Incels are real, I hate how blue pill copers just ignore the issue entirely

[Cleetus Cornfield]

Disclaimer: This is coming from a non-incel.

In my opinion most incels are just non-nt and if they looksmaxxed for a year or so they would be out of their situation.

However, Incels do exist.

I have a friend who is 110+ kg, NW 4, naturally thin hair, boneless, recessed maxilla, high UEE. bad harmony.

He vapes, smokes weed, and watches YouTube all day and only orders take-out or has oven meals like onion rings and fries.. Doesn't shower either.

He has always been treated terribly by society. When we were in clubs girls would try and stamp on his feet. People would see him and say 'ew' LIKE WTF???

He is not a manlet but other than that he literally has no redeeming features.

How can blue pill copers look at his situation and tell him "it's all in your head", "women don't owe you anything". Like of course women don't owe you anything but in his situation he will never have anything cause no matter how much looksmaxxing he does he won't ascend unless he spends 100k + on surgeries.

And in a situation like this, where no one loves or cares for you, you will turn to these fucked up forums on the internet like .is.

 

[William Anderson]

Disclaimer: This is coming from a non-incel.

In my opinion most incels are just non-nt and if they looksmaxxed for a year or so they would be out of their situation.

However, Incels do exist.

I have a friend who is 110+ kg, NW 4, naturally thin hair, boneless, recessed maxilla, high UEE. bad harmony.

He vapes, smokes weed, and watches YouTube all day and only orders take-out or has oven meals like onion rings and fries.. Doesn't shower either.

He has always been treated terribly by society. When we were in clubs girls would try and stamp on his feet. People would see him and say 'ew' LIKE WTF???

He is not a manlet but other than that he literally has no redeeming features.

How can blue pill copers look at his situation and tell him "it's all in your head", "women don't owe you anything". Like of course women don't owe you anything but in his situation he will never have anything cause no matter how much looksmaxxing he does he won't ascend unless he spends 100k + on surgeries.

And in a situation like this, where no one loves or cares for you, you will turn to these fucked up forums on the internet like .is.

Incels are obviously real but I disagree with the notion that it’s looks based, if you’re incel you have much bigger problems than merely just having an ugly face or a bit below average height

The guy you described is incel because hes a straight up retard who rots all the time not because hes fat or whatever

 

[Cleetus Cornfield]

Incels are obviously real but I disagree with the notion that it’s looks based, if you’re incel you have much bigger problems than merely just having an ugly face or a bit below average height

The guy you described is incel because hes a straight up retard who rots all the time not because hes fat or whatever

what about his other unredeemable features?

I agree that he should stop rotting and at least try but hes not got much to work with

 

[superpsycho]

its over for me

 

[SennenHund]

They vehemently deny their existence because they can't comprehend what would lead someone to choose long term self isolation. Incels and NEETS are usually born from a combination of being somewhat to heavily ND or retarded, in combination with below average looks or shit height. Bluepillers have normal socialization and hit key milestones with no setbacks or retardation stopping them from normal male or female socialization. Being NEET or incel is like watching a slow motion cascading failure of a building. You can clearly see what led to the shitstorm if you look close enough at these people. Its why I dont judge them.

 

[andro35]

Disclaimer: This is coming from a non-incel.

In my opinion most incels are just non-nt and if they looksmaxxed for a year or so they would be out of their situation.

However, Incels do exist.

I have a friend who is 110+ kg, NW 4, naturally thin hair, boneless, recessed maxilla, high UEE. bad harmony.

He vapes, smokes weed, and watches YouTube all day and only orders take-out or has oven meals like onion rings and fries.. Doesn't shower either.

He has always been treated terribly by society. When we were in clubs girls would try and stamp on his feet. People would see him and say 'ew' LIKE WTF???

He is not a manlet but other than that he literally has no redeeming features.

How can blue pill copers look at his situation and tell him "it's all in your head", "women don't owe you anything". Like of course women don't owe you anything but in his situation he will never have anything cause no matter how much looksmaxxing he does he won't ascend unless he spends 100k + on surgeries.

And in a situation like this, where no one loves or cares for you, you will turn to these fucked up forums on the internet like .is.

Thats ruff! I'm in the process of trying to create "bite sized" ways to remind myself of the "NT or ND way", because at the end of the day being a "non-nt" isn't about the NEED for some "magic" pill or superpower, but rather the capacity and competence to endure through hardship. It's the endurance to not easily fold under everyday stress.

I notice that when I surround myself with people that "challenge" me (literally in EVERY way imaginable) my knee jerk reaction is to simply RUN away. BUT. if I stand my ground and ease into the tension. I can see that there are things that I can actually improve (instead of just running away from the "feedback"). I guess it just comes back to what you value more: "the laws of your mental world" OR "the laws of the real world" (which might appear unpleasant, but that is the only "real" data that we can actually work with...

Thats what I am getting out of the book: "The Masculine in Relationship" by GS Youngblood, and am in the process of distilling the main ideas and concepts into memorable bite sized chunks.

Would it be realistic for him to have "high expectations" after using such "knowledge" to create a social circle that would give me more options with ̶f̶o̶i̶d̶s̶ ̶ girls?