INSANE JS + MSE ascension of 35 YO female.

[SOS-Sonic]

The improvement in symmetry, maxillary volume, eye area and lips is astounding. This is even better than Ronald Ead's transformation.

Figure 2 from CT Analysis of Nasal Volume Changes after Surgically-assisted Rapid Maxillary Expansion | Semantic Scholar

Figures 2a to 2d. Female patient, 35 years of age with pronounced crossbite, open bite and Class II. Frontal view before (a) and after (b) RPE and orthognathic surgery; occlusal view of the maxillary jaw before (c) and after (d) RPE. - "CT Analysis of Nasal Volume Changes after...

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[SOS-Sonic]

 

[AscendingHero]

The improvement in symmetry, maxillary volume, eye area and lips is astounding. This is even better than Ronald Ead's transformation.

Figure 2 from CT Analysis of Nasal Volume Changes after Surgically-assisted Rapid Maxillary Expansion | Semantic Scholar

Figures 2a to 2d. Female patient, 35 years of age with pronounced crossbite, open bite and Class II. Frontal view before (a) and after (b) RPE and orthognathic surgery; occlusal view of the maxillary jaw before (c) and after (d) RPE. - "CT Analysis of Nasal Volume Changes after...

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Insane ascencion, is she wearing contacts?

maxila and mandible are still recessed af. but good change.

Youth and health indicators are everything.

 

[wollet2]

r u joking

 

[datboijj]

Has nothing on JSE thank you DR.Jewt

 

[Deleted member 7725]

Not MSE. It's SARPE.

 

[Chinlet Ascension]

Not MSE. It's SARPE.

SARME, not SARPE.

 

[currylover]

She still looks like shit, why did you post this? Both of you should fucking rope.

 

[Deleted member 7725]

SARME, not SARPE.

Never heard of it. What is it?

 

[Chinlet Ascension]

Never heard of it. What is it?

Surgically assisted rapid maxillary expansion (as opposed to ...palatal expansion). From my understanding, with SARPE, an extra cut is made across the upper jaw, so that the upper jaw can be expanded without expanding the rest of the maxilla.

 

[Deleted member 7725]

Surgically assisted rapid maxillary expansion (as opposed to ...palatal expansion). From my understanding, with SARPE, an extra cut is made across the upper jaw, so that the upper jaw can be expanded without expanding the rest of the maxilla.

I understand that, but how is the movement facilitated and where is the cut made? Is it just corticopunctures to allow the MSE to split easier in adults?

 

[Bobelbrah]

I understand that, but how is the movement facilitated and where is the cut made? Is it just corticopunctures to allow the MSE to split easier in adults?

@Chinlet Ascension I want to know this as well

 

[Bobelbrah]

The improvement in symmetry, maxillary volume, eye area and lips is astounding. This is even better than Ronald Ead's transformation.

Figure 2 from CT Analysis of Nasal Volume Changes after Surgically-assisted Rapid Maxillary Expansion | Semantic Scholar

Figures 2a to 2d. Female patient, 35 years of age with pronounced crossbite, open bite and Class II. Frontal view before (a) and after (b) RPE and orthognathic surgery; occlusal view of the maxillary jaw before (c) and after (d) RPE. - "CT Analysis of Nasal Volume Changes after...

www.semanticscholar.org

Expected to be better results than Eads, since he never had jaw surgery, iirc. But it is indeed an impressive transformation regardless. People saying she’s still ugly are really making overly harsh judgements about her de facto transformation. No one is claiming that she’s now a Stacy, but she still went from legit subhuman to quite sold normie tier, considering her age. The case showcases that investing in jaw surgery and/or MSE won’t necessarily turn a subhuman into a Chad, but that it still is a very promising way of adding big, substantial points to your PSL. Someone with a better base than the woman in the example might see even bigger improvements to their looks. Quality of life improvement such as better breathing and sleep shouldn’t shouldn’t be disregarded for the matter. It needs to be said that her new haircut made a notable difference as well, so the improvement shouldn’t be purely attributed to the facial changes.

