Infra orbital surgery or drivers license when I get older?

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Infras are more expensive, if in a rural area (without easy access to public transportation), drivers license first.
 
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Infras are more expensive, if in a rural area (without easy access to public transportation), drivers license first.
Okay, but the surgery would improve my looks a lot ?
 
how does the driving licence affect your facial aesthetics
I get like maybe 20000 sek when I turn 18 wich is like 2000 dollars. And I wonder what to spend it on. If surgery would improve so much to the point it’s more worth it
 
I get like maybe 20000 sek when I turn 18 wich is like 2000 dollars. And I wonder what to spend it on. If surgery would improve so much to the point it’s more worth it
You will never afford Infra implants with that little. You'll probably 5 times that amount for a standard implant and 8 or so times that amount for a custom implant. Just get the driver's license and revisit the idea of surgery when you have a better income
 
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You will never afford Infra implants with that little. You'll probably 5 times that amount for a standard implant and 8 or so times that amount for a custom implant. Just get the driver's license and revisit the idea of surgery when you have a better income
Okay, but no amount of gear or peptides can grow out a recessed infra?
 
nope, implants are the only way to add structure chief :forcedsmile:
can I use aqualyx on specific spots so that fat stays at my infra orbital but the aqualyx removes it from the cheek. Is it possible to get hollow cheeks if I am this recessed?
 
can I use aqualyx on specific spots so that fat stays at my infra orbital but the aqualyx removes it from the cheek. Is it possible to get hollow cheeks if I am this recessed?
i cant tell because you only gave a side but id say no. and i dont understand youre logic with the aqualyx, just eat healthy and do some movement and get lean, and if your face doesnt lean out then aqualyx wouldnt have done it either
 
i cant tell because you only gave a side but id say no. and i dont understand youre logic with the aqualyx, just eat healthy and do some movement and get lean, and if your face doesnt lean out then aqualyx wouldnt have done it either
I am not trying to get into a calorie deficit yet as I want to try and squeeze out as much facial and height growth. Might hop on something
 
I am not trying to get into a calorie deficit yet as I want to try and squeeze out as much facial and height growth. Might hop on something
how old are you. using any supps/peptides/peds arent worth it ever.
 
I am 16. My brother got to 179,5 and he’s 18, but he has lived a super shit lifestyle
im 177 at 17. been eating shit most of my life. my lil brother 173 at 12. eating worse than me. height between brothers and theyre lifestyles dont really correlate.
Why are they not worth it. I am around 178 btw
you will damage your organs severely. what exactly are you planning on using? peptides are literally made for research, its a fuckin test. roids will age tf out of you and steal your youth. hair, skin, make you infertile and have ED. its not good how any supps or anything from a needle is pushed on this forum and tt. extremely detrimental to ones health
 
im 177 at 17. been eating shit most of my life. my lil brother 173 at 12. eating worse than me. height between brothers and theyre lifestyles dont really correlate.

you will damage your organs severely. what exactly are you planning on using? peptides are literally made for research, its a fuckin test. roids will age tf out of you and steal your youth. hair, skin, make you infertile and have ED. its not good how any supps or anything from a needle is pushed on this forum and tt. extremely detrimental to ones health
People keep telling me different things, first someone told me that 250 mg test two times a week and 25 anavar for 8 months would be good and that I would recover easily with post cycle therapy, but I kind of realized he was just trying to sell me stuff and he might have lied abt the roids. Then someone said to just take 2,5 mg anavar in a cycle or that I could take HGH with ai and that would make me grow even more. Then someone said mk677, and I’ve been thinking abt that as it’s a bit weaker. I have found a supplier in the same city of me that my brothers friend told me abt. One 8 month cycle won’t hurt right? It can’t be any worse than living like this forever
 
