Imagine getting texts like this

[DoctorLooksmax]

England is the ugliest country in the west the average scandi normie and that nigga bunny would slay

there is 0 chance the average scandi normie would slay. People are probs abit better looking on average but still you need a specific pheno to be succesfull here which 95% of nordics lack

 

[Deleted member 15569]

Ugliest on average by miles but that means fuck all
The 1-2% of men that slay are all love island maxxed roided gigajocks or ultrawealthy gigaframe+height rugby slayers distantly related to the monarchy that make other men look like an absolute joke

roided normies

there is 0 chance the average scandi normie would slay. People are probs abit better looking on average but still you need a specific pheno to be succesfull here which 95% of nordics lack

Face Over everything

 

[geezcel]

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roided normies

Face Over everything

aspie freak u lad

 

[Deleted member 15569]

aspie freak u lad

cope the average brit is close to deformed and a htn nordic would slay u have no idea How ugly brits are compared to other euros

 

[DoctorLooksmax]

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roided normies

Face Over everything

And yeah those guys in the picture are the exact pheno I’m talking about when I refer to a UK club slayer tbh.

If you’re like me and look decent but don’t fit that pheno you have to try and find a niche where you can be successfull

 

[DoctorLooksmax]

cope the average brit is close to deformed and a htn nordic would slay u have no idea How ugly brits are compared to other euros

UK is full of other euros these days anyway especially london

Women looks better on avg but not sure men do. UK men might even look better

 

[Deleted member 15569]

And yeah those guys in the picture are the exact pheno I’m talking about when I refer to a UK club slayer tbh.

If you’re like me and look decent but don’t fit that pheno you have to try and find a niche where you can be successfull

seems Like from the other thread op posted they are roided spray tanned normies with nt clothes and haircut. unless ur giga manlet or ugly it should be possible where as here face which its much Harder to change is king.

 

[DoctorLooksmax]

seems Like from the other thread op posted they are roided spray tanned normies with nt clothes and haircut. unless ur giga manlet or ugly it should be possible where as here face which its much Harder to change is king.

Okay you make a reasonable point there

I think what people are getting at when they say it’s hard is it’s more about fitting a particular pheno than being really high PSL.

I mean take those 4 Birmingham lads , the one of the far right is really good looking like chad tier imo but the other 3 are all probs like low-mid tier normies by PSL scale. But I gursntee anyone of them would do better than some 19 yo twink pretty boy Nordic in a UK club. The twink pretty boy Nordic could probs get a hotter girl but he wouldn’t have the broad appeal those guys do

Anyway I’m curious what would you rate those 4 lads in the brummie pic, left to right?

And do you think they’d do well in other euro countries

 

[ChickenAndRiceBrah]

Okay you make a reasonable point there

I think what people are getting at when they say it’s hard is it’s more about fitting a particular pheno than being really high PSL.

I mean take those 4 Birmingham lads , the one of the far right is really good looking like chad tier imo but the other 3 are all probs like low-mid tier normies by PSL scale. But I gursntee anyone of them would do better than some 19 yo twins pretty boy Nordic in a UK club. The twins pretty boy Nordic could probs get a hotter girl but he wouldn’t have the broad appeal those guys do

Anyway I’m curious what would you rate those 4 lads in the brummie pic, left to right?

And do you think they’d do well in other euro countries

Pretty boys have 0 appeal in the UK nightlife scene and very limited on dating apps only until their early 20s at most

 

[DoctorLooksmax]

Pretty boys have 0 appeal in the UK nightlife scene and very limited on dating apps only until their early 20s at most

I’m not sure I agree on the dating apps side of thing

Let me dm you my pics actually I want to know what pheno you class me as. I do reasonably well on dating apps in Uk but far from chad

I think I lean on shirtless selfie game tho

 

[Bvnny.]

