immigration is good - if you disagree you have been brainwashed by the alt right

[n0rthface]

redpill me on enoch powell

Just watch his rivers of blood speech on YouTube.

 

[Sviken]

it increases productivity and gdp per capita so everyone is better off

reddit-tier economic understanding.

Rise in population only increase the total GDP, but it lowers the GDP per capita (i.e - your money). This is why America's baby boom generation was rich as hell and everyone could buy a house, a sports car and have money to last his retirement years by the time he hits 30 while now people in America are scrambling to get out of debt and have to live with their parents in shithole apartments.

 

[CFW432]

because civilization tames our natural instincts
some ethnic countries are more civilized, and marxism is making western women more primal by promoting feminism and promiscuity
but in civilized societies its not all about sex, and it wasnt in primitive societies during the stone age too, women were kept in control, women of other tribes were raped and/or joined these tribes, but at the end of the day it was about satisfying men's urges to be dominant and control more
i'd argue society is driven by the urge of men to conquer, and the more power women have the worse it is for society

because civilization tames our natural instincts

Actually, i'd say civilization tries to keep IN CHECK our natural instincts, and fails on an almost consistent basis, but not to the point of collapse.

"some ethnic countries are more civilized, and marxism is making western women more primal by promoting feminism and promiscuity"

Im sorry and i dont want to have to call you a fucking idiot for actually believing in this, but just lol. HUMANS ARE ANIMALS we are all beholden to our biological instincts, but the concept of society and civilization was created to keep those instincts IN CHECK so that a group of human beings could move socially and technologically past our natural archaic hunter-gatherer way of life which was solely based off our natural way of living, AKA survival of the fittest.

"mArXIsm" is not promoting ANYTHING because first of all this is a conspiracy theory that has not been proven in any kind of field of research, and second of all if anything what "mArxISM" is actually doing is just getting rid of all the civilizational pillars of society which were keeping our instincts in check. Basically breaking down the dam which stemmed the tide of a body of water from drowning a whole city. No one put that body of water there, it always was there, and civilization which is the wall, was built there so that the chaos that would ensue if the water was allowed to flow free, would stop coming to pass.

"but in civilized societies its not all about sex, and it wasnt in primitive societies during the stone age too, women were kept in control, women of other tribes were raped and/or joined these tribes, but at the end of the day it was about satisfying men's urges to be dominant and control more"

Lmao wrong, it was about making sure that the average men of a tribe wouldn't revolt against the alpha and his retinue that all women naturally "haremize" themselves around, because then they would've had a lack of available mates. TWO BASE reasons why alphas/leaders of a tribe always initiated raids on another tribe, was to kill off as many average men in his own tribe to be able to reduce competition for female mates, and secondly, to capture females of another tribe as warbrides which would also in a way, serve the same purpose of reducing competition and hostility in the tribe because now there is more available female mates to mate with thereby mating can be more evenly distributed amongst all the males in the tribe whether they were chads or average joes.

i'd argue society is driven by the urge of men to conquer, and the more power women have the worse it is for society

Id argue that the only reason why reason why society exists, or existed, is to prevent the natural chaos that humans (more specifically males) would ensue if more female mates, werent available. The is the literal, base, motivation for all of this. Now civilization has become weaker due to females being able to be employed themselves and acquire their own resources. Now, average joes can no longer can leverage their resources as a way to get pussy, because their female mates are basically making the same amount they are nowadays for the same professions, which will allow them to survive off their own livelihoods and therefore, not need an average joes resources to survive. This will allow them to bang the chads that they ACTUALLY WANT TO, in their free time whenever they please.

 

[n0rthface]

Actually, i'd say civilization tries to keep IN CHECK our natural instincts, and fails on an almost consistent basis, but not to the point of collapse.



Im sorry and i dont want to have to call you a fucking idiot for actually believing in this, but just lol. HUMANS ARE ANIMALS we are all beholden to our biological instincts, but the concept of society and civilization was created to keep those instincts IN CHECK so that a group of human beings could move socially and technologically past our natural archaic hunter-gatherer way of life which was solely based off our natural way of living, AKA survival of the fittest.

"mArXIsm" is not promoting ANYTHING because first of all this is a conspiracy theory that has not been proven in any kind of field of research, and second of all if anything what "mArxISM" is actually doing is just getting rid of all the civilizational pillars of society which were keeping our instincts in check. Basically breaking down the dam which stemmed the tide of a body of water from drowning a whole city. No one put that body of water there, it always was there, and civilization which is the wall, was built there so that the chaos that would ensue if the water was allowed to flow free, would never come to pass.



