Incels deserve being sexless. The only person you have to blame is yourself. Unless you ruthlessly self improve for 10 years you can’t complain.

[Deleted member 24278]

I started fucking milfs after self improving, not bad

 

[Deleted member 2507]

@Papal_Guard

Explain why society owes you female intimacy

Please delete your account and go back to reddit.

 

[user1728482728]

Please delete your account and go back to reddit.

Good argument

 

[Papal_Guard]

You feel like society owes you something. You will never accomplish anything with that mindset.


The only person who can help yourself, is YOU.

Your style of argumenting is very disingenuous and it pisses me off.You use big words to make yourself seem smarter and make bold statements about the character of people you don't know, but all you say can be picked apart when read thoroughly.

Why do you assume men would become lazy and worthless(like yourself being a good for nothing forum user) if they were given something to live for? A man that has a wife, children, his parents, hell even his community to take care of is the most productive man you will ever see.A man who has no friends, is rejected by the community and the women he interacts with is going to only be a danger to the community.
In the 20th century, when arranged marriages were common across majority of the world, when people in the West were getting married 15~ years earlier than they do now and having more kids, and when we had the largest population jump in all of human history(10 billlion allegedly) we saw the largest leap in technology, improvements to medicine and healthcare, etc.

Why do you assume everybody who goes against your near-sociopathic reddit pastes is not succesful in life?You really do speak like a one dimensional troll, also with a private profile.

@Papal_Guard

Explain why society owes you female intimacy

According to you it doesn't, but then neither am I obligated to the social contract(look it up), and can thus freely be a burden on my community, leech off unemployment benefits, defecate in the street, and if I feel like it, take my frustrastions out on those same women that do not owe me intimacy or anyone else for that matter.

Or I could just say that everyone deserves to be loved, because life has no meaning if you can't enjoy it.

I think I know your problem.You, like many people(even the ones on this forum), see men as inherently predatory and feral(and that we thus aren't entitled to love unlike women), and that inevitably something terrible would happen to any female that would grant us her intimacy.Men can't have pure feelings, unlike women, and it all boils down to some perverse desire or want to boost their egos.

 

[user1728482728]

Your style of argumenting is very disingenuous and it pisses me off.You use big words to make yourself seem smarter and make bold statements about the character of people you don't know, but all you say can be picked apart when read thoroughly.

Why do you assume men would become lazy and worthless(like yourself being a good for nothing forum user) if they were given something to live for? A man that has a wife, children, his parents, hell even his community to take care of is the most productive man you will ever see.A man who has no friends, is rejected by the community and the women he interacts with is going to only be a danger to the community.
In the 20th century, when arranged marriages were common across majority of the world, when people in the West were getting married 15~ years earlier than they do now and having more kids, and when we had the largest population jump in all of human history(10 billlion allegedly) we saw the largest leap in technology, improvements to medicine and healthcare, etc.

Why do you assume everybody who goes against your near-sociopathic reddit pastes is not succesful in life?You really do speak like a one dimensional troll, also with a private profile.

According to you it doesn't, but then neither am I obligated to the social contract(look it up), and can thus freely be a burden on my community, leech off unemployment benefits, defecate in the street, and if I feel like it, take my frustrastions out on those same women that do not owe me intimacy or anyone else for that matter.

Or I could just say that everyone deserves to be loved, because life has no meaning if you can't enjoy it.

I think I know your problem.You, like many people(even the ones on this forum), see men as inherently predatory and feral(and that we thus aren't entitled to love unlike women), and that inevitably something terrible would happen to any female that would grant us her intimacy.Men can't have pure feelings, unlike women, and it all boils down to some perverse desire or want to boost their egos.

If you really want to know what my problem is I’ll be totally honest with you. I am a 25 yr old NEET and never had a gf even though I easily could have if I just worked on improving myself instead of rotmaxxing because of blackpill content

It’s not “over” for most incels they just don’t want to put in the work

 

[New Poster]

This can't be srs

 

[Deleted member 2507]

If you really want to know what my problem is I’ll be totally honest with you. I am a 25 yr old NEET and never had a gf even though I easily could have if I just worked on improving myself instead of rotmaxxing because of blackpill content

It’s not “over” for most incels they just don’t want to put in the work

This is in stark contrast to your earlier take. Are incels doomed because of their subpar genetics or are they not, retard? Putting in the work won’t override genetics, as you also said.

 

[user1728482728]

This is in stark contrast to your earlier take. Are incels doomed because of their subpar genetics or are they not, retard? Putting in the work won’t override genetics, as you also said.

Like I said earlier life isn’t fair. Some people need to put in more work than others. Chad doesn’t need any effort to attract women. An average guy does. And an ugly guy needs an incredible amount of effort.