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So, UK starterpack to slay:

- Artificial Tan
- Roids
- Chav haircut
- Stylish Clothes
- Lifts probably (jfl they all look like they're wearing heightmaxxing sneakers)

If so, it doesn't seem impossible to slay in the UK, but you probably need to get rid of everything that makes you authentic, so it might not be worth it (unless you naturally have no "self" to preserve in the first place).

 

[ChickenAndRiceBrah]

I’m not sure I agree on the dating apps side of thing

Let me dm you my pics actually I want to know what pheno you class me as. I do reasonably well on dating apps in Uk but far from chad

I think I lean on shirtless selfie game tho

If it wasn't for shirtless pics I would have had fuck all on tinder tbh

 

[DoctorLooksmax]

So, UK starterpack to slay:

- Artificial Tan
- Roids
- Chav haircut
- Stylish Clothes
- Lifts probably (jfl they all look like they're wearing heightmaxxing sneakers)

If so, it doesn't seem impossible to slay in the UK, but you probably need to get rid of everything that makes you authentic, so it might not be worth it (unless you naturally have no "self" to preserve in the first place).

Pretty much yeah- oh you can try and run niche game with the 5-10% of girls who don’t go specifically for that pheno lol

 

[geezcel]

So, UK starterpack to slay:

- Artificial Tan
- Roids
- Chav haircut
- Stylish Clothes
- Lifts probably (jfl they all look like they're wearing heightmaxxing sneakers)

If so, it doesn't seem impossible to slay in the UK, but you probably need to get rid of everything that makes you authentic, so it might not be worth it (unless you naturally have no "self" to preserve in the first place).

tbf there’s niches here if you have a certain look, I’m far removed from that look in terms of aesthetics. you just have to mog others in your niche.
most ppl in this country with my hair length look like rats so I only need to compete with them for certain types of girls that like mid length hair vibe. and it’s not hard to mog in your niche when most ppl in it don’t even try. so it’s hard as fuck if you’re not nichemaxxed and competing with large framed skin fade type lads

 

[DoctorLooksmax]

tbf there’s niches here if you have a certain look, I’m far removed from that look in terms of aesthetics. you just have to mog others in your niche.
most ppl in this country with my hair length look like rats so I only need to compete with them for certain types of girls that like mid length hair vibe. and it’s not hard to mog in your niche when most ppl in it don’t even try. so it’s hard as fuck if you’re not nichemaxxed and competing with large framed skin fade type lads

This is true but If running niche game you’ll have to accept you’ll never have particularly broad appeal and therefore prepare for a hell of a lot of rejection in nightlife environments.

But you can probs end up with a hotter girl using niche game overall perhaps - I really don’t find the typical fake tan bimbo look appealing . It’s weird though because a lot of guys seem to like it

 

[forevergymcelling]

tbf there’s niches here if you have a certain look, I’m far removed from that look in terms of aesthetics. you just have to mog others in your niche.
most ppl in this country with my hair length look like rats so I only need to compete with them for certain types of girls that like mid length hair vibe. and it’s not hard to mog in your niche when most ppl in it don’t even try. so it’s hard as fuck if you’re not nichemaxxed and competing with large framed skin fade type lads

I just want to have big ass, big tits Stacy appeal

I don't want to have to run fucking niche game!

 

[DoctorLooksmax]

I just want to have big ass, big tits Stacy appeal

I don't want to have to run fucking niche game!

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I will never ever ever fuck a guy with a body like that without paying for it

 

[forevergymcelling]

So, UK starterpack to slay:

- Artificial Tan
- Roids
- Chav haircut
- Stylish Clothes
- Lifts probably (jfl they all look like they're wearing heightmaxxing sneakers)

If so, it doesn't seem impossible to slay in the UK, but you probably need to get rid of everything that makes you authentic, so it might not be worth it (unless you naturally have no "self" to preserve in the first place).