I find the most interesting aspect to this case to be the changes to her nose. It is a completely different one compared to the earlier one! The nostrils are bigger and rounder, the nose seems slightly wider and there seems to be more fullness in the area between the nasal bone and her cheeks. The slopes from the nasal bone, down to the cheeks, seems to be spread wider and more supported by underlying bone matter. On paper, it isn’t obvious that this is desirable, but in this case it definitely turned out to be an improvement. I always felt that Eads nostrils seemed wider after his MSE expansion, so with the addition of this case, this seems to be an expected outcome in cases of large expansion with MSE. Begs the question if I would like to see mentioned changes in my self after undergoing MSE. What are your thoughts on this matter, @SOS-Sonic?

 

[Chinlet Ascension]

I understand that, but how is the movement facilitated and where is the cut made? Is it just corticopunctures to allow the MSE to split easier in adults?

According to wiki, SARPE and SARME are the same thing, so maybe I'm wrong:

Surgically assisted rapid palatal expansion - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[JimmyDreamsOfZygos]

r u joking

You can’t look at both of them and say there wasn’t an insane change you fucking retard greycel.

 

[spark]

SURGICALLY ASSISTED = NO UPPER MAXILLARY EXPANSION

CONGRATZ YOU JUST CALLED MAKE UP ASCENSION

 

[SOS-Sonic]

Expected to be better results than Eads, since he never had jaw surgery, iirc. But it is indeed an impressive transformation regardless. People saying she’s still ugly are really making overly harsh judgements about her de facto transformation. No one is claiming that she’s now a Stacy, but she still went from legit subhuman to quite sold normie tier, considering her age. The case showcases that investing in jaw surgery and/or MSE won’t necessarily turn a subhuman into a Chad, but that it still is a very promising way of adding big, substantial points to your PSL. Someone with a better base than the woman in the example might see even bigger improvements to their looks. Quality of life improvement such as better breathing and sleep shouldn’t shouldn’t be disregarded for the matter. It needs to be said that her new haircut made a notable difference as well, so the improvement shouldn’t be purely attributed to the facial changes.

I find the most interesting aspect to this case to be the changes to her nose. It is a completely different one compared to the earlier one! The nostrils are bigger and rounder, the nose seems slightly wider and there seems to be more fullness in the area between the nasal bone and her cheeks. The slopes from the nasal bone, down to the cheeks, seems to be spread wider and more supported by underlying bone matter. On paper, it isn’t obvious that this is desirable, but in this case it definitely turned out to be an improvement. I always felt that Eads nostrils seemed wider after his MSE expansion, so with the addition of this case, this seems to be an expected outcome in cases of large expansion with MSE. Begs the question if I would like to see mentioned changes in my self after undergoing MSE. What are your thoughts on this matter, @SOS-Sonic?

Ronald did not have jaw surgery, but iirc he had AGGA and bone grafting as well along side MSE.

Yeah I can totally see what you mean, her nose got a lot wider. But I don't think this is a huge issue because her maxilla got wider as well and her harmony improved. I guess if one has a nose that is on the wide side to begin with MSE can easily make their nose too wide. However, that is not really my concern because even if my nose gets a lot wider after expansion I can get a rhino to fix that. Also, MSE is turned at a rate of fractions of a millimeter per day, so I guess we have lots of time to reconsider and decide if we still want to continue with the expansion after we have reached a certain point.

 

[JimmyDreamsOfZygos]

Expected to be better results than Eads, since he never had jaw surgery, iirc. But it is indeed an impressive transformation regardless. People saying she’s still ugly are really making overly harsh judgements about her de facto transformation. No one is claiming that she’s now a Stacy, but she still went from legit subhuman to quite sold normie tier, considering her age. The case showcases that investing in jaw surgery and/or MSE won’t necessarily turn a subhuman into a Chad, but that it still is a very promising way of adding big, substantial points to your PSL. Someone with a better base than the woman in the example might see even bigger improvements to their looks. Quality of life improvement such as better breathing and sleep shouldn’t shouldn’t be disregarded for the matter. It needs to be said that her new haircut made a notable difference as well, so the improvement shouldn’t be purely attributed to the facial changes.

