"Inclusivist" white supremacists STILL don't accept Albanians, Maltese or Turks as "white".

[Eduardo DOV]

to me is about having the white face and being culturally european, who cares about genes lol
they look european to me, even jews do, aesthetically
The question is: are they in favor of Muslim and African immigration or not? That is what matters most.

 

[Deleted member 217459]

I think the only disqualification for hair color is pure black hair.
No white people have pure black hair.
Dark brown maybe questionable if it’s dark enough to look black in most cases.
But anything between blonde, dirty blonde/light brown and brunette are considered white hair colors.
Blonde is not the only white hair color..
Most Ukrainians are brunette like other Slavs.

The REAL issue here is that the VAST MAJORITY of them have brown eyes, NOT their hair color -- you are WELL aware of this which is why you CONVENIENTLY skipped past it.

 

[Saint Casanova]

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This better

What’s this shit ?

Portuguese are definitely very swarthy, should be red tbh. Northern Italy should be as white as northern Spain.

 

[Olivecel]

The REAL issue here is that the VAST MAJORITY of them have brown eyes, NOT their hair color -- you are WELL aware of this which is why you CONVENIENTLY skipped past it.

1. Any source to confirm that or are you just pulling this out of your ass?
2. White pepple can have brown eyes too, especially hazel. The only disqualification are black eyes.

 

[Saint Casanova]

The REAL issue here is that the VAST MAJORITY of them have brown eyes, NOT their hair color -- you are WELL aware of this which is why you CONVENIENTLY skipped past it.

Because most Europeans, even a lot of northern ones typically have brown eyes.

The bright blue eyes you can see are very rare

 

[Olivecel]

What’s this shit ?

Portuguese are definitely very swarthy, should be red tbh. Northern Italy should be as white as northern Spain.

Southern Spain and Portugal I’ll change eventually.
I made this last year when I didn’t really know shit about Iberians.
I just assumed they were white cause of the racial laws they implemented on the indigenous in LATAM so that was enough for me to assume they must be white.

 

[Saint Casanova]

Southern Spain and Portugal I’ll change eventually.
I made this last year when I didn’t really know shit about Iberians.
I just assumed they were white cause of the racial laws they implemented on the indigenous in LATAM so that was enough for me to assume they must be white.

 

[Olivecel]

What’s this shit ?

Portuguese are definitely very swarthy, should be red tbh. Northern Italy should be as white as northern Spain.

But also white was first coined by the Spaniards to describe themselves in contrast to the indigenous.
If they were brown like them then they wouldn’t have made this classification.

 

[Saint Casanova]

But also white was first coined by the Spaniards to describe themselves in contrast to the indigenous.
If they were brown like them then they wouldn’t have made this classification.

Doesn’t matter what they call themselves. What matters is how they look, whether their features are white, and what their genetics say

 

[Deleted member 217459]

1. Any source to confirm that or are you just pulling this out of your ass?
2. White pepple can have brown eyes too, especially hazel. The only disqualification are black eyes.

Statistically, only TWENTY FIVE percent of Ukraine has blue eyes, meanwhile Finland has NINETY -- I mean you can LITERALLY just look up ALL this information yourself as well.

 

[Debetro]

No, the VAST MAJORITY of Ukrainians have dark hair and brown eyes -- Belarus and Russia have FAR MORE fair people with colored eyes. And I only put Russia in GREEN because the country is just so MASSIVE that half of it is considered part of Asia -- what everyone considers EUROPEAN Russia as in Moscow and all that, the average person is quite pale with LOTS of colored eyes. As for Finns -- nearly ALL of them have not just pale skin but also fair hair and NINETY PERCENT have blue eyes, they are phenotypically WHITE as fuck.

Ukrainians have more turkic admixture. Their land has always been disputed by many different people. I If Russia was just the northwest part of it, it would be white too imo.

But also white was first coined by the Spaniards to describe themselves in contrast to the indigenous.
If they were brown like them then they wouldn’t have made this classification.

You would be surprised how light spaniards were portrayed in medieval paintings.

 

[Olivecel]

Doesn’t matter what they call themselves. What matters is how they look, whether their features are white, and what their genetics say

They are whiter than Greeks and Italians tho.

 

[Saint Casanova]

They are whiter than Greeks and Italians tho.

Yes they’re whiter than Greeks. Not so sure about Italians especially northern ones.

Portugal is full red. They are the same as Greeks

 

[Debetro]

Yes they’re whiter than Greeks. Not so sure about Italians especially northern ones.

Portugal is full red. They are the same as Greeks

 

[Saint Casanova]

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Badg96 mogs ronaldo

 

[Marsiere214]

You must be Italian or Greek smh..


Gypsies have their own group and don’t mix with ethnic Albanians, Romanians, Greeks, etc.


You’ve got it all wrong.
Lebanese do have white admix, but Greeks and southern Italians also have MENA admix. That’s exactly how they plot fairly close genetically and almost meet in the middle, because they both share similar amounts of MENA/European admix.
Why do you think Ashkenazi samples plot alongside southern Italian and Greek samples? It’s because they originate from the Levant, but have mixed with Europeans. So they all share similar amounts of MENA/European admix.

This is the genetic composition of mainland Greeks from Attica:
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Ashkenazi Jew:
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Sicilian:
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Lebanese:
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Commercial dna tests are not legitimate at all they are pseudo tests real genetic studies show the exact opposite so it looks like ur the one who’s cherry picking if at all. Greeks and nenas do share a European admix but Greeks don’t have natufian ancestry and research done by peer reviewed papers by universities show this. The levant admix ur showing is shared by all Europeans. Literally zero mention of natufian.
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/201...ave-near-mythical-origins-ancient-dna-reveals

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smar...-mysterious-origins-ancient-greeks-180964314/

https://www.thenationalherald.com/181104/modern-greeks-dna-similar-mycenaeans-minoans-study-finds/

https://www.livescience.com/60027-origins-of-1st-advanced-greek-civilizations.html

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-40791188

https://www.nature.com/articles/nature2331

https://www.nature.com/articles/ejhg201718

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Fuck Stormfront. They don’t know shit.
They don’t care about the science. They just pick and choose based on who they like and don’t like.
I used to be a member.
A moderator specifically stated that anybody who is not R1b, R1a or I2, is not white. So by that logic, why are Greeks white if they are mostly J2 and E1b (just like Albanians)??
It’s because they pick and choose. SF is full of contradictive inbreds.
And apparently, neither you or Stormfront can make that decision if there is no “college based study on the Albanian genome”. The only thing we to base off of are the many individual DNA tests of Albanians who all share a similar composition to Greek ones..

Yes there’s Nordicist in stormfront but most are not if Greeks were not white they wouldn’t be there as the forums believe in the 1% drop rule. Yeah and individual tests done by a commercial company is not a valid dna test you can do a simple research on that it’s a simple google research

Because southern Euros are ethnic but always deny it. They’re always trying to get the white-pass.
If they didn’t care so much themselves, nobody else would talk about it.

nah u just have an inferiority complex and ur trying to be white by proxy like it or not but southern European are white and European Lebanese and all the other shitskins are not and are Arabs.