UK slayer starter pack:

 

[Bvnny.]

tbf there’s niches here if you have a certain look, I’m far removed from that look in terms of aesthetics. you just have to mog others in your niche.
most ppl in this country with my hair length look like rats so I only need to compete with them for certain types of girls that like mid length hair vibe. and it’s not hard to mog in your niche when most ppl in it don’t even try. so it’s hard as fuck if you’re not nichemaxxed and competing with large framed skin fade type lads

The situation in the UK seems to be kinda similar to Brazil looking through those lenses, like, in Brazil we have a style with a wider appeal, which is that of "zé droguinhas", another terms for guys (highly mixed for the most part) which are known to take part in brazilian funk's festivals and slay a shit-ton of girls there... and then, for the ones that don't fit that archetype, they have to fit less broad niches, like that of metalheads, skaters, rave enjoyers, etc.

Like, I was never able to fit the "zé droguinha" archetype since I'm a white-brazilian, kinda wealthy and have straight hair, so I would have to pretend to be poorer and change my whole appearance for that:

Currently my looks fit multiple niches here, girls who are into "eboys" are generally into me, the ones that are into metalheads, surfers and skaters too (even tho I don't listen to metal or practice those sports, but I still fit the archetype it seems, lookswise), and I also receive female attention from lots of self-hating mulattas that see me as white.

 

[geezcel]

I just want to have big ass, big tits Stacy appeal

I don't want to have to run fucking niche game!

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[Deusmaximus]

Please show a picture of your friend.
Even the jaw only would be interesting.

 

[forevergymcelling]

Please show a picture of your friend.
Even the jaw only would be interesting.

Screenshot from a video

 

[Xangsane]

ill pm you

Me too pls

 

[Xangsane]

Honestly just nuke this gay earth

 

[stevielake]

@forevergymcelling Do you mog the Estonian?

 

[Xangsane]

Screenshot from a video

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Nuke this gay earth

 

[lilhorizontal32]

ill pm you

pm me also bro

 

[DoctorLooksmax]

Screenshot from a video

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More confirmation that it’s completely fucking over for small chin cels

 

[6ft4]

tbf there’s niches here if you have a certain look, I’m far removed from that look in terms of aesthetics. you just have to mog others in your niche.
most ppl in this country with my hair length look like rats so I only need to compete with them for certain types of girls that like mid length hair vibe. and it’s not hard to mog in your niche when most ppl in it don’t even try. so it’s hard as fuck if you’re not nichemaxxed and competing with large framed skin fade type lads

This is why I had to resort to fucking below average girls from clubs
I was trying to go for the look which led me to compete with the biggest moggers but at least it allowed me to avoid having to jestermax
That being said, any time I would hang around people who didn't value the sportsplayer look I would get fuck all attention
I spent a year living with house party having, drug taking guys and even though I had a big interest in techno music, no girl in that scene considered me to have status because I wasn't a DJ or mates of a DJ/dealer

There was one instance though where I went down to the kitchen at 2am because I needed to fit in a gymcel meal while there was a houseparty going on and some random girl began complimenting me/flirting with me but I was too sober and aspie to take advantage.
The guys I lived with started saying "who the fuck is she, why's she here" as if having a random girl in the house is a bad thing, it's only a bad thing when a girl considers the low status aspie as the genetically superior guy she chooses to flirt with

I went to a bar with a group of nerds last week from a meetup app and there was one hot girl there who was willing to speak on non NT topics
I've always felt more comfortable around nerds and admired how nerdy guys were able to get cute submissive girlfriends but had no clue how to go about it myself. As the convo went on I revealed some stuff about the sports that are popular where I'm from and what sports I've played myself but afterwards I questioned if that would mean the hot girl would now compare me to other sports playing jocks she knows that mog me rather than comparing me to nerds where I could potentially be deemed as a high LMS nerd

 

[DoctorLooksmax]