Lmao wrong, it was about making sure that the average men of a tribe wouldn't revolt against the alpha and his retinue that all women naturally "haremize" themselves around because of a lack of available mates. TWO BASE reasons why alphas/leaders of a tribe always initiated raids on another tribe, was to kill off as many average men in his own tribe to be able to reduce competition for female mates, and secondly, to capture females of another tribe as warbrides which would also in a way, serve the same purpose of reducing competition and hostility in the tribe because now there is more available female mates to mate with thereby mating can be more evenly distributed amongst all the males in the tribe whether they were chads or average joes.



Id argue that the only reason why reason why society exists, or existed, is to prevent the natural chaos that humans (more specifically males) would ensue if more female mates, werent available. The is the literal, base, motivation for all of this. Now civilization has become weaker due to females being able to be employed themselves and acquire their own resources. Now, average joes can no longer can leverage their resources as a way to get pussy, because their female mates are basically making the same amount they are nowadays for the same professions, which will allow them to survive off their own livelihoods and therefore, not need an average joes resources to survive. This will allow the to bang the chads that they ACTUALLY WANT TO, in their free time whenever they please.

Not a single person is reading that.

 

[CFW432]

Not a single person is reading that.

I dont expect many people here to have the reading comprehension to do it in the first place.

 

[n0rthface]

I dont expect many people here to have the reading comprehension to do it in the first place.

Why did you waste time writing it all out then?

 

[Uglybrazilian]

Of course it will improve economy, immigration just like most social measures under capitalism is thought to increase profit. The rich countries are basically training workforce on the third world to be the new, more sophisticated proletariat, that now works in front of a computer.

Plus, the reason why people dont like immigration is because of a natural tendency that humans have for racism, since its easier to accept and like people who look, act and speak like us. Still, that doesnt mean different people cant live together, its just that this has been happening in a forced, anti-natural way on this days.

 

[CFW432]

Why did you waste time writing it all out then?

Because i was having a debate with one of the few who did, atleast i assumed he did. Time to see now.

 

[AspiringChadlet]

Skilled immigration can improve the economy but its not worth it. I don't care if I get to buy a new iPhone for $100 cheaper if it means I feel like a foreigner in my own country.

 

[n0rthface]

Plus, the reason why people dont like immigration is because of a natural tendency that humans have for racism, since its easier to accept and like people who look, act and speak like us. Still, that doesnt mean different people cant live together, its just that this has been happening in a forced, anti-natural way on this days.

It’s refreshing to see a Marxist admit this. Usually western Marxists will screech about diversity and completely ignore these facts. It’s also ironic since immigration devalues the native workforces labor powers. Marx himself was opposed to Irish immigrants into Britain for this very reason.

China has the least amount of immigrants per capita btw

In one metric of diversity, China comes in dead last

China is changing fast. Over the past several decades, the country has transformed economically and culturally at a pace the world has rarely seen.

qz.com

It just goes to show that China has a managerial elite, rather than what the west has, which is a bourgeois liberal elite that puts capital over the homogeneity of the Nation

 

[Uglybrazilian]

It’s refreshing to see a Marxist admit this. Usually western Marxists will screech about diversity and completely ignore these facts. It’s also ironic since immigration devalues the native workforces labor powers. Marx himself was opposed to Irish immigrants into Britain for this very reason.

China has the least amount of immigrants per capita btw

In one metric of diversity, China comes in dead last

China is changing fast. Over the past several decades, the country has transformed economically and culturally at a pace the world has rarely seen.

qz.com

It just goes to show that China has a managerial elite, rather than what the west has, which is a bourgeois liberal elite that puts capital over the homogeneity of the Nation

That is a psychological and biological fact that Marx himself admitted, I dont see why a true marxist wouldnt agree with this. Immigration in capitalism happens in a forced way, the arabs and africans in the west are not there because they want, because they like the culture, but because they need to(if they want to live a decent life) since their countries are war and hunger infested shitholes. The african-americans were also brought by the whites due to slavery. Such forced, anti-natural coexistence will of course be difficult and cause trouble. Immigration is not bad per se, but it wouldnt be that common in a fair world, since humans themselves are not prone to like radically different cultures.

 

[ropemax]

redpill me on enoch powell

Listen to his rivers of blood speech

 

[stamaster21]

NIGGA, WE. ARE. ANIMALS.

Holy shit you think just because humans can build a few skyscrapers (extreme hyperbole, allow me this) we are no longer beholden to our biological instincts? You think now, we are "above" these instincts .