People keep telling me different things, first someone told me that 250 mg test two times a week and 25 anavar for 8 months would be good and that I would recover easily with post cycle therapy, but I kind of realized he was just trying to sell me stuff and he might have lied abt the roids. Then someone said to just take 2,5 mg anavar in a cycle or that I could take HGH with ai and that would make me grow even more. Then someone said mk677, and I’ve been thinking abt that as it’s a bit weaker. I have found a supplier in the same city of me that my brothers friend told me abt. One 8 month cycle won’t hurt right? It can’t be any worse than living like this forever
think about it. think about it hard. imagine a syringe or a vial with some liquid and writing on the label. do you really know whats in there? ofc not. youre injecting a lab made research chemical or ped (same shit diff name) with the intent of having the little bit of liquid make you grow taller, develop better etc. but you dont wonder at all what negative side effects could be in the same liquid? you cant tell at all, you can only rely on info that is spread about these chemicals. if there was a supplement or peptide that could ACTUALLY GARUNTEE growth, bone development, etc. with the positives outweighing the negatives then it would be illegal. none of this stuff will actually benefit you. the only route to go is healthmaxxing, living a more natural lifestyle, getting sun, eating right, using less electronics, and other little things (quality of clothes, glass bottles vs plastic, wired headphones vs wireless). and after being fully healthmaxxed, lean asf, 10~ish% bf, clean gut, healthy hair, skin, eyelashes n stuff. then you evaluate for surgeries only for negative features or something clearly holding your face back. if you try and take some part of your face that is "average" and get a surgery to alter it then it will likely be a botch. im not one for copes i fucking hate copers but i am strongly against any pharmaceuticals or anything unnatural because they never fix anything. just descend/make you look or feel worse or at most a shitty tradeoff (eg. roids trade hair, skin, youth for muscles. zero appeal).
 
think about it. think about it hard. imagine a syringe or a vial with some liquid and writing on the label. do you really know whats in there? ofc not. youre injecting a lab made research chemical or ped (same shit diff name) with the intent of having the little bit of liquid make you grow taller, develop better etc. but you dont wonder at all what negative side effects could be in the same liquid? you cant tell at all, you can only rely on info that is spread about these chemicals. if there was a supplement or peptide that could ACTUALLY GARUNTEE growth, bone development, etc. with the positives outweighing the negatives then it would be illegal. none of this stuff will actually benefit you. the only route to go is healthmaxxing, living a more natural lifestyle, getting sun, eating right, using less electronics, and other little things (quality of clothes, glass bottles vs plastic, wired headphones vs wireless). and after being fully healthmaxxed, lean asf, 10~ish% bf, clean gut, healthy hair, skin, eyelashes n stuff. then you evaluate for surgeries only for negative features or something clearly holding your face back. if you try and take some part of your face that is "average" and get a surgery to alter it then it will likely be a botch. im not one for copes i fucking hate copers but i am strongly against any pharmaceuticals or anything unnatural because they never fix anything. just descend/make you look or feel worse or at most a shitty tradeoff (eg. roids trade hair, skin, youth for muscles. zero appeal).
Ive been like that before, trying to health max, I do eat good, no plastic food containers, only cotton or wool clothing, I tried to avoid as much chemicals as possible so I didn’t even use sunscreen. But that didn’t help. I think abt the side effects all the time, otherwise I would have just been on this shit. But I can’t be healthy if I don’t think healthy. Ik starting this will probably make things worse but who knows, maybe I’ll actually experience that love beetwen the person that keeps me awake all night even though she was just wanting to have a ”hot girl summer”. Maybe with this i will finally be enough even tho the person that they like won’t be the true me.
I am sorry if this is cringe or something but I am tired of having to vent to Gemini
 