This is why I had to resort to fucking below average girls from clubs
I was trying to go for the look which led me to compete with the biggest moggers but at least it allowed me to avoid having to jestermax
That being said, any time I would hang around people who didn't value the sportsplayer look I would get fuck all attention
I spent a year living with house party having having, drug taking guys and even though I had a big interest in techno music, no girl in that scene considered me to have status because I wasn't a DJ or mates of a DJ/dealer

There was one instance though where I went down to the kitchen at 2am because I needed to fit in a gymcel meal while there was a houseparty going on and some random girl began complimenting me/flirting with me but I was too sober and aspie to take advantage.
The guys I lived with started saying "who the fuck is she, why's she here" as if having a random girl in the house is a bad thing, it's only a bad thing when a girl considers the low status aspie as the genetically superior guy she chooses to flirt with

I went to a bar with a group of nerds last week from a meetup app and there was one hot girl there who was willing to speak on non NT topics
I've always felt more comfortable around nerds and admired how nerdy guys were able to get cute submissive girlfriends but had no clue how to go about it myself. As the convo went on I revealed some stuff about the sports that are popular where I'm from and what sports I've played myself but afterwards I questioned if that would mean the hot girl would now compare me to other sports playing jocks she knows that mog me rather than comparing me to nerds where I could potentially be deemed as a high LMS nerd

I also spent uni hanging around with the druggy techno house party crowd and never got a single crumb of pussy from it.

It’s crazy how you’ve got to fit a girls type exactly for her to be attracted to you. I don’t really fit the jock type either but I do larp that I play rugby since I have good physique. I’ve also come to the conclusion that I’m better off trying to be some sort of high SMV nerd type than trying to compete with love island esque type guys for the usual high sex appeal phenos.

Atleast this way I have a chance to mog al the guys in a girls social circle and have a chance with her

 

[6ft4]

@forevergymcelling

You said there were student nights that were so bad where even your Chad mate got no IOIs
Do you think if he was low inhib and approached loads he could have slayed on those nights?
It is hard to comprehend how on one night his looks can be enough for a Stacey to beg to fuck and on other nights he can't even get an IOI, such is the state of UK clubbing

Also the story where the teen girl tells him "your face is literally perfect" is the most brutal imo

 

[Artiste]

Okay you make a reasonable point there

I think what people are getting at when they say it’s hard is it’s more about fitting a particular pheno than being really high PSL.

I mean take those 4 Birmingham lads , the one of the far right is really good looking like chad tier imo but the other 3 are all probs like low-mid tier normies by PSL scale. But I gursntee anyone of them would do better than some 19 yo twink pretty boy Nordic in a UK club. The twink pretty boy Nordic could probs get a hotter girl but he wouldn’t have the broad appeal those guys do

Anyway I’m curious what would you rate those 4 lads in the brummie pic, left to right?

And do you think they’d do well in other euro countries

What U.K. club are you talking about?

Pretty boys have 0 appeal in the UK nightlife scene and very limited on dating apps only until their early 20s at most

Not true at all in nightlife. Depends on where you go. Not sure about apps.

tbf there’s niches here if you have a certain look, I’m far removed from that look in terms of aesthetics. you just have to mog others in your niche.
most ppl in this country with my hair length look like rats so I only need to compete with them for certain types of girls that like mid length hair vibe. and it’s not hard to mog in your niche when most ppl in it don’t even try. so it’s hard as fuck if you’re not nichemaxxed and competing with large framed skin fade type lads

True just be best looking guy in your pheno theory.

@forevergymcelling

You said there were student nights that were so bad where even your Chad mate got no IOIs
Do you think if he was low inhib and approached loads he could have slayed on those nights?
It is hard to comprehend how on one night his looks can be enough for a Stacey to beg to fuck and on other nights he can't even get an IOI, such is the state of UK clubbing

Also the story where the teen girl tells him "your face is literally perfect" is the most brutal imo

Not every guy can get every girl even a “CHAD”. Student nights the girls only like the young pretty boy twink look. If you look old it would be off putting to them even if they’re “CHAD”.