You know what, answer me this. Why are western foids some of the most prone to cheating and infidelity (compared to other races of women), if they come from such as first class, 1st world, civilized culture. Don't you people know that infidelity and cheating are mORallY reprehensible? I mean you guys are such superhumans and we are all a bunch of subhuman shitskins, surely you guys were able to grasp the concept of fidelity before any of us right?

Clearly not... hmm, i wonder why western foids are more prone to being able to act on their own instincts compared to other foids from around the world, i mean, DONT THEY KNOW THAT THEY SHOULD BE ABOVE THEIR INSTINCTS????!!!! (and before you give your retort which i probably already know what its going to be, yes, its true what you are going to say, which only reinforces sciences view on human beings as a whole which i agree with).

Its the same way folks be saying how could he cheat on hes poor wife, what about the children. This is all bullshit talk, people are basically smart animals. That children talk is bullshit, the person doesnt have a sexual relationship with hes children. The reason people get upset when wifes and older women get cheated on is because people understand the sexual market place is alot worse for older women, and even so older women with children.

Men and women cheat at about the same rates.Its just that women tend to cheat when they have the most mating options , and thats when their younger in their teens and 20s, so when they cheat people don't make a fuss of it and tell the guy oh that sucks, you got your life ahead of ya, you will find a new girlfriend or wife.


This guy below fucked a college cheerleader who was 18, for 5 years he was fucking her while he was married, iam i shocked NO. People are only loyal as their options. Do you think this man was fucking 18 year old cheerleaders when he was 19 himself hell no. This happens to alot of men they get settle down with a women, their not even crazy about, and since men tend to peak later in mating options then their female peers this happens. Its simple women peak much earlier then their male peers by at least 10-15 years.





iam shocked ben afflick fucked hes 27 year old nanny over hes 42 year old wife the answer is no, nature and biology don't give a dame.
The only way cheating happens less is if both parties in a relationship, have something to lose, and are crazy about each other, only maybe 15-20 percent of relationships are like this.

 

[thereallegend]

Good economy=/=Good nation

#1 fascist talking point

 

[stamaster21]

Actually, i'd say civilization tries to keep IN CHECK our natural instincts, and fails on an almost consistent basis, but not to the point of collapse.



Im sorry and i dont want to have to call you a fucking idiot for actually believing in this, but just lol. HUMANS ARE ANIMALS we are all beholden to our biological instincts, but the concept of society and civilization was created to keep those instincts IN CHECK so that a group of human beings could move socially and technologically past our natural archaic hunter-gatherer way of life which was solely based off our natural way of living, AKA survival of the fittest.

"mArXIsm" is not promoting ANYTHING because first of all this is a conspiracy theory that has not been proven in any kind of field of research, and second of all if anything what "mArxISM" is actually doing is just getting rid of all the civilizational pillars of society which were keeping our instincts in check. Basically breaking down the dam which stemmed the tide of a body of water from drowning a whole city. No one put that body of water there, it always was there, and civilization which is the wall, was built there so that the chaos that would ensue if the water was allowed to flow free, would stop coming to pass.



Lmao wrong, it was about making sure that the average men of a tribe wouldn't revolt against the alpha and his retinue that all women naturally "haremize" themselves around, because then they would've had a lack of available mates. TWO BASE reasons why alphas/leaders of a tribe always initiated raids on another tribe, was to kill off as many average men in his own tribe to be able to reduce competition for female mates, and secondly, to capture females of another tribe as warbrides which would also in a way, serve the same purpose of reducing competition and hostility in the tribe because now there is more available female mates to mate with thereby mating can be more evenly distributed amongst all the males in the tribe whether they were chads or average joes.



Id argue that the only reason why reason why society exists, or existed, is to prevent the natural chaos that humans (more specifically males) would ensue if more female mates, werent available. The is the literal, base, motivation for all of this. Now civilization has become weaker due to females being able to be employed themselves and acquire their own resources. Now, average joes can no longer can leverage their resources as a way to get pussy, because their female mates are basically making the same amount they are nowadays for the same professions, which will allow them to survive off their own livelihoods and therefore, not need an average joes resources to survive. This will allow them to bang the chads that they ACTUALLY WANT TO, in their free time whenever they please.

I fuckn love this post, its 100 percent legit. Women are making more, money so there is no need to beta-bux this is one major reason marriage rates are dropping fast. Women now have pensions and retirement from their city, and better jobs. If they want children they can fuck chad/tyrone and be a single mother, and raise the children, while fucking other chads and tyrones. If the women is poor in the same senario she can get on government programs, while she looks for a beta-provider to be a step-father to the children.