 

[Olivecel]

Commercial dna tests are not legitimate at all they are pseudo tests real genetic studies show the exact opposite so it looks like ur the one who’s cherry picking if at all.

But your random ahh opinion is legitimate?
I mean afterall you literally said there is “no university study on the Albanian genome” (which also is wrong, just so you know).
With that being said, you cannot accurately decide whether or not they are white if you are not particularly aware of any studies done on them.
However there’s a ton of non-commercial studies done by professional geneticists from various universities that I’ll get into for you, some of which do include Albanian samples.

By the way, do you realize how bad you’re contradicting yourself?

Greeks and nenas do share a European admix but Greeks don’t have natufian ancestry and research done by peer reviewed papers by universities show this. The levant admix ur showing is shared by all Europeans. Literally zero mention of natufian.

They have both European and MENA admix* in different variations.

I’ve seen all these studies before.
I’ll go one by one to explain all of your contradictions and misinterpretations.

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/201...ave-near-mythical-origins-ancient-dna-reveals

Holy fuck now I’m convinced that you’re actually stupid.
This study just explains how modern Greeks are closely related to the ancient ones.
As I said earlier, Greeks were mixed as early as the Bronze Age, and this study literally states that:
This paragraph alone contradicts your “1% theory”,

And this paragraph explains where the Iranian Neolithic and Caucasian HG play a role in the Greek gene pool (as I showed you earlier),

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smar...-mysterious-origins-ancient-greeks-180964314/

And this is the same study holy FUCK you’re actually stupid.

https://www.thenationalherald.com/181104/modern-greeks-dna-similar-mycenaeans-minoans-study-finds/

Same study..

https://www.livescience.com/60027-origins-of-1st-advanced-greek-civilizations.html

Same study..

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-40791188

Same study..

https://www.nature.com/articles/nature2331

Yawn.. same study.
https://www.nature.com/articles/nature23310

https://www.nature.com/articles/ejhg201718

All this explains is that Greeks were not replaced by Slavs to a significant degree.
This is kinda irrelevant to the argument but I guess it’s your way of coping with any source you can find even if it’s unrelated.
Slavs would’ve actually helped your case anyway, because they are whiter than Greeks.

Yes there’s Nordicist in stormfront but most are not if Greeks were not white they wouldn’t be there as the forums believe in the 1% drop rule.

There’s a ton of mixed opinions on Stormfront. There is no official rule.
Some consider Greeks white, others don’t. Same with Albanians, Sicilians and even Armenians.
Most topics about Greeks are from way back in the early 2000’s, so much of their opinions could change with the production of more recent information despite not being mentioned more recently on the forum.

Yeah and individual tests done by a commercial company is not a valid dna test you can do a simple research on that it’s a simple google research

As I said above , there’s a ton of non-commercial studies done by professional geneticists from various universities. They all include Albanians.
So you can’t cope your way out of these ones..

Iosif Lazaridis, the geneticist from Harvard who did the same study that you just linked:

Shows Albanian samples plot directly alongside mainland Greek samples.

Rodriguez-Valera, from University of Madrid, showing similar results:

Another non-commercial study. This one doesn’t include Albanians but it does show how Greeks share more similar components with Turks, Armenians, Ashkenazi Jews and Levantine groups than they do with northern/western Europeans and Slavs:

nah u just have an inferiority complex and ur trying to be white by proxy like it or not but southern European are white and European Lebanese and all the other shitskins are not and are Arabs.

First of all I’m half Greek.
I’d literally prefer not to be white because I know we’re more unique and greater than that, though the discussion varies person to person.
We’re gray area. So cope (if you’re Greek too).

 

[Marsiere214]

But your random ahh opinion is legitimate?
I mean afterall you literally said there is “no university study on the Albanian genome” (which also is wrong, just so you know).
With that being said, you cannot accurately decide whether or not they are white if you are not particularly aware of any studies done on them.
However there’s a ton of non-commercial studies done by professional geneticists from various universities that I’ll get into for you, some of which do include Albanian samples.

By the way, do you realize how bad you’re contradicting yourself?


They have both European and MENA admix* in different variations.

I’ve seen all these studies before.
I’ll go one by one to explain all of your contradictions and misinterpretations.

Holy fuck now I’m convinced that you’re actually stupid.
This study just explains how modern Greeks are closely related to the ancient ones.
As I said earlier, Greeks were mixed as early as the Bronze Age, and this study literally states that:
This paragraph alone contradicts your “1% theory”,
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how does that contradict anything are u dense or retarded? That does not contradict the 1% theory now I know for a fact ur just a coping ethnic with zero understanding of genes

But your random ahh opinion is legitimate?
I mean afterall you literally said there is “no university study on the Albanian genome” (which also is wrong, just so you know).
With that being said, you cannot accurately decide whether or not they are white if you are not particularly aware of any studies done on them.
However there’s a ton of non-commercial studies done by professional geneticists from various universities that I’ll get into for you, some of which do include Albanian samples.

Mine are legitimate because they are done by accredited universities while ur spaming some gay studies from some commercial company.

But your random ahh opinion is legitimate?
I mean afterall you literally said there is “no university study on the Albanian genome” (which also is wrong, just so you know).
With that being said, you cannot accurately decide whether or not they are white if you are not particularly aware of any studies done on them.
However there’s a ton of non-commercial studies done by professional geneticists from various universities that I’ll get into for you, some of which do include Albanian samples.

By the way, do you realize how bad you’re contradicting yourself?


They have both European and MENA admix* in different variations.


And this paragraph explains where the Iranian Neolithic and Caucasian HG play a role in the Greek gene pool (as I showed you earlier),
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How does that show none white admix u brainlet? That’s literally white dna that’s common amongst all whites. Mirin ur massive rebuttal.

All this explains is that Greeks were not replaced by Slavs to a significant degree.
This is kinda irrelevant to the argument but I guess it’s your way of coping with any source you can find even if it’s unrelated.
Slavs would’ve actually helped your case anyway, because they are whiter than Greeks.


There’s a ton of mixed opinions on Stormfront. There is no official rule.
Some consider Greeks white, others don’t. Same with Albanians, Sicilians and even Armenians.
Most topics about Greeks are from way back in the early 2000’s, so much of their opinions could change with the production of more recent information despite not being mentioned more recently on the forum.


As I said above , there’s a ton of non-commercial studies done by professional geneticists from various universities. They all include Albanians.
So you can’t cope your way out of these ones..

, the geneticist from Harvard who did the same study that you just linked:
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Shows Albanian samples plot directly alongside mainland Greek samples.