Yeah I know a guy who’s a stereotypical club slayer, pulls like no tomorrow. It’s easy mode etc One night we went out, he was flying out of the gates, stares, IOI, you name it. I was “invisible”, so to speak. We decided to leave that place, as it wasn’t that busy, he was bored and wanted to try another venue. Went to another club, then he was invisible. I was getting the attention. It’s happens. Just go to place where your pheno is received better.

 

[DoctorLooksmax]

@forevergymcelling

You said there were student nights that were so bad where even your Chad mate got no IOIs
Do you think if he was low inhib and approached loads he could have slayed on those nights?
It is hard to comprehend how on one night his looks can be enough for a Stacey to beg to fuck and on other nights he can't even get an IOI, such is the state of UK clubbing

Also the story where the teen girl tells him "your face is literally perfect" is the most brutal imo

Why is it that the biggest ropefuel of all- is not hearing about how many girls these chads slay and the quality of them, but is intact the things the girls say to them and what they’re willing to do for them.

I truly am an abused dog

 

[Beetlejuice]

just up your game theory

 

[one job away]

From your Chad friend

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I was there when this happened. She literally cold appraoched him within 20 seconds of us entering the venue

She gave him her number and tried to make him reassure her that he will text her back; saying shit like "You're not gonna ghost me are you? Promise me you'll text me back"

I had never felt so cucked in my life. He only ended up fucking her once

She then texts him out the blue two years later







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@AscendingHero

Dm face of chad friend?

 

[forevergymcelling]

@forevergymcelling

You said there were student nights that were so bad where even your Chad mate got no IOIs
Do you think if he was low inhib and approached loads he could have slayed on those nights?
It is hard to comprehend how on one night his looks can be enough for a Stacey to beg to fuck and on other nights he can't even get an IOI, such is the state of UK clubbing

Also the story where the teen girl tells him "your face is literally perfect" is the most brutal imo

Yeah sometimes we'd both rage quit the club and kebabmax cause we couldn't cope. Happened often tbh, we mogged everyone in there and got absolutely nothing.

But I think a lot of it had to do with the town we were in. Our phenotypes are not desired in that freakshow/shithole of a place. I think if we went to uni up north, or literally anywhere else, we would've slayed 100x more than we did.

I think he would've done a lot better if he cold approached, definitely. A lot of the times girls would stare at him and he'd do nothing. Also he has the highest standards from any guy I've met. He is legit Stacylite+ or nothing; he'd rather go home and fap than fuck a sub stacylite

But there were times he would rage incredibly hard when I'd get IOIs and he didn't; or I got approached and he didn't. He mogged all his mates into the mud so wasn't used to things like that happening.

 

[ChickenAndRiceBrah]

Yeah sometimes we'd both rage quit the club and kebabmax cause we couldn't cope. Happened often tbh, we mogged everyone in there and got absolutely nothing.

But I think a lot of it had to do with the town we were in. Our phenotypes are not desired in that freakshow/shithole of a place. I think if we went to uni up north, or literally anywhere else, we would've slayed 100x more than we did.

I think he would've done a lot better if he cold approached, definitely. A lot of the times girls would stare at him and he'd do nothing. Also he has the highest standards from any guy I've met. He is legit Stacylite+ or nothing; he'd rather go home and fap than fuck a sub stacylite

But there were times he would rage incredibly hard when I'd get IOIs and he didn't; or I got approached and he didn't. He mogged all his mates into the mud so wasn't used to things like that happening.

Northern uni theory is legit
My shithole midlands uni was just bleak despite being in a decent sized city
When I went to see mates up in Leeds and Manchester it was completely different (back years before covid tho could be worse there by now as well)

 

[AscendingHero]

From your Chad friend

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I was there when this happened. She literally cold appraoched him within 20 seconds of us entering the venue

She gave him her number and tried to make him reassure her that he will text her back; saying shit like "You're not gonna ghost me are you? Promise me you'll text me back"

I had never felt so cucked in my life. He only ended up fucking her once

She then texts him out the blue two years later







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@AscendingHero

I remember this exact thread from Lookism buyo. Breaking back bangers, mirin you.