People are blaming men for the decline of marriage and birth rates, but its really the women. Women will try to play dumb and say the men just don't want to marry. But what is happening with the increase in dating apps, and social media the past 15 years, women have more options for casual sex with men 1-3 points more attractive then themselves. Women are basically on the cock- carosel much longer then prior years. You have a much larger portion of these women become single mothers, and get older into their 30s and 40s, then they complain men don't want commitment or marriage. They end up getting older and have no leverage, to get men to marry them.

 

[stamaster21]

Actually, i'd say civilization tries to keep IN CHECK our natural instincts, and fails on an almost consistent basis, but not to the point of collapse.



Im sorry and i dont want to have to call you a fucking idiot for actually believing in this, but just lol. HUMANS ARE ANIMALS we are all beholden to our biological instincts, but the concept of society and civilization was created to keep those instincts IN CHECK so that a group of human beings could move socially and technologically past our natural archaic hunter-gatherer way of life which was solely based off our natural way of living, AKA survival of the fittest.

"mArXIsm" is not promoting ANYTHING because first of all this is a conspiracy theory that has not been proven in any kind of field of research, and second of all if anything what "mArxISM" is actually doing is just getting rid of all the civilizational pillars of society which were keeping our instincts in check. Basically breaking down the dam which stemmed the tide of a body of water from drowning a whole city. No one put that body of water there, it always was there, and civilization which is the wall, was built there so that the chaos that would ensue if the water was allowed to flow free, would stop coming to pass.



Lmao wrong, it was about making sure that the average men of a tribe wouldn't revolt against the alpha and his retinue that all women naturally "haremize" themselves around, because then they would've had a lack of available mates. TWO BASE reasons why alphas/leaders of a tribe always initiated raids on another tribe, was to kill off as many average men in his own tribe to be able to reduce competition for female mates, and secondly, to capture females of another tribe as warbrides which would also in a way, serve the same purpose of reducing competition and hostility in the tribe because now there is more available female mates to mate with thereby mating can be more evenly distributed amongst all the males in the tribe whether they were chads or average joes.



Id argue that the only reason why reason why society exists, or existed, is to prevent the natural chaos that humans (more specifically males) would ensue if more female mates, werent available. The is the literal, base, motivation for all of this. Now civilization has become weaker due to females being able to be employed themselves and acquire their own resources. Now, average joes can no longer can leverage their resources as a way to get pussy, because their female mates are basically making the same amount they are nowadays for the same professions, which will allow them to survive off their own livelihoods and therefore, not need an average joes resources to survive. This will allow them to bang the chads that they ACTUALLY WANT TO, in their free time whenever they please.

Another thing to add guys, think there gonna beta bux, as they get older and get a attractive women. Guess what if you don't look decent yourself, you better be a millionare. Because these women are gonna jump on the dick of either a attractive man their age or a younger man. Ive seen this with my own eyes while on campus in the bronx. Had a 34 year old latina milf who looked 25 in the face and 25 in the body, trying to fuck me. I was just in the computer lab and this women began talking to me and smilling. We exchanged numbers, she had three children, i walked her out the building. And you literally had guy literally breaking their necks and saying god-damn.

This was a grown women body not no 18-23 college girl body. Ive seen married women in some of my classes flirt and with the younger male students. i believe some of these women were fucking the male students. I had another one in one of my classes show me a picture of her 37 year old latino boyfriend, two weeks later she keeps staring and giggling, and damn near tried to rip my dick off She wasnt as hot as the other one, but she had a nice ass and a slightly above average face.

 

[Squirtoutmabooty]

I agree with this, based high t muslims should conquer europe

They've already won spiritually tbh

 

[Deleted member 16134]

it increases productivity and gdp per capita so everyone is better off

No

 

[CFW432]

I fuckn love this post, its 100 percent legit. Women are making more, money so there is no need to beta-bux this is one major reason marriage rates are dropping fast. Women now have pensions and retirement from their city, and better jobs. If they want children they can fuck chad/tyrone and be a single mother, and raise the children, while fucking other chads and tyrones. If the women is poor in the same senario she can get on government programs, while she looks for a beta-provider to be a step-father to the children.

People are blaming men for the decline of marriage and birth rates, but its really the women. Women will try to play dumb and say the men just don't want to marry. But what is happening with the increase in dating apps, and social media the past 15 years, women have more options for casual sex with men 1-3 points more attractive then themselves. Women are basically on the cock- carosel much longer then prior years. You have a much larger portion of these women become single mothers, and get older into their 30s and 40s, then they complain men don't want commitment or marriage. They end up getting older and have no leverage, to get men to marry them.