Rodriguez-Valera, from University of Madrid, showing similar results:
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Another non-commercial study. This one doesn’t include Albanians but it does show how Greeks share more similar components with Turks, Armenians, Ashkenazi Jews and Levantine groups than they do with northern/western Europeans and Slavs:
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First of all I’m half Greek.
I’d literally prefer not to be white because I know we’re more unique and greater than that, though the discussion varies person to person.
We’re gray area. So cope (if you’re Greek too).

there’s is no genetic research done into Albanians posted into an accredited peer reviewed journal the reason why Albanians are included is because the genecist uses unreliable samples. You’re half Greek and you’ve never lived in Greece so ur prolly some deathnic wishing to be accepted as being white.
Just because u plot to someone it doesn’t mean u don’t have non white admix and just because something originates from the Middle East it doesn’t mean it’s not white. Greeks have white Middle East admix while the menas have bin white admix hence why they look different. Thats to difficult for ur brain to comprehend.
The map ur showing for Rodriguez Varela can’t be found in any accredited scientific/academic journal it’s found on Eupedia mirin ur Eupedia refutation.

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

There are types of white supremacists. All of them idiotic and absurd for clutching onto a social construct that is not scientific. But whatever.

The most "inclusivist" site aka Stormfront doesn't regard Maltese or Albanians as "white". This is the same site that bans people who argue Greeks aren't "white". Albanians are almost genetically and physically indistinguishable from mainland Greeks. They use genetic and physical arguments (we know religion plays a part too) to argue that Albanians "aren't white". These arguments apply to the same people (mainland Greeks) who they ban you for questioning their "whiteness". Make it make sense.

As for the Maltese, they probably saw some studies that clustered them with Jews and said "Nope, not white" and then decided it was thus. Wanna tell these guys about Maltese and Southern Italians? I'm sure they'll ban you for questioning the "whiteness" of Southern Italians or equating Southern Italians to Jews (which is what all studies do).

Turks are excluded but not Greeks. Even though Turks are closely related to Greeks and Southern Italians. Genetic distances between Greeks and Turks is substantially smaller than the same between Finns and Swedes. Speaking of Finns (and also Saami), these groups derive >10% of their ancestry from Eastern Eurasia. Why don't you kick Finns out of your "white race"?

This is what happens when you have a retarded ideology based on non-meaningful concepts. Nobody can define what a "white person" is and since admxiture varies between ethnic groups, purity of blood won't cut it.

Yep and I love it because it shows how race is a social construct and yes RELGION plays a role

If Turks and Albanians became Christian overnight the white race would embrace them
As fellow cumskins but we know they won’t ever do that for the reasons you mentioned

Also Maltise because they have a semetic language yep that’s why once again cumskins being retarded as usual.

This is what people mean when they say “race is a social construct” because the line is blurry and every race eventually spills into another race making this arbitrary delineator literally meaningless and false”

It’s funny because Sulla the Roman dictator was known for being strawberry blonde and having blue eyes and blotchy skin, because the Romans usually WERE DARKSKINNED MED PEOPLE so for them it was very unusual and striking and the writers had to constantly bring up Sullas barbarian looks

Fucking white dupremacists on suicide watch

 

[Olivecel]

how does that contradict anything are u dense or retarded? That does not contradict the 1% theory now I know for a fact ur just a coping ethnic with zero understanding of genes

“inherited DNA from people near modern-day Iran”.

The study does not tell us in depth who exactly these people were, so it’s hard to say whether or not they were ‘white’. But based on historic migration patterns in that particular region throughout the Neolithic period -> the Bronze Age, it’s likely these people were Iranian Neolithic Farmers (INF). INF were certainly not white, as they are a major ancestral component of present-day Middle Easterners (especially Iranians, Kurds and Iraqis), who are not white.

Mine are legitimate because they are done by accredited universities while ur spaming some gay studies from some commercial company.

You did not provide any accredited study to describe how Albanians are not white.
It’s just something you’re saying on here..
Again, I agree with you about Albanians. But it’s giga cope to try and include Greeks as whites while simultaneously excluding Albanians when they’re literally equal on all genetic scales, and geographic neighbors with all the same migration patterns throughout history..

How does that show none white admix u brainlet? That’s literally white dna that’s common amongst all whites. Mirin ur massive rebuttal.

Bullshit.
Iranian Neolithic Farmer is not common among any European ethnic group besides Greeks, Bulgarians, Albanians and southern Italians. All who are not white for that reason plus more..

there’s is no genetic research done into Albanians posted into an accredited peer reviewed journal

Then what information do you base your comments about Albanians?
If you don’t know any accredited genetic studies on Albanians supposedly..?

the reason why Albanians are included is because the genecist uses unreliable samples.

Holy cope JFL.
Imagine convincing yourself that you know more than the geneticists.
“b b but you used fake samples”

You’re half Greek and you’ve never lived in Greece so ur prolly some deathnic wishing to be accepted as being white.

I don’t. Fuck you mayocel pussies.

Just because u plot to someone it doesn’t mean u don’t have non white admix

It means they plot nearest to other samples with similar ancestral components.
You stupid fuck.

and just because something originates from the Middle East it doesn’t mean it’s not white.

True. But for the case of Iranian Neolithic Farmer, that is not fucking white.
Otherwise then most of the Middle East today would just be fucking white!

Greeks have white Middle East admix while the menas have bin white admix hence why they look different. Thats to difficult for ur brain to comprehend.

Is it difficult for your brain to comprehend that Iranian NF is not a white component? And neither is Levantine NF because it contains Nafufian origins.

The map ur showing for Rodriguez Varela can’t be found in any accredited scientific/academic journal it’s found on Eupedia mirin ur Eupedia refutation.

But the one done by Lazaridis is. And it shows pretty much the same results for the case of Greeks and Albanians.
There’s no way in coping your way out of this.

 

[Marsiere214]

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“inherited DNA from people near modern-day Iran”.

Near modern day Iran in the Caucasus where most whites originate from what a fucking surprise retard.

The study does not tell us in depth who exactly these people were, so it’s hard to say whether or not they were ‘white’. But based on historic migration patterns in that particular region throughout the Neolithic period -> the Bronze Age, it’s likely these people were Iranian Neolithic Farmers (INF).

Except that they were not they were Anatolian hunter gatherers not Iranian the anatolians owe 10% of their ancestry to the Caucasus u dumb ass. I like how u perverted his words and tried to spin it in ur own favor like every other uneducated shitskin.

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“inherited DNA from people near modern-day Iran”.




You did not provide any accredited study to describe how Albanians are not white.
It’s just something you’re saying on here..
Again, I agree with you about Albanians. But it’s giga cope to try and include Greeks as whites while simultaneously excluding Albanians when they’re literally equal on all genetic scales, and geographic neighbors with all the same migration patterns throughout history..

because accredited peer reviewed scientific studies in the genome of the Albanians do not exist hence why people rely on history. The only study that exists is not peer reviewed and it’s not published in any reliable scientific journal.
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Holy cope JFL.
Imagine convincing yourself that you know more than the geneticists.
“b b but you used fake

Quit putting words in my mouth u retard that’s what the genecists themselves say not me it’s a fact that there’s no reliable genetic study done on Albanians like it or not u deathnic shitskin.

It means they plot nearest to other samples with similar ancestral components.
You stupid fuck.

This is literally the proof u don’t know what ur talking about and that ur an uneducated retard who can’t read basic papers so I’m going to explain it to u in simple terms. If two brothers have two different fathers one is white the other one is non white the child would still plot close to his brother (bad explanation but it’s the best one u can give to a retard like urself)

True. But for the case of Iranian Neolithic Farmer, that is not fucking white.
Otherwise then most of the Middle East today would just be fucking white!