It all comes down to what kind of person you are. When faced with a difficult challenge will you give up, or will you do whatever it takes?

 

[Papal_Guard]

If you really want to know what my problem is I’ll be totally honest with you. I am a 25 yr old NEET and never had a gf even though I easily could have if I just worked on improving myself instead of rotmaxxing because of blackpill content

It’s not “over” for most incels they just don’t want to put in the work

You seem to lack basic self-respect.Being in favor of a eugenic system setting up would literally put you in the crossfire and probably deported/sent to a hard labor camp.Would you let another man fuck you in the ass or your hypothetical girl/wife just because he's a chad and you're not, like this is fated to happen and she would want him anyway and that he deserves her unlike yourself?

THAT is not a healthy mindset, because you now actively advocate and allow for people to trample all over you and test your limits for their amusement.I would never let people do that no matter how much of a genetic waste I could be.Women are honestly terrible, impulse-controlled creatures that don't think long-term.Men that should never reproduce according to you do so plenty, just look at Lil Wayne.

Evolution clearly hasn't given women the gift of precognition to know who they should get pregnant by, moreso thinking in the moment instead of if the man will be a good father to their children.

It's also not fair to generalize incels for their failure in getting with women seeing as how varied their stories are.It can be laziness, crippling mental illnesses, disabilities, just being ugly as sin in general or anything else really.

 

[Deleted member 2507]

Like I said earlier life isn’t fair. Some people need to put in more work than others. Chad doesn’t need any effort to attract women. An average guy does. And an ugly guy needs an incredible amount of effort.

It all comes down to what kind of person you are. When faced with a difficult challenge will you give up, or will you do whatever it takes?

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I will give up and rot, personally speaking.

 

[user1728482728]

You seem to lack basic self-respect.Being in favor of a eugenic system setting up would literally put you in the crossfire and probably deported/sent to a hard labor camp.Would you let another man fuck you in the ass or your hypothetical girl/wife just because he's a chad and you're not, like this is fated to happen and she would want him anyway and that he deserves her unlike yourself?

THAT is not a healthy mindset, because you now actively advocate and allow for people to trample all over you and test your limits for their amusement.I would never let people do that no matter how much of a genetic waste I could be.Women are honestly terrible, impulse-controlled creatures that don't think long-term.Men that should never reproduce according to you do so plenty, just look at Lil Wayne.

Evolution clearly hasn't given women the gift of precognition to know who they should get pregnant by, moreso thinking in the moment instead of if the man will be a good father to their children.

It's also not fair to generalize incels for their failure in getting with women seeing as how varied their stories are.It can be laziness, crippling mental illnesses, disabilities, just being ugly as sin in general or anything else really.

Well to be honest I do have crippling mental illness from an extremely abusive childhood and bullying.

But also I didn’t do anything to help myself. I never even really gave myself a chance. I blamed my parents. I blamed my shitty friends. I blamed girls. Incel communities like here and /r9k/ and incels.is honestly I feel like we’re super toxic for people like me. I ended up just wasting the best years of my life rotmaxxing and being angry at other people. The whole time I was doing nothing to actually help myself.

Looking back if I spent the last 10 years regularly hitting the gym, working a job where I can socialize, and going to school and trying to make friends. I would be doing a lot better in life.

Telling someone “it’s over” or to “ldar” is never helpful. Why not try to improve? If you’re going to LDAR anyways you have nothing to lose. And you might actually end up creating a good life for yourself.

 

[user1728482728]

I will give up and rot, personally speaking.

What do you have to lose by trying to improve yourself?
Nothing to lose and everything to gain. Even if you have a 10% chance of succeeding. Seems like a good gamble to me.

 

[rand anon]

Looking back if I spent the last 10 years regularly hitting the gym, working a job where I can socialize, and going to school and trying to make friends. I would be doing a lot better in life.

Telling someone “it’s over” or to “ldar” is never helpful. Why not try to improve? If you’re going to LDAR anyways you have nothing to lose. And you might actually end up creating a good life for yourself.

Some people are genetically inclined to rot u retard

 

[Deleted member 2507]

What do you have to lose by trying to improve yourself?
Nothing to lose and everything to gain. Even if you have a 10% chance of succeeding. Seems like a good gamble to me.

My self worth & dignity. I have zero interest in improving myself for the intent of getting females. This is almost like subjugation to me and it’s degrading living a life centered around females—the same creatures that have absolutely nothing to offer besides their pussy.

Either they improve themselves and come to me or I’m fine just as is.

 

[NuclearBrainReturns]

Considering I have had relationships in the past and was in worse shape, worse mental processing power, worse financial situation than I am now and yet it is now much more difficult, I can safely say that you are talking a whole lot of nonsense.

