Infinite surgery loop

I do agree with you, but having a degree doesn't hurt much, you're standing on something that many people don't, it gives you more opportunities.

Having a job via a degree and living at your parents house is actually very good (don't know much in England, but here in Romania, having a degree, finding a job as a junior dev is actually much better than a 600 euro salary (not even 600 tho), it varies around 1500-2000 euros.

Yeah there is a massive difference by country. Here in UK you will make the same £1700 working in the supermarket or as your first few years as a graduate. I’ve 5 years experience as mechanical engineer with a masters degree and only get £2700 a month.

By the time you “catch up” with a degree you are too old anyway for it to matter. Minimum wage all the way in UK. Clearly not in Romania.
 
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Depends on the goals you have with surgery. If its for slaying and actually having a better life because of looks you need to get it early since looks do in fact get less important eith age because girls start go caring about the other things. Sure its possible to slay younger foids still but its a weird dynamic and prob mentally degrading
Yea you kinda need to be looksmaxxed by 22 if you want the promised benefits people fantasise about with surgeries. At least, if you are doing this to get a pretty woman who you can marry then 25 is already late. Actually you need it even earlier like by 20 to also get the mental benefits of your personality and confidence improving due to your looks.

Though if you just want to sleep around meaninglessly then 25 is not late.
 
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Yea you kinda need to be looksmaxxed by 22 if you want the promised benefits people fantasise about with surgeries. At least, if you are doing this to get a pretty woman who you can marry then 25 is already late. Actually you need it even earlier like by 20 to also get the mental benefits of your personality and confidence improving due to your looks.

Though if you just want to sleep around meaninglessly then 25 is not late.
i mean getting a pretgy women to marry is almost never too late. But you will allways be in a cuckhold if you are not good looking and start to date her before 20.

And by 25 its to late to sleep around with very good looking younger girls eho are somewhat normal and you actually feel a geniune good connection between both. Also its such degeneracy to be a slayer at such old age, even tough its worth it if yiu cant do anything else. But any normal people will have there slay period ideally 15-18, decent but worse case 19-21, even shittiee but srill accepted 21-25. After 25 you are just a loser
 
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i mean getting a pretgy women to marry is almost never too late. But you will allways be in a cuckhold if you are not good looking and start to date her before 20.

And by 25 its to late to sleep around with very good looking younger girls eho are somewhat normal and you actually feel a geniune good connection between both. Also its such degeneracy to be a slayer at such old age, even tough its worth it if yiu cant do anything else. But any normal people will have there slay period ideally 15-18, decent but worse case 19-21, even shittiee but srill accepted 21-25. After 25 you are just a loser
Ideal is to marry your high school sweetheart who you started dating at 15 and be with her till the day you die so yea
 
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Ideal is to marry your high school sweetheart who you started dating at 15 and be with her till the day you die so yea
Nah i dont believe in fairy tales lol
 
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Nah i dont believe in fairy tales lol
Yea I said ideal, won't happen to 99.9%

My point was it's better to find your wife early before both you and her get more baggage and experiences, that's why I said you should be looksmaxxed at 20.
 
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Age and Money two of the biggest factors in hardmaxxing. I truly believe our prime years is from 15-22 so high school and university, ideally we would be peak by 18-20 so you could enjoy the back end of your prime years but if in your situation you can't get these procedures till later in life, mid to late 20s or early 30s that's fine but you should at least be softmaxxed to the max. 75% of us can look in the mirror and know that we are far from being softmaxxed being in good muscular shape, good skin, good hair, good smile, good style. Even if you have bad flaws that can only be fixed surgically it shows a level of responsibility as well as a level of cleanliness which is very important. Affording the surgery is a different story this is a time where being an American is so beneficial, there is no way you can complain about affording surgery as an American. If you truly put your head down you could make $15usd an hour driving delivery such as DoorDash x70 hours thats $1000 a week pre tax. If you're in a 3rd would country you MUST earn an income in USD/GDP/EUR while spend money in your local currency. Some of your situations are very tough so you must try for high risk high reward jobs, if you learn how to do some sort of ecom, marketing, social media you can make a solid amount of money. Also, it's important to build up credit from a young age so that you can use personal loans and credit cards to your advantage as well as try to see if your surgeon has some sort of financing plan which some do.
 
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Yall are way too pressed about this age thing.
22 is nowhere near the limit for finishing looksmax and enjoying it after wise.

I think you guys don’t understand how good/better life can be at 30, 40 etc.
Especially if you build real long term things like a happy relationship, kids, being socially appraised etc.
All this can get done at 30 if ure good lokn even if you were subhuman at 25

And who cares about highschool sweetheart thats so corny lmao
 
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Yall are way too pressed about this age thing.
22 is nowhere near the limit for finishing looksmax and enjoying it after wise.

I think you guys don’t understand how good/better life can be at 30, 40 etc.
Especially if you build real long term things like a happy relationship, kids, being socially appraised etc.
All this can get done at 30 if ure good lokn even if you were subhuman at 25

And who cares about highschool sweetheart thats so corny lmao
i said ideally which is true anything below 40 is chill 35 and up pushing it though
 
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Yea surgery should be a very rare thing, when people start doing small nitpicking stuff it usually just turns to shit
dude i am 25 is it over for me
just did bimax 6 weeks ago but need a rhino now lol and then considering periorbital fat grafting thats pretty much it tho
 
Yall are way too pressed about this age thing.
22 is nowhere near the limit for finishing looksmax and enjoying it after wise.

I think you guys don’t understand how good/better life can be at 30, 40 etc.
Especially if you build real long term things like a happy relationship, kids, being socially appraised etc.
All this can get done at 30 if ure good lokn even if you were subhuman at 25

And who cares about highschool sweetheart thats so corny lmao
i agree man if you look young you can just larp about age its more important to LOOK young than be young imo
 
dude i am 25 is it over for me
just did bimax 6 weeks ago but need a rhino now lol and then considering periorbital fat grafting thats pretty much it tho
life just started
 
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Why wait so long
i dont have money since surgeries are so expensive for teenager guy, i have 1 year school left so i cannot have income rn but i think i can manage canthopexy+fat grafts from what i can earn during summer job
 
i dont have money since surgeries are so expensive for teenager guy, i have 1 year school left so i cannot have income rn but i think i can manage canthopexy+fat grafts from what i can earn during summer job
Brow ridge, jaw angle implants, genio, rhino canthopexy+fat grafts , LL
i need these procedures, after this i will live a life as 6’3 CL
 
Its seems to be happening with everyone who does surgery. I have been talking with people from jaw surgery groups, plastic surgery groups etc. They are all in surgery infinite loop. Some are more hardstuck then others like the jaw surgery people doing 3 bimaxes because they want to fine tunes millimeters.

But the thing is you think you are smart enough go not get stuck but for some reason everyone do. And i mean everyone, no matter what. People will say cap untill they are innit themselves.

I think its a memtal illness thing for sure
What is usually their reasoning?is it 1. They see an improvement in the way they expected from the surgery just not enough 2. They improve from the surgery pushing them to improve other areas surgically as well or 3. The surgery improves what they expected but creates or reveals a new hyperfixation that they need to correct through surgery. I’m planning to get bimax and inframalars and want to avoid this. The mentality i currently have is I don’t really worry about my looks day to day because I have this plan set in place; it’s almost something i consider already dealt with. I did a ton of research determining what I need and common mistakes. Even if the results aren’t perfect but I improve I don’t see myself ever getting surgeries again. Hopefully this isn’t the same mindset that all these other people had
 
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