Again perverting what the genecist says doesn’t help your case at all

Is it difficult for your brain to comprehend that Iranian NF is not a white component? And neither is Levantine NF because it contains Nafufian origins

Thanks for saying a bunch of nothing modern day Greeks have ZERO non white ancestry and that not what makes shitskins brown and racially different because if that was the case then Germans would be brown too because they too have NF.

But the one done by Lazaridis is. And it shows pretty much the same results for the case of Greeks and Albanians.
There’s no way in coping your way out of this.

More proof that ur scientifically illiterate and uneducated again if u can’t read a scientific paper u can just say it and call it a day.

 

[Olivecel]

Near modern day Iran in the Caucasus where most whites originate from what a fucking surprise retard.

White people originate from the Yamnaya Steppe region, just north of the Caucasus. They descend primarily from a combination of European Hunter-Gatherer populations and Ancient North Euasians (ANE), with minor Caucasus Hunter-Gatherer input that is so insignificant it doesn’t even show up in most DNA results for northern/western European individuals.
It’s only significant enough to show up in Greek, Albanian and Italian DNA results.

The Caucasian theory has been easily debunked for the most part.

Except that they were not they were Anatolian hunter gatherers not Iranian the anatolians owe 10% of their ancestry to the Caucasus u dumb ass. I like how u perverted his words and tried to spin it in ur own favor like every other uneducated shitskin.

Is English not your first langauge? Because it seems you’re not able to comprehend.
It says “additional DNA from people in the Caucasus near modern-day Iran”.
Which means that this component is separate from their Anatolian Farmer component.

because accredited peer reviewed scientific studies in the genome of the Albanians do not exist hence why people rely on history. The only study that exists is not peer reviewed and it’s not published in any reliable scientific journal.
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The samples that Lazaridis used are accredited.
Cope.

Quit putting words in my mouth u retard that’s what the genecists themselves say not me it’s a fact that there’s no reliable genetic study done on Albanians like it or not u deathnic shitskin.

As I said above

If two brothers have two different fathers one is white the other one is non white the child would still plot close to his brother (bad explanation but it’s the best one u can give to a retard like urself)

That’s not how it works for race you fucking idiot. A mixed kid will not plot anywhere near to a pure-blooded white kid on a racial scale if they are not sibling.
But of course siblings will plot close regardless of one being mixed, but that has nothing to do with their racial composition.
Greeks and Albanians are an entire ethnic group. Not a fucking child. These samples were not bothers and sisters, they were random ass niggas. Which means they share the same ancestral components despite these samples not being related to each other.

Again perverting what the genecist says doesn’t help your case at all

Thanks for saying a bunch of nothing modern day Greeks have ZERO non white ancestry and that not what makes shitskins brown and racially different because

They have a ton of non-white ancestry.
Cope.

if that was the case then Germans would be brown too because they too have NF.

But they don’t have any Caucasian or Iranian Neolithic Farmer.
Otherwise, show me an accredited source for them too, before I do..

More proof that ur scientifically illiterate and uneducated again if u can’t read a scientific paper u can just say it and call it a day.

Thats you fucking moron.

 

[Marsiere214]

Is “additional DNA from people in the Caucasus near modern-day Iran”.

now ur fucking getting u braided ape in the Caucasus which is near Iran therefore they are not talking about the Iranian dna u brainlet ur the one who says they have Iranic not the genecist.

White people originate from the Yamnaya Steppe region, just north of the Caucasus. They descend primarily from a combination of European Hunter-Gatherer populations and Ancient North Euasians (ANE), with minor Caucasus Hunter-Gatherer input that is so insignificant it doesn’t even show up in most DNA results for northern/western European individuals.
It’s only significant enough to show up in Greek, Albanian and Italian DNA results.

The Caucasian theory has been easily debunked for the most part.


Is English not your first langauge? Because it seems you’re not able to comprehend.
It says “additional DNA from people in the Caucasus near modern-day Iran”.
Which means that this component is separate from their Anatolian Farmer component.

that’s the point u retard neither do Greeks have the Iranian nf. The only Greeks who can get the iranic ancestry that ur talking about are the Pontic greeks.

White people originate from the Yamnaya Steppe region, just north of the Caucasus. They descend primarily from a combination of European Hunter-Gatherer populations and Ancient North Euasians (ANE), with minor Caucasus Hunter-Gatherer input that is so insignificant it doesn’t even show up in most DNA results for northern/western European individuals.
It’s only significant enough to show up in Greek, Albanian and Italian DNA results.

‘Fourth strand’ of European ancestry originated with hunter-gatherers isolated by Ice Age

Populations of hunter-gatherers weathered Ice Age in apparent isolation in Caucasus mountain region for millennia, later mixing with other ancestral

www.cam.ac.uk

Genetic history of East-Central Europe in the first millennium CE - PMC

The appearance of Slavs in East-Central Europe has been the subject of an over 200-year debate driven by two conflicting hypotheses. The first assumes that Slavs came to the territory of contemporary Poland no earlier than the sixth century CE; the ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Except that it does it just doesn’t show up on ur Eupedia research

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The samples that Lazaridis used are accredited.
Cope.


As I said above


That’s not how it works for race you fucking idiot. A mixed kid will not plot anywhere near to a pure-blooded white kid on a racial scale if they are not sibling.
But of course siblings will plot close regardless of one being mixed, but that has nothing to do with their racial composition.
Greeks and Albanians are an entire ethnic group. Not a fucking child. These samples were not bothers and sisters, they were random ass niggas. Which means they share the same ancestral components despite these samples not being related to each other.

ur really fucking braindead aren’t u? U miss the point by such a large margin that this makes me thing u have some sort of learning disability This is an analogy and if u can’t comprehend an analogy that makes u sub 80iq.
Post the study where Iosif Lazaridis compares Albanians and Greeks samples outside of eupedia.

They have a ton of non-white ancestry.
Cope.

Ur just jealous coz Greeks r white and ur brown. Ur pathetic attempts at trying to convince stormfront and white people of ur whiteness are making u look even more cringe. I do feel sorry for stepping on you and reminding u where u belong.

 

[Olivecel]

now ur fucking getting u braided ape in the Caucasus which is near Iran therefore they are not talking about the Iranian dna u brainlet ur the one who says they have Iranic not the genecist.

Caucasus HG is still not a European type so it does not help your argument.
There are indirect traces via connections between Steppe pastoralists, but that’s different than carrying a direct amount significant enough to show up on DNA results.

that’s the point u retard neither do Greeks have the Iranian nf. The only Greeks who can get the iranic ancestry that ur talking about are the Pontic greeks.

And just like so, there goes your whole 1% theory in favor of Greeks. With your own words..
And not only Pontic Greeks, but also Islander Greeks, Cypriot Greeks as well as Greeks from western Anatolia all carry some of it.
Add that altogether and it’s at least 40% of the Greek population at this point.