Ive been like that before, trying to health max, I do eat good, no plastic food containers, only cotton or wool clothing, I tried to avoid as much chemicals as possible so I didn’t even use sunscreen. But that didn’t help. I think abt the side effects all the time, otherwise I would have just been on this shit. But I can’t be healthy if I don’t think healthy. Ik starting this will probably make things worse but who knows, maybe I’ll actually experience that love beetwen the person that keeps me awake all night even though she was just wanting to have a ”hot girl summer”. Maybe with this i will finally be enough even tho the person that they like won’t be the true me.
I am sorry if this is cringe or something but I am tired of having to vent to Gemini
what exactly is your diet like? theres many ideas of "healthy" around the internet. good on you for the other stuff. ik its tempting when you think abt the now, i used to want roids to physiquemaxx but muscles dont appeal to women. i only ever got with a girl the first time i got shredded as shit. i was still eating unhealthy just working like a dog so i lost a fuck ton. ive descended a bit from ldar all day but still about 15% bf i need to cardiomaxx again asap. but getting that shredded is so fuckin awarding. and if you use your hair to cover some parts then most ppl can look decent and possibly slay (depending on where they are) whilst being shredded. ive slayed a bit when i was like 10% and im not even good looking. maybe lmtn at best. no need to apologise i feel you. but dont resort to these ideas of using chemicals to ascend. its predatory imo to put kids on to this stuff.
 
what exactly is your diet like? theres many ideas of "healthy" around the internet. good on you for the other stuff. ik its tempting when you think abt the now, i used to want roids to physiquemaxx but muscles dont appeal to women. i only ever got with a girl the first time i got shredded as shit. i was still eating unhealthy just working like a dog so i lost a fuck ton. ive descended a bit from ldar all day but still about 15% bf i need to cardiomaxx again asap. but getting that shredded is so fuckin awarding. and if you use your hair to cover some parts then most ppl can look decent and possibly slay (depending on where they are) whilst being shredded. ive slayed a bit when i was like 10% and im not even good looking. maybe lmtn at best. no need to apologise i feel you. but dont resort to these ideas of using chemicals to ascend. its predatory imo to put kids on to this stuff.
Lot of red meat with a lot of fats that I cook bleu, a lot of fruit that are in season so for now I have been eating a lot of melon like cantaloupe, I usually buy huge 1kg slices of Parmesan as that is the one that I can find in grocery stores that I the least processed. I eat a lot of eggs, some real honey before bjj training incase I don’t have much stamina. I have been starting to eat a bit more potato and sweet potato as I was avoiding carbs a lot before but I have realized that it it’s important energy. I sometimes eat vegetables like tomatoes maybe some leafs. Beef is like the only meat I eat. I can’t think much more of what I have been eating these past weeks
 
Zero nose bridge, squished maxilla.
You can get infra implants if you want to look Asian, I suppose.
 
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Lot of red meat with a lot of fats that I cook bleu, a lot of fruit that are in season so for now I have been eating a lot of melon like cantaloupe, I usually buy huge 1kg slices of Parmesan as that is the one that I can find in grocery stores that I the least processed. I eat a lot of eggs, some real honey before bjj training incase I don’t have much stamina. I have been starting to eat a bit more potato and sweet potato as I was avoiding carbs a lot before but I have realized that it it’s important energy. I sometimes eat vegetables like tomatoes maybe some leafs. Beef is like the only meat I eat. I can’t think much more of what I have been eating these past weeks
beautiful to hear. drop leafy greens tho
 
what exactly is your diet like? theres many ideas of "healthy" around the internet. good on you for the other stuff. ik its tempting when you think abt the now, i used to want roids to physiquemaxx but muscles dont appeal to women. i only ever got with a girl the first time i got shredded as shit. i was still eating unhealthy just working like a dog so i lost a fuck ton. ive descended a bit from ldar all day but still about 15% bf i need to cardiomaxx again asap. but getting that shredded is so fuckin awarding. and if you use your hair to cover some parts then most ppl can look decent and possibly slay (depending on where they are) whilst being shredded. ive slayed a bit when i was like 10% and im not even good looking. maybe lmtn at best. no need to apologise i feel you. but dont resort to these ideas of using chemicals to ascend. its predatory imo to put kids on to this stuff.
I don’t want to become shredded I want to get taller, maybe a bit more bones, and a bigger frame as my hips are very wide due to genetics and fat storage
 
I don’t want to become shredded I want to get taller, maybe a bit more bones, and a bigger frame as my hips are very wide due to genetics and fat storage
the only way to do that quickly is surgery then. just keep up the healthy lifestyle. nothing is promised. im sure yk to train your lats and delts to make your v-taper look better and have wider perceived clavicles.
 

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