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Didn't originally mean to post this, but I thought it may be interesting enough to share, sometimes I have an idea that just pops into my mind and I have to write it down.
What if vegetables/fruits are bad for you (well not an optimally good choice of food), but we evolve to like their taste not truly a secondary source of food(meat being the primary one) but mainly as a supplementary source of water. Reminder that some animals manage to survive in the desert by extracting drips of water out of cactus. So providing you water but with the nutrients inside not truly outweighing the downside of the unwanted toxins(we can eat most plants because their concentration of toxins is too high, the one we eat are the bearable ones) and energy cost to digest them for their limited vitamin/protein upside. Now that you have access to water at all time, it would be maladapted to eat them over meat. Like you actually burn more calories by eating celery through chewing and digestion. In a world where resources are scarce, why would it be adaptive to eat that, why wouldn’t we evolve to be disgusted by it, the high water concentration seems to me like a plausible answer. Kids instinctively don’t like vegetables very much, you have to force them to eat them and condition them to believe it is good for them by literally saying «eat your vegetables, it is good for you or you won’t have dessert», while kids are nearly never inclined to refuse eating fatty piece of meat. Basically, if you have in front of you unlimited water, meat and vegetables, you should push away the veggies. But in an ancestral world were both meat and water were scarce (you weren't always near a water source and water isn't easy to carry around) it becomes adaptive to eat veggies and fruits, but now that those resources aren't scarce for richer individuals, eating the later becomes maladapted.
This thought is related to the last iteration to this video series I saw a few days ago
Basically, it seems evident that an exclusive long-term vegan diet leads to malnourishment.
And you have to keep in mind that Inuits strived in harsh conditions for centuries almost out of an exclusive meat diet, there is no vegetation in the Arctic during winter.
Fruits/Veggies only actually offers a poor substitute food and water source. The upside is that it is versatile in offering a substitute for both of them and since it is relatively easy to gather relative to meat but also sometimes water due to long travel distance, it used to be adaptive to like their taste to a certain extent.
What if vegetables/fruits are bad for you (well not an optimally good choice of food), but we evolve to like their taste not truly a secondary source of food(meat being the primary one) but mainly as a supplementary source of water. Reminder that some animals manage to survive in the desert by extracting drips of water out of cactus. So providing you water but with the nutrients inside not truly outweighing the downside of the unwanted toxins(we can eat most plants because their concentration of toxins is too high, the one we eat are the bearable ones) and energy cost to digest them for their limited vitamin/protein upside. Now that you have access to water at all time, it would be maladapted to eat them over meat. Like you actually burn more calories by eating celery through chewing and digestion. In a world where resources are scarce, why would it be adaptive to eat that, why wouldn’t we evolve to be disgusted by it, the high water concentration seems to me like a plausible answer. Kids instinctively don’t like vegetables very much, you have to force them to eat them and condition them to believe it is good for them by literally saying «eat your vegetables, it is good for you or you won’t have dessert», while kids are nearly never inclined to refuse eating fatty piece of meat. Basically, if you have in front of you unlimited water, meat and vegetables, you should push away the veggies. But in an ancestral world were both meat and water were scarce (you weren't always near a water source and water isn't easy to carry around) it becomes adaptive to eat veggies and fruits, but now that those resources aren't scarce for richer individuals, eating the later becomes maladapted.
This thought is related to the last iteration to this video series I saw a few days ago
Basically, it seems evident that an exclusive long-term vegan diet leads to malnourishment.
And you have to keep in mind that Inuits strived in harsh conditions for centuries almost out of an exclusive meat diet, there is no vegetation in the Arctic during winter.
Fruits/Veggies only actually offers a poor substitute food and water source. The upside is that it is versatile in offering a substitute for both of them and since it is relatively easy to gather relative to meat but also sometimes water due to long travel distance, it used to be adaptive to like their taste to a certain extent.
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