‘Fourth strand’ of European ancestry originated with hunter-gatherers isolated by Ice Age

Populations of hunter-gatherers weathered Ice Age in apparent isolation in Caucasus mountain region for millennia, later mixing with other ancestral

www.cam.ac.uk

Genetic history of East-Central Europe in the first millennium CE - PMC

The appearance of Slavs in East-Central Europe has been the subject of an over 200-year debate driven by two conflicting hypotheses. The first assumes that Slavs came to the territory of contemporary Poland no earlier than the sixth century CE; the ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

I’ll read these tomorrow I’m sleepy.

Except that it does it just doesn’t show up on ur Eupedia research

Eupedia has good sources.
You just refuse to believe any of them.

ur really fucking braindead aren’t u? U miss the point by such a large margin that this makes me thing u have some sort of learning disability This is an analogy and if u can’t comprehend an analogy that makes u sub 80iq.

I understand your analogy. But it simply does not apply.
That’s why I corrected you.
Comparing ethnic groups is an entirely different topic of genetics from comparing siblings. Which is why that analogy does not apply.
Since Greeks and Albanians are ethnic groups, not siblings, their ancestral components are similar in order for them plot close on pca scales.
If an Albanian had even a single ancestral component that a Greek didn’t have, then they wouldn’t plot alongside each other like they do, unless these two in particular actually are siblings.
In the case of these DNA samples, they are not siblings.
I hope this narrow breakdown helps you. Low iq fucks like you need it.

Post the study where Iosif Lazaridis compares Albanians and Greeks samples outside of eupedia.

The pca diagram that I posted already compares the samples.
Look for yourself.

Beyond that study, I found a long study done on Albanians here:

Ancient DNA reveals the origins of the Albanians

The origins of the Albanian people have long been debated, as they first appear in historical records in the 11th century CE, and their language is not closely related to any surviving Indo-European branches. To elucidate the origins of the Albanians, we analysed over 6,000 ancient West Eurasian...

www.biorxiv.org

Ur just jealous coz Greeks r white and ur brown. Ur pathetic attempts at trying to convince stormfront and white people of ur whiteness are making u look even more cringe.

No I already told you that I don’t give a fuck about being white.
Yes I’m not white. I’m happy with that.
And no Greeks are not fucking white. They’re ethnic and you don’t even have to believe all the genetic shit posted, you can literally just look at them and see it,

These Greek mf’s are NOT white.
Some relatives of mine.

I do feel sorry for stepping on you and reminding u where u belong.

I do feel sorry that the entire importance of your mayocel culture is dependent on that of Greek history.
If it weren’t for that, you’d agree with me that Greeks aren’t white.
The reason why you choose not to include Albanians is for the fact that they historically converted to Islam, and of course lack any historic importance. Despite not knowing any genetic sources to back your opinion, these are good enough reasons as to why it’s so easy for you to believe Albanians are not white as opposed to Greeks.

 

[Marsiere214]

Caucasus HG is still not a European type so it does not help your argument.
There are indirect traces via connections between Steppe pastoralists, but that’s different than carrying a direct amount significant enough to show up on DNA results.


And just like so, there goes your whole 1% theory in favor of Greeks. With your own words..
And not only Pontic Greeks, but also Islander Greeks, Cypriot Greeks as well as Greeks from western Anatolia all carry some of it.
Add that altogether and it’s at least 40% of the Greek population at this

Literally saying nothing. Like. Ur absolutely just wasting my time at this point. Pontic Greeks are not 40% of the population and u have no scientific evidence that western Anatolian Greeks carry non white dna at all or that Greeks do and no Eupedia does not have good sources the studies u posted do not exist and are not posted in any scientific journal of any kind. I am posting science ur posting sources from a blogger while also making stuff.

Caucasus HG is still not a European type so it does not help your argument.
There are indirect traces via connections between Steppe pastoralists, but that’s different than carrying a direct amount significant enough to show up on DNA results.


And just like so, there goes your whole 1% theory in favor of Greeks. With your own words..
And not only Pontic Greeks, but also Islander Greeks, Cypriot Greeks as well as Greeks from western Anatolia all carry some of it.
Add that altogether and it’s at least 40% of the Greek population at this point.


I’ll read these tomorrow I’m sleepy.


Eupedia has good sources.
You just refuse to believe any of them.


I understand your analogy. But it simply does not apply.
That’s why I corrected you.
Comparing ethnic groups is an entirely different topic of genetics from comparing siblings. Which is why that analogy does not apply.
Since Greeks and Albanians are ethnic groups, not siblings, their ancestral components are similar in order for them plot close on pca scales.
If an Albanian had even a single ancestral component that a Greek didn’t have, then they wouldn’t plot alongside each other like they do, unless these two in particular actually are siblings.
In the case of these DNA samples, they are not siblings.
I hope this narrow breakdown helps you. Low iq fucks like you need it.


The pca diagram that I posted already compares the samples.
Look for yourself.

Legit zero sources for anything ur mystical diagram plot. Your claims are not true having different ethnic admix in small amounts does sway an ethnic group like it or not.

Beyond that study, I found a long study done on Albanians here:

Ancient DNA reveals the origins of the Albanians

The origins of the Albanian people have long been debated, as they first appear in historical records in the 11th century CE, and their language is not closely related to any surviving Indo-European branches. To elucidate the origins of the Albanians, we analysed over 6,000 ancient West Eurasian...

www.biorxiv.org

BioRxiv is not a reliable scientific source for definitive research findings because it is a preprint server, not a peer-reviewed journal
. The articles it hosts have not been formally validated or vetted by experts in the field
And again there goes ur credibility.

I do feel sorry that the entire importance of your mayocel culture is dependent on that of Greek history.
If it weren’t for that, you’d agree with me that Greeks aren’t white.
The reason why you choose not to include Albanians is for the fact that they historically converted to Islam, and of course lack any historic importance. Despite not knowing any genetic sources to back your opinion, these are good enough reasons as to why it’s so easy for you to believe Albanians are not white as opposed to Greeks.

Last

No Greeks consider themselves white because we are white it’s that simple and u cherry picking Albanian immigrants or other immigrants from Greece does not change that a simple google search like “walk in Athens” or “Thessaloniki” proves u otherwise. Even in ur favorite psuedo scientific blog Eupedia it says that anthropologicaly Greeks are white meds and not shitskins like urself. It’s pointless arguing with an ape who can’t tell the difference between a scientific journal and a blog like Eupedia.

 

[Olivecel]

Literally saying nothing. Like. Ur absolutely just wasting my time at this point. Pontic Greeks are not 40% of the population

They are approx. 5-10% of the population by statistics. Not to mention by now they mixed with other Greeks and heavily diluted the overall population..
So there goes your 1% rule for Greeks.
It’s over. Let it go.

and u have no scientific evidence that western Anatolian Greeks carry non white dna at all or that Greeks do

Well if you don’t believe the commercial studies then that’s on you.
There are no accredited studies that go in depth about specific Greek populations that I actually know of.. Besides the one study by Lazaridis placing plot samples in a pca diagram (the one that includes Albanian samples, I posted several times).

and no Eupedia does not have good sources the studies u posted do not exist and are not posted in any scientific journal of any kind. I am posting science ur posting sources from a blogger while also making stuff.