1. Berating people because they are struggling to attain relationships does not help anyone but yourself. You feel better about yourself by putting down those less fortunate than you calling them all sorts of names. You don't know anyone's life on this website, no doubt there are some very, very hard workers on here yet you tar them with the same brush of 'laziness'. Sounds ignorant and prejudiced to me.

2. 'Work on yourself' is the most empty statement of the 21st century. There has never been a more fruitless statement that a person MUST absorb or be labelled 'lazy, doesnt want to succeed, entitled'. To ignore the wider socio-cultural issues which have created this phenomenon is willful ignorance on your part because you would rather blame those less fortunate than yourself for their own problems rather than address larger overarching societal issues. This mindset is very similar to the early Victorian economic viewpoint known as Laissez-faire in which economic interventionism is frowned upon because you view someone's life projection as purely their own making and not influenced by the world around them - a retard take.

Grow up and mature. A human life is much more complex than personal choice. Everyone's actions impact the lives of everyone else, you are just looking for a way to shift responsibility from a societal collective to an individual.

 

[Deleted member 24114]

Self improve ruthlessly for 10 years JFL fucking tard in 10 years I'll be 30 so I need to improve in everyday in the peak years of my sexual drive and collagen and finally when I'm 30 then I'll get pussy when there is a possibility that I norwooded. Dumb bitch.
Mind you women get fulfilling relationships as teenagers.
Fuck no women aren't that worth it. Go out and talk to them if ur a normie 50% are beneath you. They are literally 130 lb beings

 

[Artbreeder Is Law]

Only side characters need to self improve.

 

[Pendejo]

it’s just funny how negatively you frame incels for wanting sex even though good looking people are the exact same—entitled, narcissistic,& thinks they’re special.

It’s only a problem when your looks aren’t there.

Cuz they actually have something to back it up, they bring their good looks and social skills to the table, what does your average incel brings to the table? Nothing, absolutely nothing, your average incel is socially impaired with subpar looks and excels at nothing in life.

You may not like it but it's the harsh truth, after all would you want an ugly girl with a dreadfully boring personality if you could do better?

 

[Tusseleif]

My fucking god people on this forum are such cuck pussyworshippers. It’s all down to genetics. Chad doesn’t deserve shit either

 

[reborn]

I guarantee nobody on here makes 100k has decent social skills to boot

I make close to 100K as a 40 yo virgin.

 

[Deleted member 23941]

Only side characters need to self improve.

I see what you mean tbh. Then again most mythology or story that has a "Hero's Journey" sees the hero engage in a level of 'overcoming'.

 

[Deleted member 22063]

This idea that inkwells think they're entitled to sex is such nonsense as is the solution of limiting women's autonomy by making them fraternize with ugly men, a position few have ever claim unironically and what would be totally unrealistic and immoral.

You could make the argument that the government or society should cultivate an environment in which men and women are able to reasonably be attractive to each other by limiting soy nonsense, improving the economy, discouraging social media or banning it, promoting athleticism, adding legal benefits to marriage, and discouraging promiscuity as well as other things I can't think of ATM rather than placing a disproportionate amount of blame on individuals who are products of the collective choices of everyone in a shitty incentive structure.

 

[JBcollector]

@Papal_Guard

Explain why society owes you female intimacy

Because we were told it's a mutual things

 

[JBcollector]

This idea that inkwells think they're entitled to sex is such nonsense as is the solution of limiting women's autonomy by making them fraternize with ugly men, a position few have ever claim unironically and what would be totally unrealistic and immoral.

You could make the argument that the government or society should cultivate an environment in which men and women are able to reasonably be attractive to each other by limiting soy nonsense, improving the economy, discouraging social media or banning it, promoting athleticism, adding legal benefits to marriage, and discouraging promiscuity as well as other things I can't think of ATM rather than placing a disproportionate amount of blame on individuals who are products of the collective choices of everyone in a shitty incentive structure.

Hold on why shouldn't men be entitled to sex

Do you think when men married a women's in the middle Ages he was not expecting sex and babies

 

[Deleted member 2507]

This idea that inkwells think they're entitled to sex is such nonsense as is the solution of limiting women's autonomy by making them fraternize with ugly men, a position few have ever claim unironically and what would be totally unrealistic and immoral.

You could make the argument that the government or society should cultivate an environment in which men and women are able to reasonably be attractive to each other by limiting soy nonsense, improving the economy, discouraging social media or banning it, promoting athleticism, adding legal benefits to marriage, and discouraging promiscuity as well as other things I can't think of ATM rather than placing a disproportionate amount of blame on individuals who are products of the collective choices of everyone in a shitty incentive structure.

This sounds like a fucking reddit comment. On what planet do you live in where you think the government can help override thousands of years of evolution and instinct?