to boost your testosterone production. Thats how retarded taking letrozole of all AIs for height gains.
Theres many studies on it bro and your right i probally shouldve got blood test before I started taking AI but im getting some soon. Also how the fuck is having high estrogen levels ideal, maybe for adults but going into puberty with high estrogen is instant suicide

Also AI's increase test way more then smoking cigs so dont know where you got that from

Plus they are commonly used for increasing final adult height in studies on children with short stature
 
Also fine ill stop talking about the heightmaxxing shit

Im considering taking DNP to cut down on face fat since I cant regularly just go on a calorie deficit because I will stunt my growth. Got any advice. Also dont talk about the health hazards and shit because im already studying it and all the proper precuautions to take to not shutdown my test
Well, clearly you have studied fuck all because DNP has nothing to do with androgen receptors or the endocrine system...

Dude I dont even know where to begin on this point. It doesnt work like that. Losing weight is simply consuming less/burning more calories than you are expending/intaking. If you are still in a calorie surplus after the DNP, you wont lose bodyfat.

What i'm tryna say is, you can't lose weight on DNP and be in a calorie surplus which can help you to keep gaining height. Its like how you cant keep spending on a credit card without getting into debt.

You can't be in a calorie deficit in some places and a calorie surplus in another.

If you wanna lose weight with DNP by being in an overall caloric deficit, you gotta risk your height gains.

You clearly dont know what you are doing.
 
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Theres many studies on it bro and your right i probally shouldve got blood test before I started taking AI but im getting some soon. Also how the fuck is having high estrogen levels ideal, maybe for adults but going into puberty with high estrogen is instant suicide

Also AI's increase test way more then smoking cigs so dont know where you got that from

Plus they are commonly used for increasing final adult height in studies on children with short stature
Having high estrogen (as long as its between the reference range) is ideal for any teenager or adult for growing and building muscle.

Dude. I'm TELLING YOU that nicotine can boost test levels higher than an AI can without all shitty side effects as well. Nicotine is considered a potent CYP3A4 inhibatory and so is Grapefruit Juice.

Bro I'm not gonna go on forever with this. You seem to be pretty encapsulated in your own presuppositions which are just not objectively true. I'm gonna drop the conversation now. Good luck.
 
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Hey before I ask my question I just want to say thanks for taking the time out of your day to help everyone. With that being said I like the facial masculanizing effects T has but I don’t want to stay on it lifelong, I’ve seen dbol maintain looks pretty well considering all old school bodybuilders look mogger but I’m wondering if Dbol should be run with anything else and optimal dosage?
 
Hey before I ask my question I just want to say thanks for taking the time out of your day to help everyone. With that being said I like the facial masculanizing effects T has but I don’t want to stay on it lifelong, I’ve seen dbol maintain looks pretty well considering all old school bodybuilders look mogger but I’m wondering if Dbol should be run with anything else and optimal dosage?
Personally, I wouldnt take Dbol. It causes a lot of bloat and estrogenic side effects. It appearently does have the best mental effects as some people claim to feel like Kings while on it. In terms of masculinisation, your DHTs are gonna be the strongest. Masteron, Superdrol, Winstrol ect. Dbol needs to be run with testosterone just like any other oral. You are also gonna need some aromasin and its best to have nolvadex on hand. Dosage is around 30mg per day.
 
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Personally, I wouldnt take Dbol. It causes a lot of bloat and estrogenic side effects. It appearently does have the best mental effects as some people claim to feel like Kings while on it. In terms of masculinisation, your DHTs are gonna be the strongest. Masteron, Superdrol, Winstrol ect. Dbol needs to be run with testosterone just like any other oral. You are also gonna need some aromasin and its best to have nolvadex on hand. Dosage is around 30mg per day.
oh also I’ve heard rumors of “gyno cycles” where the whole purpose is to get rid of pubertal gyno with what I assume is more than just roloxafine, do you know anything about that?
 
oh also I’ve heard rumors of “gyno cycles” where the whole purpose is to get rid of pubertal gyno with what I assume is more than just roloxafine, do you know anything about that?
I've only heard of raloxifine being used alone. I forget the dosage and duration though
 
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Do you know some good high quality UK UGLs or pharma Grace sources ? Don’t care about the cost.
 
Southern Ghost
Chilton
Chiron
Viogen
Dunning
 
what do u think is the best pubertymaxxing steroid besides test
 
Having high estrogen (as long as its between the reference range) is ideal for any teenager or adult for growing and building muscle.

Dude. I'm TELLING YOU that nicotine can boost test levels higher than an AI can without all shitty side effects as well. Nicotine is considered a potent CYP3A4 inhibatory and so is Grapefruit Juice.

Bro I'm not gonna go on forever with this. You seem to be pretty encapsulated in your own presuppositions which are just not objectively true. I'm gonna drop the conversation now. Good luck.
I have high estrogen and test. My estrogen is above the ref range. Why do you say high estrogen is optimal? Naturally shouldn’t it be at the lower end. Yes. I did get tested twice.
 
what do u think is the best pubertymaxxing steroid besides test
We dont really take steroids to "pubertymax" but I'd think Masterone would be the best.
 