Woke scientific journals are the same ones who will tell you that Arabs are the same race as Europeans. Or that “the white race does not exist”. Or the ‘out of Africa theory’..
So of course no woke scientific journal will post commercial studies. Eupedia is literally considered ‘politically incorrect’.

Legit zero sources for anything ur mystical diagram plot. Your claims are not true having different ethnic admix in small amounts does sway an ethnic group like it or not.

That study is accredited, just so you know.

BioRxiv is not a reliable scientific source for definitive research findings because it is a preprint server, not a peer-reviewed journal
. The articles it hosts have not been formally validated or vetted by experts in the field
And again there goes ur credibility.

“m muh credibility”
I guess we’ll just wait for them to do a “reliable” study. In the meantime, you can’t accurately say whether or not Albanians and Greeks are genetically different without knowing a reliable study that you actually believe.
The samples used by Lazaridis in his study should be enough, but I guess they are not for you .

No Greeks consider themselves white because we are white it’s that simple and u cherry picking Albanian immigrants or other immigrants from Greece

They all have Greek names. They’re Greeks.
Stop coping.

does not change that a simple google search like “walk in Athens” or “Thessaloniki” proves u otherwise.

Ok. Will do.
In fact, I already have.

Even in ur favorite psuedo scientific blog Eupedia it says that anthropologicaly Greeks are white meds and not shitskins like urself.

Because they misinterpret their own sources.
Their own sources will literally show how Greeks and southern Italians plot near to Ashkenazi Jews, yet somehow they are still ‘white’.
These are cases where they will cope their way into saying Ashkenazi Jews are white at that point . I’ve seen it all, you can’t fool me, and I won’t budge.

It’s pointless arguing with an ape who can’t tell the difference between a scientific journal and a blog like Eupedia.

The scientific journal 1. literally does explain admixture of non-whites in the Greek gene pool (Caucasians/possibly Iranian-like) and 2. is outdated at this point and it does not go in depth. It’s a generalized assessment.

That’s why third-party / commercial studies are actually better, they go more in depth. Being accredited isn’t the always the answer. We all know how fucked the mainstream education system is.
You may not even know, the genetic differences between Farmer populations throughout the Neolithic period. The Farmer component in Greeks is not the same type of Farmer component found in other parts of Europe. They have different admixtures and different evolutionary traits via different migration routes and time periods.
But general assessments will categorize it in the same group nonetheless, because they do not go in depth.

 

[Marsiere214]

They are approx. 5-10% of the population by statistics. Not to mention by now they mixed with other Greeks and heavily diluted the overall population..
So there goes your 1% rule for Greeks.
It’s over. Let it go.


Well if you don’t believe the commercial studies then that’s on you.
There are no accredited studies that go in depth about specific Greek populations that I actually know of.


Woke scientific journals are the same ones who will tell you that Arabs are the same race as Europeans. Or that “the white race does not exist”. Or the ‘out of Africa theory’..
So of course no woke scientific journal will post commercial studies. Eupedia is literally considered ‘politically incorrect’.

Again eupedia is a BLOG not a scientific journal. Pontic Greeks are 2.5% of the population and they lived within their communities and were discriminated against until recently so no the 1 drop rule is still doing good. Biological journals have no incentive to lie you are confusing them with blogs or commercial companies and this is coming from someone who is also far right and has to read them often. If anything the commercial studies do this the most and have been proven to add non white ancestry on purpose to Europeans. Myheritage for example tried to over represent Jewish ancestry amongst Hungarians to combat anti semitism with bias sampling. Regulation and standardization is necessary for something to be considered scientific.

Direct-to-Consumer Genetic Testing's Red Herring: “Genetic Ancestry” and Personalized Medicine - PMC

The growth in the direct-to-consumer genetic testing industry poses a number of challenges for healthcare practice, among a number of other areas of concern. Several companies providing this service send their customers reports including information ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

commercial ancestry tests are unreliable because they are based on incomplete genetic databases, use statistical guesswork rather than direct identification, and lack robust scientific standards and regulation. Different companies can produce different results using varying databases and algorithms, and the tests may have difficulty identifying certain ancestries this is why accreditation is important.

Eupedia believes in the “out of Africa”.
If anything it is Eupedia who is doing what you are describing they are the ones who are trying to refute race. Most accredited journals are accredited because they are done by genecists with a university degree not by some random guy on Eupedia. Secondly
Accredited scientific journals are held to rigorous standards maintained through peer review, ethical guidelines, editorial oversight, and external indexing bodies these mechanisms ensure research integrity, promote transparency, and build public trust in scientific findings. There’s also scientific journals that are conservative and “non woke”.

They are approx. 5-10% of the population by statistics. Not to mention by now they mixed with other Greeks and heavily diluted the overall population..
So there goes your 1% rule for Greeks.
It’s over. Let it go.


Well if you don’t believe the commercial studies then that’s on you.
There are no accredited studies that go in depth about specific Greek populations that I actually know of.. Besides the one study by Lazaridis, placing plot samples (the one that includes Albanian samples).

the study with Albanian samples that you speak of literally does not exist if it does post the link to the study in the journal.

 

[johncel27]

I think the only disqualification for hair color is pure black hair.
No white people have pure black hair.
Dark brown maybe questionable if it’s dark enough to look black in most cases.
But anything between blonde, dirty blonde/light brown and brunette are considered white hair colors.
Blonde is not the only white hair color..
Most Ukrainians are brunette like other Slavs.

As for Finns it’s not only about their skin and hair color. It’s more than that. White is also a facial phenotype, and for many Finns you can easily see Siberian admix, especially ones like Sami.

Retarded take tbh

 

[johncel27]

View attachment 4097915

That's a northern spaniard from the most northern part you can get, Galicia, which is actually the region with the most berber blood (even if it's very little) the idea that northern spaniards are whiter than southern spaniards is retarded logic from people that know nothing about Spain's history or genetics

 

[Olivecel]

Pontic Greeks are 2.5% of the population and they lived within their communities and were discriminated against until recently so no the 1 drop rule is still doing good.

“Until recently”.
So the one drop rule no longer applies.
You contradict yourself with every reply.
Sorry. Get over it.

And it’s approx 10% according to the statistics.
15-20% if we include not only Pontic, but also Greeks from other parts of Anatolia such as Cappadocia and Western Anatolia.
Of 5 million people in Greece during the 1920’s, around 500,000 Pontic Greeks were imported with the population exchange. That equals to 10%. Perhaps even more if we consider the amount of people who were also exported from Greece.

Biological journals have no incentive to lie you are confusing them with blogs or commercial companies and this is coming from someone who is also far right and has to read them often. If anything the commercial studies do this the most and have been proven to add non white ancestry on purpose to Europeans. Myheritage for example tried to over represent Jewish ancestry amongst Hungarians to combat anti semitism with bias sampling. Regulation and standardization is necessary for something to be considered scientific.

There are too many commercial studies to try and say that they’re all wrong.
9/10 times they all have similar results.