I find the most interesting aspect to this case to be the changes to her nose. It is a completely different one compared to the earlier one! The nostrils are bigger and rounder, the nose seems slightly wider and there seems to be more fullness in the area between the nasal bone and her cheeks. The slopes from the nasal bone, down to the cheeks, seems to be spread wider and more supported by underlying bone matter. On paper, it isn’t obvious that this is desirable, but in this case it definitely turned out to be an improvement. I always felt that Eads nostrils seemed wider after his MSE expansion, so with the addition of this case, this seems to be an expected outcome in cases of large expansion with MSE. Begs the question if I would like to see mentioned changes in my self after undergoing MSE. What are your thoughts on this matter, @SOS-Sonic?

High IQcel, glad you’re on the forum to balance out all the retards here.

 

[Bobelbrah]

High IQcel, glad you’re on the forum to balance out all the retards here.

Thx mate, but honestly, you and I just have some common sense. Say's a lot about the forum sadly jfl

 

[Bobelbrah]

Ronald did not have jaw surgery, but iirc he had AGGA and bone grafting as well along side MSE.

True, forgot about those.

Yeah I can totally see what you mean, her nose got a lot wider. But I don't think this is a huge issue because her maxilla got wider as well and her harmony improved. I guess if one has a nose that is on the wide side to begin with MSE can easily make their nose too wide. However, that is not really my concern because even if my nose gets a lot wider after expansion I can get a rhino to fix that. Also, MSE is turned at a rate of fractions of a millimeter per day, so I guess we have lots of time to reconsider and decide if we still want to continue with the expansion after we have reached a certain point.

True as well. Really rides home the point that MSE still is a procedure worth pursing(for lots of people).

 

[wollet2]

You can’t look at both of them and say there wasn’t an insane change you fucking retard greycel.

cant see a lot need to tone up my autism

 

[PURE ARYAN GENETICS]

extremely deformed, needs another centimeter

 

[PURE ARYAN GENETICS]

Expected to be better results than Eads, since he never had jaw surgery, iirc. But it is indeed an impressive transformation regardless. People saying she’s still ugly are really making overly harsh judgements about her de facto transformation. No one is claiming that she’s now a Stacy, but she still went from legit subhuman to quite sold normie tier, considering her age. The case showcases that investing in jaw surgery and/or MSE won’t necessarily turn a subhuman into a Chad, but that it still is a very promising way of adding big, substantial points to your PSL. Someone with a better base than the woman in the example might see even bigger improvements to their looks. Quality of life improvement such as better breathing and sleep shouldn’t shouldn’t be disregarded for the matter. It needs to be said that her new haircut made a notable difference as well, so the improvement shouldn’t be purely attributed to the facial changes.

I find the most interesting aspect to this case to be the changes to her nose. It is a completely different one compared to the earlier one! The nostrils are bigger and rounder, the nose seems slightly wider and there seems to be more fullness in the area between the nasal bone and her cheeks. The slopes from the nasal bone, down to the cheeks, seems to be spread wider and more supported by underlying bone matter. On paper, it isn’t obvious that this is desirable, but in this case it definitely turned out to be an improvement. I always felt that Eads nostrils seemed wider after his MSE expansion, so with the addition of this case, this seems to be an expected outcome in cases of large expansion with MSE. Begs the question if I would like to see mentioned changes in my self after undergoing MSE. What are your thoughts on this matter, @SOS-Sonic?

the maxilla is the nose. of course it gets wider if you widen it

 

[Deleted member 8758]

Downgrowth is the bane of all looks.

 

[Bobelbrah]

the maxilla is the nose. of course it gets wider if you widen it

I know it may seem obvious, but I have never seen such a drastic example of MSE widening the nose. In some cases the nose doesn't seem to change at all, for some reason.