Women will try to play dumb and say the men just don't want to marry

While they are indeed playing dumb when they say this, there is a hint of unironic truth to these words, you just have to read in between the lines to figure what they mean actually by this.

When women are referring to the men in that statement, which type of men do you think they are talking about? Do you think they are talking the top 20% of chads whom they all haremize themselves around, and are having constant mutually wanted, casual sex with? Or do you think the are referring to the bottom 80% of men, who literally don't even register on their radar as sexual beings, just because of the way they look .

It's of course the chads they are referring to. This disgusting shaming tactic that might as well be practically almost inherent to female nature is called the "apex fallacy". And it's pretty much simple definition, is that any negative experience that a female may have with a chad/alpha that she was in a relationship with, she then proceeds to lambast ALL men with a wide brush stroke accusing them of doing the same, EVEN MEN WHOM SHE WOULD'VE LITERALLY NEVER EVEN GET IN A RELATIONSHIP WITH BECAUSE OF THEIR LOOKS.

 

[stamaster21]

While they are indeed playing dumb when they say this, there is a hint of unironic truth to these words, you just have to read in between the lines to figure what they mean actually by this.

When women are referring to the men in that statement, which type of men do you think they are talking about? Do you think they are talking the top 20% of chads whom they all haremize themselves around, and are having constant mutually wanted, casual sex with? Or do you think the are referring to the bottom 80% of men, who literally don't even register on their radar as sexual beings, just because of the way they look .

It's of course the chads they are referring to. This disgusting shaming tactic that might as well be practically almost inherent to female nature is called the "apex fallacy". And it's pretty much simple definition, is that any negative experience that a female may have with a chad/alpha that she was in a relationship with, she then proceeds to lambast ALL men with a wide brush stroke accusing them of doing the same, EVEN MEN WHOM SHE WOULD'VE LITERALLY NEVER EVEN GET IN A RELATIONSHIP WITH BECAUSE OF THEIR LOOKS.

When they say the men don't want to marry , they are saying two things. One to shame the lesser 80 percent of men for not being good enough. And another to shame the top 20 percent of chads/tyrones into commitment. And yes your right they will blame ALL MEN for the problems, even if its men their not fucking or would never fuck. Chad fucks her, and doesn't call back its all men are pigs, a average guy walks up to her and asks her out, its your just gonna fuck me and never return my calls your just like the rest of them, she then proceeds to hit the club and bar and fuck a new chad/tyrone.

The 80 percent of the men are not only blamed but told to accept responsiblity for chad/tyrone/brad/chang, predeep mating choices. The women will say things if you men werent such losers we wouldn't have to casual fuck chad/tyrone its your fault. Some people actually believe this bullshit, and demand men go over-board to attract these women. The majority womens mating tactic is to fuck tyrone/chad as long as they can, or hit the wall, then get a beta-provider to provide long-term security for her and any possible children she has had.

 

[stamaster21]

While they are indeed playing dumb when they say this, there is a hint of unironic truth to these words, you just have to read in between the lines to figure what they mean actually by this.

When women are referring to the men in that statement, which type of men do you think they are talking about? Do you think they are talking the top 20% of chads whom they all haremize themselves around, and are having constant mutually wanted, casual sex with? Or do you think the are referring to the bottom 80% of men, who literally don't even register on their radar as sexual beings, just because of the way they look .

It's of course the chads they are referring to. This disgusting shaming tactic that might as well be practically almost inherent to female nature is called the "apex fallacy". And it's pretty much simple definition, is that any negative experience that a female may have with a chad/alpha that she was in a relationship with, she then proceeds to lambast ALL men with a wide brush stroke accusing them of doing the same, EVEN MEN WHOM SHE WOULD'VE LITERALLY NEVER EVEN GET IN A RELATIONSHIP WITH BECAUSE OF THEIR LOOKS.

The majroity of women will bounce up and down on chads dick, till they get older and gain 20-40 pounds, go back in the dating market and say see these men don't want marriage or commitment.

 

[Ritalincel]

 

[Beetlejuice]

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[contributing_autist]

it increases productivity and gdp per capita of already rich countries so everyone is better off, while the rest of the world is condemned to starvation, chaos, gang violence and getting robbed of resources by first world companies

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libtard "altruism" summarized

 

[thecel]

Immigration is good only if everyone sticks to their own kind and has strong tribalism.