Direct-to-Consumer Genetic Testing's Red Herring: “Genetic Ancestry” and Personalized Medicine - PMC

The growth in the direct-to-consumer genetic testing industry poses a number of challenges for healthcare practice, among a number of other areas of concern. Several companies providing this service send their customers reports including information ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

commercial ancestry tests are unreliable because they are based on incomplete genetic databases, use statistical guesswork rather than direct identification, and lack robust scientific standards and regulation. Different companies can produce different results using varying databases and algorithms, and the tests may have difficulty identifying certain ancestries this is why accreditation is important.

Eupedia believes in the “out of Africa”.
If anything it is Eupedia who is doing what you are describing they are the ones who are trying to refute race.

Eupedia is a blog/forum. So there’s no solid or universal belief on this subject.
Some threads are in support of it, while many other threads provide sources to debunk it.

Most accredited journals are accredited because they are done by genecists with a university degree not by some random guy on Eupedia.

Random guys on Eupedia are not the ones who created those diagrams I showed you. Geneticists did, and Eupedia members are simply posting them on threads and discussing them just like we are..
You are slow.
Read the source in the description next time.

Secondly
Accredited scientific journals are held to rigorous standards maintained through peer review, ethical guidelines, editorial oversight, and external indexing bodies these mechanisms ensure research integrity, promote transparency, and build public trust in scientific findings. There’s also scientific journals that are conservative and “non woke”.

Surely you will pick and choose. The ‘accredited source’ on Greeks is valid, but of course Cheddar Man wasn’t black as the accredited sources say, right?
These are cases where you will support commercial sources,

the study with Albanian samples that you speak of literally does not exist if it does post the link to the study in the journal.

The samples were collected by Lazaridis and his team for his study. He didn’t do an in-depth research on them likely due to their irrelevance.
The samples are still valid enough.

 

[hopecel]

There are types of white supremacists. All of them idiotic and absurd for clutching onto a social construct that is not scientific. But whatever.

The most "inclusivist" site aka Stormfront doesn't regard Maltese or Albanians as "white". This is the same site that bans people who argue Greeks aren't "white". Albanians are almost genetically and physically indistinguishable from mainland Greeks. They use genetic and physical arguments (we know religion plays a part too) to argue that Albanians "aren't white". These arguments apply to the same people (mainland Greeks) who they ban you for questioning their "whiteness". Make it make sense.

exactly, religion plays a big role but Albanians aren't some Talibans anyway

do you think blue-eyed blond-haired Pashtuns are our fellow whites just because of their appearance? race is more than that

As for the Maltese, they probably saw some studies that clustered them with Jews and said "Nope, not white" and then decided it was thus. Wanna tell these guys about Maltese and Southern Italians? I'm sure they'll ban you for questioning the "whiteness" of Southern Italians or equating Southern Italians to Jews (which is what all studies do).

Maltese are a Semitic group but they're an European nation so I see them as white people unlike Ashkenazi whose homeland is in the Levant

Turks are excluded but not Greeks. Even though Turks are closely related to Greeks and Southern Italians. Genetic distances between Greeks and Turks is substantially smaller than the same between Finns and Swedes. Speaking of Finns (and also Saami), these groups derive >10% of their ancestry from Eastern Eurasia. Why don't you kick Finns out of your "white race"?

Turks are very mixed, some are pure European, some have a large Asian input, some are just swarthy Kurd-alike Anatolians... but I do consider secular Turks as a part of the modern European civilisation

This is what happens when you have a retarded ideology based on non-meaningful concepts. Nobody can define what a "white person" is and since admxiture varies between ethnic groups, purity of blood won't cut it.

it's not only about blood...

 

[Marsiere214]

“Until recently”.
So the one drop rule no longer applies.
You contradict yourself with every reply.
Sorry. Get over it.

Literally just perverting my words and taking them out of context and again I’ve never contradicted myself if anything ur just projecting right now. ur the retard who doesn’t know the difference between science and dogma. Just in case u didn’t know u can’t have 2% (Anatolian Greeks are anthropologically and genetically white) of the population who were living out in isolation and who had fewer births mix out with the rest of the country in less than 40 years I can’t believe I have to explain this coz if this was true all of Europe today would be mutts. U have zero analytical and critical thinking skills as shown. Greeks are not brown it’s just u get over it.

“


There are too many commercial studies to try and say that they’re all wrong.
9/10 times they all have similar results.

Again commercial studies are not scientific
I’ll post this again for u to read since u clearly dropped on ur head
Most accredited journals are accredited because they are done by genecists with a university degree not by some random guy on Eupedia. Secondly
Accredited scientific journals are held to rigorous standards maintained through peer review, ethical guidelines, editorial oversight, and external indexing bodies these mechanisms ensure research integrity, promote transparency, and build public trust in scientific findings.
Inconsistent results Different DTC companies often use different methodologies, databases, and algorithms, which leads to varied and contradictory results. A U.S. Government Accountability Office investigation found that tests from four different companies produced highly varied results that were considered misleading and of "little or no practical use". A 2019 experiment with identical twins sent to five different ancestry companies showed surprisingly different results across the companies.

Direct-to-Consumer Genetic Testing's Red Herring: “Genetic Ancestry” and Personalized Medicine - PMC

The growth in the direct-to-consumer genetic testing industry poses a number of challenges for healthcare practice, among a number of other areas of concern. Several companies providing this service send their customers reports including information ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Lack of regulatory oversight. Unlike clinical genetic testing, the commercial market is largely unregulated. Many companies are not required to hold the same quality standards as clinical labs, and they can use proprietary, non-standard methods for interpretation

“Until recently”.
So the one drop rule no longer applies.
You contradict yourself with every reply.
Sorry. Get over it.

And it’s approx 10% according to the statistics.
15-20% if we include not only Pontic, but also Greeks from other parts of Anatolia such as Cappadocia and Western Anatolia.
Of 5 million people in Greece during the 1920’s, around 500,000 Pontic Greeks were imported with the population exchange. That equals to 10%. Perhaps even more if we consider the amount of people who were also exported from Greece.

Anatolian Greeks are white and European I can see Pontiac’s having non white dna but most of them were isolated in their own parts of Greece and were discriminated against so ur shit still doesn’t stick and non whites were always discriminated in Greece just like in the rest of Europe and in the world people stick to their own kind. Unfortunately there aren’t any genetic studies on them but I can see 50% of them being non white.
Yes they are there’s zero links to any scientific articles that ur posting until u post the articles in the accredited scientific journals ur just pulling shit out of ur ass.

Surely you will pick and choose. The ‘accredited source’ on Greeks is valid, but of course Cheddar Man wasn’t black as the accredited sources say, right?
These are cases where you will support commercial sources,
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The samples were collected by Lazaridis and his team for his study. He didn’t do an in-depth research on them likely due to their irrelevance.
The samples are still valid enough.

I don’t pick and choose ur the one doing it I’ve only posted accredited scientific study done by accredited researchers ur the one posting dogma and being like “trust me bro some random Eupedia blogger knows more than phd genecists” . Ur word/ Random Eupedia blogger with zero accredited studies vs my word and accredited scientific studies. Until u post the studies in the blogs that ur spamming im not gonna bother wasting my time with u, I gave u too many chances and remember science is not a dogma like the quaran don’t confuse the two Mr.sandnigger.