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I have high estrogen and test. My estrogen is above the ref range. Why do you say high estrogen is optimal? Naturally shouldn’t it be at the lower end. Yes. I did get tested twice.
As long as its not outside the reference range, you're good.
 
Natural hormones do effect hairloss. The reason steroids increase hairloss is because you are using so much more hormone. Also, naturally, we only produce a small amount of DHT that gets converted from testosterone. When people administer exogenous AAS, they often take oral or injectable DHT in high amounts. DHT is a big cause of hairloss.
no high t highschool mogger or high t man 100 year ago had acne
 
Natural hormones do effect hairloss. The reason steroids increase hairloss is because you are using so much more hormone. Also, naturally, we only produce a small amount of DHT that gets converted from testosterone. When people administer exogenous AAS, they often take oral or injectable DHT in high amounts. DHT is a big cause of hairloss.
if i took test base would there be any sides
 
if i took test base would there be any sides
Nah. If you in the reference range you're good. The testosterone we inject is bio-identical to the natural testosterone we make. If its the same thing, in similar quantities, like it would be on TRT, then there are no side effects to worry about
 
You could run 500mg testosterone alone. 15lbs over 16 months on a first cycle is attainable. I'd bulk throughout. You dont need another AAS for cutting unless you're doing a cut. Wether your bulking or cutting depends mainly on your calorie consumption. You can bulk on primobolan and cut on dianabol if you wanted to. Not saying some steroids arent better for certain goals then others, i'm just saying its not the be-all-end-all
Is mk 677 plus aromasin for height cope its only thing i can get as my mom is giga suspicious of needles
 
Nah. If you in the reference range you're good. The testosterone we inject is bio-identical to the natural testosterone we make. If its the same thing, in similar quantities, like it would be on TRT, then there are no side effects to worry about
so wides ONLY happen once i go above normal possible ranges? like if im at 900ng dl im good? could i use kisspeptin 10 instead of pinning test also?
 
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so wides ONLY happen once i go above normal possible ranges? like if im at 900ng dl im good? could i use kisspeptin 10 instead of pinning test also?
900ng/dl is fine. Dont know too much about the kisspeptin peptide
 
bruh, anyways i take 12,5mg exemstane and 1,25mg letrozole a day, thouughts?
You're retarded and you're fucking yourself up for benefits so small we dont even know if they exist
 
900ng/dl is fine. Dont know too much about the kisspeptin peptide
it increases natural production by as much as you want (the more kp10 you pin the more test you make
 
it increases natural production by as much as you want (the more kp10 you pin the more test you make
If your Kisspeptin raises your testosterone levels over the referance range enough, then yeah, you'll have some side effects with that.
 
my natty e2 was 23 something few months agom my levels are low anyway, low e2 just means higher test production
It doesnt mean higher test production. It means more test in the system since less will be converted into estrogen not because your balls start making more. And its a small increase in testosterone levels. Drinking grapefruit juice can increase test way higher than that.
 
It doesnt mean higher test production. It means more test in the system since less will be converted into estrogen not because your balls start making more. And its a small increase in testosterone levels. Drinking grapefruit juice can increase test way higher than that.
how does grapes do that? and yes it does mean higher test production since feedback loop
 
what age to start ur first cycle
 
how does grapes do that? and yes it does mean higher test production since feedback loop
Grapefruit juice inhibits P450 enzyme CYP3A4. CYP3A4 is the enzyme that metabolises testosterone, or you could say it takes testosterone out of the blood. When the testosterone is out of the blood its inactive. So, because grapefruit juice inhibits the thing that inhibits testosterone, grapefruit juice actually raises testosterone levels.

Explain this feedback loop thing to me. How does aromatase inhibitors do that?
 
No aromatase inhibitors.
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Grapefruit juice inhibits P450 enzyme CYP3A4. CYP3A4 is the enzyme that metabolises testosterone, or you could say it takes testosterone out of the blood. When the testosterone is out of the blood its inactive. So, because grapefruit juice inhibits the thing that inhibits testosterone, grapefruit juice actually raises testosterone levels.

Explain this feedback loop thing to me. How does aromatase inhibitors do that?
test -> becomes estrogen -> goes to brain -> binds to receptor in brain -> brain sees estrogen is present -> says make less test basically how enclomiphene works
 
test -> becomes estrogen -> goes to brain -> binds to receptor in brain -> brain sees estrogen is present -> says make less test basically how enclomiphene works
If that worked the way you seem to think it does then nobody would use steroids. They'd just use aromatase inhibitors and boost their testosterone levels to steroid dosages. The increases in testosterone from aromatase inhibitor administration arent nearly as high as you seem to think it is. Sure, you'll halt the negative feedback loop, that doesnt mean the HPTA becomes a positive feedback loop.
 
If that worked the way you seem to think it does then nobody would use steroids. They'd just use aromatase inhibitors and boost their testosterone levels to steroid dosages. The increases in testosterone from aromatase inhibitor administration arent nearly as high as you seem to think it is. Sure, you'll halt the negative feedback loop, that doesnt mean the HPTA becomes a positive feedback loop.
there are thousands of feedback loops, doesnt mean that it wont increase test by a little
 

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