Yea that chick has an insane "physique" haha. The comments under this thread on lookism were funny af

Good times

 

[forevergymcelling]

Northern uni theory is legit
My shithole midlands uni was just bleak despite being in a decent sized city
When I went to see mates up in Leeds and Manchester it was completely different (back years before covid tho could be worse there by now as well)

Legit

I was treated like a slayer in Liverpool and Newcastle

But like you said this was all before covid. I'm considered incel tier now

 

[AscendingHero]

Most of this forum would lose their sanity if they experienced what I've experienced with this guy

What have you experienced with him? story suifuel inducing time?

@forevergymcelling

 

[forevergymcelling]

What havr you experienced with him? story suifuel inducing time?

Cba to write paragraphs rn but I found these other texts from a while back

He showed me a pic of the second girl and she was clean cut stacy tier who had just turned 18. @6ft4 Thats the one who said his face was literally perfect

 

[DoctorLooksmax]

Cba to write paragraphs rn but I found these other texts from a while back

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He showed me a pic of the second girl and she was clean cut stacy tier who had just turned 18. @6ft4 Thats the one who said his face was literally perfect

average men are literally getting used up cum rags 10 years post prime after slayers have been through then 100s of times

 

[Deleted member 16474]

Cba to write paragraphs rn but I found these other texts from a while back

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He showed me a pic of the second girl and she was clean cut stacy tier who had just turned 18. @6ft4 Thats the one who said his face was literally perfect

what kind of an immoral person talks like that, he sounds like his life revolves around "shagging women" he should get a hobby and act more mature

 

[Solidcoin]

Cba to write paragraphs rn but I found these other texts from a while back

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He showed me a pic of the second girl and she was clean cut stacy tier who had just turned 18. @6ft4 Thats the one who said his face was literally perfect

how do you cope with this shit?

your will to live is strong

 

[DoctorLooksmax]

what kind of an immoral person talks like that, he sounds like his life revolves around "shagging women" he should get a hobby and act more mature

he sounds like not a very nice person honestly

 

[AscendingHero]

Cba to write paragraphs rn but I found these other texts from a while back

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He showed me a pic of the second girl and she was clean cut stacy tier who had just turned 18. @6ft4 Thats the one who said his face was literally perfect

Just give up incels

Motivation to improve my lower third tbh

 

[forevergymcelling]

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how do you cope with this shit?
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This barely scratches the surface of what I've been through / witnessed after 3 years of living together

I became hardened by the trauma

It wasn't too bad cause I slayed my fair share too, but if I were incel I prob would've roped.

This guy is directly responsible for some of my most ferocious and rage driven gym sessions I've ever been through. There was one incident in particular where I ended up storming into the gym at 4am after the club and going straight to 40kg dumbell press, no warm up, out of pure rage and desperation. I ended up injuring my shoulder jfl

 

[forevergymcelling]

he sounds like not a very nice person honestly

He actally is a really nice person which makes it even worse. You want to hate him but you can't

 

[AscendingHero]

This barely scratches the surface of what I've been through / witnessed after 3 years of living together

I became hardened by the trauma

It wasn't too bad cause I slayed my fair share too, but if I were incel I prob would've roped.

This guy is directly responsible for some of my most ferocious and rage driven gym sessions I've ever been through. There was one incident in particular where I ended up storming into the gym at 4am after the club and going straight to 40kg dumbell press, no warm up, out of pure rage and desperation. I ended up injuring my shoulder jfl

 

[AscendingHero]

He actally is a really nice person which makes it even worse. You want to hate him but you can't

He's nice bc life has been soo so good to him. Brutal