Ang again because u were clearly dropped on ur head:
Accredited scientific journals are held to rigorous standards maintained through peer review, ethical guidelines, editorial oversight, and external indexing bodies these mechanisms ensure research integrity, promote transparency, and build public trust in scientific findings.
Inconsistent results Different DTC companies often use different methodologies, databases, and algorithms, which leads to varied and contradictory results. A U.S. Government Accountability Office investigation found that tests from four different companies produced highly varied results that were considered misleading and of "little or no practical use". A 2019 experiment with identical twins sent to five different ancestry companies showed surprisingly different results across the companies.

Direct-to-Consumer Genetic Testing's Red Herring: “Genetic Ancestry” and Personalized Medicine - PMC

The growth in the direct-to-consumer genetic testing industry poses a number of challenges for healthcare practice, among a number of other areas of concern. Several companies providing this service send their customers reports including information ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Lack of regulatory oversight. Unlike clinical genetic testing, the commercial market is largely unregulated. Many companies are not required to hold the same quality standards as clinical labs, and they can use proprietary, non-standard methods for interpretation

Identical twins getting different results

• In one CBC Marketplace experiment, the DNA of identical twins was sent to five different commercial genetic testing companies.
• Each company provided surprisingly different results for the siblings, even though identical twins share virtually identical DNA

Consistency of Direct to Consumer Genetic Testing Results Among Identical Twins - PMC

To evaluate the consistency of 3 commonly used direct to consumer genetic testing kits. Genetic testing kits are widely marketed by several companies but the consistency of their results is unclear. Since identical twins share the same DNA, their ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

I think ur confusing western science for ur shitskin “science” in ur shitskin country where everything is based on ur faith but western science isn’t like that before talking to me about science perhaps u should educate urself on what science is in the first place.


Are u gonna post the lazaridis study or not? Post it in the accredited scientific journal coz I can’t find it I’ve been waiting on u to post it for weeks if it’s not in any scientific journals than I’m right and the study with the Albanian samples doesn’t exist and I don’t mind being wrong.

Remember every time ur replying I’ve never said Greece is 100% white nation they are non whites in Greece it’s just that 90% of the Greeks are white whether u like it or not and that doesn’t make 90% of the Greeks non white. Just like there’s currently non whites in Russia, Germany, UK, America etc that’s like calling these people mutts coz they have non whites.

 

[Marsiere214]

“Until recently”.

btw did u genuenly think that perverting and testing my words made u “high iq”. It made u look even dumber than u did and it gave me second hand embarrassment, idk how ur not embarrassed from urself.


Made a small edit also.

Literally just perverting my words and taking them out of context and again I’ve never contradicted myself if anything ur just projecting right now. ur the retard who doesn’t know the difference between science and dogma. Just in case u didn’t know u can’t have 2% (Anatolian Greeks are anthropologically and genetically white) of the population who were living out in SYSTEMIC isolation and who had fewer births mix out with the rest of the country in less than 40 ( I say 40 years because that was the time when the prejudices began to slowly fade) years I can’t believe I have to explain this coz if this was true all of Europe today would be mutts. U have zero analytical and critical thinking skills as shown. Greeks are not brown it’s just u get over it.

Forgot to add some sources as I couldn’t find them In my archive on time. here’s some sourc u read about them
Thistorical evidence of systemic of isolation and discrimination against Pontic Greeks in Greece, particularly following their arrival as refugees in the 1920s

https://academic.oup.com/jrs/article-pdf/4/4/382/7571657/4-4-382.pdf

From Trebizond to Kallithea: Pontian Greeks, Perceptions of Greekness, and the Birth of Modern States

By Isaure Vorstman Abstract Between the eighth and sixth centuries B.C., a colony of Greek merchants and sailors left mainland Greece to settle on the northeastern coast of Asia Minor, on the shore…

eurasiatique.ca

the isolation and discrimination of Pontians in Greece(https://digital.library.adelaide.edu.au/dspace/bitstream/2440/88838/8/02whole.pdf)
Although unreliable u can also watch YouTube interviews of them although mostly on Greek about the discrimination and systemic isolation they faced. U can also search on cuckora and cuckedit.

 

[FiendFiend]

Finns=white

Lower then rome italy=not white

Greece=not white

Albania=not white

Turkey=not white

mongols r white

 

[gimmedatacc]

because they aren't. if its even up for debate whether an ethnic group is white... then their not white. also 2+2=4. no one ponders whether or not norwegians are white.

 

[Chadeep]

Yet Magatards Support this Albanian Troon @Jason Voorhees

 

[Marsiere214]

btw did u genuenly think that perverting and testing my words made u “high iq”. It made u look even dumber than u did and it gave me second hand embarrassment, idk how ur not embarrassed from urself.


Made a small edit also.

Forgot to add some sources as I couldn’t find them In my archive on time. here’s some sourc u read about them
Thistorical evidence of systemic of isolation and discrimination against Pontic Greeks in Greece, particularly following their arrival as refugees in the 1920s

https://academic.oup.com/jrs/article-pdf/4/4/382/7571657/4-4-382.pdf

From Trebizond to Kallithea: Pontian Greeks, Perceptions of Greekness, and the Birth of Modern States

By Isaure Vorstman Abstract Between the eighth and sixth centuries B.C., a colony of Greek merchants and sailors left mainland Greece to settle on the northeastern coast of Asia Minor, on the shore…

eurasiatique.ca

the isolation and discrimination of Pontians in Greece(https://digital.library.adelaide.edu.au/dspace/bitstream/2440/88838/8/02whole.pdf)
Although unreliable u can also watch YouTube interviews of them although mostly on Greek about the discrimination and systemic isolation they faced. U can also search on cuckora and cuckedit.

Forgot to add a sauce for the population number of the pontians in the country
@Olivecel
https://pnt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Πόντιοι -use google translate.

Non scientific estimates at the bottom.

Diasporic identities and the shadow of nation-states. The case of the Pontian Greeks

How can a diasporic community build a collective identity in our modern era of nation-states, and how do nation-states respond to them? The case of the Pontian Greeks provides a little-known, yet rele...

www.eurac.edu

 

[Olivecel]

In the end it doesn’t matter what genetic studies you post.
White nationalists do not dive in to the nit-picking niche of genetics.
If your ethnic identity formed in Europe (Greek and Italian did) AND you are Christian, then you’re considered white.
The Jewish ethnic identity did not form in Europe, and they are not Christian. So they are not white despite being genetically closest to southern Italians and Greeks.
Albanians are also not generally considered white within the white nationalist community due to having Islamic history and siding with the Ottomans, plus being involved in a disproportionate amount of crime throughout Europe. It doesn’t matter if they’re “genetically Balkan” to the eyes of white nationalists.. they are viewed as non-European.

So to answer the question “is white biological or a social construct”, it’s both. Plain and simple. It’s biological when referring to blacks (and social). But it’s primarily social when referring to Jews and Albos.
“Race mixing” is also “multi-culturalism” which includes the mixing of religions, customs, behavior, etc.